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Here we are on another Monday following yet another Saints loss. Another game in which the team played less than spectacular but managed to find themselves in a position to win. Another game the Saints could have won if they could only just close the door and finish the game. 

As is usually the case after any soul crushing loss there is finger pointing. This week many of those fingers are pointed squarely at head coach Sean Payton. Others are pointed at Pierre Thomas. Allow me to be one of the few to say that I'm afraid those fingers are pointed in the wrong direction.

When looking back at any football game, one can always look to several key plays during the course of the game that, had they gone only slightly differently, could have easily changed the direction and/or outcome of the entire game. There were two of those plays yesterday and one play last week that now have Who Dats up in arms. Of course I am referring to the 3rd and 1 run by Pierre Thomas late in the game that could have kept the clock running as well as his fourth down attempt on the goal line at the end of the first half. Let's also not forget about last weeks short yardage situation that Pierre Thomas also failed to convert. Switch the outcome of those plays alone and the Saints could be sitting on top of the NFC South at 3-0 instead of looking up from 1-2, leading many fans to question, "What the hell were they thinking!?"

The fact is we could analyze every play of every game we have ever played. We can go through the "what if" game every Monday until our eyes bleed but that won't get us anywhere. And let's face it, we also wouldn't be so focused and upset about Payton's decisions or Pierre's inability to gain a yard if Gramatica makes that kick and the Saints win the game. In that situation, they are just brief mentions that get ignored and filed under "needs to get cleaned up" as we happily and blindly look forward to the Niners. Yet we still play the "what if" game, pretending we know more than the professionals, so here I am to defend.

Let's talk about Payton first. Personally, I agree with those angry with the coach. Payton definitely could have called the game better. Run those particular plays differently, and the outcome of both games may be drastically changed. Maybe we should have passed. Maybe we could have used Karney. Why the heck did Bush check out of the game on third down anyway!? I agree that there is probably a Payton mistake or two lying somewhere in there. But to put the blame squarely on this shoulders because a small percentage of plays didn't go the right way is absurd.

Maybe Payton did make some poor decisions during the game but so did his players and they are the ones out on that field. Their actions are directly tied into the outcome of each and every play whereas both Sean Payton's good and bad play calls are only indirectly tied into the results of each play and ultimately the entire football game. It is incumbent on the players to execute! How many times in your personal life, be it at work or at home with your family, have you asked or told someone to do something only to find out they didn't do it to your liking if at all? Putting blame on him for two plays out of a total of 58 plays throughout the course of an entire game is ridiculous. There were quite a few other plays out of the 56 remaining plays that didn't go too well. What did Payton's play calling have to do with Reggie Bush coughing up the football that wound up getting picked up and returned for a quick six points? If that single play never happens and Reggie holds onto it, the Saints don't even need Gramatica at the end of the game. What about Jason David's Pass Interference penalty on a crucial third down and seven play? Was that Payton's arm outstretched and grabbing onto the receiver? If David backs off that receiver and the pass goes incomplete, the Broncos don't score a touchdown five plays later as is the case in real life.

Mistakes are made by everyone involved throughout the course of a football game. There is plenty of blame to go around as both Payton and his players made numerous mistakes yesterday, some more obvious then others. They all add up to form what we all call a football game. The sad truth is that Payton actually called a pretty darn good game only to be let down by his players. He took everything that happened in the first 58 minutes of the game - the good and the bad - and still put his team in a position to win. I mean hell, we came back after being down 21-3! To blame him completely for the loss is just plain unfair. At the end of the game all Payton could do was take the lemons that were given to him and make lemonade. If Payton deserves jeers for his bad play calling then he certainly desrves an equal amount of cheers for getting this team back in the game. The truth is that this game wasn't always pretty and it certainly wasn't always perfect but it was there for the taking. Gramatica and the Saints just couldn't close the door that had fortunately creeped open for them. If there is one criticism of him at all it should be that he's not doing enough to get these players to perform to the best of their ability on a consistent basis. That his ability to motivate is lacking. Particularly the offensive line. It is not entirely to rest on his play calling. The majority of the blame lies with the players who just did not execute. Payton didn't let this team down, the team let themselves, the fans and Payton down!

Then of course there is my boy Pierre. You better believe I am going to defend him on this one. I will make this as clear as possible for everyone reading so there is no miscommunication. The problem is our offensive line. Did you get that? Write it down if you have to. If they are a member of the Saints and their name begins with a "J," I would say there is a good chance they are at fault on these short yardage plays. I will let faithful CSC reader MobileSaint take it away on this one, as I think he sums it up perfectly.

Somebody has to seal the backside on that 3rd and 1 play. There is no running back on the roster or in the league who can get the first down if that guy isn’t blocked. No problem with the play call here. Execution is the problem.

The other problem I have with the way the Saints use Pierre Thomas is frequency. I like Reggie Bush and by no means do I think Pierre should be any kind of replacement for him. However six touches in one game is not enough for Pierre to get into a rhythm. I don't think it's fair to expect him, or any back in the league for that matter, to come up with some big, game saving play when he's been standing on the sideline most of the time. He was successful in Chicago last season because he was the main guy. If the Saints want Pierre to succeed, they have to give him a chance instead of expecting him to change the world with a few touches. Of course you smart readers out there might say, "Well isn't that Payton's fault? This is why he needs to go!" Again, I have already admitted Payton is not perfect. Does that mean Payton is the worst coach ever and cost us the game? No. Does it mean he should b fired? No. Do his players need to execute when called upon? A resounding yes!

After a loss like yesterday there is plenty of blame to go around. Certainly this offensive line is part of the problem. Unfortunately, their poor play affects so many other areas of the game. When they have a bad day, a few other playerss have bad days as well. Gramatica, unfortunately, must share some blame as well. It sucks that the Saints made many mistakes during the game and had to put the game squarely on his leg but that was the situation and that's what he gets paid for. Martin, like so many Saints yesterday, just didn't execute. I'm sure the NY Giants didn't play the perfect game they wanted to play yesterday, but in overtime with the game on the line, former Saint John Carney kicked the game winning field goal. I am having a hard time remembering why we ever got rid of him.

At the end of the day it all came down to bad execution, most notably by our atrocious offensive line. Start pointing your fingers.

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Does this change your mind?
Payton is still an idiot!
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Pierre still sucks!
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Thanks Saintsational! You have opened my eyes!
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It is only partly Payton's fault.
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It is only partly Pierre's fault.
3 votes

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I don’t think Payton’s an idiot; I certainly don’t think Pierre Thomas sucks; but my eyes aren’t really opened by the suggestion that players still need to execute. Of course they do; but a coach needs to understand what his team is capable of. Last week, and in the first half yesterday, Payton’s line failed in key short yardage situations. His passing game, on the other hand, had the Broncos rocked back on their heels, gasping for life. So what did he call in the critical period leading up to the field goal attempt? Three straight runs. Would you have done this same thing, being of the opinion that the line is “atrocious”?

Sure, the players have to execute. But the coaches call the plays. Good playcalling is a part of the game; good playcalling in critical situations is part of what separates good teams from bad ones. Right now, I have to say that our playcalling fails too often in critical situations. If Payton is the one calling the plays, he has to accept at least part of the blame for the loss.

by MtnExile on Sep 22, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I just want...

…a little more explanation regarding Deuce. That’s all. I don’t totally blame Payton and I don’t fault Pierre for anything. I like Pierre a lot. Believe me, what is fueling this sudden outrage against Payton is fans seeing Deuce standing on the sideline with his helmet on and not being sent into the game and with no explanation from Payton. As long as fans keep seeing that on their TVs, hearing announcers like Troy Aikman and others question Payton for not using him, and seeing the running game struggle, this will continue and only get worse. I’m not calling for Payton’s head or anything. Maybe he has a good reason for not playing Deuce. Deuce may not be the answer because there are definitely problems with the O-line blocking. I just want to hear him address this. That’s not too much to ask.

Go Saints!!!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 22, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

It explains everything

The offensive line is hurting Bush’s value on the ground and killing Pierre Thomas, but let’s not forget how they’re being utilized.

In my mind, Bush’s real value is as a pass catching weapon out of the backfield. He is not a 20 carry running back; it’s arguable if he’s even that valuable as a 15 carry running back. What the Saints need (besides significant help on the line; see Atlanta Falcons, 2007) is to give Thomas at least 10-15 carries a game, Bush perhaps 10 and just throw to him constantly to make up for the absence of Shockey.

Those who call Bush a complete bust are mistaken, but a change in the way your guys do business in the ground game can only help the offense. Just my two cents.

by Dave Choate on Sep 22, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Yesterday was an example of what could happen

If you saw on the plays Bush did well on he had blocking. If we could only do that more often. Pierres role right now is a 3rd down back, 3rd down backs are supposed to come in and do it on 3rd down, I’m not expecting him to get more than a few carries and no rhythm is needed. Fullbacks/third-down backs do it all the time. But…if, like Reggie, who sometimes gets barely around 10 carries a rhythm is needed if you’re expected to contribute on more than 3 and 1. So I mostly blame the Oline, somewhat blame Pierre (his experience) and somewhat blame Payton… all the what ifs are hypothetical. The fact is we don’t know what would’ve happened if there was no fumble. Or if we got the 2 point conversion, different circumstances change the opposing teams plans… But good article!

by TAYDIGGA on Sep 22, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

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