My Hatred for the Redskins Burns Me Deep to My Core
by Andrew Juge on Dec 5, 2009 6:00 AM CST
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PrintIt's hard for me to talk objectively about X's and O's when it comes to a Saints-Redskins matchup. If you want to get some insight into my most recent Redskins experience, go HERE. I hate the Atlanta Falcons with a deep passion, but my hatred for the Redskins might even surpass that. Part of the reason for my major distaste is that I grew up abroad going to an American grammar school with a bunch of diplomatic American kids. Since their parents were mostly shipped from DC, they were a bunch of young, arrogant, Redskins fans. Keep in mind this was in the early 90's, so the Redskins were SuperBowl champions at the time (in '91), and I was often mocked for cheering for such a "pathetic" team as the Saints. Granted the Saints actually had very competitive teams in the 90's, but they weren't at the same level as the Redskins and I was made known of it every single day at school. Add to that that I went to college in Virginia, and that two of my fraternity brothers were/are devoted Redskins fans, the problem just keeps getting worse.
Some of the texts messages/emails I've gotten after recent Saints losses to the Redskins I've kept as motivation for the day we destroy them, which will hopefully be this weekend. Some examples:
9/14/08 Saints @ Redskins, 24-29 - I receive the sarcastic "Hope you enjoyed the game".
12/17/06 Redskins @ Saints 16-10, email "How could you lose? We beat you at your house and we suck!"
12/30/01 Redskins @ Saints 40-10, email "40 points in your house?!?! HAIL TO THE REDSKINS, HAIL VICTORY"
This is the kind of crap I've been having to deal with. Of course, we've beaten the Redskins twice over this span of years and I've largely kept my mouth shut, just biding my time for when we were great and they were pathetic. Perhaps this is the time we can go into DC and embarass them beyond repair? I hear Clinton Portis is out, which will do nothing to help their anemic offense.
On paper this really should be a blowout of epic proportions. We average scoring just over 37 points a game (best in the league), while the Redskins average 15.5 (29th in the league). We average much more than double the amount of points they score. Their offense has been so bad they brought in a retired bingo player to call the plays. To the Redskins credit though, they are 7th in the NFL on defense and #1 against the pass. They could present some problems, in theory, when the Saints have the ball. That said, we know their offense will struggle, so the key is just to avoid bailing them out by allowing big plays, or giving them a short field with turnovers. It's really that simple, don't turn it over and avoid giving them plays of 40 yards + and we will win the game handily.
The bottom line, though, is this: I hate the Washington Redskins.
Do you hate the Redskins half as much as I do?
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I hate the San Francisco 49ers
They were just so goddamned perfect most of the time back in the old NFC west days.
ME TOO!
I live in 49er country and let me tell you there is NOTHING WORSE than a 49er fan. Nearly all of them are fair-weather. I cant get most of the folks that heckeled me relentlessly during the 80’s and 90’s to even admit they are fans these days.
Where were you in the 80s?
I was living in San Francisco, and it was hard.
Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston
On my way
I am leaving for the game in Landover this A.M. I was there last year, when we could not get a 1st. down to run out the clock. Hence the Moss td catch. I want revenge in the worst way for that. Anyone going to the game early, we will be tailgating in the Burgundy R.V. lot. Look for a Shockey jersey, and a winning attitude.
A SAINT in Panther country
by carolinasaintsfan on Dec 5, 2009 7:01 AM CST reply actions
leaving tomorrow
morning at 730 should have plenty of time to get to the game on time from North Jersey. I am soooo psyched for this game! 2 in 1 year Lucky Lucky me! Will look for ya! I will be in my Archie Manning throwback or my gold Marques Colston shirt, not sure which one I will have on yet. Daughter hasn’t decided on a shirt yet. Does anyone know of construction in DE or MD on I-95?
by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 5, 2009 8:26 AM CST up reply actions
Don't forget
that long 3rd or 4th down conversion to Cooley when we were backed on the goal line on the game-winning drive. Or Chris Horton’s 3-turnover day. That was fun. Too bad neither of them are playing :(
We'll be there early too!
Plan to be tailgating in the Green lot. We’ll be the ones with the Dixie beer fixing brats on the grill. I’ll be in my suede Saints jacket. I believe the others with us have a Brees jersey and a Colston jersey. Saints fans welcome to stop by if you’re in the area!
"The Saints made the right decision signing Drew Brees-not just in terms of his arm, but because of his heart and mind." - Marshall Faulk
This should be an interesting game for Redskins pass defense
Saints should win- but in regards to Skins pass defense.
They haven’t faced any top – tier QBs yet (Brees, P Manning, Brady, Rivers, Favre, Palmer (?) , Schaub (?) Rogers )
Have faced some bad QBs or inexperienced QBs (Stafford, Casel, Josh Johnson, Delhomme) and some good QBs who were not playing good or aren’t playing good (E Manning, Bulger,Romo, Orton??). So, although they look good, I think we will be able to move the ball, but I don’t think we will go up and down the field at will .
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
Can't judge their D by ratings
Their Pass D ratings are a little skewed since most teams just run the ball against them. When pass yards are needed they can be had. Hell if Tony Romo can throw on em I’m sure Drew and his supporting cast can.
by WhoDat_OH on Dec 5, 2009 12:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
man how could you not put the Vikes up there
this had nothing to do with the Viking post that Ive been arguing with over at it ,but how could you not include the team that has either beaten us in the playoffs or tooken us out of playoff contention.No other team has affected our playoff hopes more than them.year end and year out theve screwed us over someway.Thats why I hope we dont even half to deal with them and they lose, in their first round theve tooken our mojo more than any of them.Even when we we’re better they stole it from us,this is the only year where every single time someone brings up the past,this is the first team to not fall into those traps for once when they say NO hasnt ever done this we do it.
Yeah, Vikes how could we forget
our play-off spoiler, we owe them big time. It’s payback year.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
tooken
lol thats a good one
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by knucklesmalone on Dec 6, 2009 12:54 AM CST up reply actions
Greg
I feel sorry for the Campbell Greg going to mug this guy!! With Portis out and Hall is doubtful this should be a big time victory!! Got to say it"Any Given Sunday"
WE ARE NEW ORLEANS
The Redskins offense seems to have gotten better since Portis went out. Which makes sense when you consider the guy is 49 years old and demands the ball every snap.
by saveyourboredom on Dec 5, 2009 10:03 AM CST reply actions
Were it not for Dave the Falconer I would hate Dallas and ATL equally.
But with the Falconer out there, I have to go with Dallas. Does anyone actually like Dallas? And if so, what is wrong with those people?!
I gotta' admit, Dave the Falconer is a pretty cool guy. Also Tom Slick. Pretty neat website there.
They’ll go back and forth with you till the cows come home! Lots of fun.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers
by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 6, 2009 7:00 AM CST up reply actions
saint's fan in TEXAS
I must not be the only WHODAT fan in TEXAS . In the words of Homer Simson Woooo!!! Hoooo!!!
OldFartFan
As am I...
I live in Houston also. There are a lot of Who Dat’s in The Woodlands (a suburb of Houston for those not familiar with the landscape around here).
Really proud of ya'll
I want the Saints to take the “Americas Team” label from Dallas and it is very nice taking some of their population too. There are lots of people around the country that follow the Saints and the more they win the more fans they get.
America's Team?
That’s what they still call the Atlanta Braves. Hmmmmm. Same label/same losing ways. Coincidence? I think not.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers
by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 5, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Christmas season has my work schedule going nuts!
Check out my “How I Watched the Perfect Game” post. Hope you enjoy it!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers
by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 5, 2009 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
The Redskins aren't #1 against the pass...the Saints are
Redskins are only #10.
Ohhhh….you meant in yards allowed. Yeah, that really counts for a lot. The Saints give up more yards in garbage time because the other team is always desperate to catch up, so that proves we’re deficient. Right.
Actually, it’s opponents’ average passer rating that really counts for a lot. The Saints hold the opposing passer to an average of 57.6. Mediocre-to-bad quarterbacks (Jason Campbell, anyone?) fare even worse. That means for all the yards they may get, they get no points…just intercepted. And yeah, we lead in interceptions, too. Washington? They’re 27th.
Drew will toy with them.
(BTW…I hate the Redskins. Always have. After what DC did to Virginia 1861-65, I’m amazed the people there can be such ardent Redskins fans. I figure they’re all displaced Yankee fed employees.)
Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston
Most of us
have gotten over the events of 1861-65. Then again, I guess the losses stick with you more than the wins. Though last year’s win over the Saints still sticks with me pretty well… Hm, go figure.
Hard TO hate
frann was a great leader reminds me of another small guy that’s even greater. Sorry, want to,but just can’t hate the Vik’s. But will enjoy watching littleman DREW kick their butt’s.
OldFartFan
Frann Tarkenton was one of the best quarterbacks to never win a Superbowl.
However, my “sorrow” for the Vikings ends right there! Grandpaw Favre and his grandkids are due for a very rude awakening if they play the Saints. I don’t want the Saints to break his bones; I want them to break his heart! That Geritol sucking bum!
Oooooh yea. Now I’m riled up!
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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 6, 2009 6:02 AM CST up reply actions
I voted "other"
because the Patriots aren’t on there. How is that possible? They’re the most loathsome team in the NFL—and like all Boston sports institutions, their fans are INSUFFERABLE.
The only NFC East team I don’t completely hate is the Cowboys, and that’s just to annoy my brother who lives in Dallas and despises them, but I sort of enjoy the Redskins in the same way I enjoy the Raiders in that they’re a formerly solid team slowly being completely destroyed and ridiculed by everyone. It’s like the Jerry Springer Show of the NFC.
OMG
YES that would have been a hard pick for me if both the Boys & Pats were listed. Cant stand either one of them. They have to be the most overblown, overrated teams in the NFL
by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 5, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Pats and Eagles
I have a deep hatred of both of these teams, and I deeply loved that the Saints completely thrashed both of them this year. Pats fans are cockier than just about any other team in the world other than Manchester United. I’m sorry, but if your quarterback’s supermodel wife says that if your team loses the Superbowl she will “run naked through Times Square” then she should be required by law to follow through on the bet.
Eagles fans are simply some of the worst people I’ve ever met in my life. I’ve never been around a group of Eagles fans where I didn’t fear for my life at some point. What kind of horrible person throws snowballs at Santa? Plus, I’ve never seen a city so completely obsessed with a fictional athlete as Philadelphia is with Rocky Balboa. Its kind of creepy.
"That Brees is a good quarterback." - Giants Free Safety Michael Johnson after a 48-27 Saints victory.
No Raiders?
I am an official Raider Hater. Hate ‘em. Despise ’em. Love just watching them get creamed. Liked Jim Plunkett, Ken Stabler, and Richard Seymour… until they became Raiders. Hate them, hate their fans, hate their uniforms, hate their players, hate their player’s mothers.
The only thing worse than losing is not winning.
by Tigernut on Dec 5, 2009 12:27 PM CST reply actions
I can't hate the Raiders
because they’re so self-destructive
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by Dave Cariello on Dec 5, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Ya' gotta have a lot of respect for a team that's owned by a freakin' zombie!
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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 6, 2009 6:04 AM CST up reply actions
Back when Ritchie Pettibone
(N.O. native)was a Redskin assis. coach he said something like"As long as I’m here the Saints will never beat us" and Ithat motivates me to beat them, not hate them, I save that for the Crygirls, I’ll pull for the Deadskins when they play Dallas. Everbody else too.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
Dallas and Green Bay.
I’ve hated Dallas for as long as I can remember. I can’t begin to list the reasons.
But Green Bay? Green Bay can be summed up in two words: Brett Favre. I got sick of his crap REAL quick. For some reason, there was a large group of Packers fans I was associated with when I was younger, and all I ever heard about was Favre. I never really found him that great.
I hate the Denver Broncos for pretty much the same reason you hate the Redskins, having growing up in Western Nebraska. I also hate the 49ers too, and it doesn’t matter to me that our Saints and the 49ers aren’t in the same division any more, they cheated so much in those days, it’ll be enough for me to hate them the rest of my life. The team that I hate the next most, which you listed, is the Dallas Cowboys. -There are also a lot of Cowboy fans in Western Nebraska, too, and I got a lot of crap from them as well.
Same Church, Different Pew
I feel for you, brother. No exaggeration, my earliest memory is of sitting in front of my uncle’s TV, watching the Saints in ‘68 or ’69, while the grownups argued about whether the Saints would EVER rise to the level of the Cowboys. In the early days, there were plenty of leftover Dallas fans in NOLA who didn’t buy into the Saints. My favorite teams have always been the Saints AND whomever is playing the Cowboys.
My hatred has always been directed toward the
Pittsburgh Steelers. They are the black & YELLOW not black & gold! Ask any elementary school kid and they’ll say it’s yellow! Not to mention growing up watching them win everything in the 70’s. I used to say it was funny how that yellow stripe ran down the middle of their helmet and continued all the way down their back.
Long live the real black & gold!!
Screw the black & yellow!!
by WhoDat_OH on Dec 5, 2009 3:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions
They are gold. Gold comes in many colors
"From time to time gunfighters get shot."-Mike Tomlin the third greatest Steelers coach
The Penguins have black & gold
Sid the Kid kicks ass in his black & gold. However, the Steelers are black & yellow. The Packers are green and yellow (not gold as advertised). Maybe it’s because they’re such old school that it once past as gold and they kept it out of tradition. I dunno.
by WhoDat_OH on Dec 5, 2009 5:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I guess the Tigers are purple and yellow
And for that matter, most Mardi Gras-related items are purple, green and yellow…not “gold.”
If we do it, I’m willing to cut Pittsburgh some slack. (Our unis are still better, though.)
Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston
LOL i cant believe nobody said they hate the panthers??
Because i absolutely do.
The Bears!
Need I remind you of the 2006 NFC Championship and some dufus Bears fan with a sign reading, “The Bears—finishing what Katrina started.” I loathe the Bears. I can’t believe they didn’t get more votes. The Cowboys would be my second choice.
"I said this early on that this was a good football team, they just maybe had to have a stick put in certain parts of their body to play a little harder in certain places to where we’re able to take interceptions and score touchdowns."--Gregg Williams
by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 5, 2009 5:06 PM CST reply actions
Love the '85 Bears
Hate the modern Bears. Hate Chicago. The only place in the US that makes Louisiana politics look benign and harmless.
Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston
As much as I can’t stand the Falcons, I gotta put the Stoolers at absolute #1. They play too dirty. Plus they have been successful at it. That’s what elevates my pissed-off-ness. If they were nasty bastards but lost all the time I wouldn’t care. Now unless they go 0-16 for, say, five years straight, they have their spot as the #1 hated team etched in titanium.
How can the Eagles not be on here?!
They are pretty much loathsome because of their fans. They threw snowballs at Santa. They hate pretty much every team most of the time, including their own. The only athletes the seem to have any respect for are Rocky Balboa, Vince Papale, and Chuck Bednarik. They talk all kinds of crap about the NFC championships they’ve been to. There is only one way to shut them up, and that is to point out their lack of rings. The Giants should be in that poll too, they’re overrated and I hope Dallas makes their snobby little fanbase cry like New Orleans did.
Correction
I’m sure not all Eagles and Giants fans are unpleasant, I’ve actually met a few very agreeable ones myself. It’s just that the ones that voice their opinions tend to take that route.
It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.
Where was the choice I wanted?
I voted for other… I hate all 31 other teams…
"Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake." -- Napoleon Bonaparte
they are punished by there name , the washington Foreskins
I think thats the tip of your sausage the doctors through away, Go Saints skin the foreskins…
ATL fer sure
I was trained from a young age to despise the dirty birds. I hold on to that training. My saddest memory was seeing Morten in a falcons jersey. I felt so betrayed….
And it will come to pass that all those who have wronged you will learn that vengance is truly the Lord's ---- but just for the record... You are not the Lord.
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I like it. You write it?
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by Dave Cariello on Dec 6, 2009 1:43 AM CST up reply actions
Agree. Pretty neat poem. Just PLEASE tell me that tattoo is NOT on one of your butt cheeks! :-)
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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 6, 2009 6:07 AM CST up reply actions
There were no choices for "Vikings" or "Whoever is Playing the Saints"
so I went with Chicago. They tend to live in the past more than the Cowboys. Sad. Truely sad.
They lose one star defensive player and their season goes down the toilet. So much for team “depth!” Sad. Truely sad.
Their starting quarterback is . . . Sad. Truely sad.
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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 5, 2009 9:49 PM CST reply actions
WHAT! No New England
I hate the Patriots. Can’t stand the Patriots. There are the biggest cheaters in the NFL. I thought it was hillarious when they got caught, But I also thought it was rediculous when the NFL tried to cover it up. I also thought it was funny when Tom Brady went down with a knee injury last season. And I thought it was even funnier when Bill Belichick looked like an idiot against the Colts and even funnier when he cried about the loss to the Saints. I hope next year they go 0-16.
I don't know, texas cool.
After Monday night I have a little warm spot in my heart for the Patriots. Hee hee!
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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 5, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
I hate the Eagles
And I hate their fans even more.
"The key to them winning is to limit their quarterback to under 20 throws a game." -Cris Carter
I agree...
I’ve hated the skins everysince Dexter Manley spit on one of our lineman. He socked the SOB, drew a penalty that pushed Morten back for a 50 yarder. He missed adn we lost…b*st*rd.
Everybody hates the Pats...
…but that’s just bcoz they’ve been kicking butt for so long…
The COW…whatever from Dallas, West Louisiana are the team I just reaaaally love to hate…glad December is here and they’ll soon start crumbling! YEAH!
From a Cowboys Fan
Stands up and raises hand.
“Hello. My name is dfan77 and I’m a Dallas Cowboys fan.”
My love of the Cowboys — and the NFL — began when I was just 11. I got a copy of “Boy’s Life” magazine that featured Tony Dorsett during the summer after he’d been drafted by the Cowboys. I can’t explain exactly why, but in reading that article and seeing those pictures of the blue star, I just fell in love. And go figure — I am a California native and was living in the heart of Niner territory at the time. (I had no clue about the rivalry that would develop there — let alone “The Catch.”)
I didn’t fall in love because they were “America’s Team.” It was much more basic than that. I still can’t explain it.
Please note, this was also before the Boys’ SB win over Denver that year, in your Superdome, 27-10. Unfortunately, I was spoiled early.
As I said, I fell in love with the NFL, too — especially the NFC, because even then I knew enough to root for the old school conference. My four sisters didn’t understand it at all. My dad had died like 4 years before, so I was the lone guy in a sea of females. I decorated my whole room with NFL stuff — whatever I could afford, which were pennants and cut-out photos from old SI issues. I was short, so I had to stand up on chairs while pinning up my pennants.
I could afford five. The Cowboys was on top (of course). Below that were the Falcons, Lions, Packers and Saints. Not in any particular order — I can’t remember. And obviously, I wasn’t considering rivalries then, lol. I was 11 and barely knew anything, except that the Cowboys were my favorite team.
On the walls, I had pictures of Staubach, Drew Pearson, Dorsett, Randy White. And. . .Archie Manning, Fran Tarkenton, Gary Danielson, etc.
Later, after I got a paper route, I could afford the Cowboys helmet lamp. Woot!
My point?
Through every year, good and bad, I’ve stuck with my team. I don’t buy into the America’s Team stuff — that was branded by an NFL Films producers and, sadly, embraced by the Boys’ management at the time.
I broke my finger punching the floor after “The Catch.”
I was despondent during our late 80s suckage.
I was elated in the early/mid-90s.
And I’m wary and disappointed now as we head into another December.
I don’t talk much smack. I don’t disrespect other fans or teams. I don’t jump on bandwagons.
But I write this to let you know one guy’s story. I guess, back then, I didn’t have a ton of reason to fear the Saints, as a Boys fan — just speaking the truth. Maybe that made them easier to like. I’m always one for rooting for the underdog.
So yeah, I’ll root for my underdog Cowboys in a few weeks. I’d root for them against any team, including your Saints, under any circumstances. That’s what a fan does. I’d love for us to break up your perfect record, beat you in the playoffs, and for us to win a Superbowl again.
You want the same thing.
The difference?
I’m not gonna ever call you out on hating you — ever. You beat us in a few weeks? I’ll deal, as I have with many other clutch losses. I might break another finger.
But I have some serious respect for the things your team, and you fans, have been through — and even more respect for the way you’ve hung in there in built it all up.
You guys look amazing — props all around.
But I’m still a Cowboys fan.
Just not a jerk about it.
Good luck. May the best teams win.
(Note: The above post should be read with "The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You" playing in the background.)
Your post sounds like it is heartfelt and I’d really like to say, “Good luck, Cowboys fan.” but, naaaaa.
We Saints Fans smell blood in the water and we’ve gone off the deep end. This is new territory for us and we are frothing at the mouth. I’d like to quit my job and be like the dog that retrieved the kicking tee on all fours. I’d paint my face Gold and have someone punch me for the Black eyes. If the opposing team’s bus was on fire I’d keep honking my horn. All I want for Christmas is Jerry’s two front teeth. I hope your cheerleaders all get “the bug.” I want a Grand Jury to find that Romo shot Kennedy. You probably thought Tebow’s tears were, “cool.” Your loving Cowboys have a few Superbowl rings and you want to let us know how painful it is to continue to support a team that is having a sucking season? That’s like the Karate Kid telling Miyagi, “Wax on. Wax off.”
Do me a favor. Next time you want to post a message here (sorry, saintsational) talk a little smack. I hate attacking an unarmed man.
No disrespect ment.
(I visited the Cowboys blog a few hours ago. They have a 20 paragraph manifesto on what is appropriate and what is not. Makes the 10 Commandments look like mere suggestions! Then, you have to wait 24 hours before you can post a comment. I guess they do a background check? Well, I won’t be posting anything there. They have probably read this and I’m on their “ka ka” list!)
Shit, I though venting was supposed to make your blood pressure go down!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers
by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 6, 2009 6:40 AM CST up reply actions
Once again...
A team we are not playing yet is looking ahead to their game with us. It’s nice to know that fans of other teams see us on the horizon and are afraid of the result.
"Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake." -- Napoleon Bonaparte
BIRTH RITE
If you were born and raised in L.A. from Ida to MorganCity ya just gotta be diehard St. fan. It’s un American not to be. I loved the interveiw a few years back with the Manning brothers you know somewhere at the deapth of their heart,s even they are tickel’d for dem der St.s.
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