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New Orleans Saints 26 @ Atlanta Falcons 23: Lucky Number Thirteen

That was fast...literally. The game took less than three hours to complete and just like that, the Saints have set a franchise record for total number of victories in a season and secured a first round bye in the playoffs. We can officially deem this the best Saints regular season in history. No matter how hard they tried to give this game away.  

Drew Brees and the offense looked splendid as usual, moving the ball at will. As is becoming the theme late in the season, the defense left a little to be desired and is still showing the effects of injury.

I don't have anything inspirational to write. This victory makes me feel lukewarm. How much longer can the team play like this and expect to win? I should be happier. Just read the bullets. 

Star-divide

Bullets!

  • Here we go again with Reggie. I'm sure today's game will ignite all of the usual talk. I always like to refer to the words of Sports Illustrated's Tim Layden on this one..."Bush, a Heisman winner and second overall pick, has a great knack for making an otherworldly play just when it seems appropriate to question his production in relation to his pedigree."  He looked solid out there and had he been given the opportunity, probably could have done more. For those of you who think he doesn't get used enough, that might be fair but I think he should just be considered a talented weapon in a healthy rotation of a three-man backfield, operating much the same was as the receivers.
  • Speaking of not living up to their pedigree...it seems definitely appropriate to question Charles Grant's production in the second half of this season. He had one tackle today and a stupid, costly personal foul penalty. What's worse is that Grant also seems to lack a great knack for making an otherworldly play, which begs the question, "What the hell is he doing on the field?" We always hear talk from the coaches about putting the best guys on the field and benching starters, regardless of their contracts. I'm not seeing that because right now I feel there are hungrier players on the roster while Charles Grant is still out there dogging it.   Charles Grant is officially on notice. So are the coaches. 
  • I need to get myself a Thomas Morstead jersey because he's been one of the most consistent players on the team. He was nailing his kickoffs deep into the end zone all day. Do they even sell Morstead jerseys?
  • The penalties today were abundant. Some were called that shouldn't have been. Some weren't called that should have. Some favored the Saints. Some favored the Falcons. Some were just downright stupid. Still, the world spins on. 
  • How about the offensive line? Great effort by all of them today. Drew dropped back to pass 40 times and never took a hit. No need to question whether to rest Brees if we know he isn't going to be in harms way. 
  • Should we be happy or angry about what we saw from Garrett Hartley today? He made all three of his field goals, which wound up being crucial., but he also missed an inexcusable extra point which could have been costly.  I think I'm okay with it.
  • While we're on the topic of inexcusable...what the hell was Payton thinking? Payton's smart timeout in overtime last week practically won the game for the Saints. This week he nearly lost the game with the fake field goal late in the game. I mean, really?!? Really!?! Take the three points and force Atlanta to score a touchdown. End of story. 
  • That being said, Brunell could have easily made Payton look like a genius had he thrown the ball earlier instead of holding on to it too long.
  • Probably the worst game I've seen from Darren Sharper so far this season. He was left in single coverage often (on the double corner "Chuckie" blitz) and got beat a couple of times, one I believe was on a double move by the receiver, a play very similar to the one the Saints had so much success with last week against Washington.
  • Give some credit to Chris Redman who did a great job filling in for Matt Ryan and had a hell of a game. Definitely better than I was expecting. Also give credit to the Saints beleaguered secondary who helped make him look that way. 
  • As bad as the Saints defense continues to look they came up big when they needed to, particularly their fearless leader, Jonathan Vilma. Vilma came up huge with the interception over the middle late in the game, the days only turnover and a crucial one at that. Then, on the second most crucial play of the game it was Vilma coming up big again with a tackle and a stop on a fourth and short dump pass.
  • Just as the Saints got lucky last week with Suisham's missed field goal, they again got really lucky with the spot that the referees gave Marques Colston on his second down reception. Wasn't even close.  Thank your lucky stars.
  • I have ragged on Randall Gay a lot these past two seasons but I am always willing to applaud as well. Randall Gay did a pretty good job filling in as a starter today. Certainly better than I expected. Randall had a nice pass breakup and also sniffed out the wildcat play on first down late in the game, making a 12-yard tackle for a loss. He's no Jabari Greer or Tracy Porter but for today, he was just good enough.
  •  The Saints were very solid on third down today, completing 66%. 
  • Did anyone notice Aaron Stecker return a kickoff?
  • Lynell Hamilton looked good in the little work he received today. 
  • Congratulations to Drew Brees for notching his 120th career touchdown pass as a Saint, now tied with Aaron Brooks

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Who was the Saints player of the game?
Drew Brees
85 votes
Jonathan Vilma
345 votes
Pierre Thomas
4 votes
Reggie Bush
123 votes
Randall Gay
1 votes
Robert Meachem
3 votes

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Totally agree

It was a win…but not convincing. We used to win by 12, 14, 20…now it’s 3’s. Given wins in December are tough to come by, but this was a struggling performance on D. No sacks, only forced them to punt once. And that was with Ryan and Turner out.

"Drew Breeeeeeeees!" "Oh, yeah."

by Malsby on Dec 13, 2009 4:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

This is terrible

What happened to our defense it no longer even bothers to show up.
Charles Grant needs to be benched,someone needs to have a good talk with our linebackers who all of the sudden forgot how to play their postions and dont evven talk about the secondary they were burnt on a regular basis
And lets not forget that kicker

The offense looked good but we have seen how far offense alone can get us in the playoffs

And I would like to shut aikman’s mouth up for good is he the biggest a$$%^$#@ in the both or what?

by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 13, 2009 4:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And to make it worse

The Vikes looked impressive dismantleing a good bengals team

by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 13, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A good bengals team? Not the way they are playing right now. 11 penalties for 85 yards is doing a pretty good job of making yourself look bush league. Or how about the fact that they can’t pass anymore now that Chris Henry went down.

The Bengals might not even make the playoffs, and if they do, they’ll be lucky as can be to not be one-and-done.

by FriarBob on Dec 13, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. But if they lose their next three and the Ravens win their next three, the Bengals will be out of luck. Granted it’s not terribly likely, but the way the Bengals have been playing of late, I’m not ruling it out.

And until Brat can take a few lessons from a real OC to learn how to not be as predictable as an open book, the Bengals are going nowhere.

by FriarBob on Dec 13, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they are 9-4

The way they played the last 6 weeks has been impressive that got their butts handed to them by the Vikes today which is my point

by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 13, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Vikes & Vilma

Vikes looking good and winning, that was the worst part of the day…
Vilma’s stop on 4th down WON the game in all likelihood…
BUT…I have never seen us complain about winning a game so much as lately…I’m not sure that is a good thing…Falcons made some big plays and so did we. Falcons were one big catch from winning it, BUT they didn’t! What the hell is so wrong with that, is it because we are not PERFECT?

Gris Gris Man, Voodoo Surgeon General and Master of Witch Doctory

by Gris Gris Man on Dec 14, 2009 8:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The defense decided

that if Payton wont rest player, they would rest themselves. Looked as though the whole defense rested untill about 3 minutes left in the fourth quarter and then they turned it up a notch. That makes the resting players question a moot point. Seems my Saints play down to lesser teams so I will expect a huge effort againts Dallas.

by saint-sly on Dec 13, 2009 4:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good words, Dave

I agree with all of your bullets, to some extent or another, and I always appreciate your analysis.

  • Chuckwagon looked downright lazy, slow, and unproductive in this game. I know he definitely did NOT have any impactful plays on defense. And on the TD that Sharper got beat on, when Gay blitzed, Grant took this slow, weak, inside loop-rush to the QB that got nowhere, while Gay’s blitz was easily picked up by the man that would have had to account for both Gay AND C-wagon had Grant rushed straight towards Redman from his spot on the end. I’m not sure if that was a function of a badly-designed or just badly-executed blitz. Aren’t blitzes supposed to cause overloads of too many rushers and not enough blockers in an area? Then why send Grant to the inside instead of overloading the side that Gay’s blitzing from? anyway, I’m no Defensive Coordinator, so maybe I’m missing the boat on this.
  • Vilma – thank GOD for Vilma today.
  • Maybe I’m nuts, but I wasn’t all that freaked out by Payton’s fake FG call. To me, it felt like the 3 points wouldn’t make a difference. The way the Falcons had been driving the ball in the 2nd half, I felt they were going to go hard at getting a TD and would be easily capable of it. I think I was more upset at Brunell’s indecisiveness in executing it – the late throw doomed that play. Maybe he couldn’t decide between trying to hit the short man vs. Nicks, who was open downfield. I think I was also much upset over Dave Thomas not even trying to catch that 3rd down pass that looked very catchable to me on the play before the fake. But here’s another point, in seasons past (2007 Superdome Special vs. Tampa Bay), Payton’s botched trick plays led to a loss, whereas this time, the D came up with a big play to bail us out.
  • 13-0 is sweet. I just hope we get Greer and Porter back for the postseason, healthy and game-ready. This dream season could all go up in flames in the playoffs if we can’t stop good teams.

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

Shop as usual, and avoid panic buying.

by HansDat on Dec 13, 2009 5:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You're not nuts...

…I have no problem with the fake field goal. What makes Sean Payton who he is, this team and their identity, is their aggressive play. Take a shot…you’re 12-0. It was poorly executed.

Further to the call, Sean Payton, and this team…I love it. I’ll never forget watching the Mora days as a kid and how conservative he was. Payton is the anti-Mora and he’s now taken this team to a franchise best 13 wins. I trust in the Coach.

by mainesaint on Dec 13, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm no psychic

but I firmly believe that had Hartley not missed the PAT Payton would have kicked the FG. With those three points (assuming he made it), the lead would be seven. Having missed the PAT the lead would be six. A TD and PAT would have beaten us. So the extra three would not have changed that. It only assured that the Falcons couldn’t tie the game with a FG sending the game into overtime. Just coach-think (sort of like non-verbal coach-speak).

As far as Chuckwagon Grant goes, he’s playing his way right out of town. We’re taking a big hit as far as his trade stock goes by keeping him out there. I say bench him and pick spots to insert him. Maybe him knowing he only has a set number of plays to have energy for will somehow inspire him to exert himself. Doubtful but so is him actually showing effort.

by WhoDat_OH on Dec 14, 2009 11:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

And move Chuckwagon to DT

If all he’s gonna do is take up space let him do it in the interior line. Maybe if he gets knocked around from all angles he’ll appreciate working in space more. They have to try something. Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is just insane.

by WhoDat_OH on Dec 14, 2009 12:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Only quibble I’d have with you Dave, on Colston’s second down catch it should have become third down rather than getting that lucky spot. Of course we might still have gotten it on third anyway, but I’ll take the freebie.

by FriarBob on Dec 13, 2009 5:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

got it

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by Saintsational on Dec 13, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave, just wanted you to know that Bob Costas just used the same "To rest, or not to rest..." Shakespeare bit you put on your story earlier this week

…in his feature on the Saints and Colts going undefeated on Football Night in America…

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

Shop as usual, and avoid panic buying.

by HansDat on Dec 13, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Son of a...

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by Saintsational on Dec 13, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Costas sucks so much.

At least you have better material than him. You openly stated that you had taken the easy road with that title…and then Costas comes along and also uses it. We know EXACTLY what that says about him.

by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 11:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Unlike some people (ahem ... mississipisaintsfan), I value class when you lose as well as when you win:

I just wanted to say good game y’all. Brees is not human, and he deserves a successful season after all this time. Y’all have a great ball club, and I can’t tell you how jealous I am. Best of luck going forward.

Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?

Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.

by FrankyWren on Dec 13, 2009 5:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Appreciated

good luck to y’all! Sorry about our crazies.

by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No worries ...

we have ‘em too. When all is said and done, it’s kinda nice that the South (or rather one team from the South) is running the NFC.

Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?

Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.

by FrankyWren on Dec 13, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I also pull for the Division.

When your team goes down, you go with division pride. Our quiet little NFC South usually has at least one solid team every year and sometimes more than one.

by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You are an angry something i'm not sure what

I hope every person on this board goes to the falcon site and read your comments
My opinion of Babineaux is my opinion no matter what you think it does not matter
Your name calling shows you lack of education and knowledge
Your thought that la. is full of lazy inbred voodoo worshiping hicks is just ridiculas
i hope you enjoy your petty little angry life

by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 13, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Broski

I’m angry because you came on our board and insulted our franchise (via a reference to playing Babs) after your team WON. I don’t know why that isn’t clear.

I respect your franchise, and I respect your team. Heck, I don’t see what is going to stop y’all from getting that perfect season. But don’t pretend like your innocent.

Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?

Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.

by FrankyWren on Dec 13, 2009 6:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Try not to let it get to you

There’s always going to be people that feel the need to rub things in. You guys played your hearts out today and I can feel your pain in a lot of ways(having watched the Saints fail for so many years). It’s a great rivalry that not many people pay attention to, but that doesn’t mean we can’t be mature about it.

"Drew Breeeeeeeees!" "Oh, yeah."

by Malsby on Dec 13, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Speak for yourself

Either go read my post or dont reply to things you havent got a clue on
I did not rub anything in i simply stated i lost respect for their franchise for playing babineaux

by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 13, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why shouldn't they play Babineaux?

Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston

by MtnExile on Dec 13, 2009 7:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a matter of whats wrong and right

He was driving down the road no license plate light expired tag no drivers license and was stopped and searched and 1 1/2 ounces of pot was found on his possesion in 3 seperate bags
That is a felony weather he has been tried yet or not is irrelevent
He is a proffesional football player for an orginization that is trying to over come a bad image created by Michael Vick
You can bet Roger Goodell will have something to say weather he plays next week
This is why some many players think it’s ok to be a thug because as long as they can play the have a job

by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 13, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

When I heard

Babs was playing I was like WTF??!! I know that if it had been any other team that Atlanta was playing, except for maybe the Colts, they would have benched his butt. I think that playing him in that game was a mistake. It sends the wrong message out to the rest of the NFL. If you commit a felony, don’t worry about the implications of not playing an undefeated team, we will still play you in hopes of winning. I rec’d it because it is something that everyone should read and give their opinions on. If it had been a Saints player, damn right Payton would have benched their sorry but.

by Saintsfan75 on Dec 14, 2009 1:40 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

After all the flops,

drops, mishandles ,miscues and oh my gods, today we won. now bring on the ……………..boys.

by KilnBill on Dec 13, 2009 5:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

That game

Helped me decide that the Saints have to go balls-out for the rest of the season, for two reasons. The first, because it’s probably going to take a total team effort to overcome even 2 of the final three opponents. But more importantly, because this incarnation of the ‘09 Saints, or the ’07-’08 Saints+winning, as I like to think of them, will need HFA throughout the playoffs to stand a chance.

I don’t know how this secondary played the game they played vs. NE, then put up these two travesties, but I’m done with every corner we have active right now. Sharper’s lack of a contract extension is looking pretty wise right now, too, as he hasn’t come close to early season form since losing the two starting corners(with the inexplicable exception of vs NE). I’m thinking all defense next draft. And now, DE or DT is suddenly the obvious first rounder. Maybe a stout RB who can play FB in a late round.

I hope to god the Saints come out guns blazing against the Cowboys next week, as it would be mildly heart breaking for Dallas at the dome to be the first(only?) loss of the season, but, more importantly, they’re gonna have to win out at home to avoid a visit to Minnesota, which this ’09 Saints team will not survive.

All that ranting aside, we swept the Dirtybirds! Woohoo! If there weren’t so much potential for continued greatness this season, that would be a completely satisfying moral to this story. Now please, Saints, muster one more great regular season game to keep Romo’s December collapse myth alive, and ruin one more Cowboys season!

"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas

by FuSoYa on Dec 13, 2009 5:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Dallassssss

I hate dallas. I hate Romo. I hate Jerry Jones. I hate the Palass the Cowboys play in. I’ve resorted to name calling.

We haven’t played well all season as far as I’m concerned. Only the Patriots were truly blown out and they suck. They were completely overrated. They are in a rebuilding year. Our cupcake schedule is allowing us to pull out victories with a half-hearted effort from the team overall.

The Saints are drinking the koolaide. I hope that the Dallas game is overhyped like a playoff game. We need to get in that dome and pound the crap out of an opponent. Moreover, nobody has to work on Sunday so we need to really just be assertive and break the Cowboys spirit, both from a crowd and a player perspective. The dome needs to be loud and the players need to execute. Hopefully a home game is just what we need to pull this game out and enter the playoffs with some major momentum.

by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 6:00 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

We haven’t played well all season as far as I’m concerned.

…..what?! We’re 13-0. The offense has been outstanding all year long and early in the year we were winning games by huge margins. The games against the Pats, Giants, Jets, Eagles, Lions and Bucs were beatings. Haven’t played well all season?! That’s insulting.

"Drew Breeeeeeeees!" "Oh, yeah."

by Malsby on Dec 13, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

we killed off a few overhyped teams

I’m kind of disappointed at the number of close games and our sloppiness. I want to see us execute better! Who dat!

by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Say what you want

…but this is the greatest New Orleans team ever. 13-0 speaks for itself. I’d like to see them play better, too…but if they continue to play crappy and half-heartedly all the way to the hoisting of the Lombardi Trophy, I’ll be okay with that too.

Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston

by MtnExile on Dec 13, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Right.

I’m all about the Lombardi. I don’t care about all these crappy wins. They feel like losses to me. Well, not last week…ha ha! That was freaking amazing!

But I am DYING to see us roll over some teams. Like, we need to shut some people down in the 1st half. We have so many miscues.

The best thing I can get out of these craptastic victories over terrible teams is we have a TON of room for improvement every week and yet we aren’t setting ourselves back. That’s a great position to be in. All these wins feel like losses to me, but they count as wins. So if we ever get fully on track for the playoffs we should freaking dominate!! That is what I’m hoping for.

by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Like Breesus said

We are a better team than this. We have room for improvement and we can play better. He was right on the money, esp with the game we played today. I think that we need to execute more in the secondary. Sharper got burned bad and he is my man. I like D# and I was hoping for some more pick 6’s. I think he will bring it back in the Dome and show everybody that he is worthy of a contract extension

by Saintsfan75 on Dec 14, 2009 1:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And we've now won all kinds of games

blow outs

track meets

come from behind

choke up a lead late but hang on to win

So, we are battle tested…more prepared to face any kind of game we encounter in the playoffs because of the variety of wins we have notched en route to 13-0, 13-0, 13-0 nanny nanny nanny poo poo. ding dong ding dong WHO DAT!!!!

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

Shop as usual, and avoid panic buying.

by HansDat on Dec 14, 2009 7:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Since 1961 only four teams have started 13-0

“Half-hearted effort?” Are you kidding me right now? It’s the NFL…you’re not going to come out and blow out every team you play in a 16 game schedule. It’s just not going to happen.

This team is 13-0…they’ve won games with both their offense and defense and with starters on the sideline. This is at the very least franchise history with three games left to play. All they’re doing is coming out every week and taking care of business. Kudos to this team for what’s been a record setting year. Finish it.

by mainesaint on Dec 13, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm happy about our position.

But I just want to blow somebody out.

Let’s get that dome ROCKIN’ for Dallas!!!!!!! The seats should just be removed for that game. No sitting allowed.

by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

boom rec'd it

Manufacturing wins is one thing. I’d like to see another blowout too. And poor Wade Philips… Well, he needs to get the resume updated. The Saints ended Bill Parcells’ tenure in Dallas and I’d like to see them administer the coup de grace to Wade.

And if the law don't get her, then I will
Four little diamonds

by stujo4 on Dec 14, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the player of the game was not Mark Brunnell that for sure

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame
DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel and Chris Carter

by WVPiratesfan on Dec 13, 2009 6:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

WHO DAT!!

I voted for Vilma in this one!

Reggie is Reggie but the guys got some serious game regardless of what any of YALL say Reggie deserves an extension.

Our D does need to get healthy just Fujita missing the game made a big difference, I saw Ellis limping around all day, hope it is not serious.

Geaux Saints, Bless you Boys!!!

by Saintsfan4life on Dec 13, 2009 7:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tough Game

We need to get healthy for the post season or this great season will lead to disappointment.

Thinking of next year.
For the draft
OLB or DT in round 1 and 2

Free Agency
Kerry Rhodes? Seems like he’ll be out of NY next year.

WHO DAT

by pukenbowl on Dec 13, 2009 8:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I thought Wil Smith also played a very good game today

he had EFFORT written all over his work. He pursued and bull rushed and speed rushed and played disciplined football to my eye- but I did not review the film after. Grant is horrible. With all of our talent, I would inactivate him and give more playing time to others. Actually at this point maybe he should play more and we should rest other starters and then cut him loose before the playoffs. That would make more sense. I would rather see the Saints play a 3-4 and skip Grant altogether.

"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking

by Philinwood on Dec 13, 2009 9:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Mark Brunell didn't do anything wrong.

It was a stupid play, Nick wasn’t open and Dinkins was open 3 yards short of a first down and Brunell waited to asee if it would get beyond the first down marker. Cmon, Varl Nicks as a receiver? Was that just Paytron trying to set a record??

"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking

by Philinwood on Dec 13, 2009 9:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Fake Field Goal

Hey, that was Sean Payton’s “Bill Billcek” moment. It least it didn’t lose the game and I hope he is through with that for the rest of the year…oh heck..throw the dice you New Orleans Gambler!

He could go all the way!

by CajunCharlie on Dec 13, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

just changed my avatar

for the game’s MVP and our team spirit…

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

Shop as usual, and avoid panic buying.

by HansDat on Dec 13, 2009 10:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

and my big desktop pic is reggie diving into the end zone

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

Shop as usual, and avoid panic buying.

by HansDat on Dec 13, 2009 10:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

WHO DAT?

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

Shop as usual, and avoid panic buying.

by HansDat on Dec 13, 2009 10:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Whenever I see Reggie Dive

I think to myself, He is imagining it’s that Kardashian booty he is diving into. LOL Geaux REGGIE Geaux!!!!

by Saintsfan75 on Dec 14, 2009 1:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Brunell simply failed to execute.....

but going for a TD was the only smart thing to do because a field goal would have left a very hot Redman a chance to march down and score a winning TD as time expires (every QBs dream, just like Eli Manning in ’07 Super Bow)l. Payton was not affraid of taking it into OT. With hindsight I think he may have wished he had called a pass play with Drew and his best playmakers instead the fake but certainly not a field goal.Payton has the guts and killer instincts that are lacking most NFL head coaches.

My hats off to the O-line and Drew for thier great performances week in and week out. In my opinion Drerw Brees is the classiest guy to ever put on a helmet. Not the best showwing for the D….. yet Vilma still wins my game ball for his clutch pic and tackle.

by bobinva on Dec 13, 2009 10:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bush=More Rushing Attempts=Touchdowns

The name of the Game is Rushing attempts…If the Saints Org ever committ to Giving Bush 15-21 rushing attempts per game, he would light up the scoreboard, period. I dont wanna hear anything about no damn bust, or he cant run between the tackles. Bush averages a whopping, 10 CARRIES a game for his ENTIRE career with the Saints. Give the man the opportunity to run the football 15-21 carries a game for a SEASON, you will see amazing results, period.

by thagratest on Dec 13, 2009 10:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

bush = fragile

The reason he averages so few carries is because he is constantly hurt. The more he plays, the more he limps. He won’t be around past this contract.

by ugarte on Dec 14, 2009 5:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

On the subject of penalties...

Shouldn’t Mike Smith have been ejected for smashing his headset on the field of play?

by PilneyPark on Dec 13, 2009 10:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

not really

He was complaining that the cbs were playing like all cbs do. He said to let them play football. I noticed on the next Atlanta series that Jenkins did the same thing and he didn’t get called.

by Saintsfan75 on Dec 14, 2009 1:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

not only that

  but not sure if he said it aloud or not but they did a close up of his tirade and he said MotherF***er. To me that shows alot of class NOT. Not all calls are going to go your way, hubby said “That’s football and he was sure Payton has let loose with a few choice words too”, what do you say?

by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 14, 2009 7:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Last week I blamed it on lucky playcalling

But after watching some highlights through the season, the defense does not look nearly as fast as earlier this year. Not just in the secondary either, the linebackers and D-line don’t look explosive anymore. And here comes another short week with a good offensive team coming in. Looks like another high scoring, nail biter next week. With basically the entire team dinged up besides Brees and the receivers, expect another aerial assault.

by howarjo1943 on Dec 14, 2009 1:20 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

The fake FG was a real bad idea

Hartley needs to be in these pressure situations and we have to see how he performs as a kicker

Brunell had the option of thrpwing to a 340 lb lineman who was covered ( how high do you think he’s going to jump?) or to Dinkins who was short of the first down. He tried to give Dinkins time to get to the 1st down marker but it ust didn’t happen.

"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking

by Philinwood on Dec 14, 2009 9:10 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Charles Grant

Undisclosed sports hernia injury.

It’s his only hope.

And if the law don't get her, then I will
Four little diamonds

by stujo4 on Dec 14, 2009 11:44 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Stomach-staple surgery

It’s his only hope.

Being a Saints fan will take years off your life

by MobileSaint on Dec 14, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Payton & GW not showing their hands

If you think back to the beginning of the year, the D started in basic formations and vanilla schemes. As the season has rolled on they have expanded with more exotic play. When a major opponent appears GW gets deeper into the playbook showing just enough to win. He flashed this reasoning vs. Brady. I say that the D’s regression in recent weeks is as much due to not wanting to show prospective playoff opponents any tendencies or schemes on film to have for study. If they don’t know what our D is going to do, or haven’t had time to prepare for it, GW can then attack with better results. These are NFL coaches and players we’re going against. Give them enough info and they’ll figure you out. I say as long as we are winning to let the other team try to guess how to scheme for us rather than knowing. This way it’s advatage us.

by WhoDat_OH on Dec 14, 2009 12:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

a great point

and something I have thought about. Kind of risky and dangerous, though, don’t you think? Playing defense JUST ENOUGH to win?

Hope you’re right.

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by Saintsational on Dec 14, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Extremely risky

But so is this mindset that whatever happens or how far behind they fall that they can still win the game, i.e. just playing one step above the opponent. They need to start playing with some urgency. Sounds strange for a 13-0 team but it’s a sense I get.

Let’s just hope one trend continues. They do also play up to opponents’ level.

by WhoDat_OH on Dec 14, 2009 9:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

my take...

I think as far as the defense goes, we are really missing our two star corners. With better coverage skills on the field, the FS (Sharper) doesn’t have to worry about being caught out of position as much and can focus on making plays on the ball. When he has to worry about taking up the slack, he seems to loose focus and I think his age is showing. He aint fast so I think we are seeing the effects on his play from having bad coverage guys lined up at corner. Grant has got to move. Either to the sideline or to the middle. I think putting Grant’s big slow ass in the DT position with Ellis lined up next to him and move Hargrove who we all know should be a DE in his spot would be more productive. I can see Hargrove as being more of a disruption in pass rush and quicker to the sideline chasing a QB or RB than Grant. Grant has put on weight and is strong and has experience at the DT position so I feel he would do better there than at DE. Our defense has been really lacking lately but in the grand scheme of things, anyone who says this team is not elite and has not played any real opponents this year is very wrong. Some of those opponents if you remember were good enough to take big leads in games like by two and three touchdowns. Only great teams find a way to come back and win and with that said, we are 13-0 so we must be one of those teams. nuff said.

by narco301 on Dec 14, 2009 1:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

oh i forgot to say...

I to want to blow out teams we play because my heart can’t take this down to the wire stuff and three point games, but when its over, we are three point champs and thats all that counts.

by narco301 on Dec 14, 2009 1:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Two things

I really hope there is no let down for the upcoming Dallas game. I don’t go for the “they can’t win in December” thing. They have big receivers and like everyone has already said we had a huge let down in coverage yesterday. We got really lucky on some drops on their part. I know it’s personal but my family is all in Louisiana and Texas and only two of us are Saint fans so there’s been family woofing all year.
Secondly I saw someone ask about Malcolm Jenkins brands on his arm. He’s in the fraternity Omega Psi Phi “Nasty Q Dogs”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ZAKFLTcJQ&feature=related

by BigTMill on Dec 14, 2009 3:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Winning close games is better for Saints than huge wins. Take nothing for granted.

Irvin said he would trade Hall of Fame spot and SB rings for one undefeated season. Maybe it is worth going for the brass ring.

by WarWolf on Dec 15, 2009 6:47 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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