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"This is the year!" Open Thread

The Super Bowl is over, a champion has been crowned and the official start of the NFL off-season is upon us. Let me be the first to welcome you. And now that the 2008 season is already three days behind us, there is only one thing for us all to do. Start getting excited about 2009! Even the guys in Vegas have already started thinking about next season. Check out the 2010 Super Bowl odds they've already come out with, courtesy of BoDogLife.com. Early huh?

 

Team Odds to win Super Bowl XLIV
New England Patriots  8/1
Dallas Cowboys  9/1
New York Giants 10/1
Pittsburgh Steelers 10/1
Indianapolis Colts 12/1
San Diego Chargers 12/1
Baltimore Ravens 14/1
Tennessee Titans 16/1
Carolina Panthers 18/1
Philadelphia Eagles 18/1
New Orleans Saints 20/1
Atlanta Falcons 25/1
Denver Broncos   25/1
Green Bay Packers 25/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 25/1
Minnesota Vikings 25/1
New York Jets 25/1
Arizona Cardinals  30/1
Chicago Bears  30/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 30/1
Buffalo Bills 35/1
Houston Texans 35/1
Miami Dolphins 35/1
Washington Redskins 35/1
Seattle Seahawks 50/1
Cleveland Browns 55/1
Cincinnati Bengals 60/1
San Francisco 49ers 60/1
Oakland Raiders 75/1 
St. Louis Rams 75/1
Detroit Lions  100/1
Kansas City Chiefs 100/1

 

 


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These odds can't help but make us think about all the possibilities that the 2009 season brings and the realization that the score is once again set back to zero for everyone. This is the time of year when all Saints fans forgive and - more importantly - forget  It's as if we all get flashed with one of those "Men in Black" memory eraser thingies, forget about all the crap we just painfully suffered through, and expect a championship team the next time around while completely ignoring the Saints glaring deficiencies. Of course after months and months of excitement and anticpation it all ends miserably in disappointment as the vicious cycle starts anew and the circle of life makes yet another loop.

But right now we're in that meaty part of the curve. It's the part that comes immediately after the bitter disappointment of last season and right before the mental anguish of next season. When every team, even ours, is a possible Super Bowl champion. So consider this thread open for anyone and everyone to share their feelings about this off-season and the Saints season ahead. Do you think this the year? Are the Saints underrated in the Super Bowl odds above? What moves are you hoping to see the Saints make. Lay it all out now. I promise it will be good for a laugh next January.  

Personally, I'm done with all the blind optimism crap. I looked at the bright side of every situation last spring and summer and all it ever got me was down. So I've got a new mantra that will define mine and Canal Street Chronicles' take on the 2009 New Orleans Saints this off-season.

Cautious optimism.

That's right. Think about it; it still means I've got hope and believe in the Saints but it acknowledges that I'm smart enough to know better. It also saves me from the frustrations of another disappointing Saints season. Do I think Deuce McAllister will still be in black and gold next season? I'm cautiously optimistic. Is Gregg Williams going to turn this defense around? I'm cautiously optimistic. Will Josh Bullocks start at safety for the Saints in 2009? I'm cautio...he $&*#% better not! Anyway, you get the idea. 

And in case you doubt my seriousness and commitment to this new philosophy, feel free to check out the tag line next to the CSC title at the top of the main page. It's official. This is a cautiously optimistic Saints blog. I felt it fair that you know just where the Chronic stands as we head into the off-season. But that's just me. I don't expect you to agree with me. In fact, I'd rather you not. But I do want to hear what you have to say. The floor is open...

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pass the memory thing..

I am ready to forget and start over. Little to the left there .. Ahhh sweet forgetfulness.

Go Saints!

You be cautious…

Our defense better not be. Aggressive, hard hitting, AWARE of the ball. That is what I want out defense to be and …. could it be possible they will be?.

Our offense is the best. Brees can throw to anyone that will commit to catching it. So those bum errr less then stellar catchers out there need to work on that and they too can have season like Moore.

Our kickers showed they could be solid. A repeat of their performance last year, well the end of it only PLEASE!, would remove a lot of fear of game endings.

All in all.. I feel that the only way the Saints cannot challenge for the Super Bowl is… if they remove themselves from the game… as they have done year after year.

MT

by MT_always on Feb 4, 2009 7:14 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

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if they remove themselves from the game… as they have done year after year.

Ain’t it the truth?

Yes, I will also be cautiously optimistic. I’ve already decided not to say “I really think the Saints can win it all this year— Super Bowl!!” to my Cowboys fan boss. In August. That was dumb. I probably jinxed it for us all. Sorry about that. Zippin’ it. Tic a lock.

Change is GOOD.

by stujo4 on Feb 4, 2009 9:13 AM CST reply actions  

You've got better odds than us?

Did they want to, you know, wait until you guys at least get through your draft before they declare that? Not that you guys won’t improve and can’t deserve that ranking, but this early? Color me perplexed (which I believe is a shade of blue).

by Dave Choate on Feb 4, 2009 10:54 AM CST reply actions  

i don't where they come up with stuff Dave

sounds like your a little bitter about the Falcons 25/1 odds (directly below the Saints)

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by Dave Cariello on Feb 4, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

i think...

they said well no way the saints will put that many starters on IR.
Or that they will have to bring injured guys into play because they have so many on the IR they have to play Jason David.

Look at it this way. Your 100 dollar bet will win you more money then ours.

MT

by MT_always on Feb 4, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

You're probably right

I’m not much of a betting man, though. Maybe that stems from losing mad money playing poker in high school.

by Dave Choate on Feb 4, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Well,

while there’s obviously no concrete evidence to support where the Saints and the Falcons end up relative to each other, I can think of plenty of reasons why the Falcons might not repeat the past year’s success. Most notably, Michael Turner’s ridiculous burden in the running game could easily spell an injury (Deuce fans should know), thanks to the inexplicable minimizing of Jerious Norwood. Should the wideouts not overperform for Ryan again next year, it could be the Roddy White show, which, like the Marques Colston show of the 2007 Saints season, will only take you so far.

Defensively, Milloy and Brooking both look to be on their last legs, and however unquantifiable emotional leadership is, it’s a good thing to have. John Abraham’s production will probably get a little more sporadic, also. Hopefully for y’all Lofton’s as good a leader as he is a player.

The Saints, meanwhile, really only need to upgrade their pass rush and their secondary; just improving to mediocre could easily result in a repeat of 2006’s success.

On the other hand, the Falcons could be even better than last year. If you guys pick up a receiving tight end like Chase Coffman, keep Turner healthy, and start using Norwood more, you could have one of the most dynamic offenses in the NFL. Your defense, meanwhile, has some great young talent (Curtis Lofton’s a star, and the trade for Foxworth was one of the most underrated of the year) and could be on the top tier with a more consistent pass rush.

Basically what I’m saying is that it’s all a crapshoot. Naturally, though, I hope you guys lose every game.

"They held somebody, but they sure didn't hold LaRon Landry."

by Walter FTW on Feb 4, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

The current odds

are only a reflection of how Vegas thinks people will bet—not how they’re predicting the season will actually go. They couldn’t give a rat’s ass who wins…they’re just trying to limit their liability at this stage. So many people are betting on New England and (for some reason that God alone knows) Dallas that one dollar will get you only 8 or 9. More people are betting on the Saints than on Atlanta—that’s why we’re listed above you. It’s just the betting public making stupid decisions, like they always do.

Me, I’m going with Detroit. They fell so hard I think they’ll bounce.

Oh when the Saints...Start kicking ass...You don't want to be in that number...

by MtnExile on Feb 4, 2009 12:37 PM CST reply actions  

Jon Kitna style prediction

Lions will win 8+ games next year. You heard it here first.

Change is GOOD.

by stujo4 on Feb 4, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

you know I was thinking the same with DTT ...no BS

I´m sort of pissed that we are not lower though…just 20-1?? Man I wanted to earn some cash!!! :-)

by shecky on Feb 4, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

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