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Panthers 33 @ Saints 31: The View from Section 108

I'm not upset. Really. I'm not. I wanted them to lose. Better draft position. And why waste a good performance on a meaningless game. I can't even imagine how pissed I would be if the Saints lost this game the way they did and it actually meant something. We have to give the Saints credit because they did a great job getting back into the game. They are definitely getting better at the 4th quarter comeback thing. They just need to tweak it a bit more. The only disappointing part of this game was Drew coming up short of the record even when it was practically handed to him. But the rest of it and this season is all just water under the bridge.

Let's do this bullet style. I should have some pictures up later tonight hopefully.

  • I went to the game with a friend of mine from NY (you know him as NYSaint) and his girlfriend. We all took the streetcar downtown. Chef Who Dat and his crazy cohorts were standing at Lee Circle, cheering and shouting at passersby and streetcar passengers.
  • Deuce was the last starter announced.
  • Theresa Anderson sang the National Anthem.
  • Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal was in for the coin toss as an honorary team captain. 
  • There seemed to be more Pierre Thomas jerseys than I have ever seen before.
  • The tackling was weak! How many guys does it take to bring down Jonathan Stewart anyway?
  • If this was early in the season I would probably be very angry with Skyler Green but I didn't care about this game and I am not sure he will be on this team next season. He looked pretty good on his first return but you just can't give the ball up like that. Everyone got a laugh on the ensuing kickoff when Mike Bell motioned at Skyler to stay and kneel in the end zone.
  • The Dome was pretty quiet and tame most of the game. Only until the very end when the Saints made it a game did the crowd finally get into it.
  • It also took the defense three and a half quarters to wake up and not look like pure crap. No wonder the crowd never got into it. The secondary looked bad and the line got no pressure most of the game.
  • I will give props to Jason David who made that nice hit on 3rd down to jar the ball loose and force the Panthers to punt.
  • Glad to see Meachem getting some playing time and making the most of it. We all said it last year and I will say it again now...next year will be the year he breaks out.
  • The crowd was upset about quite a few pass interference calls. Or lack thereof. A couple of them looked to be just good defensive plays.
  • The text message poll given during the game revealed that 79% attending fans prefer the Saints home black jerseys over the away white. Didn't they used to wear white at home? When did that change?
  • It looked like they brought in Zach Strief quite a bit to help on either side of the line. The Saints line gave up two sacks but that was enough to break the single season franchise record by two. Congrats to those guys this season.
  • Vilma had yet another great day and finds himself at the top of the tackles list. He may not get signed before free agency but how could the Saints not sign him the second he hits the market?
  • Colston had a great day and he could have had another touchdown had he caught that ball in the endzone that hit him right in the hands.
  • Also, I could have sworn that the bottom of Drews shoes were gold plated or something very shiny. Can anyone confirm this?
  • Aren't you glad Lance Moore is on our team? I am.
  • Atlanta beat St. Louis today but because the Saints couldn't take care of business Carolina has officially won the division, thus ending the long and incredible streak of teams going from worst to first in the NFC South. This doesn't bode well for the Saints next year. 
  • As most of the team ran off the field after the game, many fans stayed and chanted "Deeeeeeeuuuuuuuuccce" as he ran off. Have we seen the last of him?
  • And then, of course, there is Drew. Breaking the record was the only thing I cared about seeing today and it just wasn't meant to be. We could probably go back and find a couple of dropped passes that would have added up to at least the 16 yards he needed to break Dan Marino's record. I am thinking of an easy one specifically by Deuce early in the game. And how serendipitous was that last play the Saints got to run with one second left? Couldn't anyone have caught that final pass? There's always next year...

  

Here is the roll call for today's open thread. Thanks for those of you who stopped by the hang out.

Total Users: 10
Total Posts: 175
Total Threads: 1

Name# of Posts
Steve the fan 50
SaintBevo 38
pukenbowl 33
MtnExile 24
Dave the Falconer 15
Jaxon 8
Nez 3
SSreporters 2
Juncti 1
hakimdropstheball 1

 

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Who was the Saints player of the game?
Drew Brees
40 votes
Deuce McAllister
2 votes
Marques Colston
0 votes
Lance Moore
3 votes
Jonathan Vilma
4 votes

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No, they never wore white at home...

They’ve always wore black at home, they just used to wear gold pants, which I wish they would go back too…

All I want for Christmas are two new Safeties...

by Hollywoo! on Dec 28, 2008 8:26 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they wore white at home

for the Superdome reopener against Atlanta 2 seasons ago

by MobileSaint on Dec 30, 2008 3:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the white at home was back when we played outside, so that the other team had to wear their dark jerseys outside in Louisiana heat.

*bump* U *set* OF *spike* OOOOOOOOOO!

by AllSaintsDay on Dec 28, 2008 9:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Short version-View from Section 146

Dave, I agree with your bullet points except one:

The crowd was upset about quite a few pass interference calls. Or lack thereof. A couple of them looked to be just good defensive plays.

I’ve always thought the refs did a good job, almost always right. Until 2008. Worst year in my memory for officiating and more of it today. On that long pass deep down the right side (away from our end of the field), I could clearly see the DB running up against Meachem, which prevented him from going for a catchable ball. No flag. (I won’t be able to see the video of this so those of you who can, correct me if I’m wrong) Crowd went nuts. I was so pissed I reenacted it against the guy sitting next to me (who I hadn’t even spoken to yet), leaned on him, pushing him into the seat to HIS right, yelling “So this ain’t pass interference?” Fortunately he laughed.

I saw Drew’s cleats too, they are a solid gold shiny sole underneath, not like Reggie’s at all.

It got so bad early in the second half (right before Skyler’s fumble) that my wife said “Sorry. I’m going to go look for t-shirts” and got up and left. She NEVER does that. She did come back before the 4th quarter drama.

I think the D did an OK Saints style of defense today, held them to those field goals in the first half. But they did ultimately fail and cost the team the game. That was a very respectable and impressive comeback, offensively. Panthers had to be sweating it at least a little.

Even the last play, the incomplete pass in the turf, was Saints-like. There for the taking, but no.

Shopkeeper I was talking to after the game: “That Saints defense really SUCKS!”

by stujo4 on Dec 28, 2008 9:33 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gibbs is the anti-King Midas

Everything he touches turns to shit (excuse my french). You’d think we could get 1 frickin pass break up on a long pass with less than 3 minutes to play the whole year. If we hold them, Brees gets the ball back and no question breaks the record. Sort of ironic though that Brees was able to be in position to break the record because we can’t stop anybody, but then needs the D to stop someone to set the record…my head hurts.

On a related note, I now officially hate the panthers.

by SaintBevo on Dec 28, 2008 10:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

draft question

Can anyone clarify for me the draft pick situation? I know we lost the 2nd rounder with the Shockey pick, but am unsure about anything else with the Vilma deal being conditional based on playing time, performance, contract extension or lack thereof, etc. Help me out if you know please

by DeuceisLoose926 on Dec 28, 2008 11:01 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looked it up

Shockey trade gives up the 2nd and 5th rounder.

Vilma trade is a conditional 4th rounder: IF Vilma plays 85% of defensive snaps AND is resigned before the second day of FA then it becomes a 2nd rounder.

The kicker is that if it happens, Shockey trade 2nd rounder becomes a 2010 first rounder. No way the Saints let that happen.

by Steve the fan on Dec 28, 2008 11:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brees could have gotten it :(

I was watching the game like I always do and remember thinking; it sure would be nice if Brees had a chance. 400 plus yards against Carolina, I thought it couldn’t happen because our D is so bad especially on third down therefore figured Brees and the offense wouldn’t have the opportunities to be on the field enough to throw for that much. Then the game continued and the Saints fell behind by 20 and I was convinced they wouldn’t pull it out. I wasn’t too disappointed because I thought it would have been a long shot for them to win anyway. Carolina was playing to keep their season going, the Saints, for only a winning record. Then the forth quarter. The defense made a few stops and the offense caught fire. Brees needed 169 yards at the start of the forth. A touchdown pass to Meachem and the Saints close the gap. Then can you believe it, the D began to play like they wanted to win the game and more importantly, give Brees the chance to get his record. They get the ball back and Brees throws a touchdown via Moore. It was at this point, I noticed Brees only needed 61 more yards and there was over 5 minutes left in the game. I thought hell yea, he’s got a shot and then realized the Saints have a shot at pulling a win out. Then the D does it again, can you believe it, get the ball back to the offense and Brees throws another touchdown to Moore. Only 16 damn more yards, that’s all he needed to get and there was over 3 minutes left at that point. I thought he’s going to get it, yes he is going to get it and the Saints are winning the game 31-30. This Sunday was at that point the best day and I was hugging my girlfriend then thought about something and got instantly sad. Carolina can work the clock, move down the field and get into field goal range and leave the saints with no opportunity to get the ball back thus no win, no record. I went from being so happy to so sad in only a few seconds. I then thought that with the Saints defensive play as of the last quarter, they may stop them. But I then began to think with my head and not with my heart. I figured the best shot the Saints had to not only win the game but to also give Brees plenty of time to work a 2 minute drive, get 16 tiny little yards, and possibly score a touchdown to win it was to let Carolina score a quick touchdown. I know it sounds terrible and I am sure no coach could even think that way, but face it, Carolina had a killer run game, only down by one point, has a good kicker, and our D just usually seems to fall apart on third down especially protecting a lead in the fourth so Carolina could easily milk the clock and get the win with a field goal ending the game. I figured doing this would have put the score at 37-31 Carolina and left at least 2 minutes on the clock with Carolina kicking off to us. Carolina would never try for an on side with less than two minutes in the game and having the lead, and especially with knowing how good Brees and our offense was. They couldn’t risk giving good field position to the Saints so they would have kicked it deep. Brees would have thrown at least one or two completions in that drive passing the 16 yards and getting the record and with the way he can work magic, probably rolled down the field and gotten a touchdown using all if not most of the time left putting the score at 38-31 Saints. Win and record ! would have been great but at least Brees would have gotten his record for sure. So what happen, exactly what I thought, Carolina milked the clock by not only running but throwing a pass between two defenders to a well covered receiver (where have we seen that before). Defense as I feared couldn’t get it done and left the Saints down by one with only one damn second left on the clock. I told my girlfriend I couldn’t believe it, to come this close and the man doesn’t get another shot. Then it was like the Saints guardian angle intervened and the kick off goes out of bounds leaving one second. I looked and my girlfriend and said yes, he has the chance to throw one more pass. 1 Damn second, I’m thinking screw the win, a hail marry will more often than not turn into an interception of an incomplete. Throw a short pass and get the record. Then I saw how Carolina lined up defensively. Corners and safety near the end zone. linebackers lined up deep. There was a gap between the D line and the rest of the defenders of at least 20 or more yards. I remember telling my girlfriend that he just has to throw a short 15 hell even a 10 yard pass to a receiver over the middle who will run forwards until he is tackled by a defender but will definitely get 16 damn yards. Then I see Brees throw a deep pass of like 25 or 30 yards to a receiver near coverage. Damn my heart sunk, they lost and Brees didn’t get it. Why damn it why. It seems like this team and all us fans got to be destined to enjoy a Super Bowl winning season soon because we have had too much disappointment and heartbreak. Enough is Enough, please God have mercy!

by narco301 on Dec 29, 2008 10:31 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks steve for the draft update

by DeuceisLoose926 on Dec 29, 2008 11:25 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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