Just another thought

by asaint on Oct 3, 2009 11:51 AM CDT Comment 7 comments

I was thinking about the success the running game was having, and I was wondering how much the passing game is opening up the run game. Did we run so well against Buffalo in the 2nd half because they kept bringing the pressure they brought in the 1st half, that worked so well at ultimately holding Drew to no TD's? It almost seems the polar opposite of play-action pass (Except the aren't technically draw plays, anyway) I'm wondering if we end up losing because we come out and try to establish the run first? I'm anxious to see if we come out in the traditional passer friendly mode to let them start bringing the pressure. Thoughts?

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Good Point, ASAINT - I think we always start

with hoping Brees can establish a good drive with passing first, and then sprinkle in the run.

I think I have stated this before, but we are a team that passes to set up the run, just as you say above.

I also think one of Payton’s great strengths is using our guys and their skills to exploit whatever weaknesses he sees in opposing defenses, which will change week to week, based on our opponents. If it’s early long balls and downfield passes that could work, Payton will do that. If it’s delayed screen passes and/or draws to counter a pressure defense, then he’ll do that.

I just can’t wait for this game to start!!

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by HansDat on Oct 3, 2009 11:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes.

And it also will be important to see what kind of pressure they bring and how we respond to it. If they can jam our receivers, pressure/rattle Brees, and our running game goes nowhere, it will be a looooong afternoon.

But on the other hand, if we score big early and shut them down on offense, they’ll be the ones enduring the long afternoon.

IT’S GO TIME BABY!!

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by HansDat on Oct 3, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The run game was working fine in the first half

I just reviewed the play-by-play of the Buffalo game, and the running game was working just fine against the Bills in the first half – 80 yards on 14 carries = 5.7 ypc, including Hamilton’s 1 yard TD. The running game exploded in the second half, but I think that was due to Pierre as much as anything. I think Saints were able to run pretty much whenever they wanted, and just did more of it with fresh legs in the second half.

As for the Jets, I think the way to exploit that pass rush is a lot of short yardage routes. Stretch the secondary with 1 or 2 deep routes and have 2 or more guys underneath. It could be a lot of Shockey and Bush, but Colston is great on those crossing routes too. Of course, that’s Moore’s bread and butter, but I’m not sure he’ll get a lot of snaps tomorrow.

by HB-NOLA on Oct 3, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wow 5.7.

I hadn’t realized that. I knew Reggie had a few solid runs in the first half, but I didn’t realize we were doing that. Makes me feel better about this Sunday.

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by asaint on Oct 3, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So far,so good

the first off. play of each gm. has been a brees pass.

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Oct 3, 2009 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Start with the pass

while incorporating the run into our gameplan. That’s what I have felt like we’ve done in the first drives of our previous games. We want to pass with a bit of running to keep them from just playing the pass. If we score on the first drive, expect a bit more of an even play calling.

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Oct 3, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Payton seems to be having his best year so far

in regards to play calling and game time decisions. I think he made some huge errors in the past few years, even in 2006, but worse in 07 and 08. But, he seems to be “in the zone” so far this year and this has helped the team immensely. I think keeping a core (large core) of offensive players together for several years helps him know what
plays to call and I would bet they all have some input to various degrees during the week about little tweaks on certain offensive plays and formations.

I hope Payton continues to have it together. I expect some gadget play today and I hope it works. Payton can’t stay away from the gadget and surprise plays forever!!

"Indecision may or may not be my biggest problem" - Jimmy Buffet

by Philinwood on Oct 4, 2009 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs