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New Orleans Saints 28 @ St. Louis Rams 23: The Regaissance

What an crap-filled game. NYSaint summed it all up when he texted me after the game and said, "I've never felt so awful after a win." If a tie is like kissing your sister then being taken down to the final play by the Rams is like a full-on make-out session with your grandmother. Add to that what looked like a serious injury to starting cornerback Tracy Porter and your grandfather might as well be in the room video taping the whole thing. If the Saints play this way against the Bucs next week, there's a good chance they'll lose. 

It wasn't all bad, of course. The Regessaince is in full effect and the Saints managed to stay perfect even without a few key players on defense. Still, now we realize just how important Darren Sharper and Jabari Greer really are to this defense. Watching Randall Gay in coverage was giving me Jason David flashbacks. 

Star-divide

Right into the bullets:

  • Usama Young got the start in place of Darren Sharper which initially had me a little worried. Turns out Usama has turned into quite the little Mini-Sharper. Young made a nice endzone interception and run back as well as at least one impressive crack on a Rams receiver. 
  • Steven Jackson is a beast. As expected, he ran (and caught) all over the Saints defense in the first half. Also as expected, the Saints defense made the necessary adjustments and were able to limit him in the second half. It also doesn't hurt that he's the Rams most used weapon and has just got to be spent by the third quarter. 
  • Even the "haters" have to agree...Bush looked good out there. I think it all started against Atlanta. Or maybe it was when he made that leaping touchdown in Miami. Either way, at some point something clicked for Reggie and he's finally adjusted his running style. He runs more aggressive, north/south, and unafraid of contact. It is incredibly noticeable and a breath of fresh air. That change had been evident the past three games and has now peaked with his performance today. I'm calling this dawning of a new Bush - The Regaissance
  • I don't have a clever catch phrase for the improvements we keep seeing in Robert Meachem but he's in the same boat. Glad to have him on this team and to see him contributing at such a high level.
  • Give it up to David Thomas who also had a great game. He's becoming a go-to-guy during key situations like third down. 
  • There were a few questionable game management situations by Payton. The run by Kyle Eckel on fourth down. The pass call on third down late in the game allowed the clock to stop for the Rams. 
  • Where do I start with Randall Gay. He's the new Jason David. Let's all hope Jabari Greer is healthy enough to return next week and Tracy Porter isn't done for the season. There is a serious drop-off without them in the lineup. Malcolm Jenkins' back did make a nice pass breakup at the end of the game however. 
  • Another less than stellar game from Drew. Two more interceptions give him a season total of nine and continues the current Saints trend of turning the ball over way too much. Ten turnovers in the last three games. It's got to stop. Also, the ball spike on third down wasn't a heads-up play.
  • It's about damn time Courtney Roby took a kickoff return to the house. We have been waiting since Michael Lewis in 2004 to see that happen and since the end of last year to see Roby actually do it. Certainly the spark the Saints needed to pull ahead at the start of the second half.
  • I'm on the DeMario Pressley train. He looked pretty good out there. 
  • Colston failed when he tried doing his best Reggie Bush impression by leaping and stretching over the goal line. Probably not the best decision in retrospect. Hopefully Colston is still suffering from the flu because he hasn't looked too hot the last couple of games. 
  • Still, a win is a win. Saints are undefeated. Hooray!
  • Be sure to watch the Colts-Patriots game tonight to find out if the Saints can become the only undefeated team remaining in the league. 
 

 

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Who was the Saints player of the game?
Reggie Bush
437 votes
Robert Meachem
13 votes
Roman Harper
9 votes
Courtney Roby
44 votes
Usama Young
11 votes
DeMario Pressley
4 votes
Scott Shanle
2 votes

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Sub par today – that last punt…. hmm…

Ubi maior minor cessat

by bondcrash on Nov 15, 2009 4:09 PM CST reply actions  

Tough vote.

I really wanted to vote for Reggie. I thought he played a helluva game. I still can’t figure out why we barely saw him in the second half, but I digress. I voted for Usama. I actually named him MVP when he made that interception, so I’m sticking with it. Without that interception, we may be looking at a very different result. But yes, Reggie was a beast and I was thrilled to see it!

Forget the nickel and dime, you'd better bring a half- dollar to deal with this team.--Tony Moss, NFL editor

by SaintsFan-KS on Nov 15, 2009 4:35 PM CST reply actions  

Without Courtney Roby's return

we are 24-21 losers.

You can look at that a couple of ways. First: that the Saints find a different way to win every week, and this week it was the turn of the special teams.

Or second: that the offense has been falling apart for weeks, and is now no longer good enough to win games for us. Three times in the fourth quarter we reached the opponents’ 35, and came away with nothing. I didn’t get to watch the game, so I don’t know exactly why things transpired this way…but it leaves me with a really bad feeling. I hope we’re not 9-0 on the way to 10-6.

Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston

by MtnExile on Nov 15, 2009 4:57 PM CST reply actions  

exactly

and that’s why i’m worried— we haven’t had serious injuries to our offense in the last few weeks, yet somehow our production has really gone downhill. against the rams i expected us to regain our offensive swagger. but we didn’t.

we played flat, brees made really stupid mistakes, and the playcalling was questionable at best. i don’t care that we’re missing defensive starters— we should still be able to put points up on one of the worst teams in the nfl.

by jful on Nov 15, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

So Porter is the starting quarterback?

No wonder the position has been looking so ackward.

by Just Some Guy on Nov 15, 2009 5:01 PM CST reply actions  

seriously that win felt like a loss in so many ways

don’t get me wrong, i’m psyched that we’re 9-0… but i really didn’t want to see the saints at 9-0 with a game like that.

by nanvinnie on Nov 15, 2009 5:25 PM CST reply actions  

exactly

this win is worse than if we would’ve lost to carolina or miami. It should’ve been a remake of the pats and titans game.

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Nov 15, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

and i'm going to go ahead and say it for tay

but reggie needed more touches in this game. when he’s playing well, 8 touches (6 carries, 2 catches) just isn’t enough. any time mr. wendys is the team’s leading receiver (5 catches) i think we can say our offense is misguided.

by jful on Nov 15, 2009 5:26 PM CST reply actions  

if the offense is doing well and moving the ball, I don’t care if we pull another beer distributor off the street to lead the team. But the offense sucked today. Where is Colston?

Reggie needs more touches in the passing game. I hope they don’t try to run him up the middle anymore. He’s too valuable on the outside and pounding he takes up the middle is not worth it for doing anything more than creating a decoy pattern for getting him outside.

by xen-cuts on Nov 15, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Sean Payton needs to be taken out to the wood shed

That was the worst 2nd half play calling I’ve seen from him since he took over in 2006. 3rd and 2 with 2.5 minutes left, and he calls a passing play? When he has a RB averaging almost 14 ypc? Fuggin stupid is as stupid does.

by HB-NOLA on Nov 15, 2009 5:33 PM CST reply actions  

Yes a ...

Yes a win …
but hardly a vote of confidence!!!

I think more important than going undefeated the remainder of the season …
is the need to put an emphasis on getting back to the basics and cleaning up the mistakes, primarily on the offensive side of the ball.

There is no way in H-E_ _ double hockey sticks that we could possibly beat either New England or Dallas playing this way. I’d be surprised if we could beat some of our lesser opponents playing as we have.

It’s certainly gut check time for the D and coach Williams, the walking wounded and the replacements. I think it’s worth mentioning the solid play of Demario Pressley and Usama Young!!! Bright spots for sure, as was the usual consistent play from Wilma and Harper. Great too to have Fujita back in the mix.

While Drew was less than great and Marcus obviously still not 100%, I was pleased with Meachem’s continue improvement and by Reggie’s resurgence. 25 was a lightening rod and I couldn’t help to think that coach Payton may have been struck by lightening or suffered a rare brain cramp!!!

I mean WTF … Bush scampers for 83 yards on 6 carries and you shut him down for the second half??? I pray to god, he is not injured and that his role continues to become more defined and prevalent in weeks to come.

He is without a doubt the most gifted athlete on our team …
but again just a part of our team.

As a team we have to protect the ball and find a way to keep plugging away on D while waiting for our key starters to return!!

Hoping, as I’m sure you all are that Porter’s injury is not season ending …
but it didn’t look good!

by gunning4_7 on Nov 15, 2009 6:14 PM CST reply actions  

A win gets us to 9-0, but the M.A.S.H. unit from New Orleans looked beatable again. With the Falcons’ loss today, the Saints are now up a whopping four games in the NFC South with seven games remaining. The Cowboys are on their way to a pitiful loss which would give them three for the season. So, here’s the thing: Not only are the Saints in the playoffs, but likely have done enough already to warrant a bye week. With the injury list growing in concert with the bullseye on our backs, maybe we should stop trying so hard for 16-0 and instead worry about being healthy and solid for a Super Bowl run?

I mean, what’s the biggest contrast between this year and last year’s teams? Defense, right? Hmm…defense shredded with injuries…team goes from dominating to above-average in a hurry. I say keep Greer and Sharper out for a good, long while. If Fujita needs more time off, give it to him. I’d rather be 17-2 with a Super Bowl ring than 16-1 and disappointment.

Heart, Max Talbot has it by the mile. The Pens are your 2008-2009 Stanley Cup Champions.

by Malsby on Nov 15, 2009 6:21 PM CST reply actions  

Whoa, Too much Negitivity here

I just think a few bumps and bruises along with the pressure of a 8-0 start (Now 9-0) and the fact that the Rams may be the best 1-8 I have ever seen. Then take into account they just came off a bye week. There are no easy games in the NFL. All the games from here on out will be tough but I am a true Saint fan….Win or Lose.

by saint-sly on Nov 15, 2009 6:50 PM CST reply actions  

I agree way too much negitivity, I mean it hasn't been pretty.

Seriously don’t think this team can tank the next 6 out of 7 games. We might lose a couple, but some people are acting like we already lost the superbowl.

by rustdog74 on Nov 15, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

A true Saints fan

Loyal to the end, and blind as a bat.

The Rams are far from the best 1-8 team ever. They’ve averaged 10 points a game. They barely managed to beat Detroit, needing a trick play to do so. And they came within an ace of defeating New Orleans—not because they are actually pretty good, but because…

Well, I don’t know the answer. Are the Saints really a great team? Or were they a great team?

There’s no doubt in my mind which was the best team of the first half of the NFL season. But the Super Bowl crowns the best team of the second half, and that’s what I want. And that’s why I don’t feel comfortable right now.

End of commentary. We now return you to your regularly scheduled party.

Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston

by MtnExile on Nov 15, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Not the best team right now.

I’m not even convinced we’ve had the best team in the past few games.

I’d vote NE, Vikes, Colts as all being better than us. I’ll be surprised if Carolina doesn’t hand us a loss in the next outing.

by xen-cuts on Nov 15, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

They are The BEST TEAM IN THE NFC

The only UNDEFEATED team in NFC South and the NFC conference. It’s not by coincidence and they did not stumble into the position. They have played their tails off to get this far. Saints also have three game cushion in the division. What else do ya’ll expect ????

by saint-sly on Nov 16, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

What a disgusting display!

If they play like that in Tampa, they will lose. Ever since Miami, the Saints have looked progressively worse. I hope this was the low point and they start pulling it together this week. This victory does seem tainted.

Porter injured his ACL, so I hope it isn’t the season-ending kind. Let’s hope he can return before the playoffs. My guess is he’s out at least four weeks and maybe for the year. He had his head in his hands as they carted him off. That’s never a good sign.

The wheels didn’t fall off today, but they sure seemed wobbly. Still, a win is a win.

"I said this early on that this was a good football team, they just maybe had to have a stick put in certain parts of their body to play a little harder in certain places to where we’re able to take interceptions and score touchdowns."--Gregg Williams

by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 15, 2009 7:02 PM CST reply actions  

If it's ACL

he’s done for the year and we have to start hoping he’ll come back and contribute next year. I’m already dreaming of drafting another corner this summer…

by xen-cuts on Nov 15, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

This wasn't our best win, but come on Saints Fan.

This is not a great win, but serious every team in the NFL hasn’t look all that good this year. We lost games like this the last two years, but we are winning. I think Brees need to clean up on the int., payton gets too cute with play callling at times, the defense need to clean up on the rush defense, but all in all I’m happy.

by rustdog74 on Nov 15, 2009 7:09 PM CST reply actions  

What a terrible game.

I’d rather have sat all our starters and not had Porter injured. He is too good to lose. We are still in need of another good cornerback. So here’s to hoping that Jenkins can get his back closer to a receiver next time. With Gay doing terribly, Jenkins is our next hope.

What is the deal with Colston?

Payton has been mismanaging games all year. Today it almost came back and bit him in the rear.

These last few games are making me believe in my nightmare scenario: the Saints dominate a bunch of crappy teams in the regular season and then do poorly in the playoffs. I guess if someone has to beat us, it might as well be the out of conference New Englanders. But I’m genuinely concerned that we are so mistake prone, so inefficient, and again unable to really close out games effectively on offense. The offense has been leaning on the defense too much and now players are getting injured. The offense really needs to step up and dominate the time of possession in a more efficient fashion.

So frustrated. I feel like we’ve lost every game since playing the Giants.

by xen-cuts on Nov 15, 2009 7:45 PM CST reply actions  

bunch of whiners...

You guys need to reset your expectations. We’re not going to blow out every team.

by TigerPaw on Nov 15, 2009 7:52 PM CST reply actions  

Well, there’s a difference between blowing teams out and being one play away from losing to the Rams. I’m excited that they’re 9-0, don’t get me wrong. Just the thought of being a bye-week team and having a real shot at a Super Bowl is amazing. Between the injuries and the sloppy play though, I’m starting to wonder if this team is fading a bit.

Heart, Max Talbot has it by the mile. The Pens are your 2008-2009 Stanley Cup Champions.

by Malsby on Nov 15, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

one play away from loseing?

Are you serious that one play was 32 yards and was covered by five DB’s

by darshiva420 on Nov 15, 2009 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m not saying it was a high percentage play…still, a crappy bounce or a penalty and who knows. But yes, the Saints were one play away from losing. It wasn’t that dissimilar from the Favre play that beat San Francisco earlier in the year. Might have even been a shorter distance.

Heart, Max Talbot has it by the mile. The Pens are your 2008-2009 Stanley Cup Champions.

by Malsby on Nov 15, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

tell that to all the fans

that’ve watched a hail mary win the game for them. or just ask that to the team that took on Flutie’s Boston College team where the hail mary with no time left won them the game and they had 7 guys there. It’s not over till it’s over. It was one play from losing.

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Nov 15, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

still

Most teams and especialy against us would have been down at the 5 and threw it in
happened to us evertime i’ll take that desperation hailmary anyday

by darshiva420 on Nov 15, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't expect us to blow out every team--I expect us to blow out BAD teams

And when we can’t do that, I get nervous.

I bet Payton does, too. Does that make him a whiner?

Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston

by MtnExile on Nov 15, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions  

feeling philosophical

a few thoughts:

  1. I said it during the game, but sloppy, sloppy sloppy. Turnovers and penalties have got to get locked down. That’s why this was a game. Colston doesn’t fumble and we’re not popping zantac with 30 seconds left.
  2. My boy David Thomas looked good today, huh?
  3. I generally defend Payton, but he did make some inexplicable decisions today. Not least of which was benching Bush for the last 15 minutes. Bush was running with the kind of purpose we’ve been asking for, so we reward him by … putting in Bell (who had an uninspiring effort).
  4. Brees wasn’t good today, which was a big part of our issues. He made some bad decisions and missed some throws that he usually makes. I have to believe that won’t last.
  5. G-dub is the FRICKING MAN. Playing with no Ellis, 1/4 of our secondary and Gay looking like Fred Thomas and Jason David rolled into one, he found a way to stifle the rams O in the second half. I think we’ll have to start giving serious consideration to who we hire to replace him next year when he gets a HC job.
  6. We’re in a slump, no doubt about it. We were flying high for the first 4-5 weeks and we’ve slid. In previous incarnations of the Saints, this would signal the beginning of a season long swoon. I do not believe that this is one of those teams. I think this team is different. Despite our struggles, we are 9-0. The good news is that we’re slumping now and not in late December. That gives us time to get healthy and right the ship for the stretch run. I’d much rather lose 2 ganes in the next 5 weeks, than lose in the 1st round of the playoffs.

by SaintBevo on Nov 15, 2009 8:30 PM CST reply actions  

I hope you're right

Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston

by MtnExile on Nov 15, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

feeling philosophical

a few thoughts:

  1. I said it during the game, but sloppy, sloppy sloppy. Turnovers and penalties have got to get locked down. That’s why this was a game. Colston doesn’t fumble and we’re not popping zantac with 30 seconds left.
  2. My boy David Thomas looked good today, huh?
  3. I generally defend Payton, but he did make some inexplicable decisions today. Not least of which was benching Bush for the last 15 minutes. Bush was running with the kind of purpose we’ve been asking for, so we reward him by … putting in Bell (who had an uninspiring effort).
  4. Brees wasn’t good today, which was a big part of our issues. He made some bad decisions and missed some throws that he usually makes. I have to believe that won’t last.
  5. G-dub is the FRICKING MAN. Playing with no Ellis, 1/4 of our secondary and Gay looking like Fred Thomas and Jason David rolled into one, he found a way to stifle the rams O in the second half. I think we’ll have to start giving serious consideration to who we hire to replace him next year when he gets a HC job.
  6. We’re in a slump, no doubt about it. We were flying high for the first 4-5 weeks and we’ve slid. In previous incarnations of the Saints, this would signal the beginning of a season long swoon. I do not believe that this is one of those teams. I think this team is different. Despite our struggles, we are 9-0. The good news is that we’re slumping now and not in late December. That gives us time to get healthy and right the ship for the stretch run. I’d much rather lose 2 ganes in the next 5 weeks, than lose in the 1st round of the playoffs.

by SaintBevo on Nov 15, 2009 8:31 PM CST reply actions  

I still hope you're right

…about the slump, that is. Better now than in the playoffs. But I wonder if being 9-0 is giving the team a false sense of security. “It can’t be that bad, we’re undefeated!” Well, continue to play this way and we might not even win the division. Against New England, Dallas, Carolina, Atlanta, maybe even Washington, we lose playing the way we did today.

Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston

by MtnExile on Nov 15, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Come on…we’re not losing the division.
Atlanta is next closest at 5-4 and they looked bad against Carolina today. Also, Turner is out for a while with a high-ankle sprain, so…we’re division champs already.

Dallas played like garbage today, so, not so worried about them at the moment. Washington beat a failing Denver team, so who cares…Tampa is showing signs of life, which sucks for us. Still, our remaining schedule isn’t THAT bad. Pats look very, very good right now though.

Heart, Max Talbot has it by the mile. The Pens are your 2008-2009 Stanley Cup Champions.

by Malsby on Nov 15, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

not worried about locking up the division

that’s almost guaranteed. Homefield advantage is what I think everyone’s concern is.

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Nov 15, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll take a Super Bowl win the same way

Can’t always get the style points ya’ll want but a win is a win. Had Peyton pulled a play like the "Hoodie"" ,we all would be freaking out. They lost and we won. What else do you want. Championship teams find a way to win……………..Saints found a way to win. Damn, ya’ll are driving me crazy with all the whining………………..

by saint-sly on Nov 16, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Bush did the most

Usama int won us the game by 7
Roby won us the game by 7
Bush however blocked great gots us 14 and would have set up another 7 if colston doesn’t fumble he won this game the others just helped out.

Everyone lighten up we just beat a pro football team with a second string secondary.
Greg williams balls sriveled up and caused half those plays putting no pressure on Bulger regardless of game plan he had all day.
We ran for over 200 yards,once again we fix turnovers and where unstoppable,this defense deserves alot of credit they where on the feild along time with a brutal running back pounding them.This was oppasite this was strong win against a fresh pumped up team at home.
We have not relunquished a lead all season not one time was this team wining so cheer up where 9-0 the cowboys lost,Indy getting its ass kicked before half time and where four game ahead in our division 4 games away from garanteed second seed in the palyoffs

by darshiva420 on Nov 15, 2009 9:01 PM CST reply actions  

Everyone seems to forget...

… the dome they were playing in wasn’t ours, it was the other team’s. Yeah, we made some mistakes, but the Rams were giving everything they had and we still won. Steven Jackson is arguably the best RB in the league. The guy was phenomenal to watch, yet we still found a way to shut him down in the second half for the most part.

This was a road win, not pretty, but a good, hard-fought game by both teams.

I was scratching my head a bit when Bulger was obviously sacked on their first series and Payton didn’t throw the red flag. Why he was going soft on the Rams is anyone’s guess, but I think the reason the game was close was mostly his fault.

And we must remember, too, that our early season blowouts were due the fact that we were fresh out of the box. Now that some tape has accumulated on our offense, we can expect that teams are going to know a lot better how to play us. Let’s just hope Payton can stay ahead of the curve.

The only thing worse than losing is not winning.

by Tigernut on Nov 15, 2009 9:18 PM CST reply actions  

How about Bush?

He played phenomenal. PT and Bell averaged about 3.6 yards between the two of them. Bell got the nod in the 4th quarter. I think PT got a few plays and Bush got 0. Bush was sitting there, waiting for his oppurtunity to go back into the game. It didn’t come. Bush looked dejected in the 4th quarter. Can you blame him though? Give your best rusher for the day the ball. Reggie is running with a purpose and Payton is wasting that. Brees looked ok. Better than the past couple games but not by much. We are turning the ball over way too much right now. Gay has got to be yanked as the nickel. How is that not apparent? Jenkins has shown some promise and I know you didn’t get him with our first pick to just let him sit the bench alot. He should’ve been our nickel to begin with. Gay just doesn’t cut it. How bout Usama???? He played a helluva game! A big pick that was very Sharperesque and quite a few big hits that were very Harper like. I think we found our future safety. Crappy game. I just didn’t feel into it untill about 5 minutes before halftime. Maybe that’s because I woke up late. Anyways, lots to improve upon. We all know a win is a win but it’s not always as cut and dry as that. We win sloppy and against alot of teams, we lose that game. Payton’s playcalling has got to be better. I don’t mind throwing on 3rd down but make it a better route to throw to. like a screen or PA pass. Also, Eckel on 4th? Seriously? Bell or whoever the RB was would’ve had it on the pitch to the outside too, imo. Hope Porter isn’t out for the season but I see ppl throwing out ACL. Move Jenkins to the #2 spot in his place. Sure, he’ll make some mistakes b/c he’s a rookie but better than a vet getting beat like Gay has been.

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Nov 15, 2009 9:26 PM CST reply actions  

Correct all around sk

0 plays for Reg. but I thought I heard his ankle was an issue not serious, just kept out. And screens for sure w/ 3& 3or 4 deep in they’re terr. Brees threw the lazy pass to PT, got knocked down, he used to throw that “jump” pass it would’ve worked that time. PT would end up w/ a 1st down,or more and we could’ve Iced the game earlier. Outside was open on run plays also, their D was solid up the middle, but late in the game, their D was exploitable on the edge. Thats on Payton, and Gay can’t start,rather see Jenkins Gay is going to play but I’d rather see a rookie get beat than a vet. And lets say Rams were up for us, nothings easy thats why they play the games.

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Nov 15, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

his ankle huh?

he did take a cheap shot but didn’t get up limping and i think he took a punt return after that too…

Don't worry I got your back cuz...

by TAYDIGGA on Nov 16, 2009 12:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Scary game

Turnovers, a running game/play calling that failed to close the game out easily for us, and injuries. GREAT TEAMS either don’t have these things happen in the first place, or ride them out/overcome them when they do. Time will tell if we are a GREAT TEAM, or just lucky or good for part of the season.

But, we’re 9-0 and just maybe these things will get cleaned up.

It must be noted that Payton held himself in check and did not challenge Colston’s goal-line fumble…that’s worth something, isn’t it?

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

by HansDat on Nov 15, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions  

another thing...after reading Stu's post, and feeling bad about our secondary's performance today

when I read Dave’s headline, I took it as meaning

The Re- “GAAAAA!!!!”-aissance (GAAAA!!! was typed and screamed many times last season as our secondary gave up big play after big play), not the REGGIE BUSH “Reg”-aissance.

Bush had an awesome game – nice work, Reg!

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

by HansDat on Nov 15, 2009 10:44 PM CST reply actions  

HansDat

thought we might end up only Undef. team Colts just pulled one out their rear end….wow!

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Nov 15, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

That ending was shocking…

I mean, it makes me feel good that the Pats can not only look sluggish in crunch time but that Belicheck can lose his mind and go for it on 4th down with a 6 pt lead on his own 20 with 2 mins to go.

Heart, Max Talbot has it by the mile. The Pens are your 2008-2009 Stanley Cup Champions.

by Malsby on Nov 15, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup

I can’t believe that game ended how it did…

Maybe Ballsicheck will try that against us in a few weeks and we can stuff them again!

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

by HansDat on Nov 16, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Un-Belichick like

don’t feel as mad as I was about Shawn Payton earlier, Belichick wasted a pair of time outs also

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Nov 15, 2009 11:09 PM CST reply actions  

Right time...

…to get into a slump. They will fix the mistakes. Injuries are another matter but lets see, and they will adjust to those too

A win is a win… Stop whining… it looks some of you guys are more worried we slip in the rankings than anything else. I bet it is the same guys who were calling a blowout in the poll the other day. What is it… if it is not by 20 points you dont like your win… You are pathetic…

Ubi maior minor cessat

by bondcrash on Nov 16, 2009 1:54 AM CST reply actions  

It's not about whining

and being happy only that we escaped with a win seems to be more concerned about how we “rank” than our actual performance.

I don’t think it’s pathetic at all to be concerned with how we played against the WORST TEAM IN FOOTBALL. The Rams have won one game in the past 18—against the Lions. AND they needed a trick play to do that. But somehow they drop 23 points on us? How can a real fan NOT be concerned about that?

Injuries are at the heart of the issue with regard to the defense (and I think that’s why we’ve struggled these last few games), but there haven’t been any serious injuries to our offense that explain why, say, we’ve committed 10 turnovers in 3 games. Of course I’m glad we’re finding ways to win games despite these mistakes, but to say that you can write off all these mounting problems as something that we “will fix” is naive at best.

Don’t get me wrong— i’m glad we’re 9-0, but did anyone expect us to lose this game? I can’t say I’m excited that we barely got out of St Louis with a win.

by jful on Nov 16, 2009 8:22 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Very well put.

Forget the nickel and dime, you'd better bring a half- dollar to deal with this team.--Tony Moss, NFL editor

by SaintsFan-KS on Nov 16, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Any Saints fans left?

Last three weeks seems full of saint-doubters, reggie-haters, peyton-pickers, second-guessers, armchair-Qb worry warts. Who expects to blow out every team. The Saints are not J.Curtis Ju. Col. against a league of La HS JV teams. It is the NFL. I will take the ugliest W over a well played heartbreaking L anyday. No if ands or buts. 9 and 0, HELLO! Sorry saintsational and MtnExile, luv you guys, but its become too “causiously pessimistic” for this fan. Strive for perfection, but don’t expect it. It’s a let down.

by #9-alltime on Nov 16, 2009 8:52 AM CST reply actions  

If they aint winning by fourty

Is’s panic time ? They are winning so stop whining.

by saint-sly on Nov 16, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

You haven't written your obligatory weekly update on Reg-Watch '09 yet. ;-)

"I don’t know if there’s a good time to play the New Orleans Saints this year to be quite honest with you."-Steve Spagnuolo

by FuSoYa on Nov 16, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

it's coming tonite!!!!

Don't worry I got your back cuz...

by TAYDIGGA on Nov 16, 2009 6:08 PM CST reply actions  

How would we be responding if the last four games (Miami, Atlanta, Carolina, St. Louis)

Had actually been our first four games, and then we got on a roll and did our 5-game power wins to take us into week 11?

Would we feel any better about our team’s playoff/super bowl hopes?

Should it make a difference?

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

by HansDat on Nov 16, 2009 8:21 PM CST reply actions  

where's coldpizza?

Don't worry I got your back cuz...

by TAYDIGGA on Nov 18, 2009 1:30 AM CST reply actions  

Just Chill

Good lord, folks. Take a deep breath. Our defense was hurting coming into the game. Without Ellis and Sharper, you expected the defense to operate in the same manner as it had coming in? I was not the least bit surprised by Steven Jackson’s success, and the resulting moderate success of the Rams entire offense. It was a decent win considering all the mistakes, and players that needed to step up while others struggled did so. Greg Williams will adjust to the personnel he has available and right the ship. I think the past 2 months would’ve earned these guys a little more trust. Don’t try to disguise pessimism with realism. This is uncharted waters for a lot of Saints fans, but as they say, “act like you’ve been here before.” Struggles don’t mean inevitable doom. Guess people jump ship as fast as they hop bandwagons.

by Jimbo03 on Nov 18, 2009 2:09 PM CST reply actions  

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