New Orleans Saints @ Atlanta Falcons: Chat with the Enemy
by Dave Cariello on Dec 10, 2009 6:00 AM CST
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You'll remember the last time the Saints played the Falcons Dave the Falconer and I had a casual, light-hearted chat about our two teams. The result was a pretty funny back-and-forth I think many of you enjoyed. Since these discussions with DTF are always my personal favorite as well, I wasn't going to miss the opportunity for one more whacky conversation. Thanks to Dave for taking the time to talk with me.
Saintsational: Alright. Let's get this started.
Dave the Falconer: Indeed.
Saintsational: I'm sure you want to ask me what it's like being the fan of such an awesome team.
Dave the Falconer: Well, first I'd have to ask why you switched to being a Falcons fan. Seems pretty disloyal to me. But for the sake of humoring you, what's it like to be a Saints fan right now?
Saintsational: Well, the Saints are kind of a big deal right now. Seriously though, I can't really say enough. It's hard to express in words. This is something we've all been waiting for years to happen. I told you earlier that it's like everyone in the city drops ecstacy on Sunday and the high lasts all week.
Dave the Falconer: I certainly am envious of the success this season.
Saintsational: Did you see Drew on Jay Leno earlier tonight?
Dave the Falconer: No, I was busy driving through what we New Englanders like to call "a minor inconvenience."
Saintsational: Inconvenience? Is that traffic? Or snow?
Dave the Falconer: Big ol' snowstorm.
Saintsational: Oh, well, your loss dude.
Dave the Falconer: Is Drew a rock star-type figure in New Orleans at this point?
Saintsational: I don't know about rock star. Maybe more like Tiger Woods before his multiple extramarital affairs.
Dave the Falconer: So a cello star, maybe?
Saintsational: I will say this...we're having an election for mayor here in New Orleans next year. If he ran, he would win. Hands down. Wouldn't even need a run-off.
Dave the Falconer: He's probably also most qualified.
Saintsational: Haha. I'm laughing because it's true. I'm also crying...because it's true.
Dave the Falconer: You should probably see a therapist.
Saintsational: Drew's not as popular in New Orleans as Michael Vick is in Atlanta apparently. What's up with that?
Dave the Falconer: That's a cheap shot, my friend.
Saintsational: Door was open. Wiiiiiiiiiiiide open.
Dave the Falconer: There's still a large and vocal contingent of fans who I would say are equally or more attached to Vick than they are to the Falcons. You saw the results last Sunday.
Saintsational: Why? Matt Ryan is pretty darn good.
Dave the Falconer: I'm not licensed to psychoanalyze an entire fan base. So I'll just say...
Dave the Falconer: Hey! Look over there! :O
Saintsational: Where? I don't see anything...
Saintsational: Oh well, let's move on. Are the Saints going to have the good fortune of not seeing Matt Ryan on Sunday? Please answer Magic-8 ball style.
Dave the Falconer: Outlook hazy. Try again.
Saintsational: Damnit. I hate these things...Are the Saints going to have the good fortune of not seeing Matt Ryan on Sunday?
Dave the Falconer: Outlook good. Instead, you'll face off against the awesome might of Chris Redman.
Saintsational: Seriously? No Matt Ryan?
Dave the Falconer: Seriously. The coaching staff is saying they won't play Ryan without injured linemen Sam Baker and Harvey Dahl. Something about not getting him killed. I'm a bit hazy on the details.
Saintsational: Really? That's pretty interesting. It's funny, because that means they don't give a flying you know what about Redman. That must make him feel good.
Dave the Falconer: He used to sell insurance. I'm presuming he has some.
Saintsational: Ha! Alright, more injury questions. What about Turner? Please answer this one fortune cookie style.
Dave the Falconer: Michael Turner are find true love only in playing field. Lucky Numbers: 4 775 33 666. Learn To Speak Chinese: *&@#*$& is Boat.
Saintsational: You've outdone yourself with that one. So you think he'll play?
Dave the Falconer: Actually, I'm doubtful he will. Damn fortune cookie format. I think the coaching staff has to take it easy on him, especially because Jason Snelling and Jerious Norwood are good options.
Dave the Falconer: I noticed that Pierre Thomas, Mike Bell and Reggie Bush were all limited in practice. Who among them will play this weekend? Please answer as if you were Alex Trebek.
Saintsational: To be sure, the answer we were looking for was, "They will all probably dress this Sunday." We would have also accepted, "The Roaring Twenties will roar on."
Dave the Falconer: Haha. We would also have accepted "Potent Potables."
Saintsational: The Penis Mightier for $27,000, Trebek!
Dave the Falconer: I'll take The Rapist for $200. That's therapist, Mr. Connery!
Saintsational: Ohhhh, that's good stuff.
Dave the Falconer: Almost as good as the game that will be played this Sunday! Speaking of which...How does Robert Meachem keep scoring? It seems as though Marques Colston is the target on a lot of tough passes, but Meachem finds his way into the end zone frequently. How do we stop him?
Saintsational: You can't stop him. You can only hope to contain him. I love Robert Meachem.
Dave the Falconer: If you love him so much, why don't you marry him? Aside from the fact that it's not legal in Louisiana?
Saintsational: I would. Dave, if loving Robert Meachem is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Dave the Falconer: This took an unexpected turn.
Saintsational: Seriously, everybody has a man-thing for Drew but I think Robert Meachem is winning some admirers.Seriously, though, it's like Payton said a couple of weeks ago...he just has a knack for making things happen and Payton has resigned himself to incorporating Meachem more. If he's available in your fantasy league, pick him up. And with Colston in the mix as well, it's tough for teams to cover. Not only that, there's Devery Henderson and Jeremy Shockey to account for. Meachem has been the beneficiary of all that depth lately.
Dave the Falconer: He's been stealing touchdowns from Colston for me. So I think they should call him Robber Filchem. That's just me, though.
Saintsational: My favorite nickname for him is Pontchartrain Meach. That's a reference to old school New Orleans.
Dave the Falconer: Whoa...Whoa.
Saintsational: I was going to ask you before...how do you expect the Falcons to be able to beat the Saints without Ryan and Turner?
Dave the Falconer: Simple. Run the ball frequently. Wear down your defense. And count on Redman to deliver short passes that carve up your secondary. Either that or bar the door out of the locker room.
Saintsational: We're talking about Chris Redman?
Dave the Falconer: Yup.
Dave the Falconer: Or as I like to call him...Cristobal Rojohombre.
Saintsational: Ha. That's funny 'cause it's a different language.
Dave the Falconer: I knew you'd get it.
Saintsational: Over on The Falcoholic you've got this game listed as a "Season Definer" and list it as "Serious Business." Are you still hopeful for a playoff berth?
Dave the Falconer: I'm hopeful. But I don't think it's particularly realistic at this point. A winning season is still within our grasp, however.
Dave the Falconer: What do you think of the possibility of an undefeated season? Should the Saints go for it? And I just died a little inside typing that.
Saintsational: Yes, I think they should go for it. And they will go for it. Payton has said so and Brees has said so. They are going for it and I couldn't be happier. It's getting really exciting. Now that it's so close and a real possibility, I really want them to get it. That's why last weeks game was such a heartpounder. Every game they win makes that first eventual loss that much worse.
Dave the Falconer: It should be a good game, then. We played you guys reasonably tough earlier in the season.
Saintsational: Yeah, I'm definitely concerned. Mainly because of the Saints defense.
Dave the Falconer: Why, does your defense have more problems than a mathematician's diary? More "Ohnos" than Yoko's family?
Saintsational: Last week against the Redskins they looked like last years defense. I'm affraid it's getting slightly overlooked because of all the success of the team but with starting cornerbacks Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter out for a little bit, their absence is becoming evident. I'm hoping Greer returns this week. But they won't get very far looking like they did last week. That's why I am glad Redman is getting the start.
Dave the Falconer: Oh yeah? Well.... >:-(
Saintsational: With all of the Falcons injuries, has any player stepped up and surprised fans? Any insider fantasy tips?
Dave the Falconer: Gonzo's always a good choice. And so is Roddy White. Beyond that, there aren't any surprises that are worthwhile from a fantasy perspective. We all love Eric "Special" Weems. He's a great kick returner.
Saintsational: No players that have stepped up and surprised?
Dave the Falconer: Not in recent weeks. Did you see the Eagles game?
Dave the Falconer: Yeesh.
Saintsational: Yeah, that's true. Sorry, you're still sensitive.
Dave the Falconer: I'm a Falcons fan. I was born sensitive.
Saintsational: Tell Saints fans something surprising/interesting about the Falcons that we probably don't know.
Dave the Falconer: Our points for and points against averages are both 23.3, and we're 6-6. So if nothing else, we're remarkably consistent.
Dave the Falconer: Same question, but for the Saints.
Saintsational: Sean Payton and Drew Brees are members of the same fraternity.
Saintsational: I guess we'll end it as we usually do...with a prediction. This will not count toward your three predictions in our weekly prediction contest this friday.
Dave the Falconer: Gosh darnit. I predict (foolishly) a 27-24 Falcons win. Based on nothing but gumption. You?
Saintsational: I think it will be close but the Saints will be on top. Let's go with 35-32 Saints.
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You guys are awesome.
Thanks for the laugh this morning. I really needed it.
Is Eric Weems of Italian decent? Because I was listening to an oldies radio station recently and I could have sworn I heard them mention “Weems’s a wop … oh, Weem’s a wop … oh, Weems’s a wop …”
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Now, that's Funny
"I said this early on, that this was a good football team, they just maybe had to have a stick put in certain parts of their body to play a little harder in certain places." - Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.
Careful pizon
There a few of us that might not like the “wop” comment.
This is OUR year!! Yea, I said it. Who Dat!!!
by Big and Easy on Dec 10, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
I learned all my stereotypical Italian phrases
By watching Super Mario Bros. when I was a kid. Leapin’ lasagna!
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by Dave Choate on Dec 10, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
The Godfather I & II for me
“Leave the Gun, Take the Canoli” although I remember the “Super Mario Show” when I was finishing college, more into Married w/ Children @ that time period, but last yr. I purchased the DVD of the show for my 8 yr. old son, loves it, as well as the games. R.I.P Captain Lou Albano! Damn I’m gettin old.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
No Problem
There’s a reason my freinds call me dego……….
"I said this early on, that this was a good football team, they just maybe had to have a stick put in certain parts of their body to play a little harder in certain places." - Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.
Good Stuff
And I want to second the Man-crush on Meachem, I drafted him in 2 of my 3 FF leagues as a prospected third WR and he has killed it these last 6 weeks. I even switched my yearly XMAS present of an Authentic Jersey from Thomas to Meachem this year because of his play…..although I’m not gonna lie here, I am going to get both and double up on my presents to myself haha
FF Meachem
I drafted him last 2 years late rds. for that spare guy, and dumped him around wk. 3 or 4 b/c lack of playing time, Saints fans knew he had talent, but now look at him. Next yr. folks will take him earlier. Good for u, having patience to keep him or snagin’ him mid-season, before someone else did.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
It's clear you two know one another.
I really enjoyed reading this session. I started following these idly when the Patriots came around. The Patriot Blogger was so rigid, though I did like those statistics he gave. He seemed very honest and straightforward, which was both good and bad, because it made him look like a professional guy rather than a fan of the team.
THIS blog, however, is a sharp turn from that one and the two others that followed the Pats game. The inconsistent, random humor was so amusing that I repeated sections of this to my sister, who has interest in the Saints but who knows little about players or other teams. Still, very fine read!
Also, I’ve been Meachem lover since he got drafted, honestly. I’ve talked about him for three years, boasting about how good he looks when he does play, but always was let down when injuries and the old worry that Brees’ arm wasn’t strong enough (or he wasn’t confident enough) to chuck the ball downfield to where Meachem would be. THIS season, however, has shown a good piece of what he can do, and if it wasn’t that he’s been on payroll for three years, a lot of articles would be written about Meachem rather than Miles Austin’s breakout games.
AND, I’m blessed to have picked up Meachem on my fantasy team on draft day…two years straight. The last four weeks, he’s been a near deciding factor on whether I win or lose, because he’s consistently made up for the failures of other “reliable” players on my team. Who DAT! MEACHEM, dat’s who!
It's clear you two know one another.
…though it’s not clear in what sense.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston
Saintsational?
A 35-32 win? That close? I hope not.
Dave the Falconer "Best' non-Saint contributor
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
SOOOOOOOOOO JABARI GREER JUST HAD SPORTS HERNIA SUGERY!
SAINTS HOPE TO HAVE HIM READY FOR THE PLAYOFFS.. WOW…….
Just saw that
I gotta say, I’m hugely disappointed, but not at all shocked. Every time somebody goes down with what seems like an insignificant or nagging injury, it suddenly turns into two months out and some kind of surgery with Payton. I swear, the Saints may have a great medical staff, but their Strength and Conditioning coaches should be dropped off a cliff. Get these guys in a yoga class!
That said, I hope the two CB’s and Fujita are ready for the playoffs, too, because the ‘08 Saints’ defense isn’t going to take us far, if the Washington game was any indicator.
"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas
More reason to push hard to go 16-0
Because that might be as far as we get.
Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston
Ya, I don't know if you guys watch hockey..
But my team is the LA Kings and they do the same thing, it’s so annoying. Ryan Smyth’s injury was supposed to be 4 weeks, then pushed back to 4-6 weeks, now it’s like another 3 weeks, I can’t stand it, just be honest and up front from the beginning and we won’t be irritated.
On the bright side
I’ll be starting Roddy White in two FF leagues this week.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Hmmmmmm. I'm starting to think that "our" Dave and Dave the Falconer might be one and the same.
Too much talent to be stuffed into just one cranium?
Kind of like betting black AND red in roulette?
Ying and Yang?
Cheech and Chong?
Conjoined twins seperated at half time?
Hmmmmmmm.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers
If we're not suppose to eat animals, why are they made of meat?
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