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New Orleans Saints' Offensive Player Grades vs. Cowboys

Needless to say, these are a lot more fun to do after a win. If you're still feeling bad, though, consider that you didn't have to sit through re-watching the first three quarters of that game. Quite frankly the Saints deserved to lose that game.

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Drew Brees: C- (3.17) It wasn't all on him, but Brees just didn't play that well. Granted, while he fumbled twice he was under constant pressure all day long. If not for his pocket presence and awareness he would have been sacked way more than 4 times. His interception was just a bad read and an even worse throw. He did not do a good job of making throws on third down. A subpar game for the Saints' superstar, and his MVP push may have taken a hit. He made some nice throws late on the rally, but the Saints were in too big of a hole to climb out. He finished 29-45 for 298 yards, 1 touchdown and 1 interception. He rushed twice for 8 yards, lost two fumbles, and caught a batted pass of his before getting tackled for a 4 yard loss.

Reggie Bush: B- (2.61) Hard to give him a full grade because he left with an injury and didn't return. Too bad, he was playing pretty well before he left. His one run was a beautiful 29 yard sprint down the left sideline. He also caught 2 passes for 17 yards, one of which had significant real estate if he hadn't come up gimpy. Give him credit also for running forward on his lone punt return. Ultimately, he didn't see enough action to make a difference.

Mike Bell: C+ (2.73) Bell never really got a chance to get going. He was stuffed on his first attempt. He had a couple of nice runs early in the 4th quarter, including a touchdown run, but he finished with just 8 yards on 4 carries. Not enough opportunity.

Pierre Thomas: C+ (3.05) Thomas was unusually quiet, other than a screen pass he took for 29 yards late. He never really got going in the running game, and the Saints abandoned it to catch up. He did a decent job as a security valve in the passing game. He had just 20 yards on 6 carries, and 50 yards on 5 receptions.

Marques Colston: B (2.95) Colston, to me, didn't seem to get that open. He has great hands and a nice frame to make some impressive grabs, but I felt like he never got much separation from the Dallas defense. Fortunately, Brees went to him in tight windows and it seemed to work. He finished with a pretty decent game, 5 catches for 86 yards.

Lance Moore: B- (2.54) Again, hard to grade him because Brees never really looked his way and he didn't play all that much. He filled in on punt return duties when Bush left, and got hit hard on one where he should have called for a fair catch. Moore did get a touchdown on a screen pass, though, which also included nice blocking by Meachem and Colston. That was his lone catch, but it gave the Superdome new life as it brought the game within striking distance.

Devery Henderson: D+ (2.83) Henderson was covered by Mike Jenkins all night like a blanket. On the interception, Jenkins was step for step with him. There were several other plays where Brees would try to get Henderson involved and he was just not open. On a terribly underthrown ball by Brees in the end zone at one point, Henderson was covered but did a nice job adjusting to the pass. Unfortunately on that play, he dropped an easy touchdown catch. Devery Henderson and "drops" have been becoming all too synonymous lately. He finished with just 2 catches for 22 yards, but did a good job of breaking a tackle and getting out of bounds late to at least give the Saints a chance.

Robert Meachem: B- (3.17) 5 catches for 43 yards in the game. Nothing great, nothing terrible. 

David Thomas: A- (2.47) Thomas was by far the most used weapon in the passing game. He stepped in for an injured Shockey and did a great job of showing soft hands and ability after the catch. He finished with an impressive 8 catches for 77 yards. Good thing I picked him up and started him in my fantasy league right as I heard Shockey was out for the game. Thomas also threw two monster lead blocks for Mike Bell on the first touchdown drive, and he also sprung the Reggie Bush run free with a nice seal. Shockey is a big part of what the Saints do, but I can't really say there was any dropoff with Thomas in the game.

Jermon Bushrod: D- (2.54) I long considered giving him my second F of the season. He definitely deserves an F for his play, but I think Bushrod shows effort and he at least threw a beautiful block on Bush's run. In pass protection, he was a disaster. Dallas finished with 4 sacks, all coming from the left side. One of those was on Pierre Thomas, but the fact that Anthony Spencer went twice to hit Brees untouched was inexcusable. Anytime DeMarcus Ware was in the game, he beat Bushrod like a red headed step child. If it wasn't for Brees' pocket awareness, Bushrod would have been responsible for many more atrocious offensive plays. As the NFL Network crew pointed out, his footwork and balance were terrible. Maybe it's time to give Zach Strief another go. Whether it was using speed, power, or anything at all, Ware made Bushrod look like he was out of high school. Embarassing performance by the left tackle.

Carl Nicks: C (3.03) Nicks just didn't get it done. He didn't help Bushrod, he didn't get his usual push in the running game, and his pass protection was nothing special. Granted, he never really got a chance to show what he could do in either situation because the Saints hardly ran the ball and Bushrod was getting beat much faster than anyone else on the line.

Jonathan Goodwin: B (3.17) Goodwin showed nice toughness bouncing back from an injury and he played overall pretty well. He made most of his assignments, created running lanes, and did a good job of letting Brees step up in the pocket with constant outside pressure.

Jahri Evans: C+ (3.24) Evans had a holding penalty and he didn't have his best game in pass protection. At times he manhandled his man, but at others his play was average. Overall the whole line deserves criticism for the poor job running the ball and the horrendous job protecting Brees.

Jon Stinchcomb: C (2.81) Stinchcomb was fortunate to get an illegal contact call on the Cowboys on the same play that he was completely beat and allowed his man to sack Brees within about a second of the ball getting snapped. I'm not sure Stinchcomb even laid a finger on the defender on that play. He was beaten around the edge several times, but he was bailed out often by Brees' feet and/or Bushrod's superior awfulness.

My Offensive Player of the Game: David Thomas

 

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Who Was Your Offensive Player of the Game?
David Thomas
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Drew Brees
29 votes
Marques Colston
30 votes
Anyone Not Named Jermon Bushrod
260 votes

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The loss sucked.

And I’m not happy about it, but I feel like it might be good for us. Not only can we now rest our starters against the Panthers (which is good, because we are really banged up right now) because they managed to take down the Vikings, but I feel like the weight of being 13-0 was affecting not only the players, but also Payton. It had seemed that his play calling had gotten a little more conservative, to more of a dink and dunk passing attack rather than his usual aggressive / attacking play calling. A lot more screen passes, fewer run plays, less shotgun and play action, and more of Drew under center, dropping back and throwing for a 3 yard completion rather than taking the shot downfield.

Maybe that’s just me though?

by natde1016 on Dec 21, 2009 1:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

That’s played a large part in it, and that’s why I’m overjoyed that the Panthers pulled off the upset over Minnesota. We can (should) cruise through Tampa Bay and can then sit our starters for the last week of the season with homefield locked up.

The injuries explain the defensive struggles, but the offense isn’t banged up much. We need to get the running game going immediately.

by natde1016 on Dec 21, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this.

Since when did the Saints become dink and dunkers on offense?

by Totally Spoil on Dec 21, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree, this loss was disgusting!

It’s not losing the game that bothers me, it’s the way we lost the game. And the way we’ve played the last month. Funny you’ve mentioned the Dink n Dunk game. I’ve noticed that Drew is not a Dink n Dunk QB. He’s the best QB in the league when he throws medium to deep passes. Funny when other teams dink n dunk they gain 10 plus yards, when we dink n dunk it’s either 3 yards, incomplete, or no gain.

 We’re not a dink n dunk style of offense. So Payton enough of dink n dunkin, thats when we get in trouble. And also we’ve punted more these past few weeks. Unacceptable. If were No.1 offense in the league, lets get back to scoring 34 + points a game! Not unlucky 17! And I’m worried about our banged up defense. If we’re back to our lack of performance on defense, then we need to run up the score. Period!

by Jricky70 on Dec 21, 2009 2:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

That loss was tough. I flew down for the weekend to see the game and it was my first regular season game iv seen in my 10+ years of following the saints and my first time in the great city of New Orleans. All I have seen was 2 preseason games up in Cinci. But of course our first loss had to come the only game I see live, go figure. It hurt but taking a step back I dont see how we could continue to play like that going into the playoffs so this should make us better in the long run. Carolina sure eased that pain from the weekend.

by DeuceIsLoose26 on Dec 21, 2009 2:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Let's not forget our nemesis!

3rd down! Whether it’s 3rd and 10 or 3rd and short, it’s hurting us again. 1 for 7 on 3rd down will not win games. My best bet is to get 1st downs on 1st and 2nd down. We’re not a short yardage style offense, we’re a medium to big play down the field offense.

by Jricky70 on Dec 21, 2009 3:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Dink n Dunk

True….when Brees gets in dink n dunk mode, thats when we’re in trouble. When you have Colston, moore,meachem, Henderson..(when he’s not dropping the ball) You go down the field. We’re supposed to be an air coryell style offense, payton and brees need to forget dink n dunk was ever invented in the playbook. Thats when you get in too many 3rd down situations, and punting. Most games we would either punt once or none or maybe twice.

  Now it’s becoming more frequently. And thats when we get in trouble.

  I love Drew Brees to death! But when he has a bad game, I get so frustrated with his batted balls, throwing into the ground, fumbles and INT’s.

   Where has our A game been? We need it back very soon.

by Jricky70 on Dec 21, 2009 4:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I just read that Colston has 8 drops on the season...tied for 6th most in the league

Jeff Duncan’s film study article from nola.com

Holywoo put it up as a fanshot a few hours ago…

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by HansDat on Dec 21, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

“Most games we would either punt once or none or maybe twice. Now it’s becoming more frequently. And thats when we get in trouble.”

I think you’re overrating the Saints’ offense on the whole. The Saints entered the game having punted 41 times in 13 games. That’s in excess of three punts per game on average. Morstead punted 4 times against the Cowboys. That’s nothing to go full retard over. They’ve obviously punted at least that many times before in a game this season, or their per game average couldn’t exceed three. I’d even be willing to go out on a limb and say that, based on that per game average, “once or none or maybe twice” probably doesn’t apply to very many games this season at all. Certainly not most of them. Yes, they’re more efficient than most offenses in the league. But they’re not a machine. They’ve have never been a machine.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Dec 22, 2009 8:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Colston's drops

Yeah he’s had some not so good games or some great games. I tell you who I wish we had on our offense! Imagine having Larry Fitzgerald on our team.

 He’s a unique receiver where he fights for the ball. Even when he’s covered, he finds a way to get the ball. He’s a huge playmaker! Imagine him and colston rotating through the games

by Jricky70 on Dec 21, 2009 5:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i’d rather have demarcus ware

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by knucklesmalone on Dec 23, 2009 1:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

WE ARE EXPECTING TOO MUCH FROM DREW BREES!!!

He completed almost 65% of his passes, threw for almost 300 yds, threw for one touch down, had only 1 interception (cmon- he threw 45 times!!! that’s like 2 games for some QBs). If Henderson doesn’t drop a pass in the endzone (and the other drops) his passer rating would be near 100 instead of 82. Is it Brees fault we only ran like 12 times?? We are expecting too much. Are those fumbles his fault when DeMarcus Ware forces a fumble on his blind side as he is trying to do a hail mary? Is it his fault Reggie gets imjured again or that we don’t have a FB because Shockey is injured, Dave Thomas has to play TE, and Malelei hasn’t learned how to pick up a blitz yet??

You gotta go a little lighter on the star of our team when he has a good day and not a great day. Do you know how hard it is to complete 29 of 45 passes when 1) people are dropping passes 2) players are injured and you juggle personnel around 3) your head coach forgets to establish the run or countract a pass rush with a screen pass, and 4) your offensive lkine has a bad day? Not to mention that Dallas was desperate and played their best game of the season and our defense put us in a huge hole to start?

"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking

by Philinwood on Dec 21, 2009 6:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It's not Drew Brees Fault!

I never blamed Drew Brees. He played his ass off the whole game and was pressured every down. The offensive line was the problem. They did not protect him. And Reggie is becoming too injury prone i agree. And our defense is a huge concern! We can’t stop the run, we’re allowing big plays again. And no doubt that Dallas played extremely well.

  And why is it when we get the ball in the 1st quarter we get into a pass happy mode and not mixing the running game. There’s a few unanswered questions.

  I never blamed this game on Drew…the whole game was on his shoulders.

by Jricky70 on Dec 21, 2009 7:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Brees sucked, time to usher in the Tim Tebow era..

Seriously tho…. No mention of the RB’s poor blocking and chipping on the edge rushers. The backs were all dinged up, save Reggie, going in so I thought it would be 70%-30% passing anyway with Reginald Bush absorbing a heavy load running and passcatching. Unfortunately our China Doll got hurt and the Tackles could not hold that line. BTW, was that interference or what on Colston on the first play after the Cowboys missed that gimme field goal. That was a cruicial no-call because the Saints ended up burning like a minute trying to make that first first down.

by howarjo1943 on Dec 21, 2009 8:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Brees didn't have a good game

Is it his fault that people dropped the ball some? No. Is it his fault that he was missing Shockey this game and that the O-line did a horrible job blocking? No. Is it his fault that he threw the Int? Yes. Is it his fault he fumbled? Yes. I don’t care that the line didn’t protect. When you drop back to pass, you keep the ball at your chest with both hands on the ball. That way, if you get hit from behind, you don’t lose the ball. Drew never does that. He fumbles more than anyone else on the team but people just blow it off. If a RB gets hit from behind do you blame it on another player? No, you blame it on him for not protecting the ball. Drew had a terrible game. Have to have better ball security!

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by skinnykinney on Dec 22, 2009 12:48 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Dink and dunk has nothing to do with this loss. More like failure to move the chains. Airing it out for 60 minutes gets you a break even season at best. We’ve already determined that the last two seasons. Dink and dunk got us to the NFC championship. McAllister running, Bush on screen passes five or six times a game. Don’t mistake firepower for effectiveness. Don Coryell never won a Super Bowl.

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by coldpizza on Dec 22, 2009 8:22 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

every QB in the league who gets blindsided fumbles often

and RB don’t have to pass the ball, so 0there is absolutely no comparison to when a QB gets blindsided and when a RB gets hit from behind. Brees was trying to throw a hail mary at the end of the game. There is no reason to play careful at that point. You are rolling the dice and hoping your linemen get the job done. Some of you guys kill me the way you sing Brees’ praises when he has the best game in NFL history and then the Saints lose one game a few weeks later and all of a sudden he is this inferior type QB. And check the stats- Manning throws ints, Favre throws ints, Montana threw them, Marino- it’s part of the game. When you throw 45 times and don’t run the ball but 13 times, it’s almost a guarantee that yopu will get at least 1 int unles your competition really is bad.

In all due respect, sk, i can tell you never played QB otherwise you wouldn’t be saying that you drop back with the ball at your chest. No QB does that, you would never be able to throw a pass in time. You have the ball positioned for a quick release and of course he has the ball held with 2 hands. But pinned to the chest? At some point the ball has to be positioned to throw and Brees gets rid of the ball so fast- that’s his trademark and the reason the Saints are so successful. To train him to keep the ball at his chest would be extremely counterproductive.

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by Philinwood on Dec 22, 2009 11:59 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

brees was not the problem

weve all seen him have better games, but the only boneheaded plays i remember were his pick and in the 4th when he caught the deflected ball instead of batting it down. but passing it 45 times, something bad is going to happen. im more concerned about the protection, the drops, and the complete lack of a running game. and whatever happened with that psycho who posted about romo being a better qb than brees? was that taken down?

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by DrewBreesManCrush on Dec 22, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ware said he was getting to Brees b/c he was rested and had fresher legs – I don’t know about all that but it seemed like Bushrod could have done a better job of protecting Brees

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by lovingmma25 on Dec 23, 2009 10:15 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

That's athlete to athlete courtesy and respect of the highest caliber!

He could have easily trash talked Bushrod but he took the higher road. Thanks, Mr. Ware. That’s pretty classy of you.

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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 23, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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