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Houston Texans @ New Orleans Saints: The View from Section 108

The Saints first home game of 2008, albeit a pre-season game, is in the books. In what will become a tradition here on CSC for all Saints home games, I present to you my personal notes from being at the game and observing all that surrounded me. I have chosen not to look at other websites, read any newspapers or watch any TV yet. What follows is my unfiltered, unbiased opinion of the game. I plan on watching the game a couple of times on Tivo and getting more in depth later. Please note, some of these observations may be completely wrong upon further review, so keep that in mind. It is hard to see everything when watching from my seats. Here are all the notes I wrote (read: typed) into my iTouch during the game.

  • The boys were wearing the usual home whites with their gold pants. Pretty standard. I am always a fan of something different, like all black, but whatever.
  • The Dome seemed pretty crowded, though not completely a sell out. The atmosphere is always more relaxed for these games and nobody seems to take it as serious as the regular season. And they shouldn't
  • The first big play of the night came on a Brees pass to Patten. I know some of you think Meachem is deserving of that second spot, but Patten is a pro. The guy played for the Patriots and he's been around the league for years. He knows what he's doing, and I think it shows. I really don't think anyone is knocking him out of that second spot. I really like him. He's kind of like Colston; doesn't have a big mouth and gets it done on the field. Honestly, he may be one of the more overrated players on this team. I know he's not the biggest guy out there, but he's all professional, all the time and he's got some hands.
  • One of the other big plays on the day was the Texans fumbled punt return. Usama Young was all over the returner (don't know who it was without looking it up) but I don't think he actually touched anyone. Plays like that will be important during the regular season.
  • Dare I talk about Jason David? I guess we have to. Guys, this was really the most disappointing part of the evening. I can't tell you how helpless and frustrated I (and pretty much everyone in the Dome) felt watching the Texans do pretty much exactly what we watched them do last season.  I believe it was the second Texans drive in which they picked on Jason David three times for big plays in one series, the last time being for a touchdown. Really, this was the definition of deja vu. He was getting booed loudly. I honestly don't really agree with booing your own team, but it is almost getting to the point where it is all the fans can do to let Payton and the rest of the staff know that this just isn't working. We need help here and Jason David isn't the answer. He is clearly the weak link, as I explained to Erin (thats my fiance) who was feeling sympathetic for David. The guy who has the tickets next to me was very irate. I plan to check out the Houston's passing stats, because I really don't think they ever went to Randall Gay's side (their right side). I don't think we could even evaluate him because every play was run at Jason David. Seriously.
  • Deuce is the other big story of the night I suppose. It was weird. He ran the first play from scrimmage, gaining just a few yards, then immediately ran off the field. At first I thought maybe that was going to be it for Deuce. One play then done. Maybe injury? But he wound up coming back in the second quarter. Certainly there was nothing spectacular about his play today, but it must be good that he was out there and it certainly wasn't bad. Just mediocre. In all honesty, I don't think he was getting too much help from the line.
  • Mehlhaff's kickoff's looked fine. Actually, he seems to get a lot of height and hang time on his kickoffs.I don't think any went into the end zone but all of them seemed to be within the five yard line. Gramatica nailed his field goals. I really don' feel like we have learned anything from this match up.
  • Our starting defensive line, from where I was sitting, didn't seem to be as aggressive as last week. Only one play comes to mind where we actually pressured their quarterback to throw it away.
  • Mark Campbell had a chance for a touchdown but dropped the ball that was passed his way. Looked like he took an unexpected hard hit and couldn't hold onto the ball. Probably really should have held onto it.
  • Our running game looked like crap. Still nothing to write home about there. I still think they need to start Pierre and let him get into a rhythm.
  • Jonathan Vilma was out there, but I really can't remember him doing anything out of the ordinary or special.
  • Winn Dixie always plays an ad during the game where they sing their theme song I am assuming is titled, "Getting Better All The Time." It, in fact, is NOT getting better all the time.
  • One of the positives tonight was Reggie. Did you guys see that touchdown? It was sick! Yet another Reggie Bush highlight. He hurdled right over a diving tackler and actually landed on his feet like a cat.. He could seriously be on the U.S. Track and Field team for hurdles. They replayed it about 5 times after it happened and it was very reminiscent of his USC and 2006 highlights. It's always scary when he makes those plays because one day he is going to blow out a knee. I believe it was Gayle Sayers who told Reggie a similar thing. Reggie definitely looked hungry and improved, but again, he's not a replacement or answer for a back like Deuce. He is a great weapon to have, but he needs to be used in a special way. The Saints are still in need of an up the middle runner.
  • Colston had a rare drop on a sure catch, but then made an amazing one handed catch in the end zone right in front of me. Marques pretty much snatched it out of the air. I almost had an action shot of him leaping and making the grab, but alas, it eluded me. His catch and Reggie's leap tied for play of the game. We've got some pretty talented guys on this team.
  • Aaron Glenn has a nice pass breakup and I actually thought he was going to jump the route and make the interception.
  • Brunell actually looked good. He looked like he had a bit left in the tank and some of those balls had a good bit of velocity on them. Not sure whether we would still be able to make the playoffs if Brunell had to lead us, but it certainly wouldn't be awful. We would at least have a chance. I really like him.
  • We all got the wave going in the third quarter. The upper deck was a little behind the lower level.
  • Lance Moore put an end to the wave when he caught that long pass. It was a good throw by Brunell but a better catch by Lance. The defender was all over him and he still came up with it. Lance Moore...catches...everything. I can't stress that enough. He has great hands. I know the knock on him is that he never does anything with the ball after the catch, and that is certainly fair, but at least you know he is going to come up with it. I think he may make this team.
  • Kevin Dudley finished off that 82 yard drive, pretty nice for the second team.
  • Tracy Porter looked like he still needs some work. He was the culprit on a couple of passing plays. After one play it did look like he still had a bit of a limp. I don't think he is 100%

I have to say I walked away from this game pissed off and disappointed. Bittersweet really. The offense looked pretty good but the defense is just garbage. I am seriously afraid that this season will wind up turning out just like last year. I know we have made lots of changes to the defense, but none of it seems to be making a huge difference. I think we all need to realize that there is no such thing as a quick fix in the NFL. I thought maybe I would regret being so pessimistic in my "inspirational" post a couple of days ago, but I have to say, after this game, I may have been more correct that I ever wanted to be. The hope has certainly been taken out of this season for me and at this point, I definitely enter week one with a mindset of mediocrity.

Here are the pictures I took from the game. I hope you enjoy.

 

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Check out the tat! You don't need to see the whole thing to know what that bad boy says! However, I think it should be a ? and a ! It's a question yet you yell it at the same time.

 

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Walking in the concourse to my seat. This was about 20 seconds before I completely ate it by slipping on some wet tile. This camera barely made it! Believe it or not, I did NOT drink at the game.  Pure carelessness.

 

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MY seats. They are all mine, all year!! One thing I never understood is why they allowed Richard Simmons to upholster the Superdome seating. I mean, since they are spending so much money on fixing up the Dome, why not make the seats black and gold. Or even cooler, make it so that the chairs are colored in such a way as to form the fleur de lis logo in the upper deck. Anything is better than the random seat patterns consisting of incredibly curious color choices. No wonder they won't have a Super Bowl here.

 

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The view from my seats.

 

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More viewage from my seatage.

 

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Get some perspective! God I love football!

 

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For the guys.

 

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More for the guys. Honestly, Erin and I both agreed, the Saintsations seemed a little chunkier this year on the whole. It is NOT because they have decided to place more importance on dancing ability.

 

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For the ladies out there, let me say this: For some reason, jewelry and diamonds sparkle much more under the Dome lighting. Seriously. This picture is pretty pointless because you can't see the sparkle, but if you are recently engaged, or trying to impress a girl with jewelry, take her to the Dome. Can't lose. I don't know what hell it is, but something about the lighting in there is perfect for jewelry.

 

 

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The defense. Probably about to get toasted.

 

 

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Patten. Literally right before he made his big grab.

 

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Brees congratulating Patten.

 

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  Reggie and Drew sharing a special moment right after Bush's acrobatic TD.

 

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A dejected Jason David after getting beat...for the third time...in that series!

 

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Colston after his amazing catch. He is so damn awesome! That catch was unbelievable!

 

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Mark Campbell after his big catch and run. Look Stujo, he's okay!

 

Here is the roll call from the open game thread. Thanks to everyone who participated. You guys might not understand, but it really is a treat to come home from the game and see you guys have all convened here, at CSC, to come talk about the game. I am so proud.

Name# of Posts
satchmo26 18
Steve the fan 17
jjwest11 14
Saintsational 1
Hollywoo! 1
Hustl504 1
MDC 1
stujo4 1
TexasOutlaw 1

 

I read over the comments from the open game thread. Thanks to everyone for participating. Next week I will join you all again. To Jjwest11: Great to have you on board and actively participating. I wish you had checked CSC earlier, because the seat went empty. I happened to stumble upon a free ticket late yesterday afternoon and, to my surprise, no friends or family were interested. If you are local, you very much could have been enjoying the game with my fiance and I.

Please leave your own comments/observations/game reviews from yesterday. Since this is my first post-game report from a home game I am definitely interested in hearing your feedback. What do you like? what do you want to see more of? What is your favorite part. Please speak up!

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Most weekdays, I’m in a position to check this blog about 50 times throughout the day (a bit of an exaggeration). Even on weekends, I’m near enough to a computer to check email and a couple websites here and there, but yesterday I was out just about all day and made it back home just before the game. My gf would have been jealous, but I totally would have gone to the game with you if I had just seen that post earlier. It’s ok though, I’ll make it to a game at some point this season, but will probably have to settle for the nosebleed section.

by jjwest11 on Aug 17, 2008 8:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think one of the major problems of the defense is Gibbs. I think the scheme isn’t that great. If our D hasn’t vastly improved this season, I think Payton has to replace him for the team to do better.

I agree that Deuce’s runs were mediocre, but very promising. He did pick up 3 first downs (if I remember correctly).

And I honestly just feel bad for Jason David. I’m still confused why our team decided to pick up an undersized cover 2 corner to put into a man-scheme. It’s like they intended to set him up to fail. He’s looking better this year than last (at lest he’s getting beat but is usually in the area), but he might need another year to really be comfortable in the man-scheme … granted It usually takes 1-2 years to make the transition effectively.

by ctalati32 on Aug 17, 2008 8:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's my thoughts

…for what they’re worth. I didn’t get to watch the game—the best I could do was follow along on NFL.com—but some things were obvious.

1. Mehlhaff was drafted to get his kicks into the end zone. He had six kickoffs and not one of them went beyond the goal line. The kick coverage seems to have been pretty good, though—the Texans returned to the 20, 26, 23 19, 32, and 23 yard lines. Did that have something to do with the hang time, or are the Saints just very good this year at covering kickoffs?

2. Jason David was appallingly bad. I can’t see him making the team. If you had to choose between a grade D cornerback making a mint of money or any average on-the-bubble player with a lesser salary, who would YOU keep?

3. The Saints’ running game wasn’t really that bad. They averaged 4.5 yards per carry, to the Texans’ 3.2. The weak link, though, was Bush. He rushed 7 times and gained 1, 1, 1, 6, (-1, brought back on penalty), 6, 7, and 2 yards. An average of 3.4 yards—less than last year. I know this is just preseason, but this is also the “new” Reggie Bush. We have a right to expect better.

Stecker averaged 4.8. Deuce averaged 4 yards even. Not bad.

4. The Saints may have lost, but the first team won, 20-17. There’s no reason we should have given up 17 points and 187 yards through the air to the Texans in one half of play, but at least we outscored them. I think we would have outscored them in the second half too…but the Saints can’t afford to get into shootouts with everybody. Some teams actually have better offenses than Houston.

5. Andy Alleman had two false starts on one drive. Not the way to make the team.

6. Regarding uniforms: I love the Saints’ whites. I can’t stand the all-black look…they look like they’re playing in their pajamas. I think the best uniforms the Saint ever had were the ones introduced by Stram—gold helmets, black jerseys, white pants. Those were SHARP.

by MtnExile on Aug 17, 2008 9:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This guy said pretty much everything I would have...

I would like to pile on Jason David a bit more. It’s better to have a rookie makes these mistakes… The guy is terrible ALL THE TIME. Why waste any more time training him? Give Usama a chance. Make Devrey play corner. Anything is better than this.

I’m coming around on Pierre Thomas. That guy needs to play more. Much more.

by xen-cuts on Aug 17, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Payton press conference

I listened to the post-game locker room press conference last night and Payton was noticeably pissed. You could hear that he was beside himself with disgust and disappointment at how the defense played. He wasn’t willing to brush it off as just a preseason game, he knows there are some serious defensive problems. The press were trying to get him to call out a particular player as a cause (Jason David), but he wouldn’t do it. Someone asked about Vilma and could it have been that he was leading the first team defense for the first time with the helmet microphone and just wasn’t able to pull it all together, which made some sense to me. But, Payton didn’t agree. He kept saying that the defense as a whole was really bad. I bet he really let loose on both the players and the coaches afterwards.

It’s at least encouraging that Payton isn’t kidding himself about the poor play of the defense. It’s probably going to be a good thing that the D got torched last night in a preseason game because it highlights the fact that something must be done there by the coaches before the season starts (i.e. replace David as a starting CB; Young could do better). Not to find an excuse or anything, but the Texans do have a pretty good offense with a very good O-line. I think we’ll be hearing a lot about the defense this week from Saints camp. If Gibbs can’t work out some solutions soon, he may need to be replaced.

Go Saints!!!!

by satchmo26 on Aug 17, 2008 9:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This press conference is the Saint's hope.....

1. The secondary is incredibly weak. This is obvious, I know. It is a bit like telling a Memphis or New Orleans native that their city has a crime problem.

2. As has been said, the coaching staff is unlikely to change.

3. The secondary free agent market is the not the place to turn.

Acknowleging this leaves you with the current personnel making a choice to play better defense. While I never played on a collegiate or professional level, defense always came down to how bad you wanted to play it, and I have a suspicion that this is no different. The offense is easy, it is sexy. The defense requires the decision that I am going to beat my man to that spot despite him knowing what spot he is going too. So, all that to say, if Payton and his attempts to motivate these highly paid atheletes are successful then there will be improvement. If not, let’s hope our offense is better then the opponents offense b/c we know our defense isn’t.

And satchmo is right, it is already an uphill battle trying to turn Cover 2 guys into shut down, man to man corners.

by TonyChachere on Aug 17, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor Performance

I was also at the game, and I have to say your game notes and commentary are right on the money. Nothing I can say to add to that well written piece. Keep up the good work.

by dicecar18 on Aug 17, 2008 9:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gibbs needs to go...

I don’t care if this was a preseason game. It was woefully obvious that we’re going to have defensive problems. We were dead last in defense last year, and for that reason I’m surprised Gibbs still kept his job. We have talent on defense, there is no doubt about it. To me it is Gibbs’ philosophy, and his inability to create a scheme that maximizes that talent we have on the defensive side of the ball that is the problem. Sure, the players have to play, and of course they are held accountable by fans and media if they do not (re: Jason David). But to me, they are only half of the equasion. I think it is damn time that a bright, hot spotlight should begin to get focused on Gibbs.

Regarding Payton, I agree with Satchmo; thank God Payton isn’t sugar-coating his dissapointment. The best head coach the Saints have ever had. I love that man.

Colston is UN-FREAKING-BELEIVABLE. That catch in the endzone looked like a grown adult man was playing backyard football against his 10 year old younger brother. The game is so easy to him. It still boggles my mind how he fell to the 7th round. I think time will tell that he was the greatest draft steal in history…

by Hollywoo! on Aug 17, 2008 10:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And another thing...

I cant even remember the time when we ALMOST had an interception!!!! What the hell?! The defense is not being put in a position to succeed…

by Hollywoo! on Aug 17, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D-line

Despite a wealth of talent on the defensive line, they weren’t able to get to the qb consistently or even stop the run. It looks very bad.

by xen-cuts on Aug 17, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How often does a D coordinator get fired during the season???

I think we’re stuck with Gibbs for the year. Poor Jason David. He cannot start. He just can’t.

Dave, you are on to something about the Dome lighting. When I first sit down in my seat, I always look straight up at the ceiling where the lights are and stare. The place is weird, almost kind of dim but yet it’s not. LOVE it!! Congratulations on your engagement. We’re all invited to the wedding, right?

Excellent writeup and photos. Love the Campbell shot. Look how happy he is!

I believe the Dome seats are designed to fool the TV viewer during quick shots into the stands. The random pattern makes it look like people are sitting there, to avoid embarrassment during low turnout events. They are pretty ugly, though.

I missed the game, other than checking in on the play by play on nfl.com. (Company came over. I know, priorities!!) Good job, you guys who were on game thread.

Sobering event. I don’t know what to do. Is Lito Sheppard still available?

by stujo4 on Aug 17, 2008 10:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It hardly ever happens...

…that a D coordinator gets replaced during the season and, after further thought, it probably wouldn’t make sense to fire him at this point anyway. There has to be some noticeable improvement by next week. We’ll see if there is because Cincy is known to have a high-power offense. In many ways, the Saints and Bengals are very similar in that they both have very effective offenses and very questionable defenses.

Forgot to mention earlier that Saints Radio interviewed Jason David afterwards last night and he just basically said that the D needs to improve. He sounded to me like Aaron Brooks after an interception in that his tone of voice didn’t imply that he felt he had been at fault or anything. You can’t tell much from a radio interview as to what is really going on in a guys head, so who knows how he truly felt about his performance. I do feel really bad for the guy as the poor D play has been almost completely blamed on him in some circles. It’s not all his fault, but he needs to go back to a Cover 2 defensive scheme somewhere else. By week one, I’m hoping Gay and McKenzie are at full go and starting.

Go Saints!!!!

by satchmo26 on Aug 17, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like Brooks?

I’m going to a paper bag at game 1 if this guy starts. He’s terrible. The D-line is bad enough—it is not improved based on these games. But Jason David needs to be cut loose. He is costing way more by causing us to lose games.

by xen-cuts on Aug 17, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defense Toast

Jason David has to go. If you can’t do your job, you get fired. The opposing coordinator doesn’t have to plan anything except throw to the guy David is “covering”. I know other guys aren’t doing great either but David is a major problem.

From your picture, it looks like the Texans are at the 26 so from ESPN’s play by play, that leads directly to the Kevin Walter TD.

by Steve the fan on Aug 17, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good write up.

Thanks for your notes. For us that cant be at the game, seeing a fans points is always better then some pro who really doesnt care and is trying to write his x number of words.

I can barely get to see a regular season game, so I didnt get a chance for last nights preseason. What I have read here, scares the hell out of me.

Its like we hold up a sign saying “Throw the Ball Here!” And thats all I can say about the defense.

Offense. I hear we let Duece know how much he means to us. I dont feel to worried about this short runs. They were effective. They might not have been highlight reel, but you win games on the short yardage more consistantly then the big play (unless your playing against a certain corner sigh). Some pretty heavy flax on Reggie. Not sure he deserves it. Sounds like our Oline doesnt do him any favors at all.

What I want to know is why 1 carry for 9 yards is all Pierre got? Is there something we dont know there? I mean it seems everytime he touches the ball it moves forward by a nice chunk. WHY are we not seeing more? Are the stats I see wrong? Are they always aginst the benchwarmers? What gives on this one?

Recievers. We know who #1 is. I agree with you on Patten. The young guys can fight to knock him out but I say hes #2 until they can prove they are day in day out better. Moore might be able to catch anything thrown at him but if he cant figure out which way to run when he does catch it, im not sold on him yet. I think we might keep him around if he can be taught.

And my vote on Lito… is a big old NO.

Ah crap im thinking of the defense again I have to go throw up.

MT

by MT_always on Aug 17, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

Check out cbssportsline.com. The opening story is “Saints: The D Option”.

by TonyChachere on Aug 17, 2008 4:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Free ticket? Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My problem wasn’t beiing available but getting there! Spent half an hour triing to figure out how to make Montreal (home of the HABS) to Nollins in time. Asked a military friend of mine if I could do it airborne but canadian army only had second hand shoot….Would have tried my luck, but not on a pre-game….Canadian army, are you kidding me?

You guessed it, i’m a very lonely Saint Fan around my all-hockey around hood. But read my words: I promised myself i’d spent what ever it takes to make it to a play-off game at the Dome comes January if my beloved Saints are in the picture. That beiing said….

After yesterday’s game (and the game before, and last season) seems like I’ll probably be saving a lot of dough because, since Manning burned David in the first game last season, everybody in the league will (and has) gone for him. I won’t stand up for the guy that much but I’d be curious to see some stats on how much our poor David has been put up to the test compared to other CB around the league last year. Even if he’s in really good shape (and I don’t see it an issue) that must be exhausting! Specially with neither FS or SS support.

Given the guy knows how to play man-to-man (which he did in Washington State) I have no choice but jump in the “fire our D-coach” bandwagon. What’s more, I kind of feel like blaming the front office for picking up the wrong guys on UFA. Triing your luck with a nickel SuperBowl winner is one thing but doiing the same last pre-season with Gay beiing drop by the PATS (even if Asante Samuel was out of there) should proove that Loomis is just triing out his luck!

We have no FS, Harper still doesn’t have enough snaps to get the job done at SS and we’re stuck with the same guy that rought our defense in 30th place last year. ..

You tell me, how much can raw talent can overcome incompetence? God I hope they don’t srew Usama up…

Geaux Saints tabarnak!!!!!!!!!!!

by FrenchFreak on Aug 18, 2008 12:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pics

I like your personal pics from the game. Nice touch!!!

by Realsaint on Aug 18, 2008 7:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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