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Tony Gonzalez is Scary

 

Facing the Falcons on Monday night will present another challenge for the overwhelmingly successful story that is the New Orleans Saints defense this season. Believe it or not, though, I'm not that worried about Michael Turner, Roddy White or Matt Ryan. Why? Dolphins game aside, the Saints are actually very good against the run. Sure, Ellis being out concerns me but Kendrick Clancy isn't a slouch at stopping the run and he'll make his return to the lineup this week. I'm sure Turner will have his share of successes but I don't see him being the difference in this game.

I believe the Saints will get pressure on Ryan, either with their four man front or more likely when Gregg Williams dials up his complex blitz packages to confuse the young quarterback. The Cowboys were very successful at doing that a week ago. I believe the Greer, Porter and/or Sharper combination will cover Roddy White and limit his effectiveness. They've been so fantastic all season-long, there is no reason to believe that White will turn in anything better than an adequate performance. So that leaves Tony Gonzalez, and I'm actually not sure what the Saints have planned for him.

Falcons vs Saints coverage

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The way I see it, the possible players that will draw Gonzalez as a coverage assignment depending on the down and distance are: Scott Shanle, Jonathan Vilma, Roman Harper and Randall Gay. The first three players listed will be covering Gonzalez more so than Gay. I can see Gay picking up Gonzalez on 3rd and long plays but for the most part that will be an anomoly. That matchup, by the way, is a mediocre one given Gonzalez' size and athleticism compared to Gay's size. I do like Gay's physicality for his size, his coverage skills and his speed so hopefully he can hold his own when he has to cover the big tight end. But let's look at the more frequent matchups on passing plays:

 

Gonzalez vs. Shanle:

Shanle has very sound technique and is very good in coverage for the most part. He's physical, strong and intelligent but he's a little stiff and his range is somewhat limited. Gonzalez runs well for his size and he's so athletic he'll beat Shanle to almost any well thrown ball. Shanle is probably most exposed on routes over the middle and routes down the field with no safety help.

Gonzalez vs. Vilma:

The part that really bothers me about this matchup is that it will take away from Vilma's effectiveness against the run. As we saw last week against the Dolphins, Miami was completely shut down in the second half thanks to Vilma's tackling and pursuit. Like Shanle, Vilma is good in coverage and has size and aggression but he's also got a little more speed and athleticism. That said, the athleticism still doesn't compare to Gonzalez and with a running back like Michael Turner, it's extremely dangerous to potentially distract your best weapon against the run by sticking him on a dangerous tight end. 

Gonzalez vs. Harper:

Harper is probably the weakest pass defender of all the defensive backs on the team but he's without question the best tackler and the most physical. His awareness with the ball in the air can be poor so Gonzalez could take advantage of that having some of the best awareness of anyone in the NFL at his position. Harper, for his size, can still stay physical with Gonzalez but the Saints could be in big trouble on plays where Gonzalez makes a play on the ball and breaks Harper's tackle.

In all three scenarios the Saints are potentially exposed to getting beat, whether it's Gonzalez doing the dirty work himself or opening things up for the other playmakers on his team.

Consider the tight ends the Saints have faced so far this season:

Week 1: Casey FitzSimmons

Week 2: Brent Celek, who by the way had a monster game.

Week 3: Derek Fine

Week 4: Ben Hartsock

Week 6: Anthony Fasano

None of these guys are Tony Gonzalez caliber players and frankly none of them are even remotely close. The only tight end of this group that's of any dangerous ability in the passing game is Celek and he posted over 100 yards receiving against the Saints. You get the idea. Gonzalez is scary and he's going to be the biggest problem for the Saints come Monday night when their defense hits the field. The Saints have yet to face someone of Gonzalez' ability and there's no clear cut way they're going to stop him without leaving themselves vulnerable in other areas.

Do you think the combination of Shanle, Vilma, Harper and Gay can slow Gonzalez down at all? Give us your prediction on Tony Gonzalez' final statline for the game.

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Good analysis!!!

I’m thinking they will use a combination of zone for the inside area of the field where the linebackers are and man on the outside. They could also use a form of the nickel on passing downs where some extra pass defender comes in
and either covers Gonzalez or takes someone elses spot such as Harper or Shanle and frees him up to cover Gonzalez. That could be Jenkins coming in off the bench or Young, but I guess Gay could come in and free up a CB to cover Gonzalez. I think I would prefer Jenkins to come in and play safety and Harper cover Gonzalez or visa versa.

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by Philinwood on Oct 31, 2009 7:11 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd go with Malcolm Jenkins

He’s raw, but he matches up best physically and has already shown he can cover pretty well. I think he’s a much better option than Gay.

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by Hooahsaint on Oct 31, 2009 7:34 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

exactly what i

was going to say. Gonzalez is a great pass catching TE but a strong CB like Jenkins would match up well on him probably b/c he could make the tackle consistently along with staying with Gonzalez and making plays on the ball for interceptions, deflections, etc. I think he’s our best bet

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by skinnykinney on Oct 31, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jenkins?

You really think Jenkins has proved enough in the three or four games hes played special teams to cover Tony freakin’ Gonzalez.

I don’t.

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by Dave Cariello on Oct 31, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't worry about it

The Saints D has faced a TE at tonys calibur.His name is Jermy Shockey,they coved him the whole off season.I think their ready for anything Tonys does and it real hard to find him when you got guys in ur face within 2.6 sec like the Saints are Tony get 123 yards no TDS

by darshiva420 on Oct 31, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

With all due respect

Jeremy Shockey is not Tony Gonzalez. He’s a very good tight end, yes, but Gonzo is an easy Hall of Famer when he retires.

That said, I think White will have a better game than Gonzo. Just a hunch.

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by Dave Choate on Oct 31, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dave, “Gonzo” is very very good, and he probably is a Hall of Famer. But not because he was so great. Or is. It’s because he was so very very good on such a horrible team. A team that was flat putrid and had essentially one receiving option and a very good RB. That’s why he’s going to the HoF. His QBs were horrible and couldn’t throw a pretty spiral to save their lives yet he still got his catches even when the defense KNEW he was going to get the ball. He’s probably still mostly capable of that kind of production but he’s definitely on the downside. Maybe his decline isn’t (very) noticeable yet but he is getting to the age where it is at least starting.

But the same can be said about Shockey, perhaps not quite as strongly but still the same basic idea. For awhile he was one of very few good receiving options (not only, true, but still few) and he had a good RB to work with… and that was all the Giants had as well. And they had a QB who couldn’t pass a clean ball to save his life. Same as the Chiefs there too. True that’s not Eli anymore but it was him then.

Its not that Shockey is better than Gonzo. He’s not. But it’s not that Gonzo is that much better than Shockey either. You’re a homer, and that makes you want to pretend he is, but it’s just not true.

by FriarBob on Nov 1, 2009 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough

And I’m not arguing that he’s really better right now. The gap is pretty small at this point. I’m just saying that right now, given his numbers, Gonzo is pretty much a shoo-in for the Hall of Fame. Shockey could get there, yes, but not yet.

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by Dave Choate on Nov 1, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah from that perspective, I think I do too.

by FriarBob on Nov 2, 2009 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

nice analysis!

TG should have a decent game. Hopefully that’s the only Falcon who has a chance of that. I think if our D plays with their good intensity we’ll have no problems. As usual, it’s going to come down to the individual battles, as you alluded to in your analysis.

by xen-cuts on Oct 31, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

A very good point.

That’s one of the big pluses for the Saints D. They face the best offense and one of the best TE in the game every week in practice. I’m sure Greg Williams is going to pay special attention to Gonzalez. TG is going to get his catches. But they can’t go to him very time. Our D is going to take care of business.I don’t think Tg will crack 100 yds. but he will probably score once. That’s my prediction and I’m sticking to it.

by SaintShark on Oct 31, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Celek

dont blow his 104 yards out of the water. Dude had 79 yards in the 4th quarter when the game was well in hand an everybody knows we were in prevent mode. Its true we haven’t faced a TE with Tony’s talents but its not like the Saints have been blown up by some no name scrub

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by knucklesmalone on Oct 31, 2009 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

At the end of the day...

If we shut down all their other weapons, as you say, are you really scared by last man standing… please….

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by bondcrash on Oct 31, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

we can deaL

regardless of how ineffective turner has been, ATL is sill a running team, and as such our safeties will be playing a lot closer to the LOS than we would for a team like Philly, who is a pass first team. if we zone this up a good bit, than gonzo will be trapped running through a lot of defenders, and if we allow 42 the chance to move in on the mid level gonzo routes, its going to be a very favorable match up.

all of this depends on our CBs ability to cover on the outside (witch they have done spectacularly so far), and our front fours ability to get pressure without having to bring the house. whenever you bring a lot of backers or safeties, the mid field is very open, and gonzo is not a man you want to leave in space with room.

our backers cover the mid field very well, as long as we can hold gonzo to seams, and more deep routes, i think we will be fine.

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by Silo10 on Oct 31, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Gotta reduce YAC

The best games TG has had are when he gets alot of yards after catch/contact. If the D plays like they have all year and flows to the ball and punishes him, I think we’ll be fine. Let’s face it TG isn’t a young man any more. He hasn’t been hit hard consistently yet this year. Punish punish punish.

by WhoDat_OH on Oct 31, 2009 1:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Exactly

There’s been ALOT of shoddy tackling in the NFL this year. That’s another thing that makes this defense so good – fundamentals.

by WhoDat_OH on Oct 31, 2009 4:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's all relative

Compared to bad defenses like CLE TB or KC who do it consistently, it’s been a play here or there. Just look at the Dallas KC game where everyone raved about Austin. ALL of his big plays came from bad missed tackles. Much like he got vs. Atlanta last week.

Where GW’s D makes up for a missed tackle is that there is normally two or three others running to the ball to get their hits in. Very seldom is there a solo tackle, unless it’s in the open field.

by WhoDat_OH on Oct 31, 2009 9:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Shockey is every bit as good as Gonzo

I truely believe it. Gonzo is great and will have a good game, may even may a few yards, under 100. But I belive we will be ready to stop him from the end zone.

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by bearsaint on Oct 31, 2009 6:56 PM CDT reply actions  

i was....

scared a lot more by that wildcat…
this team really doesn’t keep things consistant enough to make me scared, people have ripped them apart, i don’t see why we can’t…

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by doublewide on Nov 1, 2009 4:10 PM CST reply actions  

Nice breakdown.

Teams have been trying to figure out the best wat to cover TG for 12 years now.

Problem is, he is always open, even if double covered by 2 good DBs or LBs. That’s because he trains to catch the ball in traffic.

Think of Gonzo’s basketball background. He approaches football the same way. Gonzalez is always positioning as if for a rebound, using his strength to gain an edge on defenders, and then using his height and skill to duel for the “rebound” or pass.

Tony’s training regimen is beyond what any other NFL player does. He catches hundreds of passes daily, even in the off season. His food intake is also strictly controlled and he only consumes the healthiest foods of high nutrition.

Tony is already in the top ten of all time receivers, and I’m not comparing him to tight ends. The impressive part is he gets better every year.

by WarWolf on Nov 2, 2009 6:20 PM CST reply actions  

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