As far as “most Saints fans would rather see Reggie Bush fail than the Saints win”, I think that’s taking it a little to the extreme, don’t you???

Reggie is, unfortunately, the target of a lot of trash talk. Personally, I’d love to see him or any other Saint just get better and better as the season goes on. They are ALL a piece of the puzzle and so far the pieces fit.

Support the entire team for the entire season. One way or the other, necessary adjustments will be made after February.

that’s a serious exaggeration. most fans (who are not wildly intoxicated) i talk to about Reggie either like him, or honestly dont care because were 8-0!

a few drunk jerks dose not a fan base make.

if somebody tried to start that chant in my section, he would probably get choked to death.

I had my criticisms of Reggie and I still do. But when he clearly became a "non every down " back , which henow definitely is, that was the answer to my prayers and I continued to redognize his talents as a back and receiver who could and does do wonderful things often. But, now it goes past that, he is accepting his role which may be hard to do and he is our secret weapon, our X factor, because he can do amazing things and any team that plays against our team with so many outstanding weapons without Reggie and then we roll Reggie into it, well it must be just overwhelming and that makes me happy.

harsh but all so true.

But let me say this. If the Saints fans were doing that then they are going to run cuz out of New Orleans. I read a comment somewhere summing up how the Hype of Bush was never been paired with the chances for him to live up to them. His career carries are 10 a game and he’s been injured. With the type of hype he’s had that’s not going to cut it. Last year before he got heart though, that’s what people were expecting. I think he would’ve been an 800/800 with like 18 tds but the injury hit him and people want to say, “oh his body can’t handle it” or this or that but we really don’t know. What if he was going to get hurt no matter what happened. Chris Johnson is the same height and weight as Reg—roughly and he does fine. So I’m not buying it. Let’s see what Payton does with him this second half of season. If he continues to get limited touches, Superbowl or not, he’s gone. Because he wasn’t given the opportunity to get his incentives…

Please understand, this all comes down to a difference in expectations. In the beginning, EVERYONE was expecting Reggie Bush to be at least something similar to what he was at USC. He got picked to be that and he got paid to be that.

The people that some of you call “haters” (that’s a really dumb term, by the way), are generally those people who feel that he didn’t become that because of a lack of effort or interest and feel a certain amount of disgust about that (I really don’t know anyone who hates him because he’s from California or bones Kim Kardashian). These people are actively angry at RB, have given up on him, and are quick to bash him.

Then there is the category that most people in this thread fit into: Reggie is a Saint and he’s cool and he’s glamorous. Even a middling third string role on the team is enough of a role to keep me happy and I’ve already got his jersey, so who cares about past expectations. GO REGGIE!!

Also, any negative word about Reggie’s peformance or contribution is a HATE CRIME.

Then there’s a third middle category. These fans would NEVER chant against Reggie or any Saints player, but don’t understand what the hell is wrong with him and generally perceive a lack of NFL talent and vision. But they nevertheless pull for Reggie Bush every week to have that ONE BREAKOUT GAME and prove them wrong and finally shut up his critics. But as time goes by, they realize that that game will more than likely never come to pass and just despair for what will probably end up being a lot of unnecessary money spent, a misspent draft pick, and a mediocre football career at best.

I’m pretty much in that category; even if you forgive his not being able to satisfy the hype, which I do, he still should be a lot better than what he is.

But God bless him, I think he’s trying, and I love that he’s been launching into tacklers recently (alas, to little effect). I like Reggie Bush, and I’ll pull for him until he’s no longer a Saint (and maybe beyond), but I’d be a lot higher on him if he’d come in as a 4th or 5th round pick and we were somewhere close to earning back our investment.

P.S. I don’t buy that “But they have to scheme for him/he’s a great decoy b***s***.”

1. don’t take the word hater so serious. I’m assuming most of you guys who make a big deal about this word are older and don’t really get how the word is used these days. Especially us who listen to Rap music which I know some of you guys probably “hate”. lol
2. There are plenty of people that “hate” on Bush because of his “hollywood image” I think anybody here love or hate can admit that.
3. I haven’t seen the dude show any lack of interest or hard work at all. I’m in the fourth category. I believe the dude just didn’t end up on the right team to live up to the hype. Not saying I don’t want him as a Saint but if he was or is ever going to live up to the hype it aint going to be with Sean Payton and the Saints. Too many weapons and ball spread out too much. Only the QB can be a true star offensively. No one, not even Colston is going to put up big numbers day in and out.
4. I don’t think anyone saying anything negative about Reggie is committing a “hate crime” HoohSaint, Fusoya and others bring up objective and yet constructive criticisms of him and i agree with them most of the time. Its just when people are adamant about saying something negative about him that makes it “hate”. Even then the word is used loosely for the most part. Coldpizza basically admitted to not liking him soo…there’s no argument there.

When Reggie was featured and he got more than 15 carries…dude was solid. Here’s some stats my friend:

2006 vs Cleveland 15 att 67 yards 4.5 ypc

2006 vs Giants 20 att 126 yards 6.3 ypc

2007 vs Seattle 19 att 97 yards 5.1 ypc

2007 vs Jaguars 17 att 72 yards 4.2 ypc

2008 vs Broncos 18 att 73 yards 4.1 ypc
But then people want to say he can’t handle that load. But we don’t really know that. He never has been hurt up until his second year. Every running back gets hurt. Adrian Peterson was hurt throughout college. Brandon Jacobs stays hurt now. And they’re bigger than him and supposed to be able to take it. While you have guys that have been Reggie’s size or smaller who rarely got hurt. Warrick Dunn comes to mind. It’s just running style, which in my opinion is dumb to criticize. It’s a style for heavens sake!

In retrospect, I think it’s clear Reggie wasn’t the top back in the draft—DeAngelo Williams seems more worthy of a top-five pick now. The whole football world was sold on Reggie as the second coming. Most of us Saints fans freaked out when the Texans passed on him. If we could go back in time, I think most Saints fans would gladly pick someone else. But whatever—at least Reggie isn’t Jonathan Sullivan.

His role in the offense this year is perfect—he’s had some really solid runs, he’s always been good catching passes, and his pass blocking has improved. Sure, he’s not playing we’d expect from a 1st round pick (so essentially he’s waaaaaay overpaid) but almost every week his athleticism is on display. And I’m not going to complain when he’s scoring TDs and we’re 8-0. All this despite the fact that I think I fit the criteria of a “Reggie hater.”

One other thing:

I think that for some reason most Saints fans would rather see Reggie Bush fail than the Saints win

Now THAT is the most false statement ever made on CSC.

he’s only had 15+ carries 3 other times in this span in which he didn’t get over 4ypc. That’s 8 times in 4 years—yeah he’s not living up to the hype alright! and that’s more like 62% of the games he’s had over 15 carries and did great, cuz i know coldpizza is going to do his/her thing and scrutinize that stat.

I purposely and intently said carries. You said “2nd round pick” did you not. Yes, as a running back. Read my post, I already brought this part up because I knew it was coming. I’m talking as a runningback running the ball. Forget, his receptions for now. He averaged 13.1 carries a game? You sure about that? D Williams ONLY?got 18 touches a game? Come on man, don’t put only in there for such an obviously flawed and incomparable stat. I mean, the dude was injured the last 4 games. 1 good game and he was at 4ypc. I’m not saying he needs to do anything, I’m just saying it isn’t fair to say he isn’t doing this or that based on the amount of carries he gets. Why are you saying all this stuff I never said? Strawman fallacies to the fullest!

to use that stat.

He has had lots of oppertunities to be the featured back on the saints and has stepped up very few times.
He dances side to side and doesnt hit the hole like pierre thomas. or mike bell
he also has a tendency to fumble
Until he proves himself to coach payton he will probably stay in the position hes in
Yes he is playing better with limited touches so i have to think coach payton knows how to use him better then anyone on this board

He wasn’t running right regardless of what stats said. He seems to have a better understanding now.

Despite what anyone may say to the contrary, I think he’d be very effective getting 15+ carries now. He’s demonstrated the last few weeks that he’s a better more determined runner and finds the holes well with little hesitation. It may be too little too late, though.

SP seems content with things as they are, so we may be seeing the end of the Bush era.

“we may be seeing the end of the Bush era.”

Deja vu?

There’s a chance that due to his potentiasity and capabilitous skills other than rushing, that Sean Payton may introduce new elements of strategery!

Come on man! He is an opposing head coaches nightmare. This dude doesnt hit the whole as hard as he should I’ll take that one, but what he does in the passing game out of the backfield is sick bro for real. Punting is always an adventure but boy when he hit the home runs last year!!!! errrrrrrr ONE IN THE DOME was screaming REGGIE then…..TRUE STORY.

WHO DAT, Bless you Boys, Geaux Saints!!