NY Jets 10 @ New Orleans Saints 24: The View from Section 140
That perception of destiny just won't go away. This feels like 2006 on steroids.
The Saints victory of the Jets yesterday wasn't the prettiest game we've seen the Saints play by any means but like last week, it proved that these guys are not one dimensional and can win however they need to. This does not have to be the Drew Brees show. Last week against the Bills we found out this defense is good enough to keep the Saints in games. Yesterday, we learned they can flat out win them.
So revel in the perfection and the knowledge that your Saints are among the NFL's elite. After the bye week, the real fun starts.
Make the jump for my observations, talking points and photos from yesterday's victory. Then discuss.
Let's go to the bullets:
- There was a very healthy dose of Jets fans in the city for the game. I was very surprised to see how well they traveled. Admittedly, every one of them that I met was friendly.
- I'm pretty sure the Saints broke their streak this season of scoring a touchdown on their opening drive when they settled for a field goal.
- Give credit to the Jets defense. They stymied Sean Payton and the offense for the entire game. It was the Saints defense that won this game. I can't believe I just said that.
- I had high hopes that this would be the season that Reggie Bush would finally win everyone over and the divisiveness would end but it's becoming apparent that will never happen. Ever. People are fed up with him and I certainly understand, though I don't necessarily agree. Personally, I thought Reggie looked good running the ball today. But, of course, he also had to fumble the ball at an inopportune time and almost caused the game to slip away. The grumblings continue.
- Heath Evans is freakin' athletic for a dude his size. He made a great one-handed catch on a low thrown ball and managed to turn around and run a bit. Karney who?
- Charles Grant and Will Smith are quietly becoming the leagues best pass rushing tandem. And that's good because they're getting paid as such. Seriously though, two sacks for each of them yesterday. With four sacks on the season, Grant has already surpassed his production from last year and Will Smith has tied his three-sack total from 2008.
- Did you catch that block by Brees on Reggie's big run? You don't need to prove anything to us, Drew.
- Darren Sharper's first interception and subsequent run back completely changed the momentum of the game. After Reggie fumbled and the Jets were threatening in the second half, Sharper again took over the game and assured victory with another pick. I think it's official: Other than Gregg Williams, Sharper was the biggest off-season acquisition of the year. I still think Jabari Greer is underrated but Sharper is changing/winning games.
- The Saints secondary as a whole looked very great yesterday. Jabari Greer made more than a couple of great pass breakups, including a key one on third down. Tracy Porter made some big hits on the receiver after the catch. Not to be overshadowed by Darren Sharper, I think Roman Harper has been playing inspired as well. He is making plays I don't remember seeing him make last season. In fact, the safety position could possibly be the most noticeably improved unit. Even the inconsistent Randall Gay had a key pass breakup and game-ending interception. A complete turnaround and it won the Saints the game.
- No one receiver played particularly amazing, racked up huge yardage or even scored a touchdown for that matter. But they each made a big catch or two when they needed.
- Probably the one negative from this game was the eerily familiar short yardage suckage on fourth down. It felt like I had stepped into a time machine and was magically whisked back to 2008. Fortunately, it wasn't detrimental to the outcome of the game but the number one offense shouldn't need four downs to put it in the end zone from the two-yard line.
- The offensive line may be slightly at fault for some of the short yardage crap, but I think they played pretty well. The talk before this game was about Rex Ryan and the attack-heavy blitz the Jets would employ but Brees has pretty much all day out there.
- Thomas Morstead looked sick on kickoffs, forcing returners to take a knee in the endzone repeatedly. I believe he shanked one of his punts, however.
- Good way to go into a bye week. Hate to lose this momentum of the season but it will be a great chance to get healthy. We'll have a lot to talk about the next two weeks. The Giants play Oakland next week so expect another battle of undefeated teams when the Saints return to face New York.

Pretty sure this was NOT a costume.
Even Gumbo was sporting the pink.
Payton getting mic'd up. Feel free to caption this one yourself in the comment section.
Moses wants YOU to get loud on third down.
Payton having a chat with the offensive line.
Goodwin talking with the rest of the line.
Brees going over the last series. Real men wear pink.
Obligatory Saintsation picture.

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short yardage suckage
was frustrating… i think it had to do with play calling as well as execution. i think reggie and pierre in the backfield at the goal line would present match up problems for the defense, but payton never seems to do it. wonder why?
by nanvinnie on Oct 5, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BAH
the jets excel at stopping the short yardage.
We have not had big issues with it in the other games dont fret on it this game.
MT
by MT_always on Oct 5, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's no excuse
If they excel at stopping short yardage, then we have to excel at shoving them out of the way and saying, “Not us, pal.” That’s how teams win championships. No excuses.
Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston
by MtnExile on Oct 5, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or we shove sometimes and sometimes scheme our way around a tough D-line expecting us to just shove hard
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray
by HansDat on Oct 5, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Payton Captions:
“Excuse me, sir, I’m going to ask you to move over a little bit. We’re trying to get some footage of Gregg Williams.”
“Aww, it’s okay, sweetheart, you can have 400 yards and 40 points from passing next time. You’re still the big winner! Is that a smile I see?”
“Gimme that! You can have the challenge flag back at THE END of the game. IF you can show me you can be trusted with it.”
“You see, this here is the thirty yard line. Now traditional football wisdom suggests that from this point on, you can trust your field goal kicker to get 3 points for your team on fourth down. In fact, that’s pretty much the only reason you have a dedicated field goal kicker on the roster. Of course, three is less than seven, but it’s also more than zero.”
"Brees will kill you, but he lets you decide how fast he tightens the garrote." -Chris Brown
by FuSoYa on Oct 5, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
“Sean, your windbreaker looks awesome and all, but the chances of a rain game today are pretty much slim to none.”
"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush
by coldpizza on Oct 5, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a problem with Payton
it’s his team, his offense did what it needed to do to win. It was obvious the defense was the big story, it outscored the offense and played awesome, but he defended the defense when the offense was off the charts and now he is doing the converse. And I liked that he went for it on 4th down- just called a bad play. It was better to have Sanchez with his back to the wall than get the 3 points. But I really thought we would convert there. We can and we will next time.
Reggie is ok. He played poorly, but as long as Payton uses him the right way, he’s ok. We won, we are winning, don’t shake it up. Use Reggie like you have been and hope he doesn’t fumble. Oh, and somebody get rid of his sleezy woman, tht might help too.
"Indecision may or may not be my biggest problem" - Jimmy Buffet
by Philinwood on Oct 5, 2009 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
he defended the defense
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by asaint on Oct 5, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reggie..
I feel everyone’s concern with Reggie, but I don’t think anyone was questioning his abilites on that Monday Night performance against the Vikings…2 punt returns for TDs, almost 3…We also need to make sure we never discount the decoy factor that Reggie allows us…Yeah, it may be an expensive one, but it is an huge attribute to our success..I am not a Reggie apologist, just wanted to point out how quickly we forget
by sho'nuf on Oct 5, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Reggie is not Deuce, never will be. Reggie is more important to this offense that many think (even if it’s a decoy).
by Ponysaints on Oct 5, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Payton have the mic open
after Reggie fumbled?
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by MobileSaint on Oct 5, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No need to look at last year
Reggie had over 6 ypc in this game. At some point, fans are going to start to realize that he has indeed improved at running between the tackles.
by HB-NOLA on Oct 5, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am...
And besides the fumble (lol) he was having a solid game. Last game he was too, but Payton pulls him out in the second half. I noticed last game he got 9 carries in first half then thats it. I think Payton is trying to keep dude from getting hurt…so I expect to see the 20 touch games more after game 8.
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
by TAYDIGGA on Oct 5, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Reggie had 6 ypc as was mentioned earlier. That’s more than PT, who had a few big runs to help his YPC average. Bush had the fumble, which is never a good thing, but he obviously worked harder at protecting the ball after. I thought he looked damn good today, and had a nice punt return when there really wasn’t anything there. One more block and it might have gone the distance.
I’d say any back that’s averaging 6 yards against a team like the Jets is having a pretty good day. I have a feeling that until Bush, every game, rushes for 150 yards on 10 carries and 100 yards receiving scoring 3 touchdowns with no fumbles, he’s going to be called a bust. He definitely needs his contract restructured, but I’ll be damned if he’s not a good player. I sure wouldn’t want to see anything but a fleur de lis on his helmet.
The people who say, "Winning isn't everything," don't win very often.
by Hooahsaint on Oct 6, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“We also need to make sure we never discount the decoy factor that Reggie allows us”
It’s kind of difficult to discount something that’s brought up so frequently. “Ok Steeler fans, let’s not forget what a great downfield blocker Hines Ward is, even when he’s dropping everything thrown in his direction.” Nice sentiment and all, but how many other fans around the league are looking at the zero receptions stat line and thinking “wtf is wrong with Hines Ward?” Bring the entire package consistently and there’s no need for reminder Post-Its.
"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush
by coldpizza on Oct 5, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
???
I’m failing to find the logic here coldpizza…Hines Ward? Seriosly?
by sho'nuf on Oct 5, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s kind of difficult to discount something that’s brought up so frequently.
^ the logic
"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush
by coldpizza on Oct 5, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the arrow, nice touch.
But he had a pretty good game. Ya’ll can mention some earlier games, but I’m pretty happy with his contributions this week, minus the fumble. I think Payton would have stuck with him, but he was looking to pound the ball in the second half, which isn’t Reggie’s strong suit nor has he proven he’s durable enough to do that.
I like the philosophy Payton has right now . . . split the touches and go with whoever is hot at the time. Reggie is arguably one of the best 3rd down running backs in the game, and I’m really impressed with his improvements in pass blocking. He’s still young too. I’m not ready to give up on him yet.
The people who say, "Winning isn't everything," don't win very often.
by Hooahsaint on Oct 6, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and I'm one of them.
I’m wondering why I drafted Ward for my FF team. Of course, several years ago, I drafted Marvin Harrison and he performed poorly for the first half of the season. As soon as I traded him, he knocked of 10 TD’s in the second half. I hope Hines follows the same pattern. Everyone says the Steeler running game is suffering and that they will have to rely on more passing, but we’ll see.
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by Tigernut on Oct 5, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will say though that...
I was at BJ’s with these dudes from Louisiana and he was saying he wish Bush was never drafted…so I’m assuming a lot of fans feel this way…for now. But wait tell dude starts winning games for us again, especially in the playoffs. Oh, it’ll all change.
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
by TAYDIGGA on Oct 5, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope that for all our offensive players
that they really mean it when they say things like “all that matters is getting the W,” etc.
If we win more games like this, with no real offensive fireworks, I do not want players to start forcing things and messing up our streak.
As we know from Bull Durham….“don’t f&^% with the streak!”
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray
by HansDat on Oct 5, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Give credit to the Jets defense.
Why? They had no sacks and no interceptions. I don’t believe they stymied Payton or the Saints. Take away the 2 defensive scores and it would have been a different game. It sure would have. Payton would’ve had to unleash hell. We haven’t seen the whole 2009 playbook yet, fellas. Until the Saints lose, we don’t know yet what this offense can do.
"That's a done dollar." -#94
by stujo4 on Oct 5, 2009 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Nope. Take away the 2 defensive scores and the Saints aren’t kneeling the ball on the final play. They’re down 13-10, pushing for the come-from-behind victory after being stymied all game by a Top 5 defense. Not that that’s a reason for concern, mind you. The Saints are still a developing team. No sacks and no interceptions. LOL, you crack me up.
"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush
by coldpizza on Oct 5, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
take away the defensive scores, take away the 7 points they got from our mistake.
we are still winning.
MT
by MT_always on Oct 5, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cmon
this is ridiculous, everyone imagines that everything will go the same way if things did or didnt happen. do you think we might have done things a little differently for the rest of the game if we dont pick off sanchez for six on their first possession? our playcalling when we are tied 3-3 or down 3-7 is going to be different than when we are up 10-0. when we needed a td to put the game away in the 4th, the offense responded and marched down the field while eating a lot of the clock.
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 5, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s true. Sanchez may not throw an interception at all, if they’re not playing from behind. If he doesn’t drop the ball, it’s a safety. If he tucks it, it’s an incomplete pass. Too many variables to consider. All I’m saying is that without the two defensive scores, it’s a different ball game, BECAUSE the Jets held the Saints offense to 10 points, the same amount of points we held theirs to. There are no guarantees either way. The point being that to say that one team didn’t stymie the other is just idiotic. It was a defensive struggle for both teams throughout. The defensive scores are the ONLY thing that blew the game open.
"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush
by coldpizza on Oct 5, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but our offense and d deserve credit on the fumble in the endzone
i like the call to go for it on 4th and goal from the one. the offense got it there, and they deserve some credit for putting sanchez in a difficult situation. the defense capitalized on that situation. even if they punt out of the endzone, our chances of blocking or returning the punt go up, and at the very least we get good field position around the fifty.
you make it sound like we deserved to lose, if not for a few lucky plays. when it comes down to it we gained more yards, ate more clock, and made fewer mistakes.
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 5, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me get this straight...
The number one offense in the league is held to one score and you don’t think the opponents defense did at least a pretty good job? You’re basically saying “The Jets didn’t do well, the Saints just sucked” which is what you are all bashing NY fans for thinking about THEIR team. Seems a bit hypocritical.
I have long thought Saints fans were reasonable and fairly even keeled. I hope you guys don’t start letting all of this success go to your heads. Let’s keep some perspective.
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by Saintsational on Oct 5, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think their d did very well
i thought before the game that the matchup between our off and their def would be a push. those two stops on 4th down hurt as did the reggie fumble. but i thought we had an advantage in the matchup between our def and their off, which as we all know was not the focus of the media. i am proud with the way our def played, and i dont think that it was a fluke. but, im not deluded enough to think that we will have that kind of defensive success against anyone with the last name brady or manning.
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 5, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well maybe against eli if he has one of those 4 int and 8 sack days
by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 5, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to be clear
My comments weren’t just for you they were for anyone who thinks the Jets defense handed the Saints this game.
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by Saintsational on Oct 5, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all. If anyone did any handing out, it was Senor Sanchez. I think it was a well-earned win on the whole, particularly in the battle of field position. Outside of one semi-shank, the punting was superb. Washington and Leonhard were held to 17 yards TOTAL on kickoff and punt returns. Washington alone AVERAGES more than that.
"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush
by coldpizza on Oct 5, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I'm freaking giddy..
.. that the D won the game. Reminds me of the old Dome Patrol. Hey, CP, have you come up with a good name for our current D? Dome Patrol II I have used, but I think this squad deserves better than a renovated nickname.
How about Legion of Dome?
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by Tigernut on Oct 5, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are right
I don’t see how anyone could say that wasn’t a stellar effort by the Jets D. We had a great effort defensively as well, but obviously they had a bigger challenge as our offense and our QB are on a different level.
"Indecision may or may not be my biggest problem" - Jimmy Buffett
by Philinwood on Oct 5, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
most of us are...
as of late though I’m starting to hear some crazy crap!
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
by TAYDIGGA on Oct 5, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
and if you’re looking for the comments that were here before, they’ve been hidden because you felt the need to attack a member personally. If you want to do that, take your comments to NOLA.com. We don’t do that around here.
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by Saintsational on Oct 5, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
me? I didn't attack anyone...
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
by TAYDIGGA on Oct 5, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not you
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by Saintsational on Oct 6, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems that it's a bit of a controversy
The Jets defense did an excellent job stuffing the Saints offense, especially the passing attack.
tv says: October 5, 2009 7:55 PM
I think the Jets “stuffing” the NO O is a bit overrated.
Thanks to the D, they had a 14 pt lead for much of the game.
It is highly doubtful that the passing attack was the same as it would have been if the game were closer.
"Only one of us is walking out of this game undefeated. We want it to be us." -Brees
by stujo4 on Oct 5, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New Orleans is going to be a difficult team to beat once it builds a lead. Teams have so much respect for the passing game that they don’t consider loading up vs. the run, which leaves room for Thomas to pick up significant yardage and keep the clock running.
"Only one of us is walking out of this game undefeated. We want it to be us." -Brees
by stujo4 on Oct 5, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, but of course. Because a lack of two defensive TDs scores would automatically lead to two additional possessions by the Saints. How much more high-powered football action can you cram into 15 seconds, dreamer? And you forgot the best part. You’d walk over, but you’d limp away. Every good story should carry a moral.
"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush
by coldpizza on Oct 5, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
limp?
you gonna hit him with your ego?
MT
by MT_always on Oct 5, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would I have any other options? I could use your knowledge of football, if it existed.
"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush
by coldpizza on Oct 5, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think most of us here at CSC have gotten past the immaturity and bickering and everything feels back to normal
except for you and Stu. I recommend doing the same.
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by Saintsational on Oct 5, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I apologize for reading his comments, that was my error.
No apologies for anything else.
"That's a done dollar." -#94
by stujo4 on Oct 5, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am with Stu
I fell off the wagon and paid attention to him again. shame on me.
MT
by MT_always on Oct 6, 2009 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well than you both better two a better job of NOT reading his comments
cause I’m getting sick and tired of the immature crap from the both of you. Act like Saints fans, for crying out loud.
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by Saintsational on Oct 6, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i miss that “moron” guy. let’s get him back!
by jful on Oct 5, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I never banned him
I thought that would be giving him what he wants. I just deleted all of his comments. I hope he’s somewhere stewing about how to unsubscribe from CSC.
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by Saintsational on Oct 5, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice
how long do you think it would take him to quit showing up if ppl didn’t tell him to just stop coming here lol
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by skinnykinney on Oct 5, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I missed the action, but..
.. that guy’s ID wasn’t JetsFlyHigh or something like that, was it? I spent some time on the Gang Green thread and he was by far the biggest, rudest, and stupidest idiot I’ve ever met.
Even made me look good!
If we could just sythesize life in a laboratory, we could prove that the creation of life requires no intelligence.
by Tigernut on Oct 5, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
of that Joe Flaherty character … the one Shooter McGavin hires to throw Happy Gilmore off his game … “Jackass.”
"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush
by coldpizza on Oct 5, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
^ reminds me
"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush
by coldpizza on Oct 5, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i loved that movie
The Easter Bunny is a savage...
by ShadowFlash on Oct 5, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loved the captions
definetly was wondering why the guy was touching payton like that untill you said he was getting mic’d up. Then, i went back to wondering why the guy was touching him like that even if he was getting mic’d up. looked kinda fishy :P. The picture of moses, I think the guy in front of him was definetly pumped up since it looked like he was going to fall over the rail. The picture of the lady not dressed up is kind of scary, she looked like one of those evil nuns that want to beat you.
Now, onto the bullets. I agree with you about Reggie. PT fumbled and I checked the live game thread when PT and Reggie fumbled and people hated Reggie after the fumble and no one really said anything about PT’s fumble. I think #1, it was Reggie. Lose it or not, the spotlight is on his ball security problems and what he brings to the talbe. #2, Brees recovered PT’s fumble that would’ve put the Jets on the Saints 45 or somewhere around there, I believe, if they would’ve recovered it. Smith/Grant both looked great the past couple games. Glad to see them earning their money finally, hope it continues. Sharper definetly can be a game changer. Also, I think i’m finally agreeing with you that Greer is our #1 corner. He only let up one play that I saw he shouldn’t have and that was the sidearm pass from Sanchez to the RB(Washington at the time I believe). He should’ve been right beside him so he can jump the pass. Also, I’m still looking for the catching ability of Greer. Some of those passes could’ve been picked, especially one that I saw him get 2 hands on in front of the receiver. Besides catching, he’s been the shit so far behind Sharper on the defensive side of the ball. I think that everyone is now happy with moving up in the draft to get Moorestead. The guy is a stud so far. Also, I completely blame payton for our short yardage situations failing. Well, maybe 5% to the line. You’re not going to run it inside against a defense that good especially when they expect it. He didn’t try to run it outside 1 time in short situations, especially goalline. The playcalling was just too predictable in those spots. Our first 4th down, I would’ve liked to have seen a QB sneak or a FB handoff. It was horrible play calling imo.
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by skinnykinney on Oct 5, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I dvr’d the game, and if you slo motion the play reggie wasn’t even down, he was stripped of the ball. Yes technically it could be called a fumble, but doesn’t stripping the ball happen to players at 1 time or another during the game. And yes most posters bashed Reggie more then Pierre. I actually like Reggie. He needs to quit over thinking his moves & just go with the flow.
by N_O_1saintfan on Oct 5, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe if he could actually get in there and get used to the game, he would...
then again i think Payton is just being precautious and will unleash the burning Bush more and more every game. Dude is doing a solid job and hitting holes well. And he’s hitting the outside at the best times…
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
by TAYDIGGA on Oct 5, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
the first two games he looked just flat out bad but the past two games he’s looked superb. I watched the MNF game last night and it said that AP had the most fumbles for a RB(15) since 2007. Everyone’s going to fumble at some point. The first two games seemed more like his preseason since he didn’t play in the actual preseason. I’m hoping they’ll give him the ball more.
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by skinnykinney on Oct 6, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
burning Bush
I’m not a medical professional, and I’m certainly not a girl, but shouldn’t you see a doctor about that?
thankyouverymuch
I’ll be here all week!
heck, I’l be here forever!
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray
by HansDat on Oct 6, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ref. to pic of Payton getting mic'd
“Is that his wallet sticking out”…. “yes it is”……“is the cop looking”…..“no he isn’t”….“yes”…..“time to move in for the the pick” (pocket) lol
by narco301 on Oct 5, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice photos
I think that was my 8th grade english teacher in the 1st shot. lol. The hardest part of yesterday’s game wasn’t the Jets D. It was listening to Dan Dierdork. Thank goodness Pierre finally shut him the %$#@ up!
A SAINT in Panther country
by carolinasaintsfan on Oct 5, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"No, Coach, these pants do NOT make your butt look fat."
“Yes, Coach, your red flag is right there and ready to toss at an (in)appropriate moment.”
by SaintsFan-KS on Oct 5, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the second one
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by Saintsational on Oct 5, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping somebody would.
I crack myself up!
by SaintsFan-KS on Oct 5, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about..
“Yeah, your ass does look a little chapped. Want I should grab the Butt-Paste?”
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by Tigernut on Oct 5, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
This game is over as I’m concerned we need to focus on the Giants in 2 weeks. Good win for our defense You win SB with Defense
by Nomoaints on Oct 5, 2009 5:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Unless...
You have to have a “good” defense. But, I think the “you win championships with defense” is a bit outdated. You can win by scoring a ton of points and getting 1 timely stop or 2. “The Greatest Show on Turf” won a SB without a D. The Cardinals were within 2 minutes of winning a SB last year without a D you could even consider professional.
by GobBluth on Oct 5, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jets defense did NOT stymie Saints offense
(I would have added this to the earlier comments, but that was too long and too personal.)
Their defense played very well, but hardly at an elite level. They had 0 sacks, 0 INTs, only 3 negative plays (2 TFLs, one FF), barely got pressure on Brees and when they did he made them pay for it. They also allowed 153 yards rushing. Holding Brees to 190 yards passing and no TDs is pretty damn good, but ultimately useless if you give up that much on the ground. They did come up with some big stops, but not nearly enough to stop the Saints offense. Everyone points out that the Saints offense only scored 10 points, but anyone that watched the game knows that could easily have been 20 (field goal instead going for it on 4th and goal, and kneeling on 1st and goal with 1:25 left to play).
by HB-NOLA on Oct 5, 2009 6:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Forgot to mention
They Jets D on forced 2 3-and-outs on the Saints offense. The Bills managed it 4 times.
by HB-NOLA on Oct 5, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Saints
held the Jets to 244 total net yards on offense. They were averaging 315 per game going in. The Jets held the Saints to 343. They were averaging 438 prior. Unobjectively speaking, that’s pretty damn close to the same level of “stymying” … 77.5% to 78.3%.
"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush
by coldpizza on Oct 5, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If all you're considering is total yardage
In any case, I wasn’t really comparing the teams’ defenses. As great as the Saints D looked, I still have a problem with them giving up 132 rushing yards. Going into that game, they were giving up less than 70/game. Admittedly that was partly due to playing with very large leads against Philly and Detroit. But still, 132 is too many in any game.
by HB-NOLA on Oct 5, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Total yardage and points surrendered (which was even this week). Doesn’t really matter if it’s by land or by air, does it? Field position is field position.
"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush
by coldpizza on Oct 5, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won if by land, too, if by air?
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by Tigernut on Oct 5, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like your post-
It makes me feel better about our offensive effort yesterday. Maybe I needed to see those stats again to reflect. But, I also must add that it sure did seem like a pretty good defensive effort- they bent a lot but didn’t break and, as we saw last year many times, it’s very hard for a defense to play its best when the offense is sabotaging the effort like Sanchez and his boys did.
All in all, I think both sides are right. The Jets defense played well, our offense played better than 10 points indicates, and although I doubt it will happen, if we ever played the Jets again this year i think our offense would probably put up more like 28-35 points.
"Indecision may or may not be my biggest problem" - Jimmy Buffett
by Philinwood on Oct 5, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They do have a very good defense
and they played pretty well. I wouldn’t deny that. I just disagree with the prevailing notion that they shut down the Saints offense. I think that we Saints fans are so used to seeing the offense move the ball at will, that when they don’t it feels like something must be broken or the opposing defense is just overwhelming. I always like to wait a day and go over the box score and play-by-play to get a better perspective on it. Had you asked me yesterday, I would have been ranting about 2 fumbles, no TD passes, etc. Today, the only big problem I see were some critical offensive penalties.
by HB-NOLA on Oct 5, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly don't think they shut down the Saints offense
that was not my intent
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by Saintsational on Oct 5, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they shut our passing down...
I can admit that.
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
by TAYDIGGA on Oct 5, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at the cost of the run
and if teams want to do that, i’m ok with it even if it will completely kill my FF teams.
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
by skinnykinney on Oct 6, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carolina
I have to agree listening to the announcers yesterday was enough to make you ill.
by NOSFan4Life on Oct 5, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Question for Saintsational
Are those photos taken with your camera phone? If not what kind do you have and how the heck did you sneak it into the dome?
by N_O_1saintfan on Oct 5, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No
It’s taken with a Canon Powershot. You are allowed to bring cameras into the dome, I think you just can’t have a telephoto (sp?) lens.
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by Saintsational on Oct 5, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moses:
“that’ll cost u fin” ($5)…or a cold beer. Did he get an upgrade to his costume, is he now charging for $$ for photos? ..As far as game play, would have been OK with a FG to make it 13-10 Saints, but then the sack/fum/recover wouldn’t have happened. T O on downs, thought that was on Payton’s playcalling, Jets D IS Good and i thought they were ready for a run inside. Was thinking Reggie wide, WR screen, or bootleg, Nesbit on 4th? But hey Paytons the coach I’ll take the Win. K did a great job with Touchbacks ,no chance for Leon W.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
by metryman on Oct 5, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Defense or Offense
Ok we can all agree that the jets have a good defense, but before this game they supposedly had a good offense so I don’t think there offense screwed up.. our defense played just that good. Did they face a defense better than ours before this game? There defense on the other hand really didn’t touch Brees so our offense was better still. So whoever can say the jets offense had a bad day…..they did…it’s called the Saints Defense!!!
by kejone04 on Oct 5, 2009 8:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, that would be a good name.
The Bad Day D.
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by Tigernut on Oct 5, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, Favre looks like he's got another good 5 years left in him.
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