Thoughts on the Draft
Ever since that last play against Carolina, I've been thinking about the Draft. I'm pretty knowledgeable, as college football fans go; mainly my experience is with the SEC, but I get around, so to speak. Unlike most college fans in the South, however, I give a damn about the NFL, and I give a very special damn about the Saints. Naturally then I feel morally obligated to start a discussion on the Draft for CSC that doesn't involve known mental midget Todd McShay or known appletini drinker Mel Kiper. Here are some thoughts on defensive prospects who have declared for the upcoming Draft:
Safeties:
Rashad Johnson, S, Alabama: Johnson was the leader of a very good Alabama defense this past season, and had a number of solid games, including his three-pick performance that sealed the deal against LSU. Johnson is not a physical specimen by the NFL's current standards, but neither were Mike Singletary or Marshall Faulk; and like them, Johnson studies film religiously and plays smart, smart football. Johnson is excellent in both deep and shallow zones, he can win jumping contests, and he excels at the "robber" coverage that is the hallmark of Nick Saban's defenses; roving zone coverage in the middle of the field. Johnson disguises his coverages well and caused a number of interceptions off of pass deflections. In addition, he's as solid a tackler as you'll find at free safety and diagnoses run blocking schemes well, as far as I can tell. Unlike most safeties, he's not an opportunist; instead, he plays the position more in the traditional sense of trying to limit big plays, not make them, sort of a reverse Taylor Mays. He's the safest pick I can think of the position, and I believe that he could instantly improve the Saints' D by corralling the secondary. On the other hand, keep in mind the last stud safety with a cool name to come out of Alabama: Roman Harper.
Louis Delmas, S, WMU: Delmas has long been considered one of those diamond-in-the-rough-type players who, like Jerry Rice of the immortal Mississippi Valley State, are better than their pedigrees. Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to see him play, although all you ever hear about him are good things, kind of like Eric Chung of Oregon. If anyone has seen him play, please let me know what you think.
Derek Pegues, S, Mississippi State: Pegues had the misfortune to play on a bad, bad Mississippi State team this year, but I have many memories of him single-handedly beating better teams in the SEC last year. He's the quintessential opportunist, jumping routes and, due to his blinding speed, returning picks with considerable frequency. He's had a down year, but that's due both to his team lacking even the pretense of an offense or a pass rush. He's still a very good player who, like Ed Reed, can make plays where they don't seem possible to make. Kind of a dangerous pick (like, in my opinion, Taylor Mays), but I have immense respect for his talent. It's worth noting that he's a great returner as well, possibly taking away some more opportunities for Reggie to get injured.
William Moore, S, Missouri: Like seemingly everyone else at CSC, I'm down on William Moore, and have been for some time. This past year he was the captain of a defense that let up 400 yards to the least accurate quarterback in the Big Ten, Juice Williams. Mizzou's defense was absolutely porous this year; they were diced up by Big 12 offensive juggernauts and Big 10 cupcakes alike, and Moore didn't help matters. He plays safety like I do in Madden; he just kind of waits for the ball to land in his arms, and seems much more concerned with stopping the run, which Mizzou wasn't good at.
Corners:
DJ Moore, CB, Vanderbilt: Moore was what I think of as a shutdown corner, a guy who you don't throw to even without pressure being put on the QB. Moore played in a very complex zone blitz system at Vandy, and did so intelligently. He's a physical guy and has the ability to blitz if necessary. He fits in very well with the image of a Philadelphia Eagles corner, a versatile, hard-hitting guy who can cover well in a zone. Probably the safest pick at corner in a Gregg Williams defense.
Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest/Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati: Two very effective man-to-man cover corners. I have more experience with Mickens, who's quite the ball hawk when given the opportunity, but Smith is, by all accounts, the best corner in the Draft.
Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois/Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State: Two Big 10 CB's who we won't/shouldn't get. I haven't seen anything too impressive from either corner, whose smallish numbers are supposed to be the result of opposing QBs' unwillingness to throw to them. All I know is that two guys who have played on teams with a pass rush will probably have trouble on a team without one. But hey, what do I know? They could both be Pro Bowlers. All I know is that Davis got lit up by Chase Daniel (who, as you may know, was revealed as a fraud later in the season) and Jenkins was a no-show in his bowl games (like his team, natch), including getting burned by "Wrath of" Quan Cosby on the final touchdown in the Fiesta Bowl.
D-Line
Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas: Probably the most widely-recognized pass rusher in college football this past season, Orakpo is probably a top-ten guy, meaning he's not going to be a Saint, most likely, because of how little we have to trade with (Would anyone like colorful Pro Bowler Jeremy Shockey? Anybody?). Should we get him, however, I think he could instantly improve our pass rush. He probably single-handedly cost Phil Loadholt a few million dollars in the Red River Shootout, and his absence was immediately felt by the Texas defense in their loss to Texas Tech. If Big 12 refs ever called holding, Orakpo could've had even more ridiculous stats. A dominant player, but probably not a Saint.
Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech: Johnson has the size to be a hybrid DE/OLB-type guy in the Julius Peppers mold, and has appeared very athletic in the games I've seen him in. He's not an unstoppable force, but he was the best player on a good line.
Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB, Penn State/Clint Sintim DE/OLB, Virginia/Everette Brown DE/OLB, Florida State: Apparently all these guys are monsters, but I've never gotten to see any of them play beyond individual games. Brown's stats are enough to have him projected as a top-ten pick, so I assume he's out of our reach. Maybin had a serious motor at the beginning of the Rose Bowl, but was invisible after USC started to pull away. Sintim I'm totally in the dark on.
Sen'Derrick Marks, DT/DE, Auburn/Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU: Marks underachieved this past season at Auburn, mainly, I think, due to being on the field 45 minutes a game and due to being switched from end to tackle. Jackson also underachieved; why, exactly, I do not know, but taking the guaranteed triple-team that is Glenn Dorsey out of the picture had to have something to do with it. Both are big ends and smallish tackles, who specialize in blowing up running plays (they can both rush the passer effectively, however). Jackson's more of a 3-4 guy, but, if given the chance, could do well in a 4-3 as an all-purpose end. Marks I have less faith in because of his immaturity, but he had a few moments in the 2007 season where he was the best player on the field.
By the way, I'll just state for the record that I don't think the Saints need another linebacker, certainly not with our first pick, like WalterFootball does. Vilma's great, Fujita can cover and plays the run well (he can't blitz, but oh well), and Shanle's underrated.
So, comments? Any other ideas, guys?
This FanPost was written by a reader and member of Canal Street Chronicles. It does not necessarily reflect the views of CSC and its staff or editors.
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Agreed
On the Linebacker part. I remember Shanle getting beat a few times in coverage but i think he’s fine. I’d say get another young corner. Bullocks and Harper are young, maybe Gregg Williams can figure out how to use them. A good coverage free safety would be nice too though.
Good analysis
It is looking more and more like Johnson is The Guy. We desperately need a good safety, and since Williams is inclined to build the defense back to front, I think that’s who we’ll target. (Unless we fall for the “value for pick” philosophy, in which case we’ll take a wide receiver.)
I disagree somewhat about the linebacker situation; I like Shanle and Fujita, but they’re slow, and that lack of speed seems to have been a big part of our tendency to give up big plays. But I say “somewhat” because people were often so woefully out of place in Gibbs’ defense that I still wonder if they weren’t doing exactly what his scheme told them to do. It’s hard to assess blame when your defensive coordinator is Gary Gibbs. Even Roman Harper may yet turn out to be a stud.
Oh when the Saints...Start kicking ass...You don't want to be in that number...
good job
being from pennsylvania and a penn state fan, i can tell you maybin has a serious motor. however, he is a bit of a tweener – he really only played one season at psu and would probably be best suited as an outside backer in a 34 scheme. jared odrick, who was 1st team all big ten next to maybin is from the high school i work at and our a.d. told me that odrick said maybin has to go pro because he can’t afford to not put on any weight over the next year and have people guessing where he projects for a full year, so that was maybin’s reason for going pro – great motor, but could probably use another year in college.
by DeuceisLoose926 on Jan 22, 2009 7:39 AM CST reply actions
rashad johnson
I am with SaintsDynasty above. I am not sold on a rookie free safety and would rather see a good pickup in FA, even though I am an Alabama fan and would still like to see Johnson in Black-and-Gold as he is a ballhawk.
If we sought him, the trick would be how to get him, as in my estimation right now, No. 14 is too high (according to most draftniks). Would love to see us trade down if the right guy is not available and maybe pick up a 2nd or 3rd round pick to complement a first rounder a la what Carolina did this past year.
Something tells me Gregg Williams will have a lot to say about this pick.
fruly—I get pretty antsy with the idea of drafting a corner, as they, with maybe five exceptions historically, are traditionally frauds. By which I mean they’re only as good as their pass rush. Look at San Diego this year; without Shawne Merriman wreaking havoc in the opposing backfield, wideouts had plenty of time to get open and QB’s plenty of time to throw to them. Cromartie and Jammer are both good corners, but it’s rare indeed to find one who’s good without any help from the rest of the team. I don’t think there’s a Champ Bailey in this draft, and that’s the kind of corner we’d have to have with that high a pick.
MtnExile—You’re right about the lack of speed in our linebacking corps, and picking up a sideline-to-sideline guy like LSU’s Darry Beckwith at OLB (where he belongs, as LSU fans know) could really help. I also think that Harper could end up a very solid safety, provided he’s given the benefit of a pass rush and decent corners. Like Bob Sanders, he can get a little lost in coverage, but he’s excellent in run support, which was his forte in college anyway.
Deuce—Thanks for the info. I think Maybin’s out of our reach anyway, and if you’re right about him needing time to mature, that could be for the best.
SaintsDynasty—Raji’s not really good for our scheme, as he’s a little big to play nose tackle in a 4-3. His draft stock is also through the roof, and I don’t think we need another DT so soon with as promising a young star as Sedrick Ellis. Brian Young manages, when he’s healthy.
MobileSaint—I figure we’ll have to do as much. Johnson’s not really a superstar, and he may not even be the best college free safety in the draft; taking him at 14 really is a little much. I disagree on his possible impact, though, as he was unquestionably the most polished and pro-style safety in college last year. We can only hope Loomis and co. see things the way you do.
Puck the Fats.
Amen to that
If Big 12 refs ever called holding, Orakpo could’ve had even more ridiculous stats.
You have no idea. On the play where Orakpo was hurt against Tx Tech (on which he was held, by the way), another Texas pass rusher just about had his helmet removed by the facemask.
As for the Saints, I’m cool with Harper, but Bullocks needs to go. I also think Shanle is a weak link and a LB to replace him would be a huge upgrade.
I'm willing to give Harper one more chance too...(can't tell you why though)
But Bullocks is a waste of space…I guarantee he won’t be on this team next year. Williams will see that play against the Falcons where Bullocks flies in recklessly trying to tackle Turner, but instead takes out Gay and I-forget-who-else, who had Turner wrapped up, giving Gay a concussion, and springing Turner free for a big gain…
I had to rewind that play, because I couldn’t believe my eyes…
On second though, I can tell you why…Harper does make occasional plays, when he’s in the right position. Gary Gibbs.
Bullocks is just worthless. Actually worse than worthless. He hurts his own teammates.
Damnit I’m getting pissed again…
All I want for Christmas are two new Safeties...
Rec'd this post btw...
Great insight…you should start your own website…
All I want for Christmas are two new Safeties...
whatever happened
to Johnathan Sullivan? Remember that guy? Didn’t we trade 2 first rounders for that beast? Saints could have had Polamalu that same year.
Hot Boudin, Cold Cous Cous, Comon Tigers Poosh Poosh Poosh!
Yup it was the year after they looked like geniuses drafting Stallworth and Charles Grant with our first two picks
I think they got a little too starry-eyed with UGA DLs.
The Detroit Lions are on the clock!
Yeah, we traded something like the 16 and 17 pick in the draft for that fat tub-o-shit
Can he be prosecuted for theft? He stole Tom Benson’s money…
Polamalu as a Saint….we’d be in the Superbowl, not the Cards…
Alright...I'm cool with Harper. Bullocks must go!

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