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New Orleans Saints' Defensive and Special Teams Player Grades vs. Falcons


Below are the grades for the defensive and special team players.

Falcons vs Saints boxscore

Falcons vs Saints recap

Will Smith: A- (2.72) He was awesome and this was arguably his best game of the season. Smith was a constant menace to the Atlanta passing game, repeatedly beating his man around the edge to apply pressure. He finished with 4 tackles, 2 sacks, a defended pass and induced a holding penalty when he was clearly headed for a sack. Honestly, I felt like holding calls could have been made against Smith at least 3 other times. The "defended pass", by the way, was originally ruled a sack and forced fumble, but reviewed and changed to an incomplete pass. He was helpful at times in run support, but that area of his game was perfectible.

Charles Grant: D+ (2.19) Forgettable performance from Grant who was invisible for the majority of the night. Several of Michael Turner's big runs came off his edge. He did a poor job rushing the passer and was largely neutralized. He finished with 3 tackles.

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Bobby McCray: D+ (1.95) The only redeeming value in this performance for McCray is that he showed decent pressure on Atlanta's final 2 drives. Other than that, he recorded no tackles and had another very quiet game. Time for him to step up and make a play, already.

Anthony Hargrove: C (2.33) Hargrove was decent rushing the passer and bad against the run. He finished with 4 tackles, a sack and laid a devastating hit on Matt Ryan as he released the final pass intercepted by Sharper. The Falcons ran the ball several times right at Hargrove and his size limitation showed. He was pushed around at the point of attack and made it obvious the Saints miss Sedrick Ellis on running plays.

Remi Ayodele: D- (2.06) Ayodele had just one tackle despite playing a significant amount of time in the game. He was manhandled by the Falcons' big line, and allowed Turner to escape his grasp several times. He looked slow and confused in many different sets. By far his worse game of the season. Run defense is supposed to be his specialty, but Michael Turner was allowed to run free and hurt the Saints defense immensely. Very poor performance from Ayodele.

Kendrick Clancy: C- (2.17) Clancy showed good pressure once on a passing play, and got involved a couple of times in run support. He seemed to push the pile with average results when he was in. Overall he didn't get much action in the game. Maybe he was a little rusty, but it seems clear to me he's a better option right now than Ayodele. Just 1 tackle on the day for the backup tackle.

Scott Shanle: D (2.81) By far Shanle's worst game of the season. He's been so solid and sound each and every week, it was a big surprise to see him struggle. He registered his very first tackle very late in the 3rd quarter, falling on top of a stumbling Tony Gonzalez downfield. He ended the game with 3 tackles. In the passing game he was stiff and missed a couple opportunities to deflect passes. He was a step slow getting to his assignments and he was pushed around in run support. He was useless against Michael Turner's runs. It seemed like anytime there was an opportunity for Shanle to make a play, a blocker would wipe him out contention. He did not absorb hits the way he usually does.

Jonathan Vilma: B- (2.91) Vilma finished with 6 tackles and was active. He was one of the few players that got involved in trying to slow down Michael Turner. That said, he over-pursued on at least three plays inside, allowing Turner to bounce out wide and gain big yardage. He was not dominant like he was at Miami, and got push around from time to time. His grade would be worse, but he came up with one of the biggest plays of the game tipping a Matt Ryan pass that went into the hands of Tracy Porter for an interception. At that point Atlanta was in scoring position down 24-28, so Vilma came up with a big play at the most crucial of times.

Marvin Mitchell: C- (2.34) Marvin made two critical mistakes early that could have landed him an F grade. First he got beat severely by Gonzalez on a passing route, falling down to allow the hall of fame to be tight end to get yardage after the catch. Later, he jumped offsides on a big 3rd and 4 to give Atlanta the automatic first down. Some of you may have noticed Payton going over to him and letting him know that was twice (showing the number two with his fingers) Mitchell had screwed up and hurt the team. After that, though, he came back to make a terrific open field tackle on a punt return, and he helped in run support. He finished with 3 tackles.

Jabari Greer: B (3.52) Greer was tough as usual. He was assigned to Roddy White all day and defended many passes. He came up with a game turning interception which he ran back 48 yards for a touchdown before halftime. He did give up a 68 yard bomb to White, though, later in the game to get the Falcons back in it. On that play it looked to me like he was pushed in the back and the coverage overall was actually pretty good, so while he got beat it wasn't egregious. Later, White almost had another touchdown which would have tied the game, but a review showed the pass hit the turf. Not only was Greer beat there, but he could've been flagged for pass interference. White had just 4 catches, but they went for 108 yards and a TD. Overall it was a tough player to guard for Greer, but Jabari handled it pretty well and made a huge play. He finished with 6 tackles.

Tracy Porter: A (3.24) Porter looked fantastic tackling and was very solid in pass defense. His crucial interception with the Falcons driving down 24-28 was one of the biggest plays of the Saints' young season. Despite his limited size he was aggressive in helping his teammates bring down both Michael Turner and Tony Gonzalez. He made no real mistakes in the game, and he finished with 6 tackles.

Randall Gay: B- (3.00) Gay had 3 tackles and had pretty good coverage on Tony Gonzalez on occasion. He helped his teammates and didn't make any major mistakes.

Roman Harper: B+ (3.19) A solid performance overall from Harper. He was in the box and he was the only one that didn't seem scared to hit Michael Turner. He was all over the field and finished with 8 tackles. His grade could've been better, but he was bullied by Tony Gonzalez on passing plays, and he over-pursued like Vilma at times allowing Turner to bounce outside. The one play that really disappointed me was when he watched Turner get stacked up by about 4 Saints players, and instead of piling on and bringing the runner down - he saw Turner break free of the pile for a big gain. He needs to stay aggressive through the whistle, but overall he had a good game and didn't make major errors against the pass like he sometimes does.

Darren Sharper: B- (3.19) Sharper had a horrendous angle on the first touchdown run by Michael Turner. As good as he can be at times, let's not fool ourselves into thinking this guy doesn't have limitations too. He's definitely lost a step from his heyday. He's still a major upgrade over past free safeties regardless. He finished with 4 tackles, a dropped interception, an interception on a desperate hail mary pass, and a blitz where he pummeled Matt Ryan and caused a big incompletion on 3rd down. Still, his tackling wasn't always great and he was bullied by Michael Turner downfield with stiff arms. All of that aside, 7 interceptions in 7 games is just RIDICULOUS.

Jo-Lonn Dunbar: B- (2.50) Dunbar was great at times, and mediocre at others. He was extremely aggressive against the run and very active. Sometimes it got him in trouble, and other times he made good plays. He finished with 4 tackles. If Fujita misses another game, I think I prefer Dunbar over Evans at linebacker. He may make some mistakes due to lack of experience, but his hustle and fierce effort is refreshing. Evans may contain better, but he just doesn't have the athleticism or skill of Dunbar.

John Carney: D+ (2.52) He made 5 extra points, though two were just inside the upright and a little close for comfort. His only real "test" was to hit a simple 37 yard kick and he let the Falcons back in the game by missing it. I wonder if Garrett Hartley may get a harder look after that miss?

Thomas Morstead: C+ (3.09) Morstead got less depth on his kickoffs than usual. Most of them fell either a yard deep or inside the 5. He punted twice with a 44.5 yard average and got good height on his punts. The coverage did an ok job of bailing him out, but it wasn't his best game.

Courtney Roby: B (2.72) Roby didn't get many chances early because of the depth of the kickoffs by Atlanta, but I was impressed that he showed intelligence and restraint in downing each of them. It's good that he didn't force what wasn't there. When he did return kicks, he showed good burst and speed. He averaged 29.3 yards on 3 returns, and had a long of 35 yards. He gave the Saints decent field position when he could. He also had a tackle on coverage.

Defensive Player of the Game: Tracy Porter
Special Teams Player of the Game: Courtney Roby
Poll
Who Was Your Pick for Defensive Player of the Game?
Jabari Greer
110 votes
Tracy Porter
79 votes
Jonathan Vilma
31 votes
Will Smith
186 votes

406 votes | Poll has closed

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agree with most of the grades

but i thought during the game that grant was held on a few plays; i’m going to rewatch it to see if that was just in the excitement of watching it live (and the bias of being a fan), but t really seemed like their RT (clabo, i think?) should’ve been flagged a few times.

also marvin mitchell does not deserve a C-. the only “good” play he made was the punt return tackle, but he’s a special teams guy—that should be expected. it’s not really a big play, and it certainly doesn’t redeem his huge mistakes earlier in the game. i was very disappointed with him.

and i have to say, i like dunbar too—he’s constantly improving and could develop into a really quality LB if he keeps it up.

by jful on Nov 4, 2009 1:37 PM CST reply actions  

oh and one more thing

will smith should gets points off for his incessant need to celebrate EVERY TIME he makes a play. good performance, but come on. it’s as though he can’t help himself from—ready for this?—gettin’ jiggy wit it.

by jful on Nov 4, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

wow

I hope Smith CELEBRATES till he “just can’t get jiggy no mo”. It was really great to watch his effort Sunday.

A SAINT in Panther country

by carolinasaintsfan on Nov 4, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

OLBs

The play of the OLBs concerned me as time and again Turner was able to break runs to the outside and get big gains. A few teams remain on the schedule with the ability and RBs to exploit that – Carolina, Dallas, Atlanta again. Most notably, the possibility of an effort like that against the vikes and Adrian Peterson should be keeping G-dub up late at night. Hopefully we can get that corrected and Fujita comes back soon.

by SaintBevo on Nov 4, 2009 4:55 PM CST reply actions  

Well… it’s not exactly guaranteed we’ll ever face Peterson… and if we do, it will be long after Fujita and Ellis get healthy… at least from their current injuries.

by FriarBob on Nov 4, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Like Fujita is any better at outside containment.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Nov 5, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

all i want

for xmas is a set of defensive tackles for our saints

by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 4, 2009 5:55 PM CST reply actions  

I’m not so sure about Mitchell’s offsides. Replay clearly shows the ball was already in motion before he entered the neutral zone.

Granted, even when they’re wrong you have to live with the ref’s calls, but I’m not sure that was his fault.

by FriarBob on Nov 4, 2009 7:03 PM CST reply actions  

I noticed that- it was a bad call

I replayed it 5 times in slow motion and , although Mitchell was MOVING before the snap, he was not OFFIDES before the snap. You are allowed to move as a defensive player pre-snap and his timing was perfect, but game the impression of a violation when it wasn’t. Tough call for the referee, but they should do a better job. The officiating is weak in the NFL. Need younger refs.

"Indecision may or may not be my biggest problem" - Jimmy Buffett

by Philinwood on Nov 5, 2009 6:01 AM CST up reply actions  

scattershooting

while wondering whatever happened to Bobby McCray???

Being a Saints fan will take years off your life

by MobileSaint on Nov 4, 2009 8:44 PM CST reply actions  

What do you mean? He recovered a fumble late in the game Monday night, that replay wound up reversing. You don’t hear his name much, because he’s not starting. Smith and Grant were never suspended, so his opportunities to make plays have been limited.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Nov 5, 2009 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I mean

the guy has 6 tackles and 1 sack on the season and hasn’t been nearly the factor he was on passing downs last year. For a guy who most thought (incuding me) would completely supplant Charles Grant at the DE position, he’s got almost no production. Meaning he fits right in with the 2008 starting DEs. Maybe he has a sports hernia?

Being a Saints fan will take years off your life

by MobileSaint on Nov 5, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Defense

I dont care if Smith celebrates after a sack it makes things fun on PRIME TIME! Sharper can loose 2 steps and still be better than Bullocks………COME ON MAN!! Mistakes are part of the game………We rebounded and smacked em in the mouth.

Carolina is no joke in the running game……….Thats a Fact!!

I will be posting more and more on here…..Yahoo message board is slow…

by Saintsfan4life on Nov 4, 2009 9:03 PM CST reply actions  

I will play Devil's Advocate a little bit here

and tell you why the Defensive Marks should be a little higher.

- With Fujita and Ellis out (who are a HUGE PART of our run defense) I think you have to be a little lenient until the new
        defensive unit gels together. The most important issue when you add new substitute personnel is… to win the
         game. They did that. Mitchell, Hargrove and other non-starters will adapt with experience as will the starters such
         as Shanle, Vilma, etc but it takes some time. That said, can’t wait for Ellis and Fujita to come back, but the defense got
          the job done.
- Defense only gave up 2 TDs to a good team. I think any defense that holds a good team to only 2 TDs in 60
      minutes did their job well.
- Our offense was not totally in sync, especially in the second half. Like really out of sync. That hurts a defense
       for multiple reasons I won’t go through here. The loss of H Evans is huge, we will overcome it, but it may have
        hurt the offense more than we realize for that one game and thus the defense also was impacted.
- We held their offense to a lower gain per play than our offense obtained. That’s a good stat especially because our
         offense did not have a good day.
- We forced 3 interceptions and had 3 sacks. There was pressure on Ryan which I assume was the game plan vs
        a young inexperienced QB and I think a good plan. As such, something had to give a little which was the rushing
        defense. It was a “bend but don’t break” evening as far as rushing defense which I usually detest, but it worked
        for the end result.
- When grading players, it is hard and often misleading when you don’t know what their true assignments are and
       which player looks bad because someone blew their assignment and that player had to come over and cover
     and winds up looking like the goat.
- Mitchell should get a higher grade- he wasn’t offsides- it was a bad call and he got robbed of a sack!
ADDITIONALLY- I think there needs to be more rotation in for Charles Grant since he clearly is not irreplaceable
       and we need to get more production out of that position.
I think Dunbar looks very promising and I am not sure that Clancy and Mc Cray played enough to get penalized for their lack of tackles or sacks- especially Mc Cray. He is only put in sparingly it appears to me and then he seems to be assigned to do only one thing, beat his man to the outside on a passing down. I would give him and a couple of other players incompletes because they did what they were asked to do but didn’t get enough (i think) playing time to really impact the game.

"Indecision may or may not be my biggest problem" - Jimmy Buffett

by Philinwood on Nov 5, 2009 6:26 AM CST reply actions  

Mitchell also let Turner get to the corner on at least two different occasions. Offsides or not, I’m not so sure he even deserves a C-.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Nov 5, 2009 9:25 AM CST reply actions  

For the record, on his special teams tackle, I yelled out “well, what do ya know … Mel Mitchell made a play!” And I immediately felt really, really stupid. But I don’t think anyone sitting around me caught it. Damn, I’m getting old. =(

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Nov 5, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

i thought his name was marvin?

I see what you got...Lets rock - Al Bundy

by knucklesmalone on Nov 6, 2009 1:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I feel

that Fujita being out made that game closer than what it should’ve been. Fujita’s a vet and will be in the right spots to force Turner inside for the runs to his side. I think we’re hurting on that side in the run support.

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Nov 5, 2009 11:08 PM CST reply actions  

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