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Saints 24, Cardinals 10: First Impressions

Here are some initial observations after having watched the game twice (Tivo is a bloggers best friend). All discussion, agreement and disagreement is welcome.


This was the play of the game. (Associate Press)

Wide Receiver Battle Heats Up This will no doubt be what everyone is talking about today. David Patten should feel like a proud pop after Meachem's performance last night. We know the veteran receiver has been Meachem's biggest supporter and last night all their workouts together paid off. Meachem was just plain nasty! The first catch, an over the shoulder grab on an overthrown ball showed us just how much talent he has. The touchdown grab in the fourth quarter displayed his YAC ability after a spin move and a stiff arm helped him gain another 54 yards after the catch.

Meachem's performance last night was promising to say the least. It's his second year so that rookie buzz doesn't surround him anymore but it would be fair to view him as just that, a rookie. Saints fans should count their blessings because not very often do we have the pleasure of seeing two first round draft picks make their NFL debuts in one season. We should expect a lot out of this kid. Coming off a season when the Saints had the  number one offense in the league, Payton <em>still</em> used a first round pick on Meachem, so you better damn well believe he had a reason. That being said, we need to remember that this was just one game and pre-season games should never be used as accurate measuring tools. Meachem faced some pretty weak tackling.

Adrian Arrington also stepped it up last night and showed us why we have been talking about him the last two weeks of training camp. One of his two catches was nice as he came back to the ball and got his body in front of the defender.

That being said, the wide receiver battle has gotten more interesting. Meachem and Arrington both having good games means Copper, Moore, Henderson, Green and Blythe are in trouble.

Pass Rush The pass rush looked much improved. We seemed to be a step quicker and got much more pressure and penetration. Nothing amazing from Sedrick Ellis but I think he will be fine. One thing I am worried about, however, with our new pass rush that I noticed last night. Sending everyone over the line is risky. When you get good penetration in the backfield, you really have to get to the quarterback quickly otherwise the space behind those defensive linemen opens up. If a quarterback can get a short pass off quick enough, they can exploit this gap, dink and dunk, and allow the receiver to pick up lots of extra yardage after the catch. This was the case on several big plays early in the game last night.

Other random notes:

  • The Saints got off to a great start, their first drive going for 80 yards. 25 of those were on penalties however.
  • Brees of course was solid going 6/7 for 40 yards. The throw to Patten was pure beauty. The new goatee, however, is not. My fiance and I disagree on this point, as she liked Drew's younger new look. What does she know, she has poor taste in men!
  • I am pleased with Bush's performance. Reggie tried between the tackles quite a few times but not much was to be gained. In fairness, the line was not doing a great job of blocking. Reggie also showed some promise by breaking two decent size runs, but were both called back due to penalty. Nothing last night said this couldn't be his big year.
  • Brunell was pretty good also going 10/12. Good news in the horrific event that Brees goes down. Palko is just too shaky and inconsistent
  • Lance Moore got a shot with the first team and was fairly unimpressive. His stock may have fallen after last night.
  • The first team offensive line didn't look so hot. Reggie didn't have much to work with and as usual the Saints had to get it down through the air. This really needs to be cleaned up. Our running backs can only take so much of the blame.
  • Mark Campbell is making a case for the second tight end spot. He had 4 catches for 42 yards. I thought for sure we might see some Billy Miller but he was no where to be seen.
  • Mark Simoneau, yet again, refuses to go down without a fight when it comes to the starting spot. Simoneau had a nice sack in the first quarter. Hopefully Vilma will get a chance to show us what he's got and make his own argument.
  • Stecker looked pretty solid. More reason why I really don't think we need to even be thinking about bringing in a veteran back. I think we're covered, you just have to have faith.
  • Randall Gay was doing his best Jason David impression on the defensive first series, getting beat pretty badly on one play. Usama Young had to come in to make the tackle. Please not again this year...please. Jason David was trying not to do his best Jason David impression. Honestly, I don't feel like the cornerback picture has cleared up any after last night. We did not look much improved on that end. Hopefully this gets addressed or tonights performance was an aberration.
  • Nothing too special in the return game, certainly not on Skyler Green's part anyhow. In fact, Pierre Thomas had the best run back of the game. Nothing else impressive from Pierre unfortunately.
  • Mehlhaff made his field goal but skulled a kickoff. That may have been done on purpose however. The ESPN announcers seemed to think it was Gramatica's job to lose.
  • Orien Harris looked pretty good tonight as well. He and Usama led the team with five tackles.
  • I am glad the two Saints MNF games are home, meaning I will be in attendance and I won't have to listen to the "fingernails scratching on a chalkboard" sound that is Tony Kornheiser's voice. I do like his Ed Hochuli banter though.

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First impressions?

I wrote a bit on the poor media coverage last night at http://blackandgoldpatrol.blogspot.com

Your notes are spot on here.

I would add that when watching 3rd and 4th quarter pre-season games of Our New Orleans Saints, you usually have gotten the feel of the replacement players during the strike.
Not last night.

I felt the WRs were running pretty good routes even in the end.
Protection was decent.

Blocking for that guy with Wayne Wilson’s shirt on was good, additionally.
I don’t need to know his name unless he gets picked up by a divisional opponent, right?

Palko…......

Well, I guess I could put him on par with AB. Sometimes on the mark….sometimes like Bull Durham hitting the mascot….....

by dillyberto on Aug 8, 2008 9:21 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

I've only seen the game once, but...

Reggie: Expectations are SO high. His stats are nothing great, but he looks dangerous on every play. Contrast him with other running backs. I’m sure he got loose up the middle on at least one play and no one said a word (that wasn’t Stecker, too early). That would have been a nice run for anyone else. His 2 runs called back were just a shame.

Mark Campbell looked as good as he can look, good enough to be TE2. Seemed like he caught everything thrown to him and was only shaken up once, but not too badly. He seems to fall awkwardly. Maybe he needs Reggie’s balance training. I saw Billy Miller catch one pass and drop one, I think.

Stecker was amazing, I thought he was Reggie on that first carry. I’m feeling more comfortable with the RB’s.

I did not specifically see Usama Young make a tackle, but I did see him in on the play an awful lot, which is good. He knows where the ball is.

When is the first roster cut???

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2008 9:21 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Kornheiser = Bayless

I do agree with you that Tony ruins MNF. He’s right up there with Skip Bayless in book of “Dudes who kill TV shows with their annoying voices and unjustifiable claims”. I do like Jaws a lot, however, he was given the Saints some lovin that they deserved.

by baghead on Aug 8, 2008 9:27 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Kornyheiser

Yeah, I like Jaws and Trico, but Kornheiser in the booth is worse than having Bryant Gumble up there (what a poor choice that was). He has admitted that he doesn’t even really like football. See the below article:

http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2008/06/tony-kornheiser-thinks-hes-not-good-for.html

ESPN, what are you doing???

Go Saints!!!!

by satchmo26 on Aug 8, 2008 3:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'm afraid the secondary is more of the same

We are trying to turn zone guys into man to man and they are struggling.

The title for this video on nfl.com is “Watch Leinart shred the Saints”.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d809d4d11

by TonyChachere on Aug 8, 2008 11:36 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Nice video, Tony

The first pass, Gay just wasn’t staying close enough. The second one, Saints bit on them going deep and he dumped it off to the kid. But did you see Harper close in fast and put the hit on? Nice. Third one was ugly. I don’t know, 2 minutes of Leinart highlights and he throws one really good pass? I’m not too impressed.

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2008 2:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Is everyone but me using MS Internet Explorer?

I’m using Firefox and I suspect that’s why I can’t put a link into these comments.

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

I only use Firefox

It’s kind of tricky, but it’s possible to post links with Firefox. Just click on the the little chain icon and use that tool or I think you can just paste into the post as well. I check it by using the “preview” button first to ensure that the link shows up as a hyperlink.

Go Saints!!!!

by satchmo26 on Aug 8, 2008 2:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well then I'm an idiot

It doesn’t show up for me in preview. Are you using 3.0, Satch?

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2008 2:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yeah 3.0

Sometimes some extra stuff gets added at the beginning and end of whatever link you are copying that can screw up the hyperlink. After you copy your link address, check to make sure it begins with “http:” and ends just like the address you are copying.

http://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2008/8/8/589286/saints-24-cardinals-10-fir?login=1218224040

You know what, forget all that and just copy your address into the body. That just worked for me with the above link.

Go Saints!!!!

by satchmo26 on Aug 8, 2008 2:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Secondary still needs work

Yeah, it appears on the surface that not much has changed so far but I have to believe that it will get better. Randall Gay still has some adjustments to make, Jason David needs to stay out of his own head and not let last season get to him, and Usama Young is getting there but isn’t quite there yet. Plus, we haven’t seen our second round draft pick yet either. We can’t read too much into last night as it was meant to be a platform for all players to prove their worth, so there wasn’t much consistency in the personnel groupings. Plus, McKenzie seems like he’ll be ready for week one. Given more time in camp, I believe we’ll find a secondary line-up that may not be the greatest in the league but will be just good enough.

Go Saints!!!!

by satchmo26 on Aug 8, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

I agree absolutely

Do you think Payton believes that “Defenses win championships”??? I think he secretly believes his offense can outscore any other team in the league, whether it is 9 to 6 or 45 to 24. Somebody wrote here, last night I think, that the point of view might be that if you’re going to beat the Saints, you’ll need 28 points. And that really is my kind of team, always has been. Kind of a disappointment in a way if they don’t break 30. I know, I hear it all the time from my buddy who thinks the best game ever would be a defensive struggle and a final score of 6-3. Steelers fan. What does HE know. I respect a good defense. But, do you want a team like the Bears? yeah. I didn’t think so.

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2008 2:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

That brings up an interesting question...

Which did you enjoy watching more: the 2006 Saints offense, or the defense of the Jim Mora/Dome Patrol days?

I have to admit, watching the 49ers get the snot kicked out of them was gratifying.

by MtnExile on Aug 8, 2008 4:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

2006 offense

Only because it was great to finally see a Saints offense be able to put up so many points with some consistency. I don’t remember that ever really being the case before.

Go Saints!!!!

by satchmo26 on Aug 8, 2008 5:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Unfortunately...

I wasn’t too into football at the time of the Dome Patrol, so I can’t answer that one.

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by Saintsational on Aug 8, 2008 6:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well, both!

I was so proud to root for a respectable team under Coach Mora, that really turned people’s minds around about the Saints. Some, anyway. 2006 was crazy, though. I like the new Saints.

by stujo4 on Aug 9, 2008 12:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs


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