Trading Down

by MarcusR on Feb 4, 2009 9:11 AM CST Comment 4 comments

I was taking a look at this draft picks value chart, and this is what it gives us for rounds 1-4:

Our 1st rounder, #14: 1100

Our 4th rounder, #110: 74

Jets' 4th rounder, #113: 68

Total points for 1-4: 1242

So it looks like we've got plenty to play with. We can ask for a 2009 first and a 2009 second from anyone from Philly on down, possibly even higher than that if we start talking about 2010 picks, which is where I think the real opportunities are. If we can find the optimism in a Buffalo, a Houston or a San Fran, a team that feels like it's on an upswing and is just that one piece away, then I'd suggest we'd be able to talk them into, say, a 2009 second and third (which would be 700 points from SF, 685 from Buffalo or 625 from Houston) and their 2010 first (which, if they're looking at being in the playoffs, is at most 780 but could be lower) for our 2009 first and fourth, plus a 2010 second (assuming we make the divisional round of the playoffs, that'd be around 330).

To put it a more concise way, we could offer the following:

Houston gives us their 2009 2nd and 3rd, and their 2010 first, for our 2009 first and sixth and our 2010 second. (Houston 1428.6, Saints 1430)

Buffalo gives us their 2009 2nd and 3rd, and their 2010 first, for our 2009 first and fifth and our 2010 second. (Buffalo 1465 Saints 1465.5)

San Fran gives us their 2009 2nd and 3rd, and their 2010 first and sixth, for our 2009 first and the Jets' fourth and our 2010 second. (SF 1498 Saints 1498)

Just a few options that might be open to us. Feel free to point out mistakes in my working, or that the other clubs I've mentioned don't have the picks I've suggested, but I think these are things we could do, parlaying our first-rounder this year into multiple picks this year and a first-rounder next year, which is slated to be a monster draft in terms of talent.

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Hmmm...Intresting

I really like this thinking. We need Secondary help. We need a Safety. No one disputes that. There are no top tier Safeties in this year’s draft. There are no (in my humble opinion) Cornerbacks worth a top 14 pick this year either. Vonte Davis’ attitude really bothers me. I’ve read in various places that OSU’s Jenkins is a little over-rated. I wasn’t impressed in his bowl game this year.

Therefore, I personally have no problem with the Saints trading out of the first round this year, and taking our chances with the

Best Defensive Back Available

theory. If we can snag another team’s first round pick for next year, that would give us two first rounders, and increase our chances of landing Taylor Mays. YEAH BABY!!!!!

Alright...I'm cool with Harper. Bullocks must go!

by Hollywoo! on Feb 4, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

On being worth a pick

That is such a crap shoot that it’s irrelevant, in my opinion. Take the case of Justin Tuck, for example. A third-round pick by the New York Giants, he has made people essentially forget about Michael Strahan. If the Giants had chosen him in the 1st round, Mel Kiper and the mousse-and-blow-dry set would have howled in derision. And been wrong. Tuck was eminently worth a 1st rounder, and the Giants got a steal.

Closer to home: Marques Colston was flagged as a lazy, underweight tight end coming out of college. If the Saints had taken him in the first round, passing up Reggie Bush, people would have dropped dead of shock. But it was Colston, not Bush, who was touted for Rookie of the Year until he was hurt. Contrast him to Robert Meachem, who was chosen just about exactly where he was ranked—and who has yet to crack the starting lineup in two seasons. Was he worth the pick?

The only players who are worth their pick are the ones who prove it later on. If we pick Rashad Johnson at #14, and he proves to be the answer to our safety problems, you better believe he’s worth the pick. If not…well, then PayLoo have got some ’splainin to do.

Oh when the Saints...Start kicking ass...You don't want to be in that number...

by MtnExile on Feb 4, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Absolutetly it's a crap shoot. And a gamble...

And hindsight is always 20/20. Teams just have to do their due diligence and make the best decisions with the information they have. If Mays makes it through his Senior year unscathed, and continues to play at an All-American level, I personally would like to see the Saints take a gamble on him, if they have the chance…

Alright...I'm cool with Harper. Bullocks must go!

by Hollywoo! on Feb 4, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Crap shoots are easier when you get a second roll of the dice

Point with trading down is you get, essentially, more chances to strike (black and) gold. This year’s draft’s got a lot of guys who’re underclassmen, and a lot of guys who aren’t seen as necessarily marquee players once you head past the first level. Next year’s, for all that it’s a year away and a week’s a long time in college football let alone a year, is looking like the one to be a big part of.
Oh, and not to blow my own crystal balls or anything, but three teams who’ll think they’re one piece away? Ross Tucker agrees with me. Or reads this blog… http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ross_tucker/02/04/takes/index.html

by MarcusR on Feb 5, 2009 5:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs