You should know me by now. If there’s a flipside to anything, I’m going there.

That about sums it up.

after we beat st louis a**?

1.) Would you continue to be a Saints fan? No
2.) Would you entertain suicidal thoughts? No
3.) Could you handle the ridicule such an epic choke job would inevitably spawn? No
4.) Should Sean Payton be fired? No
5.) Would you begin to believe in Marie Laveau’s curse? Yes
6.) Could you ever again approach a new football season with unbridled optimism? Absolutely not
7.) If you’re a season ticket holder, would you renew? If you’re not, would you take advantage of the cancellations, in order to get your foot in the door? Yes
8.) Would you attempt to rationalize the 8-0 start, by considering that “maybe we just weren’t that good all along”? Yes
9.) What changes (if any) would you want to see made, before investing yourself in the team again? Depends on how they lose the 8 games.
10.) Which (if any) of your answers to the above questions would depend on the circumstances surrounding the collapse? In other words, would a season-ending injury to Brees in the Rams game (for example), somehow lessen the humiliation in hindsight? And to what extent? Only #9. The question, not the quarterback.

“Only Saints fans could be 8-0 for first time ever & still angst-ridden. "

Personally I will enjoy the ride as best I can whatever happens. In the end, 8-8 or 3 consecutive superbowls and everything in between, it’s just a game.

So far, it’s pretty easy to enjoy.

1) That’s a stupid question. But no, for the record.
2) Not because of anything the Saints do, but I wouldn’t rule anything out as impossible.
3) Sure. What would be the difference, really? The Saints have sucked a lot over the years.
4) Probably not. He’s done a great job this year. He’d have to really screw the pooch to deserve the can after the first half of this season.
5) Does that have anything to do with the burial ground beneath the dome? Because that’s what’s been causing all the Saints’ woes, and that alone.
6) Never did to begin with.
7) Not Applicable. If I lived in the area, I’d love a crack at a season ticket, though.
8) No. I think that would be giving an absurd amount of credit to the coaches. If the takeaways suddenly came to a grinding halt, I’d figure other teams figured out GW’s scheme, end of story. The stats on the defense give an accurate depiction of that squad in my mind. Mediocre defense, but ballhawks, and a solid secondary.
9) I don’t understand the question. What do I want in the draft or FA? OLB’s, and O-line, and a real young qb prospect. But I’m invested, whatever the outcome, so I don’t see there being any need for a “deal” with the franchise. If they drafted two new WR’s, another CB, and a highly touted longsnapper, I’d complain, but I’d still watch. I guess, uh, no black pants.
10) 4, possibly, but he’d have to call some really terrible games.

about my post. Any negativity about the Saints will bring down the wrath and you will burn in Hell. I’m writing the from the depths right now. Continue with caution………………

The real point of this thread is not to gain insights into what emotional impacts a season collapse would produce on its fanbase, but instead throw cold water on fans that are rightfully proud, upbeat and positive about their team and its future.

Pizza, why not just troll on the Redskins and Packers boards for a while? You’ll get a really good feel as to what abject disappointment and dashed expectations feel like.

Answers
1.) Would you continue to be a Saints fan?
I’ll still follow them, but I’ll likely be moving out of state sometime next year regardless, so I’ll have a new local team to support and/or call my favorite. To be perfectly honest, the only reason I haven’t relocated yet is because I had already purchased season tickets and I want to be around to see how this whole thing plays out. It’s pretty much a one shot deal for me, no matter what.
2.) Would you entertain suicidal thoughts?
Not even if they went 0-16.
3.) Could you handle the ridicule such an epic choke job would inevitably spawn?
I lived through the 1980 season. I’m pretty sure I’m immune to ridicule.
4.) Should Sean Payton be fired?
Tough call. I think he would be, if only to regenerate interest among what remained of the fan base. Whether he’d deserve it or not would depend on how it played out.
5.) Would you begin to believe in Marie Laveau’s curse?
Yes. I don’t now, but I definitely would.
6.) Could you ever again approach a new football season with unbridled optimism?
I never do.
7.) If you’re a season ticket holder, would you renew? If you’re not, would you take advantage of the cancellations, in order to get your foot in the door?
No. If for whatever reason I continued to live in New Orleans, then yes.
8.) Would you attempt to rationalize the 8-0 start, by considering that "maybe we just weren’t that good all along"?
Yes. More along the lines of opponent’s strength, though. I’m iffy on how good they are from a personnel perspective to begin with.
9.) What changes (if any) would you want to see made, before investing yourself in the team again?
Franchise LT, a C, two or three new OLBs, a relatively young backup QB with NFL experience, a flatout bruiser of a RB. New open air stadium, outside of the bowl.
10.) Which (if any) of your answers to the above questions would depend on the circumstances surrounding the collapse? In other words, would a season-ending injury to Brees in the Rams game (for example), somehow lessen the humiliation in hindsight? And to what extent?
3, 4 8 and 9.

Why don’t you get a job or post someting worthwhile? Wait, Tigerpaw has it right, go troll on on some other websites, you’d be perfect for that.

Do you eternally cheery guys ever bitch out life insurance companies for being in cahoots with mortality? Just curious.

1.Of course i would, this wouldn’t take me by surprise as much as you might think

2.No I cant die till I see our team win it all

3.Your really asking a saints fan about ridicule and humiliation,where have you been all these years?

4.Hey if we can put up with haslett all those years why not sean peyton

5.What do you mean start to believe?

6.Only if i became a patriots fan lol

7.Cant afford season tickets but if i could i would

8.No i would just chalk it up as “Same old saints”

9.Just wait till next year because you know that will be our year

10.The black pants we seem to be wearing those way to much lately

1.) Would you continue to be a Saints fan? Yes
2.) Would you entertain suicidal thoughts? Nope
3.) Could you handle the ridicule such an epic choke job would inevitably spawn? It would suck, but yes.
4.) Should Sean Payton be fired? Probably
5.) Would you begin to believe in Marie Laveau’s curse? A little bit
6.) Could you ever again approach a new football season with unbridled optimism? Nope
7.) If you’re a season ticket holder, would you renew? If you’re not, would you take advantage of the cancellations, in order to get your foot in the door? N/A
8.) Would you attempt to rationalize the 8-0 start, by considering that “maybe we just weren’t that good all along”? No
9.) What changes (if any) would you want to see made, before investing yourself in the team again? Depends on how we lose
10.) Which (if any) of your answers to the above questions would depend on the circumstances surrounding the collapse? In other words, would a season-ending injury to Brees in the Rams game (for example), somehow lessen the humiliation in hindsight? And to what extent?
4, 8, 9

1.) Would you continue to be a Saints fan? yes Can’t stop after 43 yrs.
2.) Would you entertain suicidal thoughts? It’s only a game.
3.) Could you handle the ridicule such an epic choke job would inevitably spawn? Not living in Panther land.
4.) Should Sean Payton be fired? depends on how we went 0-8
5.) Would you begin to believe in Marie Laveau’s curse? Yes
6.) Could you ever again approach a new football season with unbridled optimism? I am a fan of the Saints and the Duke Blue Devils, so you can figure that one.
7.) If you’re a season ticket holder, would you renew? If you’re not, would you take advantage of the cancellations, in order to get your foot in the door?N/A
8.) Would you attempt to rationalize the 8-0 start, by considering that "maybe we just weren’t that good all along"? Yes, If there were no significant injuries
9.) What changes (if any) would you want to see made, before investing yourself in the team again? Too soon to tell.
10.) Which (if any) of your answers to the above questions would depend on the circumstances surrounding the collapse? In other words, would a season-ending injury to Brees in the Rams game (for example), somehow lessen the humiliation in hindsight? And to what extent? The Brees injury is something i’m sure we all think about every week. I really hate to even put it in type. #8

…nothing wrong with a dose of potential (bad) reality:

1.) Would you continue to be a Saints fan? When you cut me, I bleed black and gold.
2.) Would you entertain suicidal thoughts? Never, under any circumstance would I contemplate such a stupid thing. (If losing the love of my life in divorce TWICE hasn’t done it, nothing the Saints can do will)
3.) Could you handle the ridicule such an epic choke job would inevitably spawn? See the answer to #1 – additionally, I’m a Cubs fan.
4.) Should Sean Payton be fired? Impossible to say without all the circumstances being considered, and as the situation has not occured, unanswerable. Probably not.
5.) Would you begin to believe in Marie Laveau’s curse? No. See my signature, applies to ALL supernatural belief. :-)
6.) Could you ever again approach a new football season with unbridled optimism? Always, tomorrow is a new day – see comments about divorces from women I wanted to die in the presence of. :-)
7.) If you’re a season ticket holder, would you renew? If you’re not, would you take advantage of the cancellations, in order to get your foot in the door? I wish I were a season ticket holder, but living in NC that would be irrational. IF I were, no, I would keep them, if I lived there and weren’t, and was financially able to, yes, I would get them.
8.) Would you attempt to rationalize the 8-0 start, by considering that “maybe we just weren’t that good all along”? See answer #4 – unanswerable. WHY did it happen? Hypothetically too many causes exist, injury, poor play, etc.
9.) What changes (if any) would you want to see made, before investing yourself in the team again? Do they address the issues? With the present management, I think they would at least make an attempt to do so, so unless they totally screwed the pooch after totally screwing the pooch, I’m there. Again, cut me, I bleed black & gold.
10.) Which (if any) of your answers to the above questions would depend on the circumstances surrounding the collapse? In other words, would a season-ending injury to Brees in the Rams game (for example), somehow lessen the humiliation in hindsight? And to what extent? Of course, extenuating circumstances will count in my reaction, but not in my being a fan of the team. I will be disappointed, angry, disgusted, but whatever adjective you choose, it will go in front of “Saints fan”, as in “I am a very ****** Saints fan.”

If losing the love of my life in divorce TWICE hasn’t done it

CP constantly tries to just piss everyone off, condescend, get nasty, belittle individuals, and otherwise bring huge negativity to this website. The list of individiuals that get angry at him for snied comments is quite long. He relentlessy bashed certain Saints and constantly minimizes the talents of a lot of the players on the team such as linebackers, reserves, safeties, running backs. He is one of the few people who post that drags this website down. And then he goes and stirs up controversy and we react and you admonish us. We’re all wrong?? We’re all the ones looking to bring negativity here? Take a look at the history and then decide which poster is constantly making us think we are on the wrong site and it would be more fun elsewhere.

I don’t think there is an ounce of objectivity from CP when he bashes Reggie. He gives him creditfor nothing and Reggie has done a lot for this tgeam, and above all “He is a SAINT!!!!”

1.) Would you continue to be a Saints fan? Yes. I’ve stuck in too long to give up.

2.) Would you entertain suicidal thoughts? No. Murderous thoughts…..maybe!

3.) Could you handle the ridicule such an epic choke job would inevitably spawn? Sure. My mom told me they are laughing WITH me!

4.) Should Sean Payton be fired? If it had nothing to do with injuries then he probably should be.

5.) Would you begin to believe in Marie Laveau’s curse? Why not. I didn’t believe the “Billy Goat” curse on the Cubs until a few years back.

6.) Could you ever again approach a new football season with unbridled optimism? Probably not. At that point, Seeing is believing.

7.) If you’re a season ticket holder, would you renew? If you’re not, would you take advantage of the cancellations, in order to get your foot in the door? If I were I would and I’d definitely take advantage of some cancellations.

8.) Would you attempt to rationalize the 8-0 start, by considering that “maybe we just weren’t that good all along”? Depends but probably not. Sometimes the ball doesn’t bounce your way.

9.) What changes (if any) would you want to see made, before investing yourself in the team again? OLB’s!!! IF we go 19-0 I still want some new OLB’s!!

10.) Which (if any) of your answers to the above questions would depend on the circumstances surrounding the collapse? In other words, would a season-ending injury to Brees in the Rams game (for example), somehow lessen the humiliation in hindsight? And to what extent? #4 and maybe #9

1.) Would you continue to be a Saints fan?
Hell yeah, I’m a glutton for punishment. The Saints are a part of who I am and where I come from. I’ve moved all over the place, and I’m still a fan.
2.) Would you entertain suicidal thoughts?
More like homicidal
3.) Could you handle the ridicule such an epic choke job would inevitably spawn?
I’ve been a Saints fan my whole life, isn’t that ridicule enough?
4.) Should Sean Payton be fired?
No, he’s done great things with the organization, but he would have to reliquish play-call duties.
5.) Would you begin to believe in Marie Laveau’s curse?
I already do.
6.) Could you ever again approach a new football season with unbridled optimism?
I’m optimistic by nature, but oddly enough, the more they win, the less optimistic I am. It’s really strange, but I think I’m looking for the let down.
7.) If you’re a season ticket holder, would you renew? If you’re not, would you take advantage of the cancellations, in order to get your foot in the door?
I WOULD KILL FOR SOME TICKETS!
8.) Would you attempt to rationalize the 8-0 start, by considering that “maybe we just weren’t that good all along”?
I’d attribute it to something else. We’re obviously that good, something would’ve shifted to cause that kind of collapse.
9.) What changes (if any) would you want to see made, before investing yourself in the team again? I wouldn’t need any changes. I’ll still be there rooting every Sunday, star or suck.
10.) Which (if any) of your answers to the above questions would depend on the circumstances surrounding the collapse? In other words, would a season-ending injury to Brees in the Rams game (for example), somehow lessen the humiliation in hindsight? And to what extent?
I think it’s bad to even mention Brees and the “I” word in the same sentence . . . EVER.

He’s entitled to whatever opinion he chooses to have. This would be a pretty boring site if everyone always agreed with each other.

I do have one question though? Why would someone honestly eat cold pizza? Seriously? I’ve seen people eat it in the mornings, bleh. It’s so much better after getting nuked in the microwave. Reheated pizza is one of god’s great gifts that all you cold pizza eaters are missing out on.

I appreciate the input from everyone who’s given it. Whether you agree or not, I find staring down the barrel of worst possible scenarios cathartic, in a sense. Not that this is even the worst possible scenario … coughwearemarshallcough … but you get the picture. At the beginning of the season, I predicted the Saints would finish 9-7, simply because they’ve been flirting with mediocrity from a talent standpoint since the Dick Nolan era. Even as recently as last season, their W-L pattern resembled a sewing machine stitch: WLLWLWLWLWLWWLWL. Be honest. If that was a heart monitor attached to your loved one, you’d walk out of the hospital room to grab lunch, thinking everything was business as usual. Never in my wildest dreams did I think a worst possible scenario halfway through 2009 would look like: WWWWWWWWLLLLLLLL. The mere fact that they’re two victories away from exceeding my expectations makes me happy. If they wind up doing even better than that … and at this point, it appears that they will … then more power to them. Hell, even a meet-me-halfway WLWLWLWL jigsaw job from here on out leaves them at a franchise best 12-4. Actually 12-3 in 1987 was their best winning percentage, but I won’t quibble on that, due to the scab games involved. In any case, it’s refreshing to know that there are a few people mature enough to get past the tantrums of a Utopian society and stare down the potential evil that COULD (but in all likelihood isn’t) lurking just over that hill. In answering these 10 questions, you now have nothing to fear. Aside from it all coming true [Crypt Keeper laugh]. Jk. As you were.

1.) Would you continue to be a Saints fan? Sure, always have been!
2.) Would you entertain suicidal thoughts? No way!
3.) Could you handle the ridicule such an epic choke job would inevitably spawn? I’ve been a fan since the beginning, and I haven’t lived in New Orleans since 2000. What do you think?
4.) Should Sean Payton be fired? Depends on circumstances, but probably not
5.) Would you begin to believe in Marie Laveau’s curse? No. Attributing bad luck to a curse or something beyond control just creates a vicious cycle.
6.) Could you ever again approach a new football season with unbridled optimism? Unbridled? I don’t think I ever have. Optimism…yes! Unbridled? No.
7.) If you’re a season ticket holder, would you renew? If you’re not, would you take advantage of the cancellations, in order to get your foot in the door? Since I’m out of town, that not an option. If I were able, I certainly would.
8.) Would you attempt to rationalize the 8-0 start, by considering that “maybe we just weren’t that good all along”? Again, depends on the circumstances. Like many long-time fans, it’s already hard to believe that they ARE that good!
9.) What changes (if any) would you want to see made, before investing yourself in the team again? Umm, maybe some help along the offensive & defensive lines, but it wouldn’t be a requirement. They’d still be my hometown team, and I’d still follow and cheer for them. I’ll be in the stands in Washington in a few weeks!
10.) Which (if any) of your answers to the above questions would depend on the circumstances surrounding the collapse? In other words, would a season-ending injury to Brees in the Rams game (for example), somehow lessen the humiliation in hindsight? And to what extent? Probably number 4 and that’s about it. Thanks for your thought-provoking post coldpizza. And thanks for the awesome job you do with the blog Dave!

That should answer the rest of the questions .

will answer #1.Always….I certainly am not going to out and buy a Cowboys Jersey . Thanks Dave and CP for all you guys do. Being a Saint fan we all catch our selves saying during games, what the HELL?!, then ALRIGHT!, WHOO,HOOO. But I really wanted to check my avatar change, hee,hee,hee.

Were you drinking when you wrote this? None of this sheeyat is gonna happen. Did you forget to refill your Zoloft?

You’re talking to Saints fans here. Half of us have ‘just wait til next year’ tattooed on our ass.