Who the f*ck is Chris Barclay?, or, Game No. 17 Open Thread: Saints @ Bears
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 12:00 AM CST
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Some of you may be asking yourselves who the Saints' new running backs are. They recently inked two runners, Chris Barclay (pictured) and Artose Pinner, second-year and fifth-year players, respectively.
Barclay joins us from Wake Forest, where he excelledt from 2002-05. He stands 5-foot-10, weighing 180 pounds. Scout.com had this to say about Barclay's college career:
Standout running back at Wake Forest, holding school records for rushing, scoring, and all-purpose yards... Was the fifth-leading rusher in ACC history when he ended his college career in 2005... Named ACC Player of the Year in 2005... First-team All-ACC in 2004 and 2005.
Pinner, a Kentucky native, was a fourth-round pick by Detroit in 2003. He also stands 5-foot-10 but is stockier than Barclay at 230. Pinner's career reminds me a bit of Stecker's -- he's always been good enough to find work as a serial backup running back and special teamer, with occasional bouts of extreme scrappiness.
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| This asshole first showed up in the Chicago Tribune. |
The real story here is that Pierre Thomas will get a chance to carry the ball this week. With Stecker and Bush have sat during practice, Thomas has presumably played with the first teamers. Thomas has a chance to audition for playing time in 2008 against Chicago. The Bears' rush defense ranks toward the bottom of the league in both yardage per game (124) and touchdowns (17). Thomas has an opportunity to make a statement, though not Football Outsiders' All-Rookie Team. No Saints made that (big surprise).
In other news, Bears fans were poor hosts to Saints fans last season. I dunno, this story just seems a bit invented. In every group of people there will be assholes. Having known plenty of asshole sports fans -- and been one on occasion -- I know the majority of Bears fans were polite and cordial, and were probably offended by their behavior, also. Gather any large group of people and somebody's bound to be an idiot.
But, yeah, f*ck this guy. Let's hope the Saints finish off what the O' Leary's cow started.
And, of course, there is the playoff implication of this game. We all know the drill by now -- if the Saints beat the Bears in the Noon Central game and the Vikings (at Denver) and the Redskins lose at home to Dallas, the Saints win the NFC's 6th seed. Anything else, it's over.
The Saints are wounded, playing on the road in a cold-as-f*ck Soldier Field (21 degrees), though no precipitation. They are a wounded team in need of a miracle. This'll probably double as the gameday open thread, because I'm not sure how else to say it. For those of you not intersted in the game, I give you Chocolate Rain. Hey, it's been a long season; I'm running out of stuff.
SB Nation has a Chicago Bears blog, Windy City Gridiron. It's a good site, definitely worth a read.
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The one game I'd be happy to see Mare
He could kick it way out of the endzone every time to keep it away from Hester.
I honestly don't know why I keep posting about kickers.
Win Dammit
I thought about a bizzaro soothsayer where Jason "I Suck" David would be the mvp, but I couldn't do it.
Sunil, the way to get at Bears' fans is to say the truth: New York style pizza is better than Chicago deep dish. Ditka did a great job coaching the Saints, NOT. Suck it Da Bears.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 11:56 AM CST reply actions
Well
This looks like one of those games where Brees turns into Rex Grossman.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 12:09 PM CST reply actions
Thank God Kyle Orton sucks donkey balls
Our secondary has a chance.
BTW great run D so far.
Jason David
Finding new ways to hurt the team.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 12:26 PM CST reply actions
Terrible Coverage
The slip doesn't matter. The safety should have been over, but he was late.
The defense needs an overhaul: new defensive coordinator, new scheme, new players, new everything.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 12:31 PM CST reply actions
Agreed
New everything indeed. We are horrendous. Not like we were all that much better even with McKenzie healthy.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 30, 2007 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
Scheme
I know that players have to play but they also have to be in the right position. This scheme doesn't allow that, especially when Jason David is in man coverage. Sometimes the scheme has to change for the players, although Jason David should be selling insurance or something.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Weatherford could be our MVP today
Why not let him run it?
Kick to Hester
I want to see some excitement. Just kidding.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Bears D is just making good plays
Tough to say we aren't executing or something.
Play calling
Use the Bears aggression against them. Call more screens, draws, and play actions.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
Thing is
We have to prove that they need to respect the run somewhat before any play action will work against this defense. And they already blew up one screen that Brees got flagged for grounding. Or maybe that was just a flat.
I'm still miffed we ran two single-back plays on the goal line against the Eagles last week, sending Karney up to the line. Has Karney been in much thus far today? I haven't paid attention.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 30, 2007 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
Karney was in there when Brees got flagged for intentional grounding. Karney went left leaving the blitzer free to Brees.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
See?
There's the damn I formation, and it gets the yard we need.
by GeauxTigers on Dec 30, 2007 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
No chance
That play had no chance in hell of working.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 12:45 PM CST reply actions
Fuck-a-duck
Just woke up and saw the score.
Hangover or this, which is the lesser of two evils.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 12:55 PM CST reply actions
I'll give it my best, coach
Don't remember much after the shots of Jager around 4, though.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
Come on now
Starting a little early for New Years parties?
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
New Years
It's really better as a festival, rather than a single night.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Oh yeah
At some point, I promised myself I'd never again chase a hangover with a beer. It was Lundi Gras, 2004; I broke it the next day.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
The good news
- Colston now holds the NFL record for most receptions in his first two seasons. He's now at 163, Larry Fitzgerald and Reggie Bush are tied at 161.
- Pierre Thomas looks pretty solid.
- Our Run D isn't entirely horrible.
The Bears
Are attacking the right side of the O line. Run to the left and bootleg to the left.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 12:58 PM CST reply actions
Pierre Thomas
Playing his ass off to earn more PT for next year.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 1:00 PM CST reply actions
Those Toyotathon commercials
I love it that they have to add the disclaimer "DO NOT ATTEMPT" on the ad when it shows the family pushing a boulder off a cliff onto their SUV. Must be Raiders fans watching the game or something.
Man that fade to Marques is money
Brees to Colston for that play is as good as any in the NFL.
Linebackers
Take themselves out of too many plays.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 1:09 PM CST reply actions
Good drive
Gotta love those 14-play scoring drives.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 1:10 PM CST reply actions
Wow Will Smith is an idiot
Composure, as you said southernsaint.
You mean on the Smith call?
I thought that was appropriate. Any other player besides the QB you know that doesn't get called. But you CAN'T take cheap shots on a QB who's down and defenseless.
Yeah
I didn't think it needed to be flagged. Oh well, protect the pansy QBs. LOL
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
"Aww chicka chicka yeeeah"
"It's in! Oh my god it's in!"
I enjoy the resilience of Drew Brees and our passing game. In a year with all these injuries and setbacks and horrible defense and whatnot, the fact that we're still competitive does make me truly happy for our future, whether or not we crap the bed today. That is all.
Has Thomas earned his roster spot for 2008
I forgot to mention in the post that he is from Chicago.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 1:25 PM CST reply actions
Yep
He should be number 3 on the depth chart behind Deuce and Bush.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Great Defense
Can the losers in the secondary suck more?
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 1:29 PM CST reply actions
Would be difficult
I mean god dammit, Kyle Orton is supposed to suck donkey balls. I have proof!
Aha!
That is what you were watching when you posted a while ago.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
Dude
Colston is going to get killed with the passes over the middle.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 1:32 PM CST reply actions
Payton
Doing his Les Miles impersonation of going for it on 4th down.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 1:34 PM CST reply actions
If I'm the Bears
I roll Tecmo Bowl/SWAC ball style and just air it out to Hester deep three times in a row here.
Oh snap!
Sweeeeeet! Our ball our ball our ball!
Second half
If it's the last half of the season, make it the best.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 1:36 PM CST reply actions
Great play
I was scared because Jason David was on Hester.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 1:36 PM CST reply actions
No it won't cost the Bears a timeout, Dick
Sub 2 minute warning, idiot.
Damn
Colston getting killed over the middle
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 1:39 PM CST reply actions
No kidding on the Colston over the middle
He is gonna need six months in a hot tubb after today.
Dear God
I am speechless. Come on automatica.
That's a hell of a way to end a half
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, why didn't we have Gramatica in September?
I salute you, you goofy bastard!
Man, there is no one at this game
Lookit those empty stands.
Do we have any sp teams TDs this year?
IIRC the two McKenzie return TDs are our only two non-offense TDs?
Jason David
Had one against the Colts.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/...
Shows Pierre Thomas and Roman Harper as well. Roman Harper's was the tipped interception return, right? I don't remember Pierre's return TD.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
Oh right
Harper's was against the Falcons, and Thomas' was the blocked punt recovered in the endzone at the beginning of the Seahawks game.
But no kickoffs or punt return TDs for us this year. Beerman is missed.
Nope
Not yet, and probably not at all.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
You've got to be kidding me
How in the sam hell did we punt to Devin Hester.
Stupid
Better to punt into the stands for no net than punt to him.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
Too late
He should have done the screens with Reggie and Stecker when they were healthy.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Draft
Where will we draft? In the 14-19 range?
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 2:37 PM CST reply actions
There are so many teams in our area
That I think it's way more than a 5-pick range, just looking at the standings. Lots of 6-9s or 7-8s sitting around. We have one of the easiest schedules in the league so we'd have the higher pick versus most anyone who'd finish with our record. Looks like there are only 8 who on a first glance at the standings would be certainly ahead of us regardless of today's outcome.
Good
I was thinking we would finish 8-8, stupid on my part.
Good we get a better draft pick.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
My guess is 18. That's just a guess.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
From WCG
I'd assume our situation is similar.
Wow
So probably better than 18. Good, hopefully they won't deploy the next pick like they did Robert Meachem.
You know, at the start of the season, I was afraid of all the Meacham/Meachem errors I would make.
As it turned out, I didn't make any. And for the worst of reasons.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Projecting
Based on this: http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraft...
This is from whence my range came.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
14, not bad
I'd take a corner or safety there, possibly a linebacker.
Right tackle if there's a really good one there.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
Actually 12 at worst
We'll hop Chicago and Carolina today.
It's true
Best case: Arizona loses to STL.
Detroit has it in conference record (4-8) with no head-to-head result.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Conf record is not the tiebreak for draft
It's only strength of schedule. After that I believe it's head to head then I think a coin flip.
Oh, and we want AZ to WIN, not lose..
Move up
If most of the teams above us win, we move up into single digits.
It's got to be a defensive player, either CB or LB.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
OH MY GOD
THE SUN WILL NOT RISE TOMMORROW!
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 2:41 PM CST reply actions
C'mon, go for the 97 yarder to Devery
Why the hell not??
Protection
Pass protection can't hold that long. Oh wait they can hold in the endzone for a safety.
by southernsaint on Dec 30, 2007 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Devin Hester
I was half bullshitting when I said he was the best player in the 2006 draft, but he's certainly shown to be one of them.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 3:07 PM CST reply actions
Pierre Thomas made a statement
Nice to finally get something from the 2007 draft.
by Sunil @ Canal Street Chronicles on Dec 30, 2007 3:15 PM CST reply actions
Technically
He was part of the undrafted rookie class. Heh. Still a fat zero from the '07 draft class itself.
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