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Saints Mid-Season Defensive & Special Teams Player Grades; Jabari Greer and Thomas Morstead awarded MVP

Below are the Grade Point Averages of each player that's played significant time in the New Orleans Saints' defense and special teams through the first eight games of the 2009 season, ordered from highest GPA to lowest:

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DEFENSE:

Jabari Greer 3.46 (8 graded games)

Roman Harper 3.25 (8 graded games)

Tracy Porter 3.25 (8 graded games)

Darren Sharper 3.21 (8 graded games)

Malcolm Jenkins 3.11 (3 graded games)

Randall Gay 3.00 (6 graded games)

Jonathan Vilma 2.96 (8 graded games)

Pierson Prioleau 2.84 (2 graded games)

Will Smith 2.79 (8 graded games)

Scott Shanle 2.79 (8 graded games)

Sedrick Ellis 2.78 (6 graded games)

Jo-Lonn Dunbar 2.78 (3 grades games)

Scott Fujita 2.75 (4 grades games)

DeMario Pressley 2.67 (1 graded game)

Marvin Mitchell 2.34 (2 graded games)

Charles Grant 2.29 (8 graded games)

Kendrick Clancy 2.17 (2 graded games)

Remi Ayodele 2.10 (6 graded games)

Bobby McCray 1.86 (7 graded games)

Troy Evans 1.67 (2 graded games)

 

SPECIAL TEAMS:

Thomas Morstead 3.08 (8 graded games)

Courtney Roby 2.71 (7 graded games)

John Carney 2.67 (8 graded games)

 

 

Below are the number of Defensive and Special Teams Player of the Game awards handed out in my Player Grades posts:

defense:

Darren Sharper 3

Will Smith 1

Roman Harper 1

Tracy Porter 1

Jonathan Vilma 1

Jabari Greer 1

special teams:

Thomas Morstead 2

Courtney Roby 2

Malcolm Jenkins 2

Robert Meachem 1

John Carney 1

 

Based on the numbers alone, I'm choosing Jabari Greer as the Mid-Season Defensive MVP. If Jahri Evans isn't a popular pick, then picking Greer over Darren Sharper should be even less of one. Keep in mind that while Sharper has had about 4 INCREDIBLE games and others that were pretty good, Greer has been steadily very good every single week. On special teams, I think Morstead getting the MVP is a no brainer. What do you think?

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Who Is Your Mid-Season Defensive MVP?
Jonathan VIlma
30 votes
Will Smith
14 votes
Darren Sharper
321 votes
Jabari Greer
54 votes
Roman Harper
8 votes

427 votes | Poll has closed

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I love Sharper, but gotta vote Greer

He’s such an improvement at the position over last year. Of course, Sharper is too, but Greer is playing almost like a “shut-down” corner. That one big play given up to Roddy White should have been flagged for offensive pass interference. If that wasn’t a push-off, what the hell is?

They’re both certainly worthy of the honor, but I gotta lean Greer. I still have Chasin’ David nightmares, so I’m more inclined to lean CB.

"I said this early on that this was a good football team, they just maybe had to have a stick put in certain parts of their body to play a little harder in certain places to where we’re able to take interceptions and score touchdowns."--Gregg Williams

by satchmo26 on Nov 11, 2009 5:30 PM CST reply actions  

I love Greer, but gotta vote Sharper

Sharper is the man who makes GW’s schemes work. He can play single safety effectively, allowing Roman Harper to become a stud strong safety, and allowing the corner blitzes that we use maybe more than any other team in the league. Without Sharper, none of that happens, and we go back to giving up a lot of yards AND a lot of points.

Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston

by MtnExile on Nov 11, 2009 5:33 PM CST reply actions  

My vote goes to Harper

Everytime it seems to me that a team lines up I look for where 41and 51 is, and everytime I see a int, some way or another Harper is on that QB’s ass.Either he’s alomst there or he causeing the fumble or hitting the QB so hard that all he has to do is run at him and the QB panicks. Even if he gets blocked the QBs are scared of him.Thats why we have the highest incomplition rateing.He single handly takes a QB out of his rythem on almost every pass play.He’s not spectacular on covering but he hasn’t let any reciver really hurt him Gonzles burnt him a couple times but not for any tds.He great at run D he wins my MVP he cause 90% percent of those int’s.

by darshiva420 on Nov 11, 2009 5:34 PM CST reply actions  

Toss-up, but I voted Greer

Sharper and Greer have almost identical contributions so far as I can remember. While Sharper has more picks, and far more pick-sixes, some of those were in garbage time, and Greer’s pick-six was a game-changer against Atlanta, just as Sharper’s one against Miami was. Both gave up one touchdown, and both have defended a handful of touchdown passes. Don’t know why I picked Greer over Sharper, really. They seem neck-and-neck, with Sharper having the statistical advantage on int’s, while Greer has the advantage on defensed passes. I guess he did seem the most consistent performer. Or maybe I like to be contrarian.

On a more important note, two defensive backs are vying for the Saints’ defensive MVP honors! What? That alone is worth mention. And Harper and Porter aren’t far behind, either.

What you have to do is to turn his little body over so that when he does get it, he lands on his head and he doesn’t come back in for a while." -- Gregg Williams on Steve Smith.

by FuSoYa on Nov 11, 2009 7:27 PM CST reply actions  

Sharper

For me, it’s between Sharper and Vilma and because of the game changing plays, I have to go Sharper. The reason I say it’s between those two is something you can’t see on a stat sheet. They are the coaches on the field. Sometimes GW will send in a play and it’s up to those two guys to get people in position for that play or change it all together. Greer has been WONDERFUL but I think we would see a bigger drop off if we lost Sharper or Vilma than we would if we lost Greer.

"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." --Mike Tyson

by vicvega26 on Nov 11, 2009 7:28 PM CST reply actions  

That's a good point.

I’d really hate to lose the generals. But Vilma’s had some ugly days. Greer has not.

What you have to do is to turn his little body over so that when he does get it, he lands on his head and he doesn’t come back in for a while." -- Gregg Williams on Steve Smith.

by FuSoYa on Nov 11, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Vilma has had some ugly days.

That definitely weighed in my decision to go with Sharper.

"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." --Mike Tyson

by vicvega26 on Nov 11, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong, Greer was a wonderful pickup. I’m delighted we have him. And he’s a huge part of why our secondary has made such a one-year turnaround.

But huge doesn’t not a majority — or even a minority most important — make. There’s a reason why Sharper is blowing the vote away. Because he makes the other guys around him better. Just like Drew does for his OL and his WRs and the rest of the offense, Sharper (together with Vilma) is a key cog that even without his game-changing plays would still be at least worth considering for MVP, and though he probably wouldn’t get it he might still deserve it anyway.

Of and by himself, Greer would have improved the secondary, but only his part of it. He’d be like Asmougha or Revis — (mostly) shutting down his part of the field, but having little effect on the rest of the field and as a result the rest of the D wouldn’t be as good as it is. Sharper has improved the entire secondary — and even the LBs to some degree — simply by his experience and ability to help make sure the other guys are doing their job right. And that’s why he’s MVP.

by FriarBob on Nov 11, 2009 8:03 PM CST reply actions  

gah… preview before post…

… huge does not a majority …

Double negatives suck. Unless you’re speaking Greek in which case they add emphasis. But we aren’t.

by FriarBob on Nov 11, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Morstead

so no debate there? Safe to assume we all agree he’s the man?

by Andrew Juge on Nov 11, 2009 8:38 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah

The only ones to compete on ST were Carney, Jenkins, and Roby, and none of them have been as consistent as Morstead. He hasn’t been 100% perfect, either, but far and away the most reliable part of the ST group. If only Jenkins could stay healthy…

What you have to do is to turn his little body over so that when he does get it, he lands on his head and he doesn’t come back in for a while." -- Gregg Williams on Steve Smith.

by FuSoYa on Nov 11, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

the belief ...

The D …
has been rock solid …
and seems to really play it’s best when the chips are down.

I think it all starts with Greg Williams and the veteran leadership shown by Vilma, Harper and future hall inductee, Darren Sharper,

Our stud corner/safety core have followed the lead and are amongst the best in the league and the defense in general has jumped into the new aggressive schema with both feet.

Without a doubt, there is still work to do before the defense rivals our league leading offense but the boys in the trenches have been as gritty as a course sandpaper and have contributed in ways that most would have thought to be impossible just 12 months ago.

Our D is no longer something to be laughed at, but a reliable and integral part of the team. The off season acquisitions and additions have been key but just as important is the belief and willingness to play within Williams’ system.

I love the confidence and dare I say borderline cockiness shown and I’m excited and for the first time in a long time, enjoy watching our guys fighting for the ball and better yet for a chance drop opposition QB’s for a loss. It’s something I’ve come to expect and something I believe the players expect of themselves.

They are an opportunistic crew and big plays …
game changing plays seem to be the norm and the success seems to be contagious with a spotlight big enough for all to share.

Without a doubt, I find it a far tougher choice to pick a Defensive MVP.

I can’t argue with Greer as he has been the picture of consistency but I do believe Darren Sharper and Tracy Porter to be key ingredients and as such a big reason why the number of long pass and catch plays are down in comparison to the last several years.

Hats off too to the D line and the guys who have filled in admirably for the banged up starters. I love what Greg Williams has done and I love how the plug and play players keep plugging along and getting the job done.

by gunning4_7 on Nov 11, 2009 9:23 PM CST reply actions  

Yes

Payton syas he may be back this week but im thinking next week against Tampa.No matter how bad their playing I think SEan will hold them cause its a bigger game for us

by darshiva420 on Nov 12, 2009 7:47 AM CST reply actions  

Our entire Secondary

deserves this award. They have been unreal all season.

by Nate W on Nov 12, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply actions  

Special Teams

what about Jenkins for Special teams? The only thing that I have against him is missing a few games. Morstead has played great too and I think that I’d give him the award too but Jenkins is a very very close second in my mind. Take the Atl game, the downed punt on the 2 where he had to come out of the endzone and get both feet touching the field before touching the ball, that was a huge play. Morstead made the punt but how many ppl do you think would’ve realized to get both feet back into play before touching the ball? I just looked at his stats and they say he has a fumble recovered but that’s it. I am pretty sure I saw him force 2 fumbles this season. Not to mention that he’s been huge in punt and kickoff coverage. The games where we really struggled on coverages, he was out. He’s been lights out for special teams and I think he deserves some mentioning for special teams. I agree with Greer though, he’s mostly been shutting down receivers.

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Nov 13, 2009 12:47 AM CST reply actions  

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