New Orleans Saints 46 @ Miami Dolphins 34: Post-Game Bullets
by Dave Cariello on Oct 26, 2009 10:15 AM CDT
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- Hard to believe this was the same offensive line that kept Drew Brees clean last week in the face of the NY Giants defensive line. The entire offense as a whole came out flat, making stupid mistakes and committing silly penalties.
- One athletic leap for a touchdown a great running back does not make. It's nice to have Reggie on the team to make spectacular plays like the one he made for six points but is it worth a lot of the negatives we've seen from him this year. He still dances and hesitates too much and unlike last year, his threat as a punt returner isn't saving his reputation. He looks horrendous back there.
- I think you've got to give credit to the Dolphins secondary. All week I had been hearing how weak they were as a unit but they looked pretty solid yesterday. If they really are that bad, this must have been their best game.
- Is it me or did it seem like players on both sides of the ball were missing easy catches?
- Sometimes I hate being right. During my interview with The Phinsider, I mentioned that the key for success against Drew Brees was to cause lots of disruption and have defenders keep their hands in the air. That's exactly what Miami did early in the game to get ahead. Fortunately, the Saints also have a running game.
- Courtney Roby looked much better in kick returns, particularly the 87-yard one. He still hasn't taken on all the way to the house yet.
- Given that John Carney missed a 50-yard field goal, is it time to start thinking about activating Garrett Hartley?
- I would like to personally thank Tony Sparano for calling a timeout right before Carney's field goal attempt at the end of the first half. It gave Drew Brees just enough time to talk Payton into going for it and played a crucial role in the Saints comeback. Thanks again.
- I will admit I think the Saints got the benefit of some questionable officiating. That being said, a replay booth malfunction? WTF? The Saints drive stays alive and the entire course of the game could have been different if that call gets overturned as it should.
- I hate to see Sedrick Ellis sidelined with a sprained knee but the defense seemed to look just as good, if not better, with Anthony Hargrove on the field full-time in place of Ellis. Remi Ayodele has already Wally Pipped Kendrick Clancy so it will be interesting to see if Hargrove pulls off a similar feat.
- Speaking of Hargrove, has anyone else noticed that his helmet looks different and futuristic?
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sorry
but i can’t agree with the Reggie comments. Yes he is not a power running but SP is not making him the focus of our offense like in the past. I think he’s done pretty good running through the gut with the little chances he’s gotten this year.
We need him on this team. He is a big part of our offense just like everyone else. the triple threat of our RBs are huge. Look at yesterday, PT did the pounding in the first half, Bell came in fresh in the second half against a tired defense and did great and then Reggie put the icing on the cake pretending to be Jordan. PT and Bell will wear them down and then Reggie will fly over them.
As for him and the punt returns, have you noticed that he has NO time to do anything. That’s not his fault. you can’t say he doesn’t look right back there when the other team is on him as soon as he catches the ball. The punters are doing a great job of not lettting him get the ball with tons of running room. They are kicking the ball towards the sidelines.
I’m so tired of the Reggie debate. I’m happy he’s on our team.
by touchdown my pants on Oct 26, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions
There is only one player on the team
with more TDs than Reggie, and that is Colston with 5. Reggie has 3, which is tied with a host of other players, including PT, Heath Evans, Shockey, and even Sharper. Isn’t points on the scoreboard what matters most of all? Granted I don’t think he is worth the money he is paid, but he is still a very valuable asset to the team.
Also
How many of the other TDs, especially passes off of play action, can be credited to Reggie’s decoy value? I can think of a couple in the Giants game
Sorry, but I can agree
Reggie is really nothing more than a diversion. He does virtually nothing now. His punt returning is atrocious since he has yet to run straight. He’s obviously lost a step since he can’t outrun anyone anymore. I’m tired of vouching for this guy. He doesn’t do anything well since he’s always making bonehead mistakes and he NEVER learns from them. He’s in his 4th year and so far he’s only gotten worse, admit it. He’s lost his explosiveness on punt returns, his timing with Drew always seems to be off, and he never seems to be totally into the game. He may say all the right things, and he may have done good things in the past, but in the NFL you have to say “What have you done for me LATELY?” And lately, Reggie has done nothing more than be invisible with an occasional decent play.
I also disagree with the Reggie comments.
That TD play was awesome and such a momentum builder. What defense wants to play against a guy who only gets a few touches, but at times seems to have Superhuman powers? What LB wants to cover a guy that can literally fake him out of his jockstrap and make him the laughing stock of Sports Center for a week? And as far as the Dolphins secondary, they pretty much had a good half which seemed mostly attributable to the DL’s pressure on Brees, but it appeared outside of one play our receivers had their way with them in the second half. I think Shockeys play where he was “swatting a fly” while gaining an extra 25 yards was indicative of our dominance. Some of our receivers were wide open for receptions. What play was the replay booth malfunction on?
"Indecision may or may not be my biggest problem" - Jimmy Buffett
Wow!!!
166 posts? Maybe it was all the drinkin’ cause I sure don’t recall posting that many times. Oh well, WHO DAT!
I've tasted the Kool-Aid and its damn good!
Saints had another road come-from-behind-win
in 2006 season against Green Bay in which they were down big very early on a couple of Brees’ turnovers, but wound up winning somthing like 41-34.
But I don’t think they were down three touchdowns in the last minute of the first half, and I don’t think the D bowed up like yesterday.
And I don’t think Brees dunked the ball over the goalpoast like yesterday. WHO DAT indeed!!!
Being a Saints fan will take years off your life
I'm still fuming about the instant replay gaffe
How huge was that? The Dolphins had the luxury of replay when they needed it right before the second half (on the colston catch near the goal line) but the Saints didn’t when they needed it. Thankfully, we pulled it out but I wish we were hearing more about this from the media.
Of course, I wonder why the NFL just doesn’t do like college does: get rid of the challenges (mostly) by making everything a booth replay and let there be a replay official who makes the calls upstairs, instead of having to hook up a special machine for the ref to look at on the field. How college can do it but the NFL with all those cameras can’t is beyond me.
I'm proud of my damn strong football team. Have a great day!
Mate the same comment
yesterday during the Steelers/Vikings game. College opts to not use challenges and review every play for the sake of making sure every play is called right and fair, and when a play is questionable play is stopped and the play fully reviewed to make sure it is right.
I don't agree
You want to take the ability to challenge out of the coach’s hands? With all the missed calls that seem to go against the Saints. I think the best thing that can be done is to have the replay both review a challenge and make a decision then forward that decision down to the head ref on the field. Leaving the replay ref on the field in charge of overturning a call made by his fellow refs who are on the field right next to him, sucks. Not many refs want to overturn their fellow ref’s call. A special ref in charge of that in the replay both who is not down on the field with the other refs would lessen the pressure of doing that.
What you said
is how the college system works. The booth reviews EVERY play, and when a questionable call happens they buzz the field and the head ref stops play, goes to the sideline and puts on a headset. The ref in the replay booth tells him the right call and the game proceeds. With every play reviewed by the booth there is really no need for a challenge from the coach. They seem to catch them quick too, faster than the hurry up. They already to it in the NFL, but only inside the two minute warning.
Actually....the Dolphins got screwed by that replay....
The official actually screwed us….not the replay.
If the official had called the play correctly, Colston down at the 1/2 yard line, there was no way your offense would have gotten down the field, lined up and snap the ball with I believe 5 seconds on the clock…. Time would have run out, and there would have been no bad Time Out call by our coach, and 24-3 would have been the halftime score.
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Wrong replay...
The first replay was for a pass that was ruled a completion for the dolphins and was obviously dropped.
"Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake." -- Napoleon Bonaparte
since the clock doesn’t start until the ball is set, the offense surely could have gotten set for a spike play. that happens all the time in the nfl.
I see what you got...Lets rock - Al Bundy
by knucklesmalone on Oct 26, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
ESPN blogs
You know what really chaps my A_S? I was reading the blogs on ESPN and everyone on there including the writer says things like The Dolphins “fell apart”, the Dolphins “let the Saints back in it”, Sparano “screwed up” calling the time out! What about the Saints? It pisses me off. Do they think that the Saints had nothing to do with coming back to win the game. I distinctively remember every Dolphin player in the game during the second half that was in there during the first. So if nobody went home at half time, and were playing to win in the second half as they obviously were in the first, any of them a__holes stop to think that possibly, just possibly the Saints actually just outplayed them in the second half to overcome and win. To my knowledge, no team goes into a football game with the game plan of only playing good in the first half and wanting to win in the first half and not the second; so obviously the Dolphins came out in the second wanting to win. Problem is seems like nobody thinks that the Saints came out in the second half wanting to win either. And furthermore, nobody thinks that the Saints’ desire to win, along with the fact that they are a very talented team, had anything to do with the end result. I guess it just seems easier to say that the Dolphins screwed up rather than admit that the Saints are a damn good team and capable of overcoming a poor first half showing and a 21 point deficit to rally to victory. That’s what championship teams do but I guess no one wants to admit that the Saints actually have the potential to be a championship caliber team or heaven forbid admit that they actually are as we all feel. I just can’t get over how week in and week out, people always find some way to minimize the Saints’ talent and play by saying our opponents screwed up or our opponents let them win, or bad coaching decisions, or the refs blew calls, or any other sh_t like that. I watched that game yesterday with a heavy heart; at the half feeling so disappointed and hurt then at the end feeling so proud and happy. How dare they try to take that away from me by saying that the Dolphins found a way to blow it and let the Saints win.
calm down
i hate to disagree with a fellow saints fan but the dolphins did flop and let the saints back in it. granted the saints are an explosive team but no professional sports team should ever blow a lead that big. if the dolphins would have played average football in the second half it wouldn’t have mattered how good the saints were playing they would have one. the saints have heart and made a game of it but you can’t say that the dolphins didn’t help more than a little.
plus it would be boring for the rest of the football world if all the national media talked about how awesome the saints were.
I see what you got...Lets rock - Al Bundy
by knucklesmalone on Oct 26, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not saying....
that the Dolphins didn’t make mistakes in the second half that the Saints capitalized on. But, I am saying that credit should go more to the Saints for the outcome and not the Dolphins. I haven’t found a blog yet that mostly gives credit where credit is due. They credit the Dolphins for the Saints win. It’s just irritating is all. Some of those mistakes could be attributed to the Saints couldn’t they. The D forcing bad decisions or mistakes?
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"We're not going to lay down because they're the almighty New Orleans Saints."-Akin Ayodele
If Reggie is "just a diversion now and does nothing"
how come ESPN is like showing that replay like it’s a Geico commercial, over and over again and alluding to how important a play it was???
"Indecision may or may not be my biggest problem" - Jimmy Buffett
I like him on this team..
Reggie may be a bit indecisive at times which lord knows frustrates even the most die hard fan but he does find a way at times to do the impossible. He is very talented indeed which makes it even harder to watch him at times because he is better than he has shown this year. We do however catch glimpses of that special talent and athleticism each week. Inconsistent play is just frustrating but again he is human like we all are and no matter how talented a person may be, that person WILL make mistakes just like each and every one of us do. I only hope that he understands that we only want him to do his best for us and this team and understands that frustration doesn’t only stop with him being frustrated in himself but also bleeds over to frustration for the fans and our frustration not about him but for him. We know he wants to do better and I can honestly say I wouldn’t want him anywhere but in New Orleans.
Regarding that replay malfunction...
Did anyone notice where those ’72 Dolphins team members were hanging out?
I could have sworn I saw Shula and Mercury Morris stalking down the sideline with an un-plugged extension cord trailing behind them.
Only going to talk about
Reggie and his punt returns. Someone said that he gets no time when he catches the ball. They’re right. Reggie catches the ball and would only get 3-5 yards if he ran forward everytime b/c he’d get hit so soon. He got like 6 yards after juking 3 ppl. 3 ppl are already past him and he’s still getting 2-3 more guys all over him. That’s a joke for returning punts. It’s ridiculous.
OK, so i lied, i now want to talk about special teams in general. Can we plz retire Carney now? 2 missed PATs in the past 2 games. Why is Hartley sitting? He was 13/13 last year for crying out loud! Roby looked good on the one KO return and should’ve had a TD but I jinxed him and i’m sorry. As soon as he got the the blockers I was getting excited and saying he’s going to go all the way and I told my friend he’d never had a TD returned for a TD then BAM! The guy catches up to him and shoelace tackles him. I’d like to apologize to Roby for messing that up. I’d still like to get rid of him. If they want Bush to be used more, put him on KO returns too. I think he’d dance less on the return since he’d get a running start at it. Even someone besides him is ok with me. How bout the Special teams coverage unit? They look weak! Easily the worst part of our team is special teams in coverage.
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Reggie-bashing?
OK, Ill admit that Bush has not been great this year – in fact he has had a couple of flat out bad games. That being said, the amount of bile being spewed in his direction has gotten a little out of hand. If you read the game thread from yesterday you would have thought that in addition to dancing too much, Bush was responsible for global warming and had personally approved the Army corp’s levee plans. It was almost enough for me to turn it off. At one point, Bush caught a punt and was IMMEDIATELY hit. Cue the bitching. Eight comments letting him have it (I went back and counted to be sure). Seriously? I’m ok with ripping him if he’s not playing well, but can cut him any slack at all?
Enough Already
I do not know who was on the field for the first 25 minutes of the game… It was a surrogate team of some sort but the Saints finally arrived with about 5 minutes left in the second quarter….. Yeah, maybe the Fins did screw up a little bit but the real truth is that the Saints are so good that they only needed one half to win the game. When they are “on” their game they are unbeatable….Think about it. They got their Sh*t together and in no time flat went from being dominated to dominant.. Thats what the national bloggers fail to realize. That ought to scare the crap out of anyone that still has to play us. I worry that some chump team catches us flat and steals a win.. no matter, this is our time, our destiny….Who Dat!!!!
Reggie Bush
is the best blocking back on this team, and it’s not really even close. That’s why we’ll always see him there on 3rd downs. Bree’s last fumble was because Pierre Thomas whiffed on a block, and at least 2 other sacks were because Pierre missed his guy. I just found it interesting that everyone remembers one missed block on Reggie’s part and there’s no peep of the multitude of blocks the other backs missed.
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"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
2 Things:
1) PT had a miserable game, pretty much from start to finish. There, I said it. I’m pretty sure I’m not the first, but there it is anyway.
2) Reggie is(or was) the best blocking back, and that’s been the only “best at” claim he could make this season, which makes his failures at that stand out more.
PT, like Bell, is undrafted, and both have had stellar days which help calm my woes about the bad ones. Reggie has not had what I would call a good day this year. The high expectations or disparity of comparisons may seem unfair to you, but they don’t to me. That said, he’s a high profile member of our team, he seems like a good guy, and he gets points, so bully for us and him. I just don’t think a little consistency is too much to ask.
"We're not going to lay down because they're the almighty New Orleans Saints."-Akin Ayodele
Officiating
“I will admit I think the Saints got the benefit of some questionable officiating.”
Not true. The Colston play was so ridiculously close that it was going to be reviewed regardless of the call on the field.
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