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Saints @ Redskins: Post-game Links

Here is a collection of links about today's loss to the Redskins. I will let you read what everyone else is saying before you read what I am going to say.

Saints travel to Washington - New Orleans Saints official website

New Orleans Saints fall to Washington - Times-Pic

Redkins rally to get Zorn first win - Washington Post

Redskins fight back for 29-24 win over Saints - Washington Times

Campbell, Moss lead Redskins over Saints - The Sports Network

Skins edge Saints as Santana Moss helps Campbell transform offense - ESPN

Redskins 29, Saints 24 - Fox Sports

Redskins 29, Saints 24 - DC Pro Sports Report

Let this be the official "venting" thread. Feel free to talk about any of the many mistakes the Saints made this afternoon and how they make you so angry you want to break a window. 

 

Here is the roll call for today's open thread. Thanks for everyone who participated!



Name# of Posts
Steve the fan 90
Saintsational 68
FrenchFreak 30
MT_always 28
xen-cuts 21
MobileSaint 14
BayouRebel 12
dell00 12

Poll
What do you blame for the Saints loss against the Redskins?
Tracy Porter
1 votes
The defense's second half performance
19 votes
poor tackling
6 votes
Too many turnovers
9 votes
Drew Brees
1 votes
Lack of running game
23 votes
No pressure on Campbell
9 votes
Poor coaching
14 votes

82 votes | Poll has closed

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Poor playcalling

I think the game was lost on that 3 and out by the Saints in the 4th quarter. The Skins just cut the lead to 2 and Payton calls three straight run plays and comes up short on 3rd down. Jason Cambell next throws the TD bomb and the game was over. That was frustrating to watch! The Saints gave that win away.

I can’t fault the defense too much because of all of the key injuries they had on that side of the ball. Porter had a couple of bad plays, but he will get better and he is already a safer bet than Jason David.

Can Payton please make up his damn mind with Deuce!? Why not play him more in the game!? He had 2 runs for 10 yards. The running game was nonexistent. I’m not ready to jump off the bandwagon by any means, but I don’t understand Payton’s reasoning in the 4th quarter of this one. I’m sick of seeing Reggie try to run between the tackles and get stuffed at the line of scrimmage. Deuce wants to play, so let him play!

Go Saints!!!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 14, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions  

YES YES AND MO YES

You are absolutely correct. Not only did he call three straight run plays, he does not bring in Deuce?? WTF, did he get hurt again and I missed it? P Thomas did an ok job but he ain’t Deuce at least not yet and I like PT. And yes Porter got his welcome to the NFL rookie day today but at least he was in the TV frame unlike JD.
Two things is it me or does Payton make some really questionable calls in tight games at the end, and (here comes the Louisiana in me), does Reggie put roots on us when ever he taunts other players during a td run? Remember how the game changed after he taunted the Chicago players in the playoffs in ’06? Now my mama said if you get crushed glass in a handkerchief and throw it over your right shoulder on the north end of the bayou you can get them roots off you. Anybody wanna give that a shot before we get too far into the season??

by BigTMill on Sep 15, 2008 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Roots. I don't know what that means.

First,

at least he was in the TV frame unlike JD.

LOL!! Good one.

I’m not from around here. What is the meaning “put roots on us” and “get them roots off you” ? I googled it, nothing.

by stujo4 on Sep 15, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Frustrated rant continued: Denver will be a tougher challenge

The Saints will have a harder time with the Broncos, so I hope they study this game film and figure out some solutions for what went wrong today. The temporary loss of Colston is proving to be more of a problem than we figured it would be. His presence was sorely missed today. In regards to Henderson, I was wrong about his potential effectiveness. He was a complete non-factor today.

On the brighter side (if there truly is one after this loss), this was just one game and it would be premature for us to expect another dismal season at this point. Several players should return from injury this week and help shore up the team. It’s time for Payton to put that creative offensive mind to work and come up with a brilliant game plan for Denver. Here’s a suggestion: GIVE DEUCE MORE THAN TWO CARRIES! Maybe he is washed up, but at least give him a chance to prove otherwise.

Go Saints!!!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 14, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

henderson

you know what? Henderson actually had a chance to turn this game around. That long incompletion in the 4th quarter that was knocked away by laron landry. That should have been a catch. I think it probably would have been a catch, too, had brees not underthrown it. Brees has been underthrowing long passes all season! Look at that Meachem catch as another example. The ball was well behind Meach and it was lucky to even get to him. I guess that same luck ran out on Henderson.

by xen-cuts on Sep 16, 2008 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good POINT!!

Xen, I thought the same thing. You had the guts to type it out. We all love Brees but when is the last time he overthrew somebody deep this year? He underthrew DH on Sunday like you said, seems like he underthrew Meachem as well (I could be wrong about that) and he definitely underthrew Meachem on his big catch in preseason. In contrast, Tony SUH Romo hit TO in stride 60 yards deep in the air last night. I love Drew and I would not trade him for Romo (seriously) but… as Dirty Harry said, a man has got to know his limitations. Get the ball downfield sooner.

by stujo4 on Sep 16, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't see the game

…only a few highlights and the stats. So take this for what it’s worth. Anyway:

1. A coach has got to understand what he can and cannot do. For some reason, the Saints’ running game is broken. I don’t think the problem is Reggie, or Pierre, or a lack of Deuce—I think it’s the line. Either the personnel or, more likely, the scheme. They excel in pass blocking, but not run blocking.

Why, then, do we try to run out the clock at the end by rushing up the middle? True, it keeps the clock running…but if you only get to run three plays, SO WHAT?! What’s important is making that first down. If the Saints can’t run the ball, then they can’t run out the clock—they have to play for scores. They should have been playing to score. The problem on offense boils down to coaching.

2. I know the defense was thin this week, but they’re exhibiting the same tendencies and failures they did last year. That’s too much to be a coincidence. When Porter was beat deep by Moss for the winning score, where was the safety? Either he blew it and left Porter on an island, or he did exactly what he was supposed to do and Porter was betrayed by the deficiencies of the scheme.

Once again, the problem seems to come down to coaching.

3. What is most disappointing is that the Saints sit here at .500—little better than they were last year—after displaying the same offensive and defensive tendencies as in 2007. I think we were all wrong: this is not a Superbowl team. This is the continuation of the 7-9 team from last year. And Loomis and Payton have mortgaged the future for this sorry present.

4. Still…these are my Saints. I won’t give up. If they go 1-15, I won’t give up. Maybe that’s stupid; if so, I blame coaching.

by MtnExile on Sep 14, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Defense wins games

As many times as that is said by those that have won, it would seem that we would get that. I straight get jealous when I see a team that was sorry a year or two ago and now see that they addressed their defense and now they have guys who are killing em out there. Was the pass D a fluke last week? I mean Jason Campbell is no Drew Brees and he was alluding the rush big time. Ellis was a great addition, but so far and some of y’all might disagree but Vilma is not showing me enough, and to not seriously and I mean as serious as we went after Shokey, address that defensive secondary is totally beyond me, when the likes of Pacman, Samules, Litto, and even more pro-bowlers were available and we take JD one year and Gay the next hummm. Come on somebody please tell me what’s really going on. Is there a conspiracy gong on here that we don’t know about?? This ain’t rocket science. We’ve had these same needs since ’06 and BK (Before Katrina).

by BigTMill on Sep 15, 2008 11:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Defense wins games if your offense "can't find a rhythm" and doesn't score enough points

If the boys had played up to half of their potential, this game wouldn’t have been close.

by stujo4 on Sep 15, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

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