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well, just because a photographer caught that shot
doesn’t mean they had a TV angle that showed conclusive evidence of squat…or diddly poo
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray
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…hey, there are missed calls all the time, and on that one at least the Dolphins got the benefit of the replay equipment actually working, unlike the Bess non-catch in the first drive for the Dolphins.
If the TV cameras would have had that angle, then the TD would have been taken away. Big whoop., Check out where he is, the ball is about to go out at the 1 yard line, so instead of a TD right there, you’ve given the Saints offense the ball, first and goal, at the 1. Anyone doubt that was a TD for the Saints within the next 30 seconds of playing time?
:-)
It’s part of the game, we’ve been screwed by bad calls and missed calls throughout our history, so the ‘Phins fans can suck it up and deal with it being their turn on this one. Besides, since the Saints won by 12, removing it completely wouldn’t have changed the outcome anyhow.
Irony: An atheist Saints fan.
actually, if a team fumbles the ball out of an end zone they're trying to score in, it's a touchback and the ball goes to the other team
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray
by Hans Petersen on Oct 30, 2009 6:42 AM CDT up reply actions
But did the ball go out in the end zone?
That’s something that this angle doesn’t show.
One way or another, it was a bad call. The game was filled with bad calls and bad non-calls (Jake Long, I’m looking at you). Every game has lousy officiating nowadays. Like GSO says: deal with it.
Take away this score and the Saints still win.
Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston
As Mtn points out...
…that angle only shows the ball being fumbled, not WHERE it goes out of bounds. In that instance, the officials would have to mark it at the point of the fumble, unless other evidence showing it going out of bounds is found/seen.
However, since none of the replay angles showed either the fumble clearly, nor where it went out of bounds during the game, the call must, BY RULE stand as called on the field.
It happens both ways about equally from what I’ve seen, and again, I don’t think it would have changed the outcome – at that point the Saints had gotten on the bus and were in the process of running all over the dorado fish.
Wouldn’t have changed the outcome anymore than the Bess catch/non-catch in the first quarter.
Suck it up and move on.
Irony: An atheist Saints fan.
by GSO Saints Fan on Oct 30, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I am pretty sure
the fact that the ball went out of bounds in the endzone was pretty evident on the video. They just couldn’t prove where he fumbled it to even get to that point.
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by Dave Cariello on Oct 30, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
And I just bring this point up to highlight what was being discussed as the play was being reviewed
As relevant aspect of what could be decided by the review. But I agree the angles all proved inconclusive, and I think we’d have rolled and grinded anyway…
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray
by Hans Petersen on Oct 30, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s correct. Also realize that only ONE aspect of a particular play can be challenged. In this particular case, the Dolphins elected to challenge whether runner (Sharper) broke the plane of the goal line before fumbling, NOT whether or not he fumbled. Not that it made much difference in hindsight, as they didn’t have a camera angle conclusive enough to overturn the TD call made on the field. What WOULD have made a difference, though (albeit a slight one), is if the Dolphins had merely challenged whether or not he had fumbled, as the call on the field wasn’t either a touchback or out of bounds on the one. In this case, the TD call still wouldn’t have been overturned, but the Dolphins would have technically won the challenge (as the ball clearly DID come loose at some point) and would NOT have been charged a timeout.
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