So what is a 158.3 quarterback rating anyway?

by poolejkp17 on Dec 1, 2009 12:17 PM CST

OK, maybe I'm just dumb, but where do they get that 158.3 perfect quarterback rating anyway? Brees was 18 of 23 last night, yet he has a perfect quarterback rating for last nights game. What if he had completed all of his passes-would he get a higher rating? He only had one sack-does that play into it?

Can somebody enlighten me on how that number is achieved? Now don't get me wrong, watching his precision last night was a thing of beauty, and he only gets better! He is on the same level as Peyton Manning as far as having complete control of the game and being a smart quarterback. Must be something in the New Orleans water. Oh wait, that can't be-remember Aaron Rogers? What a nightmare!

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Bingo! You hit the nail on the head

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by nofear on Dec 1, 2009 12:23 PM CST reply actions

QB rating

is a set of points you get, for each completed pass, points taken away for each incomplete pass, more points added for yards/catch, and same with TDs and points taken away for INTs. I cant find anywhere the exact point system, but when you add all the possible points you can get it comes up to 158.3

by Lil_joe692 on Dec 1, 2009 12:26 PM CST reply actions

or

it adds up to 38-17 lol

by simone219 on Dec 1, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passer_rating explains it. Here’s a quote from the article:

A perfect rating requires at least a 77.5% completion rate, at least 12.5 yards per attempt, a touchdown on at least 11.875% of attempts, and no interceptions.

Last night, Brees had a 78.3% completion rate, an incredible 16.13 Y/A, and 21.7% of his attempts went for TDs. That’s exactly enough for a perfect rating in the completion percentage, and the other two stats are well above the requirements.
The minimum requirements for a 23-attempt perfect rating game is at least 18 completions, 288 yards, and 3 TDs.

Brees just barely missed in the Giants game – 76.7% completion and 12.3 Y/A is just under the requirements.

by Krenn on Dec 1, 2009 12:35 PM CST reply actions

http://www.primecomputing.com/formula.htm

NFL Quarterback Rating Formula
(National Football League)
a = (((Comp/Att) * 100) -30) / 20
b = ((TDs/Att) * 100) / 5
c = (9.5 – ((Int/Att) * 100)) / 4
d = ((Yards/Att) – 3) / 4

a, b, c and d can not be greater than 2.375 or less than zero.

QB Rating = (a + b + c + d) / .06

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by asaint on Dec 1, 2009 12:37 PM CST reply actions

This has always been my problem with the rating.

It doesn’t take into account, things like throw aways to avoid a sack, tipped passes by a receiver that are intercepted, or my favorite rushing tds. It’s a good rating system, but it has its limits.

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by Ajun Cajun on Dec 2, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions

this rating is almost arbitrary

mathematically it makes no logical sense to formulate a rating this way..why? because what if he need to spike the ball? that isn’t accounted for in the qb rating. what about interceptions due the receivers? again, not really accounted for. i remember seeing a better system to to evalulate qbs out there, but i don’t remember where i saw it, i’ll have to search for that

by nanvinnie on Dec 1, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions

Welcome to the wonderful world of sports statistics

I’ve seen some pretty odd statistical formulas, but their ultimate aim is to try to help us analyze the game a little better from a hard (i.e. mathematical) perspective in addition to what we see with our eyes.

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by Ace Venom on Dec 1, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions

The last NO QB to have a perfect passer rating

You have to go back to 1993. Mike Buck had a perfect passer rating on October 17, 1993 in a losing effort to the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was only the second QB to have a perfect passer rating in a losing effort. The first? Bobby Hebert did it on September 12, 1993 for the Atlanta Falcons in a losing effort to the Saints and he was also the first to start a game and lose it with a perfect rating (Buck did not start that game). It’s not quite like the perfect game in baseball because pitching a perfect game in baseball would make you the winning pitcher (no base runners allowed, so no runs can cross the plate). You have some room for error when it comes to producing a perfect passer rating.

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by Ace Venom on Dec 1, 2009 1:00 PM CST reply actions

Thanks guys!

I’m a middle aged female Saints fan (for the past 40 years), and I enjoy talking football with the boys. Ya’ll have given me some new knowledge about the game, and I appreciate it. Everyone I work with have been coming by today congratulating me on last night’s game. I feel like I played every down! Here’s something from one of my congratulatory emails-

Twas the month before Xmas and no sign of snow. But N.O. doesn’t care cause the Saints are 11 & 0. Dinkins scored a touchdown, Sharper intercepted a pass. And the Who Dat Nation cheered when Brady was sacked on his ass. Sunday the Redskins, to Washington we will go. And when the Black and Gold get finished we’ll be 12 & O.

by poolejkp17 on Dec 1, 2009 1:22 PM CST reply actions

LOL, love your poem!

And would love to know how you managed to stay middle aged for 40 years!! ;-)

WHODAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by nofear on Dec 1, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions

If I can be allowed a bit of "poetic license":

Twas de month afore Xmas an’ no sign of snow
But NO don’t care cause de Saints dey be 11 & 0
Dinkins done scored a touchdown, Sharper he intercept a pass
An’ the Who Dat Nation cheered when Brady done got sacked on his ass
Sunday the Redskins, to Washington we will go
An’ when de Black & Gold be finish, we be 12 & 0

(Sorry, just had to give it a bit of the “Cajun Night Before Christmas” flavor, y’see…)

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by GSO Saints Fan on Dec 1, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions

also, the ncaa passer rating is completely different though… its not uncommon to see a player with a rating around 300

drew brees would have had a 285.5 in the ncaa passer rating.

by DrewBreesManCrush on Dec 1, 2009 1:45 PM CST reply actions

NCAA passer rating

((8.4 x YDS) + (330 x TD) + (100 x COMP) – (200 x INT))/ATT

The single season record for FBS belongs to Colt Brennan, who had a 186.0 rating in 2006. Ryan Dinwiddie holds the FBS career record (168.9) which was set between 2000-2003.

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by Ace Venom on Dec 1, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions

Just so you’re aware… the passer rating system is antiquaited. It’s the “good” game from a 1973 QB perspective. That’s why 100 isn’t the max.

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by MattRichWarren on Dec 1, 2009 3:30 PM CST reply actions

I thought that ESPN said Brees wasa the first NO QB to havew a perfect rating

but then I remember reading that stat mentioned above about how Buck and Hebert had perfect ratings previously. Maybe ESPN meant first NO QB to have a perfect game and win. Anyway, pretty amazing having perfect QB ratings and losing?? And Mike Buck – perfect QB rating? I had high hopes for him, but he never panned out.

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by Philinwood on Dec 2, 2009 9:03 AM CST reply actions