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Colts or Saints? Who is the Best of the Undefeateds?

Hey Saints Fans! Looks like you're having one heck of a season so far this year. Since only New Orleans and Indy are left among the ranks of the unbeaten, I put together a comparison of the two teams over at my site, Checking the Numbers. It's somewhat similar to the other post that I did here a couple weeks ago. Saintsational again very graciously allowed me to post it in a FanPost, so here you go! Hope you enjoy.

           88972048AL001_SAN_FRANCISCO                                                                           drew brees

Peyton Manning (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)             Drew Brees (Photo by Chris Graythen/Getty Images)

Both ESPN.com and NFL.com have their power rankings as to where teams rank in NFL after the first 8 weeks of the regular season. Everyone that I have seen ranks the Indianapolis Colts and New Orleans Saints as the top two teams in the league, but there is some disagreement as to which should be ranked number 1. Both teams have become known for explosive passing games behind future Hall of Famer Peyton Manning and Drew Brees, who may be making his case for the Hall as well. But as I mentioned in an earlier post on the Saints, New Orleans now also has a serious rushing attack. Let’s see if the Colts have also found that kind of balance. We’ll also compare each team’s opposing offensive and defensive ranks to see what level of competition that they have faced this year.

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As I have in the past, I have pulled the average per game numbers for both the Saints and the Colts so that I can compare them side by side. In addition to raw numbers, I’ll show where each team ranks offensively and defensively. Then, I will review the average rankings of their opponents’ offenses and defenses, which will allow me to know what their level of competition has been to this point in the season.

So, let’s get into it. First, I have the team side by side comparison:

 

Colts versus Saints Comparison

Saints Colts Saints-Colts
Offense


Pts/G 39 28.1 10.9
Yards/G 428.71 403.57 25.14
Yards/Play 6.3 6.5 -0.2
Pass Yards/G 275.43 316.29 -40.86
Pass Att/G 32.86 37.71 -4.86
Pass Yds/Att 8.7 8.5 0.2
Pass INT/G 0.86 0.57 0.29
Sacks/G 1.57 0.71 0.86
Rush Yards/G 153.29 87.29 66
Rush Att/G 33.71 23.57 10.14
Rush Yds/Att 4.5 3.7 0.8
TD/G 5.14 3.43 1.71
Defense


Pts/G 22 13 9
Yards/G 326 292.14 33.86
Yards/Play 5.1 4.6 0.5
Pass Yards/G 223.86 180.14 43.71
Pass Att/G 38.14 36.14 2
Pass Yds/Att 6.2 5.5 0.7
Pass INT/G 2.29 1 1.29
Sacks/G 2.43 2.86 -0.43
Rush Yards/G 102.14 112 -9.86
Rush Att/G 23.29 25 -1.71
Rush Yds/Att 4.4 4.5 -0.1
TD/G 2.43 1.14 1.29


And, then the rankings of each teams' offensive and defensive units:

 

Saints' and Colts' Rankings

Saints Colts
Off Pts 1 6
Off Yds 1 4
Off Pass Yds 6 1
Off Rush Yds 4 30
Def Pts 20 1
Def Yds 15 9
Def Pass Yds 17 7
Def Rush Yds 11 17

As the Saints post that I mentioned above showed, New Orleans still has better balance offensively than the Colts. They are ranked in the top 6 in both passing and rushing, and, consequently, are ranked number 1 in both total yards gained and points scored. On the other hand, Indy is better defensively. It seems that the Saints' defense has slipped somewhat since I last checked on them. The Colts rank ahead of New Orleans in every defensive category except rushing yards allowed. Somewhat surprisingly, Indy is ranked number 1 in the league in points allowed.

Looking back at the raw the numbers, the biggest difference between the two teams is in rushing yards gained. The Saints are averaging 66 more yards on the ground than the Colts. However the second biggest difference is in offensive and defensive pass yards per game. Indy is gaining over 40 more yards and allowing nearly 44 fewer yards through the air than New Orleans. I suppose it shouldn't be a great surprise that two undefeated teams appear to be pretty evenly matched. The advantage of one seems to be offset by and advantage for another. Let's take a look at the level of competition for each team to see if one or the other has faced stiffer foes.

 

Average Opponents' Rankings

Saints Colts
Off Pts 15 18.06
Off Yds 18.57 16.31
Off Pass Yds 20.43 17.44
Off Rush Yds 11.57 14.31
Def Pts 17.71 17.06
Def Yds 15.57 17.81
Def Pass Yds 15.29 18.88
Def Rush Yds 18.14 15.5

Not a huge difference there. The Saints seem to have a slight edge in opponents faced. Their opponents average a higher ranking in 4 of the 8 categories, while one is a virtual tie (defensive points allowed). The Colts' opponents have the higher average ranking in the other 3 categories.

If I had to pick one team over the other (which I should since that's the whole idea of the post), I'd have to lean toward the Saints right now. They have the more balanced team offensively. If Brees struggles somewhat, they can win running the ball, which Indy can't say right now. And, although their defense is giving up more yards and points, they are also taking the ball away more than the Colts, with over twice the number of interceptions as the Colts. With all that said, I'll walk the fence a little and say that you Manning has shown that he can carry his team. Against the Dolphins, he came from behind to win the game with only 14 or so minutes in time of possession for the game.

Finally, before wrapping up, let's take a quick look at each team's remaining opponents.

 

Average Remaining Opponents' Ranks

Saints Colts
Off Pts 20.89 15.89
Off Yds 18.89 12.78
Off Pass Yds 18.11 14.89
Off Rush Yds 14.89 13.33
Def Pts 18.89 13.44
Def Yds 17.67 14.89
Def Pass Yds 12.89 14.78
Def Rush Yds 23.22 16.78

Based on this, it looks like the Colts can expect the tougher road from here on out. It will be interesting to see how each team finishes the season. I don't expect either to go 16-0, but I do think they are both well on their way to clinching the top spot in their respective playoff seedings.

This FanPost was written by a reader and member of Canal Street Chronicles. It does not necessarily reflect the views of CSC and its staff or editors.

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Ohoops !!

The numbers don’t tell the intangables and as you said, any advantage the Colts might have in one area could be canceled out by the Saints in another area and Vise Versa. I would say it’s a close call across the board but as they say….Any given Sunday. One thing is for sure. Peyton will find the weaknesses in your defence if you have any. I also think Brees can take apart any defence given the time to do so. Then you have to consider the weapons we have that I dont think the Colts can compare to. That being said, I will take the Saints in a heads up battle at a neutral site. Like the SUPER BOWL !!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Saints !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by saint-sly on Nov 4, 2009 8:02 PM CST reply actions  

of course we'll take the saints

we are saints fans!! if yo had said you’d take the colts I would find you!!

lol

I am a jack of all, and master of none

by doublewide on Nov 4, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL :)

For ideas on statistical analyses, email me at wolfpacksteelersfan@gmail.com.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Nov 5, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

The Colts happen to be my second favorite team

Because I love Peyton. I knew him and his mother when I coach little league. He was a great 9 year old and that how I remember him. However, unless they can come up with a running game, they are going to have trouble winning the AFC, much less the Super Bowl.

Ajun Cajun exiled to Charlotte. I miss Mardi Gras and the Jazz Fest so much I could cry.

by Ajun Cajun on Nov 4, 2009 11:11 PM CST reply actions  

I live in Indiana

and I believe that it’d be a crazy close game between our two teams. They’ve laid stompings on the bad teams like they should, beat the mediocre teams taht they should, and beat the good teams(I will include Miami here b/c their record doesn’t indicate how good they’ve played). I’ve watched them and I even root for them now. The one thing I have noticed though, and I’m sure I’m not the only one, is how horrid their running game is. Without a running game, they are beatable and we have a good enough secondary to beat them. I had to hear about Peyton’s playaction pass during the game this week and they kept saying how great it was. Well, it’s not great. Not his fault there’s not a running game. I think that when Donald Brown gets back, the run game will get better. Untill then, they’re one dimensional. Also, Manning got sacked 3 times Sunday when he’d only had that happen 2x for the entire season. They’re a very good team but very beatable.

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Nov 5, 2009 1:10 AM CST reply actions  

Good points

I agree that it’d be a close game. As I said, I thought they were pretty evenly matched. The Colts’ D is ranked much higher than I expected, which gives me some pause in declaring the Saints better. I just wonder if the Colts can keep their D playing that well.

Also, I forgot about the Manning connection to Louisiana (pretty bad, eh? :)). I’m sure that’d be an exciting SB for Cajun Country.

For ideas on statistical analyses, email me at wolfpacksteelersfan@gmail.com.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Nov 5, 2009 8:27 AM CST reply actions  

They're D

has looked pretty good especially since Bob Sanders came back. He seemed to really show up for the 49ers game. They just lost their starting CB on the final play of practice too. ouch. idk how much depth they have there.

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Nov 5, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Sanders out for the season now

that may have a big impact on their D

"Indecision may or may not be my biggest problem" - Jimmy Buffett

by Philinwood on Nov 6, 2009 10:45 PM CST reply actions  

The Colts’ defense — particularly their secondary — is just decimated with injuries right now. Bob Sanders, Marlin Jackson and Tyjuan Hagler are all out for the season. Kelvin Hayden is also expected to miss this week and Dwight Freeney is pretty banged up himself. I’m taking the Texans in an upset.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Nov 8, 2009 9:19 AM CST reply actions  

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