The definition of insanity
by MtnExile on Mar 4, 2009 1:02 PM CST
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A truism: insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results (kinda like cheering for the Saints, actually...but I digress).
Sporting News has a two-round mock draft (you can see it only if you're a subscriber). In the first round, with Malcolm Jenkins, Vontae Davis, and Brian Cushing--among others--still on the board, they have this to say about the Saints:
Saints Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
They need help on defense, but can't pass up a chance to pair Crabtree with Marques Colston and give QB Drew Brees two big, elite receivers.
Someone obviously hasn't been paying attention. Two years ago, the Saints went this very route: investing a first-round choice on an injured wide receiver, when they desperately needed defensive help. It hasn't worked out very well for them: 12 receptions in two years. Back-to-back non-playoff seasons.
From the wording of the above entry, I assume they're not implying that the Saints need Crabtree; nor that we ought to take him. Instead, they're predicting the Saints will take Crabtree...that Payton and Loomis "can't pass up a chance." Do they know something we don't? Like the location of the secure bunker in Greenland that Payton and Loomis would have to retreat to if they ever stooped to such insanity?
Why does Sporting News think the Saints hired Gregg Williams? And do they think that Williams will be able to do it all by himself without some serious upgrades in personnel? Or do they think we think that?
Or are they Saints fans?
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2 big elite receivers gets us what?
’#1 offense? Got it already. Brees doesn’t have to worry about guys not getting open anymore? I think that is currently addressed to his satisfaction.
This is stupid. Crabtree ain’t no big thing anyway. We got Meachem.
I'm down with G-Dub.
by stujo4 on Mar 4, 2009 2:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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Oh, man….heheheheh……..my stomach hurts……heheheh
whew….hehe…that’s funny shit….
ignoramuses…
Thanks Deuce!
by Hollywoo! on Mar 4, 2009 2:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Crabtree is a stud
and will probably kick lots of ass in the NFL, but for the Saints it does not make any sense. They need defense, defense, defense be it LBs or DBs. If Crabtree falls to them however, I would not mind seeing them trade down a pick or two. He has high value and won’t make it much farther than 15 or 16 even if he somehow fell out of the Top 10 (does anyone think Al Davis passes on him if he’s there?).
by NOLACuse on Mar 4, 2009 3:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This reminds me
Of the days when many were advocating for the Falcons to select Calvin Johnson—which would have required them to trade up several spots—even though they had no defense and no offensive line to speak of. I think sportswriters just pop one every time they think of a stud receiver tandem.
by Dave the Falconer on Mar 4, 2009 3:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I guarantee you that each of these sport web sites and magazines have 300 staff writers do 50,000 mock drafts each offseason
And every once in a while the editor says, “You know what, mock draft nerds? Do me a mock draft that we can publish on-line that has teams doing different things. We have already done too many mocks with Vontae, Malcolm, or Cushing going to the Saints. Give me something else for once and light a fire under those sports bloggers and cuckoo fans so they have something to talk about… and maybe they’ll link to our mock draft site and we’ll get a few more hits this week.”
The Detroit Lions are on the clock!
by HansDat on Mar 4, 2009 4:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You're very likely correct
But what do you call people who deliberately publish controversial and/or absurd assertions, just to up their traffic so they can sell more ads? Do you call them journalists? That’s the name they give themselves, so they should be called on it every time they do something like this.
Oh when the Saints...Start kicking ass...You don't want to be in that number...
by MtnExile on Mar 4, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, things like this should be "qualified" in the introduction to each piece
I believe we have found ourselves at the crappy intersection of journalism and making money.
The Detroit Lions are on the clock!
by HansDat on Mar 4, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the intersection of
crappy journalism and making money.
Oh when the Saints...Start kicking ass...You don't want to be in that number...
by MtnExile on Mar 4, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ok, but I think the intersection itself is pretty crappy, too
The Detroit Lions are on the clock!
by HansDat on Mar 4, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm officially skeptical of Crabtree
Being a Texas fan, I saw him play plenty (at least one play too many for my liking) and he is a fantastic college WR. I am not convinced that he’ll be all that in the NFL. It is very hard to tease out how much of his success was due to his studliness and how much was due to the crazy offesne that they run, where 5 guys go out on routes on every play.
by SaintBevo on Mar 7, 2009 2:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not so sure there
The scheme Mike Leach runs at Tech (Air Raid) isn’t what you might call easy for a receiver to learn. In fact, it’s about as complex a passing scheme as you’ll see at collegiate level. One of the keys to the Air Raid system is adjustments to what the defense is giving you, coverage-wise (in a very similar way to the pro game), way more so than with most pass schemes. With 5 wide a lot of the time, it also pays to have a very good idea of the overall concept of the play so that you don’t, essentially, end up banging into one of your own guys when you both see a soft spot and break off your route to hit it. With this in mind, I’d say that makes Crabtree more pro-ready than some 6’4 guy who just monsters the competition on posts, slants and jump-ball fades all year round. I don’t think he’ll be there when we pick, nor do I think we’ll need him with the guys we’ve got (don’t sleep on Arrington this year, btw), but I’ll happily mark him down as worthy of being the first WR chosen in the draft.
by MarcusR on Mar 10, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's hope he is there
I really think the Saints need to trade down—I’m not sold on Davis, and I don’t know how easily Jenkins could transition to safety—and so if Crabtree is still available at #14 I think that’d be great in terms of our bargaining power. Originally I thought the Patriots’ trade of Matt Cassel to the Chiefs was the best indicator at our ability to trade down (since someone like Sanchez could still be available when we’re on the clock, and we could call up Parcells or some other QB-hungry team to trade back to, and pick up another first day pick), but Crabtree’s unlikely availability at that spot also gives us the leverage to get a 2nd- or 3rd-rounder.
by jful on Mar 10, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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