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Leonard "Dream" Weaver...Come On Down! Pretty Please?


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The next player scheduled to make a stop in New Orleans on his free agency tour '09 is Seattle Seahawks fullback Leonard Weaver. Undoubtedly, this look at Weaver is the teams attempt to fix last years late-game, short-yardage suffering. However, Pro Football Central is reporting that Weaver's visit has been canceled because contract terms could not be reached. I don't really know what to believe but I do know this: upon further research, I really think the Saints should take a serious look at Leonard Weaver. If his visit really was cancelled, they should re-schedule ASAP.

Those Saints fans who wanted to see the team pick up Shaun Alexander last year might just have to settle for his equally fast but more anonymous former teammate, Leonard Weaver. An underrated player, Weaver doesn't fit the mold of your average fullback. The Seattle Times puts it well...

a former tight end in college who tends to think like a halfback.

Since filling in for legendary Seahawks fullback Mack Strong (greatest football name ever!), Weaver has actually played a decent sized roll in the Seahwaks offense the last two years; moreso than other fullbacks in the league. John Morgan of Field Gulls gives us some insight.

 

In 2008, Leonard Weaver was a nationally anonymous but integral part of Seattle's offense. As a rusher he was worth 40 DYAR, had 13 first downs and a touchdown. As a receiver, he was worth 87 DYAR, nearly as much as Deion Branch, 97 DYAR, and D.J. Hackett, 99 DYAR. He caught 75% of his targets and earned 15 first downs. He was a vital outlet receiver and by season's end, a punishing pass blocker. In a bit of an apples and oranges comparison, Weaver's combined 127 DYAR was second only to Bobby Engram. It wasn't a systems thing, it was a one-handed catch, pretty juke, DB baptismal into the dirt thing. He earned it.

On the down side Morgan notes that Weavers run blocking still leaves a bit to be desired. 

So why aren't the Seahawks re-signing this guy? Pro Football Weekly interviewed Weaver's agent...

"As far as him staying in Seattle, I'm sure Leonard would be very happy," Lewis told PFW. "But just being a realist, I don't see it." The reality, according to Lewis, is that Weaver shapes up as a potentially hot commodity on the open market. "He's more of a hybrid running back who can knock over anybody," Lewis said. "When you look at the successful teams right now, you see two-back systems usually with one big running back. Leonard fits that mold, and there should be lots of interest in him."    

Finally, check out these quick videos of Weaver laying down the law. Apparently, the guy likes to give a good stiffarm.

 

Stats at a Glance

 

Leonard Weaver #43
Position: Fullback Height:  6' 0"
College: Carson-Newman
Weight:  242
Experience:  4 seasons
Birthday: 9/23/82
High School: Satellite HS; Satellite Beach, FL

 Age:  26

Season Team Rushing Receiving Fumbles
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost
2008 Seattle Seahawks 14 7 30 130 4.3 15 0 20 222 11.1 62T 2 1 1
2007 Seattle Seahawks 16 4 33 146 4.4 37 1 39 313 8.0 46 0 -- --
2006 Seattle Seahawks 0 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
2005 Seattle Seahawks 16 0 17 80 4.7 24 0 1 12 12.0 12 0 -- --
TOTAL 80 356 4.4 37 1 60 547 9.1 62 2 1 1

 

Do the Saints need him?

Need is such a strong word. The Saints 2008's short-yardage shortcomings won't soon be forgotten but with other, more important needs to be addressed through free agency, the answer might actually lay within and they probably shouldn't spend too much money on a running back. But Weaver looks like a young, very fast, very versatile back with run and catch ability and a nasty penchant for putting his hand in defenders eyes. Weaver is coming off a break out year and his agent seems intent on getting him paid. Chances are good he won't be so unknown after the 2009 season. I am really liking this guy. Really. Unfortunately, I'm worried that situation just isn't right. 

 

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You betcha!
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Now Gary Wright is going to be running through my head all day.

If Payton is really serious about wanting a power running back, he needs to take a serious run at this guy.

And Dexter Manley isn’t too bad a name, either.

And what the hell is a “DYAR”?

Oh when the Saints...Start kicking ass...You don't want to be in that number...

by MtnExile on Mar 3, 2009 6:18 AM CST reply actions  

I like it

Just so long as we keep Karney too. Them two as a jumbo package would be damn sure hard to stop on 4th and goal from the 3…

by MarcusR on Mar 3, 2009 6:49 AM CST reply actions  

Saints Fan in Seattle

Like so many in free agency, LWeaver is not all he is cracked up to be. LW is a tweener – he is big but doesn’t block well. Has some straight ahead speed for his size, but lacking in footwork. On short yardage, Seahawks chose to get TJ Duckett last season instead of rely on LWeaver (already on roster). On blocking, forget it. On tailback, tantalizing but no TJ Duckett.

All in all, a teaser that is not effective enuff to improve the Saints roster.

by Dempsey63 on Mar 3, 2009 8:32 AM CST reply actions  

why is the St Louis Dispatch meddling?

rotoworld.com:

Free agent FB Leonard Weaver canceled his visit to New Orleans on Monday.
They have Mike Karney and weren’t a great fit anyway. “League observers” tell the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that they think Weaver will stay in Seattle.
Mar. 2 – 11:44 p.m. ET
Source: St. Louis Post-Dispatch

I'm down with G-Dub.

by stujo4 on Mar 3, 2009 8:56 AM CST reply actions  

I have to say

Weaver’s stiff arm reminded me of Reggie Bush’s attempts at this, with mixed results. Reggies has put a couple of defenders down, but by the sideline as I recall. Deuce would use it on occasion too.

I'm down with G-Dub.

by stujo4 on Mar 3, 2009 8:59 AM CST reply actions  

Leonard

you had me at stiff arm

by SaintBevo on Mar 3, 2009 9:41 AM CST reply actions  

Leonard...

Dawkins, Shephard, Springs, LT, Bartel, whoever the hell!!! The reality is we (like years past) are pussyfooting around while all the TOP RATED FA’s are being picked up by teams with a higher since of urgency. While we the fans sit here on line guessing, hoping, praying that our team will finally wake up put the pieces together and just win.

by BigTMill on Mar 3, 2009 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

So...what should we have done?

Who are all these great FAs in areas of need that we’ve avoided? And I’m sure we could have signed them all, and stay under the cap? And I suppose you were fine with releasing Deuce so we could go after FAs, right?

The reality is, the team generally does the best they can with limited cap space (this year) and limited revenue (every year). They do go after stars on occasion (Brees, Vilma, Shockey), but have to be prudent about doing so.

by SaintBevo on Mar 3, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

good words, BEVO

I was about to say something along those lines…

Given our limited cap room, I didn’t figure we’d do much beyond get our own guys back. We tried for Bartell, but he stayed a Ram. They have to careful and determined. But I do agree that it ’s tough to see these guys come and go without being signed. Patience, my friends!

The Detroit Lions are on the clock!

by Hans Petersen on Mar 3, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Well now

It’s obvious where the area of need is, and I’m only ok with releasing Deuce if it gets results. If not then what was the point? There are a lot of cats that get paid the big bucks to be creative enough with cap space, and yes I’m full aware that Bush, Breese, Grant, Smith, Ellis, and Vilma don’t leave us much cap room, but we are not and have not in the past been as aggressive as I would like to see us during FA time. And just ‘casue we are in a secondary market doesn’t mean we need to have that oh well we’ll do the best we can and see what happens attitude. I’ve been patient but hey it gets harder and harder to make my one game a year pilgrimage from Cali to NO.

by BigTMill on Mar 3, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

stiff arm

both those videos should have been 15-yard facemask penalty’s anyway. the guys a cheater.

by knucklesmalone on Mar 3, 2009 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

not really

its only a penalty if you get caught lay off the guy and give him a contract we could use the depth

by sernycrusher on Mar 3, 2009 4:59 PM CST reply actions  

Can a runner be flagged for a facemask penalty?

Ask (former NFL referee) Jerry Markbreit in the Chicago Tribune:

Only a runner may ward off an opponent with his hands or arms, but no other offensive player may use them to obstruct an opponent. The runner may push an opponent in the face mask while warding him off, as long as he does not grasp the mask. This would result in a personal foul and a 15-yard penalty against the runner.

This was 2005, but I don’t think this part of the rule changed.

I'm down with G-Dub.

by stujo4 on Mar 3, 2009 5:53 PM CST reply actions  

face mask

i thought they changed that when they got rid of the 5yrd variety face mask? I don’t know, don’t really care, i was just giving the guy a hard time about his 2 best highlights were penalty’s

by knucklesmalone on Mar 3, 2009 8:08 PM CST reply actions  

I had the same thought when I saw it

Man, he really puts it in his face. Isn’t that illegal?

Guess not.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d809f6279&template=with-video&confirm=true

" Incidental facemasks: The foul for incidental grasp and release of the facemask has been eliminated. Twisting, turning or pulling the facemask will remain a 15-yard personal foul.

Grasping the facemask by all players, including offensive players, will continue to be strictly enforced. Specific attention is to be given to the runner who twists, turns, or pulls the facemask of the defender who is trying to make the tackle.

I'm down with G-Dub.

by stujo4 on Mar 3, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

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