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Who Dat Draft Prospect: Vontae Davis

"Davis has the look of a true shutdown corner."
--FootballsFuture.com

When the Saints signed Jabari Greer, they instantly rendered most of the mock drafts in the world obsolete. Those drafts had the Saints choosing a cornerback with their first pick--usually either Malcolm Jenkins or Vontae Davis. A rotation that consists of Greer, the returning Tracy Porter, and Randall Gay as nickel looks strong even without the return of Mike McKenzie. If McKenzie comes back as good as ever, New Orleans may suddenly find itself in the unfamiliar position (to put it mildly) of having one of the best cornerback squads in the NFL.

So why would the Saints draft Vontae Davis? Frankly, I don't know. I don't think they will. But this is called "due diligence"--a lot of people are still convinced we will, or we need to, add a top-ranked corner in the first round. If so, who would that corner be?

Vontae Davis, step into the lights and show us what you've got.

Star-divide

 

STATS

Height: 6-0

Weight: 205

40-yard dash: 4.49

20-yard shuttle: 4.07

Broad jump:

225-lb. bench: 25

3-cone drill: 6.75

Vertical jump:  

Vontae Davis
Davis has the reputation of being the best all-around athlete among this year's crop of defensive backs. Photo Source

Davis burst on the scene as a true freshman in 2006. As the brother of San Francisco's Vernon Davis, and playing in the Big Ten, he came in for a lot of attention, and draftniks have eagerly followed his development. "Throughout his career, Vontae Davis has demonstrated the same caliber of jaw-dropping athleticism as his older brother -- and been even more impressive in his ability to transfer that athleticism into gridiron success. Despite leaving after his junior season, Davis is a two-time first-team All-Big Ten selection at cornerback with a history of stepping up his play against top competition." [NFLDraftScout]

"One of the most physical corners in the country, Vontae Davis didn’t have the same kind of production he enjoyed as a sophomore this past season. But a lot of that has to do with teams not challenging him as much, and from the numbers he posted at the Scouting Combine, it’s no wonder why he wasn’t tested." [Scout.com]

"He is an excellent athlete, with very good speed and has the ability to mirror receivers down the field. He also has a solid build, is tough, and very aggressive on the field. He is an all around corner that will not back down from any challenge, and usually comes out on top when he is issued one." [FootballsFuture.com]

"He would be a great fit for an aggressive team because he's an excellent blitzer. Davis is just as comfortable rushing the passer from the corner spot as he is in coverage." [FFToolBox.com]

Davis has run neck-and-neck in the rankings with Ohio State's Malcolm Jenkins for months. But Jenkins has what was considered a sub-par Combine, and the buzz immediately began that he was more suited to playing safety in the NFL. Not so with Davis. He ran the fastest 40 time of all the "elite" prospects (only Nicholls State's Lardarius Webb ran faster) and bench-pressed more than any other defensive back. But...of course there had to be a but...

Maybe it's in the genes. Davis suffers from the same rep as his big brother Vernon: insanely talented, with an attitude problem. "But for all his athleticism, there are concerns about his desire and consistency." [Sporting News] "Illinois head coach Ron Zook did not start him versus Iowa in 2008 because reportedly felt he wasn't playing as well as he could. Lack of visible improvement from sophomore to junior year is a concern." [ESPN] " Concerns that Vontae, like his brother, Vernon Davis, may lack the drive to turn his unique athleticism into NFL success." [NFLDraftScout.com]

The result of all this is a wildly-fluctuating opinion of where Davis will be taken. Sporting News claims that Davis "doesn't possess the intangibles of a first-round talent, [but] he's worth a second- or third-round pick and should eventually become a starter." I'm not sure what to make of that, however, since they also rank him as the 29th best player in the draft. ESPN ranks him at 24th; NFL Draft Scouts has him even higher, at 16th. Scout.com has him ranked the 12th-best player in the entire draft--yet in each case, Malcolm Jenkins continues to be ranked higher, despite all the talk--coming from the same quarter--that Jenkins may be a safety in cornerback's shoes. This either says something about Davis, or about the people doing the ranking.

Davis had a chance to answer his critics during the interview sessions at the Combine. "Everybody’s going to find a negative, but that’s the main thing," Davis said, when asked about the perception that he’s a high-risk option who doesn’t respond well to coaching. "That’s why I’m here at the Combine, so I can show these coaches that I am a good person and I have a good personality." [Pro Football Weekly] One person who was totally smitten was our own Jeff Duncan: "The kid has a great smile, looks you in the eye and answers every question honestly. Not sure if he can check Steve Smith in single coverage, but in the interview sessions he performed like a Pro Bowler." [Nola.com]

I know where Vontae can find a good press agent.

 

COMPARISON

Sporting News compares Davis to San Diego cornerback Antonio Cromartie. Why? Each came out early? Each has an O in his name? I wish Sporting News would explain the reasons behind these comparisons.

I also wish I had a new Ferrari. I'll let you know which one happens.

 

WHAT'S THE UPSHOT?

Do the Saints need Vontae Davis? Do the Saints even need another cornerback?

Not too long ago--about last Wednesday, in fact--it would have been physically difficult to make your brain form the second question. But now, with Jabari Greer signed and Mike McKenzie at least claiming that his rehab is going just fine, it looks as though the Saints have that cornerback problem all taken care of. Of course, these are the Saints we're talking about, so maybe we can never have enough corners. So if Vontae Davis is still available at 14, he remains a possibility. Let's name that possibility "Meh."

What we really need is a good free safety. There has been a lot of talk about McKenzie rotating back to the safety position, some pro, some con. But if the Saints don't do anything in free agency to correct their safety problem, and they take Davis in the first, my bet would be that moving McKenzie is exactly what they have in mind. Because...they can't start the season with Kaesviharn or Bullocks. Can they? Anyone? Buehler?

 

TRIVIA

Vontae Davis is majoring in "Speech Communication," according to FightingIllini.com. What non-speech communication might be I don't know...maybe semaphore.

Davis played both ways in high school, gaining over 1,000 all-purpose yards in 2005. His team won the Turkey Bowl.

 

Poll
Should the Saints...
Draft Vontae Davis
100 votes
Draft only Vontae Davis' Pro Bowl smile
11 votes
Draft another cornerback
19 votes
Draft a different position entirely
134 votes

264 votes | Poll has closed

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I want Malcom Jenkins

Forget Vontae Davis, let’s pray that Jenkins drops to 14th, or maybe Payton will just take Laurinaitis and play him on the outside with Vilma and Fujita.. You guys think I’m on crack, but James Laurinaitis is a tackling machine, and he would fit so nicely in New Orleans. Unfortunately, I doubt Jenkins will drop to 14th, but maybe we just trade down and get Sean Smith.. Let another team sign Lance Moore, this way we get a 2nd rounder..

by AKAY47 on Mar 11, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On Laurinaitis

I’ve been wrong before, of course, as has everyone; but I think Laurinaitis is a bust waiting to happen. In big games he disappeared just like Vernon Gholston.

Jenkins may be a great pick, or he may be a bust—either because he’s not fast enough to play corner against elite receivers, or because he hasn’t the experience at free safety. At this point it’s hard to tell, but I feel a lot more comfortable with him than with Laurinaitis.

RE-SIGN LANCE MOORE!!!!

by MtnExile on Mar 11, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All right, so who would you like the Saints to draft?

by AKAY47 on Mar 11, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ouch, the Vernon Gholston tag

Jenkins is money. Gregggg will teach him the Gregggg Wayyy.

88! WTF??!

by stujo4 on Mar 11, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, you’d rather the Saints draft Brian Cushing over James Laurinaitis or Malcom Jenkins? You really have something against the Buckeyes eh? Honestly, I’d rather have Lance Moore signed by a team like the Raiders, Chiefs or even the Lions and get the 2nd rounder, draft Jenkins in the first and possibly have Laurinaitis still available in the 2nd round..

Of course this is just a dream, but I’d love that.. Once again, I don’t understand why management wouldn’t just keep the money they spent on Devery for another Dman.. There’s got to be a reason, something to do with Lance Moore.. I’m 100% sure teams are interested in signing this guy..

by AKAY47 on Mar 11, 2009 2:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I never agreed with you…but at least I was listening until you said you would rather see Lance go for a second rounder

looking forward to 2010

by asaint on Mar 11, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I may have missed the thread...

it’s hard to keep up with you guys.

Is there a consensus that the defensive backfield needs all of the help?

Does the line pressure the quarterback enough? I eat an awful lot of spuds (one potato, two potato…) waiting for the line to pentrate. The defense was tied for 22nd in the league in sacks, but was 11th in interceptions and sixth in passes defended.

I’m not convinced that if we need to draft the Golden Child of the Defensive Backfield. If the line allows the quarterback time to pick his nose, then his receiver, there isn’t a DB that is going to look good.

I’m not defending the backfield, but sometimes the problem isn’t found in the obvious place, but in some area that has an indirect effect on process.

Sorry, that’s the engineer in me coming out.

Do you know what it means...

by MissingNO on Mar 11, 2009 3:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Problem is

I dont think we can afford any more d-linemen. Especially not another end. I do agree though more of a pass rush will help, but i think we’re gonna have to make do with what we have on the line. Hopefully Gregg Williams will get more out of them.

by fruly on Mar 11, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, we’re going to drop Malcom Jenkins to Free Safety.. Our D would look something like this..

Grant (McRae)/D. Pressley/S. Ellis/Smith
Laurinaitis (Morgan)-Vilma-Fujita (Shanle)
Porter (Randall Gay)-Harper-Jenkins-Greer (Mckenzie)

On paper, this is a very solid D.. We don’t need another DT, we have a diamond in the rough with DeMario Pressley.. If we are able to get another team to sign Lance Moore, a team that has a top 2nd round pick (lions), I can see us taking Laurinaitis, if he’s still available.. Once again, the D I proposed is a LONG shot, because..

1) The odds of Jenkins dropping to 14 is pretty slim..
2) The odds that a team with a top 5 pick in the 2nd round signing Lance Moore are alsoo pretty slim
3) If we do get a 2nd rounder, Laurinatis must be available for us to draft him..

Another possibility is to trade down, draft Laurinaitis or Cushing and get a 2nd rounder when trading down, this way we can draft a safety in the 2nd round, like Louis Delmas, Sean Smith, Williams Moore, Rashad Johnson..

We need also start looking into a backup QB.. Maybe in next year’s draft we’ll get a stud to back up Brees, and bloom into an elite QB..

by AKAY47 on Mar 11, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL
If we are able to get another team to sign Lance Moore

That’s the 3rd or 4th time today. We hear you already. It’s my impression that the Saints want a 2nd rounder for Lance and nobody thinks he’s worth that. I think he is, but I’d rather keep him. What have you got against Lance? Yards after catch YAC? Search the archives, that premise has been defeated.

88! WTF??!

by stujo4 on Mar 11, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have nothing against Lance Moore?? I like him a lot, I actually wish we didn’t re-sign Henderson.. Colston, Moore, Meachem and Arrington is a good WR corps.. I’m just saying, that it’s kind of weird that we re-signed Henderson, when we already have Meachem..

by AKAY47 on Mar 11, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Word on the street is that Meachem can’t spell his own name right. Let alone remember how to run Payton’s plays.

Devery appears to have improved his dropsy problem. He don’t like going over the middle, but I have to say I wouldn’t like it either. But he’s a burner and PayLoo think he’s worth it.

rotoworld.com:

Devery Henderson’s new four-year contract is worth $12 million and includes a $3.5 million signing bonus.
Robert Meachem is going to stay buried. Henderson is certain to make the 2009 roster and $1M of his 2010 base pay is guaranteed. The remaining salaries are all manageable. There’s a good chance he’ll finish the contract.

88! WTF??!

by stujo4 on Mar 11, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know the Packers would draft him.. They somewhat need secondary help since their defensive backs are aging..

by AKAY47 on Mar 11, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Also, if we draft Jenkins, we’ll slide him to Free Safety, and he can also help us at CB if we ever get injuries, which is also why we need to sign Darren Sharper.. I just don’t know why we re-signed Devery Henderson.. The money we spent on him could’ve easily gone to Sharper.. ugh

by AKAY47 on Mar 11, 2009 3:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, here's what I actually think

And when I write more of these profiles, everyone can accuse me of being biased. Can’t win.

I like Jenkins better than Davis. Personally, I think he’ll be fine, as cornerback or safety. I don’t think he’ll be “shut-down” quality, and since the Saints need a free safety I like the idea of moving him—so long as he’s okay with that. You don’t want to draft a malcontent.

I do not like Laurinaitis, and I think he’s too slow to adapt to the outside.

Cushing is probably the best outside linebacker in the draft, outside of Curry. No way we get Curry. Clay Matthews is an enigma at this point—could be great, could be a bust. My gut tells me he’ll be a Scott Fujita-type overachiever: good, never great.

I wish there were a true nose tackle available outside of Raji, who will be a top-five pick. I was really high on the Pressley pick last year—I thought getting both Pressley and Nicks that late was fantastic luck touched by genius. But Pressley is really a three-technique, like Ellis is now. We need a true nose tackle. Maybe they’ll move Ellis back, don’t know.

So, my ideal right now would be almost exactly what AKAY47 posted above, with the exception of Laurinaitis—which I don’t understand, anyway, since there’s no way we get both of them. If we do lose Lance Moore and pick up a 2nd-rounder, I favor drafting a safety: Delmas or Chung, probably, though the Saints seem to be high on William Moore right now. That would be something—Moore for Moore. I’d rather have Lance.

RE-SIGN LANCE MOORE!!!!

by MtnExile on Mar 11, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I said it’s almost impossible we gets both Jenkins and Laurinaitis, unless Laurinaitis slips to the 2nd round, and the only way we can acquire a 2nd rounder, is if someone sign Lance Moore, which is also probably not going to happen..

Like I said, it’s very a possible a team would want to trade up with us and add a 2nd rounder to the deal.. Like the lions, for example.. We swap our firsts and and they give us their 2nd.. And with their 2nd, we take Chung, Williams Moore, Sean Smith, etc..

Unfortunately, I doubt this will happen..

by AKAY47 on Mar 11, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sean Smith

Another good possibility.

I don’t think the Lions will trade with us—they’ve got two picks in the first, and the first pick in the second, which is almost like having three first-rounders.

But someone very well may. Some promising player WILL slip, and represent a bargain at #14. All it takes if for two teams to really want him, and the lower team has to deal. If the Saints make it known beforehand that they are open to all offers at that spot, somebody may very well take them up on it.

If we swap first-rounders with a team that picks very late, Sean Smith is an intriguing possibility. But only because others I want more will already be gone.

RE-SIGN LANCE MOORE!!!!

by MtnExile on Mar 11, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sean Smith, Sean Schmidt

He’s a mormon. Big love. Forget it.

88! WTF??!

by stujo4 on Mar 11, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You're thinking of Joseph Smith

Sean Smith is from Pasadena. Maybe there’s Mormons there, but still…odds are he’s like Steve Smith, who also went to Utah, and who also isn’t Mormon, just angry.

RE-SIGN LANCE MOORE!!!!

by MtnExile on Mar 11, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean THIS Sean Smith?

The “I want to be like Deion” Sean Smith? The “I don’t like a lot of contact” Sean Smith? I’d rather see the Bears take him.

NFLDraftScout.com:

Does not play with the physicality scouts would like given his size. … Is slow to adjust when backpedaling if a receiver cuts his route short or goes to the skinny post. … Catch-and-drag tackler whose height is a disadvantage when trying to bring down ballcarriers with a low center of gravity. … Inconsistent using his hands at the line of scrimmage. … Gets stuck on blocks. … Takes poor angles to make tackles in space or when attacking a screen. … Just a little more than two years of experience on defense. … Cocky and talks trash.

I guarantee you: This kid is NOT Greggggg Willllliams material. A case of Dixie beer or whatever you rebels like to drink on Saturday night. The Saints will not draft him. BOOM, book it.
“Beware false prophets, and hand me that little guitar so I can play my wives a tune.”- Joseph Smith

88! WTF??!

by stujo4 on Mar 11, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw, no...
A case of Dixie beer or whatever you rebels like to drink on Saturday night.

Now M-E’s gonna paste a picture of some god-awful gutterwine again that noone’s ever heard of.

The Detroit Lions are on the clock!

by HansDat on Mar 11, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we should draft Darius Butler...

Just read in my Lindy’s Pro Football Draft magazine that Gene Atkins is his uncle and Willis McGahee is his cousin.

The Detroit Lions are on the clock!

by HansDat on Mar 12, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure that's something to brag about

While I was searching for more McGahee’s babys (he only has 3. I confused him with Travis Henry who has 9), I found this on Gene Atkins:

Gene Atkins – S
Arrested for firebombing a former business associate but was later acquitted. Most recently he barricaded himself in his house after his wife called police claiming he had shoved her against a wall, choked her, bit her and then beat her with a remote control. Then, when told by police that he was under arrest, Atkins replied, “No I’m not” and punched the officer in the throat, then pushed him outside the home. Surprisingly the police didn’t agree, re-entered the home, found Atkins holding four knives, and summarily dropped him with a ‘hot shot’ from a Taser gun.

http://www.thephatphree.com/features.asp?StoryID=850&SectionID=2&LayoutType=1

88! WTF??!

by stujo4 on Mar 12, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oops

maybe Gene has early onset alzehehimers from concussions and brain damage…

The Detroit Lions are on the clock!

by HansDat on Mar 13, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I LOVE IT!! great story for the grandkids

Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D

by skinnykinney on Mar 17, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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