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Draft Day Open Thread

Alright guys, I am starting an open thread for you guys if you are gonna be watching the draft at home and sitting in front of your computer. This is how it works: you guys write whatever you want in the comment section of this post as the draft progresses. Than keep checking the last comment in the section by hitting your refresh button often. If a few of you guys all do it, than it will become a live real-time conversation with each other so you can talk about the draft with fellow Saints fans as it's happening. It's basically like using this post as an instant messaging service. Get it?! I urge you to try it out. It's one of the best features of SB Nation and sports blogging in general. This is what we will do for all Saints games as well, so get used to it. Also, I believe the new CSC 2.0 will have an auto-refresh. I will try and check in to see how it's going while I am at Jazzfest.

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Draft Day priorities
  1. Pair up the 10th overall pick with a sixth or seventh round pick and swap with the Ravens or Patriots to get Ellis in the first round. If that's not possible, I think Rivers gets the call over any CBs because of the depth of the LB talent this year against the depth of the CB talent. If they stay at 10 and Rivers and Ellis are gone, take your pick with DRC or McKelvin, but I prefer DRC.
  1. Don't deal the second round pick to the Giants until the pick comes. Odds are there will be a good LB or CB that falls somehow and Saints fans will be left wishing they still had the pick. Shockey is good, but the 40th overall pick is too much to trade for him. I'd say trading the second rounder for him is a terrible idea unless there's absolutely nothing left on the defensive draft board.
  1. I love Reggie and Deuce, but I wouldn't mind seeing the Saints pick up a power running back in the 3rd to shore up the backfield. Last year was proof of what injuries can do, and in an offense that almost requires two different styles of back, I'd love to see a guy like UCF's Kevin Smith come in. This guy is a horse and proves in college that he can handle as many carries as necessary.
  1. Stay flexible. Sean Payton and mickey Loomis are known to be active on draft day, and usually make good moves. The more options the Saints have open, the more possibilities for those two guys to hit a grand slam for the team.

by BleedingGold on Apr 26, 2008 12:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt Ryan to Atl and Al Davis

Good pick for the Falcons, not so good for the Saints and the rest of the division.  I like the kid and he may be starting before mid-season.  

I predict that when the Raiders pick at 4, EVERYONE is going to go WTF?  Al Davis is crazy.

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good job AL

Nevermind.  I'm just still not over that Janikowski pick.

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait a minute...

Al, what about Michael Bush?  I like McFadden, but you let Dorsey go to the CHIEFS?  WTF???   Idiot old man.

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rotoworld on McFadden (Reggie content)

"Just about every Oakland beat writer has been pushing for the Raiders to go defense with their first-round pick, but Al Davis doesn't listen to that. Coach Lane Kiffin also wants defense. We know Davis doesn't listen to him.  McFadden has drawn comparisons to Reggie Bush as a back that needs to be put in space. But he was a physical runner at Arkansas, often lowering his shoulder to deliver blows. A north-south back, McFadden is strong in short yardage and a willing pass blocker. Oakland's zone blocking scheme will help him make big gains quick. It's not an ideal spot for his fantasy value, because he'll probably split carries with Justin Fargas as a rookie. Michael Bush is looking more and more like the next Eric Shelton."

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sedrick Ellis-nice pick

Saints tried to make Dorsey happen, but this is almost as good.  Payton and Loomis are doing their jobs.  Thank God we're not Raiders fans.

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe trading up again?

I love the Ellis trade, but with all of the CBs left and a run on Offensive linemen sure to come, do you think it would be a good idea to throw around that early second rounder and maybe some later ones to try to  move into the late first and get one of the 4 stud CBs left or maybe even Cason? I'd like to see it.

by BleedingGold on Apr 26, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ellis

Great pick! if you were watching any of the other draft blogs, the saints pursued Dorsey immensely. The Saints offered the Chiefs (who were at pick 5) this years second round pick and their first round pick next year, which was turned down because the chiefs realized how great of a player dorsey is. But at the end of the day, the saints get ellis, who is arguably better than Dorsey and isn't as injury prone. Plus the Saints got him at pick 7, which will mean a smaller financial impact than pick five (looking at about $18 million guranteed). In addition, the Saints gave up only a 3rd round pick and got a 5th in return, so really it wasn't anything major to move up. Beyond that, if the Saints would have stayed at pick 10, there would have been no one of value for the Saints there (and DRC would have been a reach). So as I said, great pick for the Saints, hopefully they can do as well with their second as they did with their first.    

by nola12 on Apr 26, 2008 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dorsey is a huge loss

Dorsey is so much more of a leader compared to Ellis.  I will believe Ellis when I see it...until then he's like Sullivan.  Dorsey is a lock for KC.

by xen on Apr 26, 2008 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LSU vs Kansas

You guys have a overly romantic vision of Dorsey because he played up the road at LSU.  He's great, but  it doesn't spoil the draft.  I was just going to write that I hope the Saints take Aqib Talib CB-Kansas because I live in Wichita and I got to see him play this year.  But the Bucs just took him, damn.

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More on Dorsey from Rotoworld

"Best-case scenario for Kansas City to get perhaps the most talented player in the draft. They actually passed up an offer of two first-round picks and a second from New Orleans to nab him. Dorsey will start on day one and upgrade a faceless defensive line."

2 firsts and 1 second?  In what years???

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CB's in Kansas, again

I like Cason over Flowers.  Flowers is only 5' 9", Cason is 6'.  For a sleeper pick in the late rounds, here's this from the Dallas Morning News:  "Cary Williams- CB, Washburn (KS)   There is so much football talent in South Florida that the players wind up in some unusual places.  Williams played in Topeka by way of New York City, transferring from Fordham to Washburn.  He intercepted 7 passes last season and an 8th in the Cactus Bowl, the Div. II All-Star game.  He has size (6-1, 187) speed (4.43 - 40) and also averaged 28.6 yds on 19 kickoff returns in 2007 with 2 TD's."

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2008 4:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2nd pick

I like Cason over Flowers also, but it's still a little bit of a stretch for one of them to be left on the board. Dan Connor from Penn State is another option for the team. EIther of those three would make the first day a glaring success in my opinion. It's probably too early to tell yet, though, we'll have to look later.

by BleedingGold on Apr 26, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You are right

Chargers got Cason, Chiefs got Flowers.  (Chiefs are having a helluva draft)  What about Tracy Porter CB-Indiana?  or DeJuan Tribble CB-Boston College (bonus: he might be Catholic)

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shockey

Did the Shockey trade happen yet?  I think it's coming soon.

The only good thing about Ellis is that the Saints didn't lose a pick...they just traded down.  But I think all the USC players are overrated.  Pete Carroll overhypes that University every year; I think he runs a media office more than a football program. Can we please get more players from a group that couldn't stop the vaunted Stanford Cardinal?  

by xen on Apr 26, 2008 5:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Alley

Alley Broussard is draftable.  Just thought it would be a fun FYI!

Would love to see the Saints pickup Chevis Jackson or Early Doucet.

by xen on Apr 26, 2008 5:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

40th- Conner

I think right now Dan Conner is the only player left worth taking at 40. The best players left right now are offensive players and if Conner gets taken, then the Saints have to be looking to trade down or maybe later in the round.

by BleedingGold on Apr 26, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Saints up now

Gotta be Dan Conner. Or trade down. But Dan Conner is the best player left for us.

by BleedingGold on Apr 26, 2008 6:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kiper says take Godfrey with the 40th pick

Charles Godfrey CB-Iowa - 5' 11.5" 207#  193 career tackles

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2008 6:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tracy Porter CB-Indiana

He went to high school at Port Allen, LA.  He can cover, but can he help with the run game?  5-11 188 pounds.  I'm glad we have Randall Gay.

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2008 6:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rotoworld on Porter

"Porter has outstanding speed (in the 4.35 range) and picked off 16 passes during his college career. He projects as a playmaking nickel back as a rookie. Jason Craft and possibly Jason David's roster spots are more tenuous."

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yawn

jeez. I fell asleep.  This turned into a real yawner...literally.

by xen on Apr 26, 2008 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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