NY Giants @ New Orleans Saints: Chat with the Enemy
by Saintsational on Oct 14, 2009 6:01 AM CDT
126 comments
It's that time of the week when we get to know the next Saints opponent a little better by talking with that teams respective SB Nation blogger. This week that would happen to be none other than Ed Valentine of Big Blue View.
We tried a little something different this week. Instead of the static five questions, Ed and I chose a time and place to meet on cyber space and have a live chat about our two teams. Below is that discussion in it's entirety. Personally, I prefer this method and will look to do it more in the future but if you disagree, let me know in the comment section.
I would like to thank Ed for his time and answers. Check in on Big Blue View regularly this week for the latest info on the Giants.
Canal Street Chronicles: My first question has got to be about Eli. I know he says he's find but Plantar Fasciitis is a very painful and very lingering injury. Are you worried about it effecting his play on Sunday?
Big Blue View: No, not really...he was absolutely fine on Sunday and threw the ball beautifully. Of course, he barely played into the second quarter as it was already 28-0, so maybe that wasn't a good test. I am curious to see what happens if he has to move around some or gets popped a couple of times, but I'm not worried about his ability to make the throws.
Canal Street Chronicles: Today [Tuesday] on Big Blue View you mentioned Brandon Jacobs' inability to break out in 2009. What should Saints fans expect from the Giants running game?
Big Blue View: A heavy dose of it, I think. The Giants can score (they are 2nd in the league in points), but my guess is they want to avoid a shootout if they can. So, they will try to run the ball. Jacobs is healthy, I just think that when he is in the game teams have been crowding the line of scrimmage more giving him fewer places to run. When he hesitates at the line or has to change direction before he's into the secondary he isn't as effective. Ahmad Bradshaw has been tremendous. He's a big-time playmaker and a breakaway threat every time he touches the ball.
Canal Street Chronicles: What do you think the Giants defense needs to do to stop the Saints offense?
Big Blue View: Is the Saints offense stoppable? Seriously, it's all about the pressure. Can the Giants vaunted defensive line get to Drew Brees, or will they have to bring extra people. The Giants are easily No. 1 in the league in pass defense at 104.8 yards per game, but in some respects that is just as much about the caliber of teams they have played as it is anything else. I am very curious to see how Terrell Thomas at corner, and C.C. Brown and Aaron Rouse (replacing the injured Kenny Phillips) hold up at safety against this passing attack.
Big Blue View: Let me turn this around on you a bit. How well do you think the Saints defense matches up with the Giants offense? And what worries you more, Eli Manning or the Giants running game?
Canal Street Chronicles: I have a lot of confidence in the Saints defense now and nothing would surprise me anymore. They have proven they are good enough to win games for the Saints even when the offense can't get it done. They have been pretty good at shutting down the run but the threat of a two-back attack worries me a bit. That could play a factor as the game wears on. But I'm a bit suspicious of Eli's injury and if the Giants success depends on him, I'm confident the Saints can bring some pressure and take advantage.
Big Blue View: Tell me a little more about that unit, since I'm really not as familiar with the personnel as I should be.
Canal Street Chronicles: After a couple of disappointing seasons, veterans Charles Grant and Will Smith have finally been earning their exorbitant paychecks. Grant leads the team with 4.0 sacks. On the inside is Sedrick Ellis, last years first round draft pick, and Remi Ayodele has been filling in well for the injured Kendrick Clancy. Also in the mix is Anthony Hargrove who plays both DE and DT. He has a big motor and has been a pleasant surprise for fans this year.
Canal Street Chronicles: I'm assuming you have no regrets about the Shockey trade? Are you worried he might be out for blood this weekend?
Big Blue View: Oh, he will be fired up. We know that. Shockey was a great player for the Giants for a long time, though not as great and not as important as he thought he was. That was always the crux of it. He wanted the offense to be about him, and under Tom Coughlin the offense will never be about the tight end. No regrets because the Giants are doing just fine, thank you.
Big Blue View: I have to turn that around and ask you your impressions of Shockey. I know he had a rough first year. He leads the team in receptions this year, I believe. How well is he playing, and behaving?
Canal Street Chronicles: He's behaving fine. None of that baby stuff. The Saints have a great locker room with only quality players. As far as on the football field, he's a go-to guy. Brees trusts him and knows he can make those tough catches. Shockey caught two touchdowns in week one against the Giants but has been more quiet lately. In my opinion, he still needs to do a bit more to prove this trade was worth the draft picks the Saints gave up.
Canal Street Chronicles: Any memories of Sean Payton as offensive coordinator on the Giants and having playcalling duties taken away from him?
Big Blue View: Oh, sure. I have to admit I NEVER thought Payton would be a quality NFL head coach. He was pretty much a flop in New York in getting along with Jim Fassel, and I don't think he did that great of a job in Dallas with Bill Parcells, either. I had no clue what the Saints were thinking when they hired the guy. But, that's why I do this and people who run football teams run football teams. Except for Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato, that is.
Canal Street Chronicles: What does it feel like, as a fan, to have your team win the Superbowl? Saints fans don't know the feeling and this year is as good as any to finally get that chance.
Big Blue View: Well, all I can say it is a feeling you want to experience again and again. Super Bowl 42 was the greatest Giants game I have ever seen, and I will always remember it. A fan should always, once in their lifetime, get to experience winning the big prize. Shoot, Red Sox fans have gotten to do it.
Big Blue View: Are you looking at this game as a sort of 'measuring stick' for the Saints? I know for the Giants this is without question the best team they have played, and the first 'real' game they have played in a month.
Canal Street Chronicles: Yes. Very much so. This game won't neccessarily determine the outcome of the season but it will give us a chance to see how good the Saints really are. Even if they lose, the way in which they lose will be telling. But a victory could give the team lots of confidence to take into the middle of the season.
Canal Street Chronicles: Prediction?
Big Blue View: Oh...that is soooo tough. I have to keep the faith, so I will say Giants, 31-30. I will say this, though, a loss here won't surprise -- or devastate me -- provided that the Giants show they are a top-flight team. Which I think they will.
Big Blue View: Prediction from you?
Canal Street Chronicles: I think it's going to be a great game and very close. Giants are a talented team but the Saints are at home and the Dome will be loud. Saints 27-24
0 recs |
126 comments
|
Email
Print
Comments
"...against the Giants..."?
Is this a prediction? We can hope…
Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston
by MtnExile on Oct 14, 2009 6:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not worried (well sorta...)
The quality of the Giants opponents definately inflated their stats, still a top tier team but i think the Saints have the slight edge. Our win against the Eagles i think was the most impressive, thats easily a undefeated team (if they didnt have to play us)
Only thing I REALLY hope is the winner is not decided by a BS penalty called by refs, in either direction. This is too quality a game to have zebra stripes decide it.
by Alex Saints on Oct 14, 2009 7:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
See
this is what I don’t get … knock the Giants for playing a weak schedule, laud the Saints for beating the Eagles, who have otherwise beaten the Pathers, Chiefs and Bucs. Where’s the logic in that? Then, if we somehow manage to beat the Giants … it’s going to be “OMG, we should be ranked atop the entire NFL!!!! We just beat one of the best teams in football over the past three years!!!!” Whoa, hang on there, Fan of 1,000 Faces. Did you not just go on and on about how the past doesn’t matter? About how the Giants hadn’t proven their worth prior to this game? Yet, all of a sudden, defeating them is some great accomplishment. Pardon me while I borrow a phrase from Dana Carvey’s Church Lady … “how conveeeeenient.” For the love of all that is good in Hypocrisy Valley, please stop playing both sides of that drum.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
I say the eagles are a quality team because theyre lookin good while beating these bad opponents, just like the g-men are doing. Im not knocking the Giants and yes i will think we will and should be ranked atop all the power rankings after we beat em…
IDK where you thought i said past doesnt matter…
And as far as Giants proving their worth this weekend will be just that
by Alex Saints on Oct 14, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t implying that you said that. Others have, though.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phil started Kolb
Add to that Phil was starting a QB in his first start, NO had played 3 teams with a QB with less than 3 games experience, Kolb, Stafford and Sanchez…… the other 1? Edwards
I think this is the first test for NO defense, they have played 3 rookies with less than 3 games experience and a QB who will not last the year. I think the NO D had done “OK” to get the intercepts and Sacks
by a hay on Oct 14, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
This will be the biggest challenge of the year yet for the Saints. And we should be in the mid 20’s by now in TO’s and sacks going up against a bunch of noobs like those chumps. Unacceptable.
"Brees will kill you, but he lets you decide how fast he tightens the garrote." -Chris Brown
by FuSoYa on Oct 15, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the NFL
Granted TB, KC, and Oakmess won’t send shivers up one’s spine, but the Gmen didn’t show any signs of a let down against these teams. They just went out and played Professional Football and looked very efficient and business like in doing their jobs. The NO game will be a bigger test but it won’t make or break our season. The Gmen lost to the “unbeatable” Pats in their last game of the ‘07 and then went on to beat them, and deny them an undefeated season in SB 42. The one advantage we have over you guys is we’ve been there before, you haven’t. This is virgin territory for the Saints.
by Low Country Giant on Oct 14, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget washington
that game was not as close as that score…
by wilddre22 on Oct 14, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Eagles haven’t exactly beaten any quality teams, but then they did a pretty good job of beating their inferiors like a drum. I consider that a mark of a fairly good team, and I think most others would agree with me.
I don’t know why you go off on past records that way. The past doesn’t matter this year but that does not mean the past doesn’t matter at all. There is a big difference between those two. Sloppy grammar on somebody else’s point doesn’t invalidate the fact that a previously good team rarely becomes a complete piece of crap over the offseason, and a horrible team usually gets at least a little better but rarely becomes a juggernaut over one offseason either.
A team that flops from 13-3 to 3-13 in one season or vice versa usually turns out to have something wrong with it in both years, often a very soft schedule in the year they do well and crappy coaching and/or injuries out the wazoo and possibly other factors derailing it in the bad year.
But at the same time, last years records mean exactly jack squat in one area only, and that is in who qualifies for the playoffs this year.
by FriarBob on Oct 14, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
I kinda agree with you…but aren’t you also saying that since the saints didn’t even make the playoffs and the giants were the number one seed last year that the saints have more to prove in this game? One of you other guys said this in their post. “If the saints lose, they’ll plummet to the bottom of the rankings, but if the giants lose they’ll probably still be in the top 5”. Well the reason for that is because, as far as rankings are concerned…the giants have proven themselves over a longer period of time.
by maculis on Oct 14, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, definitely.
Since the power rankings are a meaningless nod to the BCS style of gauging team quality in the NFL, historical success plays a large role in them. So, from that point, a win here would “mean” a lot more to the Saints, having only been a pretty good team about 9 times out of 43, than it would “mean” to NYG, having won a light truckload of Lombardi trophies and National Championships. But really, it will only mean that, if, in 2009, NYG and NO are the last two teams in the NFC, the NFC championship will be played at the winner of this game’s house. The argument is more whether the Saints or Giants have any apparent statistical advantage going in to this game, based on performance this season, and putting aside meaningless “meanings”. But yes, this game will “mean” a lot more to the Saints than to the Giants.
"Brees will kill you, but he lets you decide how fast he tightens the garrote." -Chris Brown
by FuSoYa on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well when you put it like that
while every aspect of the Giants come to play and smash their opponent every week (offense, defense, and SP). Drew Brees has pretty much been shut down. And before you guys start telling me about the power houses that shut him down (buff & NYJ) let’s be honest, they stink. The jets are more talk than anything else. That vaunted Jets D has a whopping 4 sacks on the season. FOUR SACKS! Drew had all day to throw and still couldn’t find the end zone…I’m sorry but watch out sunday. I’m telling you.
by maculis on Oct 14, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I wouldn’t call those games “Drew getting shut down.” More like Pierre Thomas having superstar performances and Drew completing a high percentage of passes for respectable yards. Just because the Saints game plan didnt include throwing 9 TD’s (like week 1 and 2, yes Drew is VERY capable of that) doesn’t mean that Drew Brees was “shut down.”
by Alex Saints on Oct 14, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it
you saints fans always change the facts around to fit your argument…Superstart performances? P. Thomas had like 5 yds in the first half of the Jets game (unless I’m mistaken) and did he even play in the first half of the bills game. Yes he had good numbers to end the game…but the saints went to him out of desperation, not to feed the “hot hand” Good try though. And just to be clear, what you’re saying is brees could have thrown TD passes, he just chose not to.
by maculis on Oct 14, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t play in the first half because he had the flu and was getting IV treatments on the sideline until he felt well enough to play.
And both him and Bell will be 100% this weekend playing a Giants D that hasn’t been great against much worse RB’s
by Alex Saints on Oct 14, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok...
so explain to me what you meant by
I wouldn’t call those games "Drew getting shut down." More like Pierre Thomas having superstar performances
if he wasn’t playing, why wasn’t Drew lighting it up? Those teams suck and you guys could’ve lost both games. if not for the 4th quater heroics of Thomas in Buf. and your D picking on a rookie QB vs the Jets. But don’t worry, big brother is coming to defend little brothers this Sunday
by maculis on Oct 14, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
where is this coming from ?
the one halfway decent team you played had four turnovers to allow you to win by a whopping two points. so dont give this bs about drew brees. did he throw three picks and add a fumble? no. eli has those days just like romo does.
what part of 27-7 and 24-10 makes you think we almost lost?
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 14, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was their superbowl
they played that game, in their new stadium, in front of the largest crowd in the history of the game (by the way, you’re never getting that turnout for a saints game), everyone there said (experts included) said it was at the very least a playoff atmosphere. so yeah, we beat them by only 2. I think that’s pretty good.
by maculis on Oct 14, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your telling me
your happy winning by two when you are +4 in turnovers? and no that was not the largest crowd to ever see a game. its so weird to see you defending dallas, thats the closest its going to get to playoff atmosphere in jerrys world for a while.
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 14, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was 16/20, thats 80% passing, Thats just solid QB play.
by Alex Saints on Oct 14, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was actually
16/29 passing…and that like 55%. But then again, we do math different up here
by maculis on Oct 14, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that
with your shoes on or off? JK
by N_O_1saintfan on Oct 15, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t disagree with you that we could easily be looking at a 2-2 record right now without a running game. I think our 7-9 and 8-8 records the last two seasons attest to that. How long are you going to state the obvious? Without a kicker, the ball would have never left the tee to start the Bills game and we’d still be 2-0. Golly heck, good thing that’s not the case.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Alex
have to explain what he meant by your statement? That could get murky.
"Brees will kill you, but he lets you decide how fast he tightens the garrote." -Chris Brown
by FuSoYa on Oct 14, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“I <3 murky.”
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it already is
I don’t even know who alex is or what comment you’re talking about.
by maculis on Oct 14, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I admire
your new slant on downplaying team success. The first half invalidates the second half, a running game produced by a team with a solid qb is desperation, even in the event of consistent success, your personal feelings about the Jets(as a Giants fan, no less) supercede the accomplishments of that team. I imagine you’re not worried about your team’s two games against Philly, as their defense is clearly bottom-rung. Of course, with McNabb at qb, their defense will be much more up to the task of playing the Football Giants
You’re a veritable Inspector Gadget of argument techniques.
"Brees will kill you, but he lets you decide how fast he tightens the garrote." -Chris Brown
by FuSoYa on Oct 14, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"a running game produced by a team with a solid qb is desperation, even in the event of consistent success"
Ah yes, those old school Hail Mary draw plays. They just don’t draw those up in the sand like they used to anymore.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew Brees is like our Bizarro Michael Vick!
Even in a 3TE, HB/FB set, opposing defenses must respect the pass. It’s the only way a unit this hapless could be doing well at all. I’m not sure if that was sarcastic or not…
"Brees will kill you, but he lets you decide how fast he tightens the garrote." -Chris Brown
by FuSoYa on Oct 14, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
why more teams don’t turn to the running game in times of deperation. I’m sure Marv Levy considered it against the Oilers back in 1993, until Frank Reich came in to replace a woefully inferior Jim Kelly. I can only imagine the sense of peace Warren Moon felt, seeing Thurman Thomas on the sidelines that day.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LSU borrowed a page from the saints playbook
two weeks ago and pulled off the first 2 min drill that featured a run game against UGA. it is catching on.
pizza, i see you added a woody hayes quote. i love that guy, he was the craziest bastard ever.
q from reporter: why did you go for two when you were up 40 points against michigan?
woody: because i couldnt go for three.
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 14, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woody was the man
I’d love to see a feature length movie made about him. You’d think if Bobby Knight got one (Season on the Brink), he could.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it weren't for punching that opposing player on the sideline, I'm sure Woody would have had his Hollywood tribute.
by WhoDat_OH on Oct 14, 2009 1:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
bobby knight choked a guy
was that before or after the movie?
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 14, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
before
Brian Dennehy’s performance was the only thing that movie really had going for it.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Dennehy
went to my high school
Wanna say something? Sign up! It's free!
by Saintsational on Oct 14, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure what you're saying
all I’m saying is, to my knowledge, you haven’t had both in the same game.
by maculis on Oct 14, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both what?
"Brees will kill you, but he lets you decide how fast he tightens the garrote." -Chris Brown
by FuSoYa on Oct 14, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about
the first two games?
"Brees will kill you, but he lets you decide how fast he tightens the garrote." -Chris Brown
by FuSoYa on Oct 15, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHO
Cares if we do or don’t. The end result we care about is the W or L at the end of the day.
by N_O_1saintfan on Oct 15, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're taking my comment out of context
you have to read the whole conversation. I was responding to someone saying the reason Brees’ stats weren’t good is because P. Thomas was having a superstar day. And I was showing him that that wasn’t the case.
by maculis on Oct 14, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you figure....
the Saints went to Thomas becasue they were desperate? They had the lead. And seriously, why would you go to a HB who has only 5 yards in the first half out of desperation? I don’t get that argument.
by jack_casse on Oct 14, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
why did they go the running game if it’s not producing and your QB is having a great day?
by maculis on Oct 14, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the passing wasn't working out...
so they went more to the running game, but it wasn’t cuz they were desperate. That’s what I don’t get. How can you be desperate if you are winning?
by jack_casse on Oct 15, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it seems to me...
They didn’t have much rushing production in the fist half because they wanted to get the passing game going. They came out the second half seeing the defense had sold out to stop the pass so they made a switch run it more. It worked.
by jack_casse on Oct 15, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not so much
that Brees was shut down versus the Bills and Jets, it’s more a case that the running game was clicking. I realize that may be a bit difficult for someone that doesn’t follow the team on a week-to-week basis to buy into, primarily because it’s not what you’re accustomed to over the past couple of seasons. Believe me, we’re not accustomed to it either. This is the first year since 2006 — our last successful one, I might add — that we’ve had some semblance of offensive balance out of the gates. It’s probably no coincidence that we’ve been dabbling damn near exclusively with a former Heisman Trophy winner in the interim, but I’ll save that venomous tangent for a darker day. Not unlike Marlon Brando’s dame Stella, we’ve got our groove back. Just saying, don’t let Drew’s numbers lull you to sleep, because you just might be in for a rude awakening on Sunday, when the alarm Bell (and/or Thomas) goes off.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok since you follow them
how many yds did your team have rushing in the first half of either game? since the running game was “clicking”
by maculis on Oct 14, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
nor do I understand what that matters. Both games were playing out to be defensive struggles, so we took the gravitated more towards the ground game down the stretch, in order to secure the victories through time of possession. Had the games been offensive shootouts, there’s no doubt in my mind Sean Payton would have reverted to his video game M.O. So yeah, I mean if you just want to look at 30 minutes of action, I guess you could say Brees and the entire Saints offense got “shut down”. No moreso than the Bills and Jets got “shut down” though. If we play the Giants even through two quarters, then take complete control in the second half, I don’t think too many Saints fans are going to have a problem with that.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw
I don’t personally agree with allowing your opponent to dictate the tempo of the game. If I had my druthers, the Saints would be a run-heavy team like the Giants of recent years. I’m just happy that we’re at least ATTEMPTING to establish a running game. That, in itself, is a refreshing change of pace.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the giants
are a run heavy team now. run on 1st, run on 2nd eli on 3rd and he still has better numbers than brees
by maculis on Oct 14, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Better?"
They have the same number of completions (although Brees has played in one fewer game).
Brees has a slightly higher completion percentage.
Brees has 9 TDs to 10 for Eli (who threw 2 last week). So, 9 to 8 if you eliminate the extra game.
They both have 2 INTs.
They’ve both fumbled three times, although the Giants lost two of those to 1 for Brees.
So, four total turnovers for Manning versus three for Brees. The game against Oakland isn’t a factor (Oakland, cause a turnover? ha!).
Eliminating the extra game against Oakland, Eli has 8 more yards than Drew.
Eli’s passer rating is slightly higher than Drew’s (111.7 to 108.4). But, frankly, I think passer rating is a worthless stat. I don’t need a stat to tell me Drew, Eli, Peyton, etc are good QBs.
Basically, the best you can say is that they have very comparable numbers, even after two slow games from Brees.
by vanatsfan on Oct 14, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
most vital facy
Eli (1 SB) Brees (0)
Just stirring, I love watching both
by a hay on Oct 14, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wanted to point out...
To Maculis, if you’ve been watching the Giants this season, they’ve been coming out pass first every game. They’re allowing Eli to set his own pace, and he’s been capping most drives off with scores. It’s not till later in games where we start to run the ball…and run the ball heavy.
If you noticed the Dallas game is the only game where E had over 300 yards, it’s because that’s the only game that was in jeopardy come the second half. (Although he would have gone over 300 @ KC, if he didn’t leave in the 4th, finishing with 292 yards).
Vanatsfan, the Raiders are horrible, but their pass defense is not. They have the best CB in the league in Nnamdi, and Chris Johnson could probably start on either of our teams today.
Eli threw for more TDs in less than a half than Phillip Rivers, Kyle Orton, Matt Schaub, and Matt Cassel did in their whole games.
And other than Eli and Orton, every other QB had thrown at least one pick against Oakland…so they can cause turnovers. If Oakland had a decent offense, and a half decent coach, they’d easily be .500.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 14, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you really bragging about torching the raiders
who cares? weve been there and done that
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 15, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How'd you get bragging out of that?
Pointing out that the Raiders pass defense isn’t anemic is hardly bragging. And I’m sure nobody here was pounding there chest after Drew threw 6 TDs against the worst team in NFL history.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 15, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one good cb does not make a good pass def. oakland sucks at all phases, which includes (but is not limited to) ownership, fans, stadium, players, coaching, drafting, free agency, close proximity to earthquakes, etc.
after the lions game i was pissed he didnt throw 7 (reggie had one called back).
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 15, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be down on the fans
The fact that they have fans, with this turd of a franchise is a testament to their love of/loyalty to their team.
"Brees will kill you, but he lets you decide how fast he tightens the garrote." -Chris Brown
by FuSoYa on Oct 15, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive never been there so i can only speculate
they always show the psychos on the first couple of rows with their halloween costumes on, other than that the stadium is empty. so are they good because they have a bunch of weirdos that spend hours putting on makeup, or are they horrible for not coming close to filling the stadium.
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 15, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a running play
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 15, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you sure?
i thought it was a screen
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 15, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we're
talking about the same play. It was in the final drive and the Saints were basically just killing the clock. Reggie happened to break one off right tackle, same type of play Bell had scored on earlier in the game from further out.
New Orleans Saints at 4:48
1-10-DET 44 (4:48) M.Bell right guard to DET 43 for 1 yard (L.Foote).
2-9-DET 43 (4:11) M.Bell left tackle to DET 28 for 15 yards (A.Henry). R26
1-10-DET 28 (3:30) M.Bell left tackle to DET 23 for 5 yards (J.Hunter).
2-5-DET 23 (2:46) M.Bell left guard to DET 14 for 9 yards (L.Foote). R27
1-10-DET 14 (2:03) R.Bush left end to DET 4 for 10 yards (A.Henry). R28
Two-Minute Warning
1-4-DET 4 (1:55) R.Bush right end for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty.
PENALTY on NO-D.Thomas, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at DET 4 – No Play.
1-14-DET 14 (1:50) R.Bush right end to DET 12 for 2 yards (J.Dizon, J.Hunter).
2-12-DET 12 (1:03) M.Bell right tackle to DET 14 for -2 yards (L.Cohen).
3-14-DET 14 (:21) M.Bell left end to DET 14 for no gain (M.Manuel, J.Dizon).
END OF GAME
That the one? The only reason it sticks out in my mind as a running play, is because I knew the NFL record was 7 TDs passing in a game and I was hoping for a screen pass myself at the time. When the play got called back, I thought Brees still might have a chance to tie it, but they played it mercifully.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 15, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
why Brees wasn’t kneeling the ball there at the end. Why were they running Bell? Seems like you’re just risking injury unnecessarily at that point.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 15, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that does sound familiar
i think i drink too much at the games.
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 15, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right there
That game for the Saints was like the Giants’ last three games. We were supposed to be able to put a weak team down, and we did. No real bragging rights, but all you can do is what you’re supposed to.
The ugly part is that we gave them 27 points. They aren’t as bad as they have been, but the Lions at the dome should not be the highest scoring opponent we’ve had. 17 of those points were laden with good excuses(we had a goal line strip and recovery called back, almost exactly like the Giants with Oakland), but they still put points up against us.
The Saints have been uglier in the dome than on the road so far. I hope that’s not a real trend, as I don’t think they can afford many mistakes or missed opportunities against the Giants.
"Brees will kill you, but he lets you decide how fast he tightens the garrote." -Chris Brown
by FuSoYa on Oct 15, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From looking at the play-by-plays, and doing some rough math:
89 in the Bills game (of 222 total)
54 in the Jets game (of 153 total)
The second half numbers were, of course, spectacular. But we were running the ball well in both games at the half.
by vanatsfan on Oct 14, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree with you. I’m not saying the past matters more than the present, or even as much as. It definitely matters to some extent, as no team has ever won a Super Bowl without a buttload of talent, just as no team has ever been completely stripped of that talent via retirements, free agency and the like overnight. All I’m saying is, be consistent with your arguments. If you don’t think a team has proven their mettle for such and such a reason, don’t completely disregard that reasoning after the fact, by patting yourself on the back for having overcome them. In your own words (not YOUR OWN, I’m speaking of anyone that does such), you’ve beaten a team that has proven little. Therefore you, in turn, have proven little.
I also think you hit the nail on the head in your third paragraph. In 2006, the Saints were playing a 4th place schedule, after finishing 3-13 the season prior. We all know what happened that year, as well as the following, when faced with a 1st place schedule. That all averages out to a mediocre team, one that overachieves and underachieves based on their level of competition. This season, we’re again playing a 4th place schedule. Should this early season success be expected? Are we going to walk away with the NFC South, only to come back down to earth next season?
It’s kind of hard to tell, when you look at it objectively. All I know is that I haven’t seen nearly the same level of inconsistency from the Giants under Tom Coughlin, as I have from the Saints under Sean Payton. That’s a credit to both he and the entire Giants organization. Obviously, that won’t amount to jack squat on Sunday, but it does bear both mentioning and a certain level of respect. The bottom line is, we’re not talking about a team that flops from 13-3 to 3-13. The Giants are ALWAYS (at least since 2005) in the thick of the playoff race. They’re one of the better teams in the NFL, year in and year out, that based on their coaching, personnel, schemes, etc, not so much on who their first four opponents were in each of those seasons. Which, in this year’s case, is a 1st place schedule. Still waiting for that first-to-worst dive you’re accustomed to seeing in the topsy turvy NFC South? I wouldn’t hold your breath.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4th place schedule
All the 4th place schedule gets you is 2 easier games, and the way the NFL has gone so topsy turvey this year, that may or may not work in your advantage. (Although the Saints do get Detroit and St. Louis so im not complaining.)
by Alex Saints on Oct 14, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Please refs no bad calls!
by Saints all the way! on Oct 14, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to CSC!!!
Wanna say something? Sign up! It's free!
by Saintsational on Oct 14, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
quality of the giants opponents?
sure, they played subpar teams, but let’s look at the saints. they played the lions (who went winless last year), the eagles (without mcnabb), the bills (who just aren’t very good), and an overrated jets team with a rookie qb and not many talented receivers. you will see this sunday that the giants are the best team in the nfl. the saints didn’t even make the playoffs last year and i have no reason to believe their first four games indicate they’re capable of beating the giants
by bmanley620 on Oct 15, 2009 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re Plantar Fascitis:
I am very familiar with this condition. Had a severe case years ago and was playing in a squash league and our team was in first place so I really wanted to keep playing. So, I had my ankle/arch taped up every 2-3 days and the taping job does an amazing result. Problem is that the condition needs rest. Ice, anti inflammatories, injections- they can all help temporarily. And the taping really, really will keep Eli going for the time being. But, I think Eli will either need to rest it sometime during the season or it will continue to be problematic and get worse. When he plants on that foot to throw, he puts a tremendous amount of pressure on that plantar ligament which is already inflamed. Not the best thing for someone trying to heal it up. He may do this 75-100 times a game day including warm-ups.
So, from my perspective I think the chance of Eli having a problem this game is low to middlin, but in the long run I think his chances of problems are considerable. The bye will help, but not sure if it’s enough time. Also, if he should turn that ankle which happens so easy, that would be a real setback for the plantar fascitis.
"Indecision may or may not be my biggest problem" - Jimmy Buffett
by Philinwood on Oct 14, 2009 8:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mmm squash.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Like the Format
I think this will be a very good test for both teams. I also agree, win or lose, we will learn what these teams are made of. Even though I have a pretty good idea. WHO DAT!!!!!!!
"He's going to have so many balls he might have to sell them back to Wilson when he retires,"
-Silky Powell, Saints equipment manager
by Ponysaints on Oct 14, 2009 8:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ive decided to start pregamin lsu style for this game
starting the boozing tonight, who dat
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 14, 2009 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good man
I gotta watch the game with 3 Giant fans so im gonna have to do the same
by Alex Saints on Oct 14, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I second that emotion
"Brees will kill you, but he lets you decide how fast he tightens the garrote." -Chris Brown
by FuSoYa on Oct 14, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dome is the only breaking point
Saints win a very rough game.
Chief Stalker/ Lead Paparazzi of the official Matty I Fan Club
Knowshon Moreno is actually the illegitimate chocolate son of Dan Marino. Its true!!! I have pictures!!!
by Farorefox on Oct 14, 2009 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two great teams will test their mettle
Big Blue fan visiting your site. First off, I’m impressed with the quality of this blog and the thoughtful debate in the comments. I’m a religious reader of the Giant counter-part “Big Blue View” and it’s good to see this site run with the same quality.
I can tell you that as much as I enjoy the Giants record I have not been enjoying the pummeling the Giants have handed their last 4 opponents. It felt a bit like preseason. I’m extremely excited to see how we do against a quality opponent like the Saints.
Regardless of our respective schedules to this point, I think it’s obvious that both of the teams have shown balance and poise. When the defense lapses slightly the offense picks them up and vice versa. But in all, there is no glaring holes in either team.
So I can tell you I wait for this game with “butterflies” for the first time since opening against the Cowboys. All we want as fans is to watch great football (and a title here and there). And finally after 4 long weeks I hope to see a great back and forth game on Sunday. And I agree with some posters, that while this game won’t define the season it will provide the first real barometer for both teams.
Cheers.
by edzilla on Oct 14, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Saints fan agreeing and rec'ing
I too have butterflies about this one. It should definitely be a great game between two very good teams.
"He has got a good ol' boy sense of humor, but he has also got a good ol' boy sense of kick you in the ass, too,"--Gregg Williams describing Bill Johnson. The D WILL ROCK THIS YEAR!
by satchmo26 on Oct 14, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good interview
I, too, like this form of interview. Thank you for bringing it to the fans. This will be a fun game to watch; this will be a close game, making it difficult to predict. Ultimately, the game will be won on the line of scrimmage; who can pressure these QBs best? I think Eli will have a great game and thrive at the Dome. Brees will need to bring his best game to keep the Giants “O” team off the field with long, sustained drives. If the Saints can pressure Eli and the “D” can manage 2 turnovers and Brees has a strong game, Saints win.
Saints 31, Giants 24
by Jubincali on Oct 14, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just curious...
How many Eli supporters do you guys think will be in attendance?
Is he kind of a big deal down there?
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 14, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's liked
I can tell you this…my friend from NY is flying down and I am taking him to the game. He will be wearing an Eli jersey.
Wanna say something? Sign up! It's free!
by Saintsational on Oct 14, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Almost
bought a t-shirt today that says ELI WHO?
by N_O_1saintfan on Oct 15, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a passing interest
in Eli. I wouldn’t guess he carries anywhere near the following that Peyton does. On top of which, the games are already sold out to season ticket holders, so it’s not like people are rushing out to buy singles, specifically to see such and such a player. So, it’s pretty much is what it is. Which is meh.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
most people in nola like him (minus hardcore LSU fans)
but they like saints victories more. i for one hope he has the worst day of his career.
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 14, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also i think the big deal thing is overhyped garbage from espn.
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 14, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No excuses please
Ok, I have to agree that this will be the best teams either team has played so far. I think the Saints will win, but if they dont I dont want to hear any excuses for them loosing. If they loose then they just loose. The main thing I do NOT want to hear is if the Saints win then I dont want to hear ANY excuses about Eli and his hurt foot. You know that is going to be their excuse and I just dont want to hear it. If he gets sacked then give credit to our Defense, dont blame it on a hurt foot! Go get them boys!!! Who Dat!?!?!?!
by Saints all the way! on Oct 14, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Obviously...
You’ve been dealing with Eagles and Jets fans for the early part of the season, so I won’t say these thoughts are unwarranted.
With Giants fans though, excuses are not something you’ll hear from us.
If you guys do beat us, all you’ll hear is the proverbial tip of the cap followed by “We’ll get you in January.”
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 14, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
early spread is Saints giving 3...
….which probably accounts for home field. Over/under is 47.5. I hope it’s well under that. Lower the score the better the Giants chances.
by edzilla on Oct 14, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy to Come over
As long as we get there
heard the home field thing from Tampa Bay, then Dallas, then Green Bay fans
by a hay on Oct 14, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are right
Seems like every team so far has had an excuse for why the Saints could beat them….I like a good ole fashion trash talk before the game…but afterwards there is a loser and a winner and I cant stand sore losers….
by Saints all the way! on Oct 14, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me...
When you’re in the same division as “America’s/God’s/Captain Planet’s Team” all you ever hear is excuses.
As a matter if fact I’d be willing to bet a substantial amount of money if you asked any random Cowboys fan how many teams have beaten them in the last two decades, they would claim no one, because the Cowboys only beat themselves.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 14, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
YES!!
Cowboys are the worst….
by Saints all the way! on Oct 14, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree and rec'd
I literally laughed out loud at your names for the Plano Cowgirls. Their fan base tends to implode quicker than any other I know of once they start losing.
Jets and Eagles not only made excuses for their own losses, they even went so far as ot do so for Buffalo and the Lions, too. I won’t make excuses for the Giants wins the past couple of seasons through now…this is the toughest game on our schedule IMHO. And knowing that you guys will likely be healthier in the playoffs doesn’t make me feel better about the possible future rematch.
by BlackandGold4ever on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My team's not
in the Cowboys division but I do live in their city and it is just painful to listen too. I couldn’t imagine being in their division. I would be in jail for fighting every season! LOL
"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." --Mike Tyson
by vicvega26 on Oct 15, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's annoying
that’s for sure. The best is how they still bitch about losing in the playoffs the year we won the Super Bowl, and say that they were the better team b/c they beat us twice in the regular season, and that should have been their Super Bowl. Cowboys fans are precious.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 15, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have a issue can any1 help
i am from new orleans and dont have direct tv does any1 know what channel that tha saints game will be broadcasting on in h town or wat radio station
by noliaboy on Oct 14, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hooters!!
I believe all Hooters have The Sunday Ticket and if you get there early enough you can get a table right in front of a TV and they’ll put it on the game for you. But this game against the Giants is going to be on Fox in most of the country. I’m sure it will be on in Houston.
"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." --Mike Tyson
by vicvega26 on Oct 15, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right about Hooters
I’ve been to them in 3 different cities and they always have all the games on. I definitely don’t utilize that place often enough…
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 15, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taco Mac is good but I think thats only an Eastern thing.
Chief Stalker/ Lead Paparazzi of the official Matty I Fan Club
Knowshon Moreno is actually the illegitimate chocolate son of Dan Marino. Its true!!! I have pictures!!!
by Farorefox on Oct 15, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eli's Homecoming
A visitor from Big Blue. I’m really looking forward to the game on Sunday since
we’ve been scrimmaging for the past 3 weeks. That’s actually allowed us to rest
those that are nicked up while giving some of the younger guys the gameday
experience that will pay off on down the road. Aaron Ross…who dat? (lol)
We’re actually going into this game being relatively healthy and there will be
NO excuses for Eli’s foot injury. You won’t hear it from him…
and you won’t get that from us.
The line of scrimmage in this game will be a war zone. Our blue collar O-line
has actually improved their pass protection schemes and Eli has developed
great vison on the field. The BEST thing that EVER happened to this offense
was losing that number 1 receiver! We love seeing Eli throwing to six different
receivers during a game and welcome seeing a defense that stacks 8 in the box.
My distorted opinion is that these offenses are pretty much equal. You guys score
more pts per game (36 vs 30 ), have a slight edge in rushing (165 vs 160) BUT
we have slight edges as well in the time of possession and passing yds per game.
So, what does that mean? Not a damn thing. (lol) Hey, I’ll even concede Special Teams to you guys while trying to look at the big picture.
The main difference between the Saints and Giants are the defenses. We like the way our D-Coord is dialing up the defense and feel that we can put a lot of pressure on
Brees without getting “blitz happy.” Turnovers and Time of Possession will dictate
the winner and I see this one as 21-17…Big Blue.
BTW…we have a fairly decent record of going into others “noisy houses…”
and sending them home just after they picked their nose. Just ask Jerry? (lol)
Peace Out and looking forward to a great game. You guy’s are OK!!!
by thunderstorms62 on Oct 14, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that was a great game
watching dallas lose is like watching a terrorist get kicked in the balls, it just feels right.
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 14, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think home field dome will be an advantage for y'all
but i don’t think it will be as big as you think. the past two years our road record actually is sick! don’t have the numbers off hand, but trust, it’s way over .500. and don’t forget our super bowl run we won like 11 in a row on the road, and in the playoffs.
by wilddre22 on Oct 14, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
*First of All*
congrats to Ed Valentine. You have a really great blog going for your Giants. Lots of good input by lots of knowledgable fans.
That being said, Sunday is going to be a test of two truely top notch teams who have had an extended practice schedule through the first weeks of the season. Now, the time has come to see which team has it together for 60 minutes of solid, error free professional football against a viable opponent.
It just appears to me (yeah, suprise) that the Saints are poised for something fantastic this weekend. All the pieces are in place, most of the boo-boos are healed, and they seem to be more hungry than at any other time in their history. Of course, much of the same can be said of the Giants. So, what will be the deciding factor?
The fans might very well decide the outcome of this game! Coaches want four solid quarters of 110% effort from their players. We should expect no less from the fans.
Who ’Dat Nation – SHOW UP LOUD, SHOW UP LONG, and while the team leaves everything on the field, LEAVE YOUR VOCAL CHORDS IN THE SUPERDOME!!!
(Time to go check my blood pressure.)
by Just 'Nother Day on Oct 14, 2009 8:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"LEAVE YOUR VOCAL CHORDS IN THE SUPERDOME!!!"
You heard the man. If I see any of you pansies scooting down the exit ramps with your throat intact, I’m whipping out the machete.
"Paralyze resistance with persistence" -Woody Hayes
by coldpizza on Oct 14, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another interesting tidbit for this game
these teams represent the cities that are the sites of the two biggest (American) tragedies of the 21st Century, and really of the past 60 years. I definitely had a lot of empathy for N.O. after Katrina after being so close to 9/11.
Also, having been to many of the biggest cities in the country (including N.O.), I can say without any reservation that they are the two greatest culinary cities in the US of A. I could never give up New York food permanently (living in DC is brutal), but if there’s one city that would make me think twice, it’s New Orleans. Can’t wait to make it back there just to pig out.
Anyway, should be a fantastic game, and after this week I’ll be rooting for you guys to have a strong season. Definitely don’t hate the Saints.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 14, 2009 10:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm from New Orleans
but now I live in Dallas. God I miss the food!! Dallas has good Mexican food and decent BBQ but compared to New Orleans it’s terrible! I’m going back home for this weekends game and I’m just as excited about the food as I am the game!!
"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." --Mike Tyson
by vicvega26 on Oct 15, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice tidbit......
That is an interesting though. Watched 9/11 happen live on TV spent the next few days with my stomach turning just thinking about it. I was in Metairie near NOLA when Katrina hit.
I’ve lived all over the world and missed the food from here every time I’ve been away. Nothing like it anywhere else.
I think the Giants will be the best team we’ve faced on both sides of the ball. Its going to be a tough win for either team but I have faith in this team to get the win no matter what it takes. I’ve waited a long time for the Saints to have a “complete” team that’s hitting on all cylinders and now we have it. I’m not going to try and guess the score. I just hope there are no injuries and the game is not won or lost over a bad ref call.
I’m a big fan of both Peyton and Eli as I was a big fan of Archie. I’ll be rooting for the Giants again when there not playing the Saints :)
Here's to a fresh Brees blowing in NOLA!!!
by ValientC on Oct 16, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fellow Giants fans, does the following sound familiar? lol:
Giants’ opponents fans before the game:
1) We have a great quarterback and alongwith the running game we cannot be stopped.
2) All this blah blah from Giants fans about all the road games and success and the continued momentum from the last two years is past history and has no bearing this year and this weeks game.
3) Giants cannot handle our crowd noise.
4) Our defense will shut the Giants and Eli will be in trouble.
Giants’ opponents’ fans after the game.:
1) Giants got some lucky breaks.
2) We had better stats than the Giants. The better team lost.
3) If it would not have been for …………(fill in the blank here)……. we could have beaten the Giants.
4) It’s okay we will beat the Giants in the playoffs as the road to the superbowl is through our stadium.
Well, fellow Giants fans I know most of you read this every week and laugh inside. I know I shake my head and laugh when I read that stuff.
Let’s go Giants.
by BB1156 on Oct 16, 2009 10:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We've heard it all this year too......
Starting with week 2 this year we’ve heard it every game.
1) We have the best Def in the NFL no one can score on us.
2) We have the only Def that can shut down Brees and the N.O. offense.
3) We will be able to score enough points to overcome the little we will allow.
and after the game comes a flood of excuses why the Saints were able to win. Most involving their team beat themselves and it had nothing to do with the fact that the Saints were even in the stadium.
Here's to a fresh Brees blowing in NOLA!!!
by ValientC on Oct 18, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all congrats to the Saints fans on their teams win over us. We Giants absolutely got beat and you will never hear excuses from me after we lose. Now about my post:
There was a reason I had addressed that to the Giants fans especially the ones that I have communicated with in the past who were posting here. This was to remind them about when I wrote this thing first and what has happened since then. I had written this in Jan 2008 after we had beaten Tampa Bay in the playoffs and we were headed to Dallas for the next round. All week leading into the Tampa Bay game we heard about the Tampa 2 and how good Garcia was who always beat us in playoffs. Then it was about Romo and Dallas defense. Then we had to put up with Green Bay people and their Favre and how cold it was there that time of the year and we would freeze and barely move. Then of course we had to listen to the non-stop talk of the undefeated Patriots and their record setting season and Brady. Then we heard all those kinds of things all of 2008 season. Then again this year. We are already hearing the cardinals who we play next (lol) and Eagles fans whom we play after the Cardinals. Anyway since I wrote that thing our regular and post-season record (including the game lost to the Saints this year) is 21 – 5.
Now, about this game. You guys were all over us and clobbered us. There is no doubt at all that you were the better team on the playing field. Despite the fact that a loss does hurt but I am glad that our ‘undeafted’ record for this year is over with. So far we have lost 1 game. We lost 3 games last year. Anything can happen in a year. I am hoping that since our bye week is later in the year we get to rest and heal well before the late and post season. I hope we don’t lose any more players to injury and ones that need to be healed do heal fast. We will need all that for the playoffs.
Same goes for you guys. You want to make sure you keep winning games (especially NFC games) to ensure a good seeding and homefield advantage in the playoffs with minimal injuries (if any) . Just like we Giants have been hearing this for over a year you will start to hear this more (my original post) as your success increases.
Good luck to you guys.
by BB1156 on Oct 20, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it still funny, BB?
;-)
Looks like this time those comments from the Giants opponents were pretty accurate.
Now I’m waiting to hear the GIANTS fans and their excuses, and how much the blame can be laid at the feet of the refs….
Irony: An atheist Saints fan.
by GSO Saints Fan on Oct 18, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your team beat the crap out of us and there is no excuse from this Giants fan. For decades we have been calling our team ‘hot and cold’ Giants. No matter how good you try and have a great season the teams (one is a fan of) will find ways to dissapoint us. (I am stating this in general terms now). At the end of the year there is only one team that remains standing.
I am glad that my team has seen success in some years (championships etc). But seriously the team is supposed to do that every year. But of course they don’t!!! So I have learned not to expect anything anymore. I just hope that our next blowout happens soon so that we can move on. You see, Giants get blown away at least twice a year (includes postseason). So, for now good thing is that we got blown away by a good team. It is far better to be beaten the hell out of by a good team than a bad team. We have just lost one game and it is not the end of the season fo me If we would have beaten you then it was just a game for me because who knows what will happen later.
As for your team: Just approach it one game at a time. You cannot control the schedule as it is fixed so you just have to focus on the next game and not anything else. Watch out for the division games. Those are a pain you know where. Never lookdown an opponent. Well, good luck and thanks for replying to my post. I replied to another person who commented to my post and feel free to read that too. If you re-reply to me then feel free to do so, just remember that it takes me a few days to respond becau of my very busy schedule.
by BB1156 on Oct 20, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saints fans. Congratulations on having a good team. Good job.
by BB1156 on Oct 16, 2009 11:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2009 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
