Out with the Old (Mike Karney), In with the New (Heath Evans)
Pat Y's rumor is confirmed. Say hello to Heath Evans and goodbye to Mike Karney at FB. I'm more than a little shocked at this. I always thought Karney was much appreciated by Pay-Loo. I guess I was wrong. Well, there can be no doubt that Payton means to do a slight overhaul to the offensive backfield. I don't really understand why they would bring in a 30 year old back when they just released one in Deuce McAllister, although I know the knee injuries were a large part of that decision. I'm stunned. Goodbye Mike! We're sorry to see you go. Here's a link to the Times-Pic.
The Saints just confirmed that they have agreed to a deal with free agent fullback Heath Evans and will release fullback Mike Karney.
More from the Boston Globe:
"Heath is a versatile and fundamentally sound fullback who can help our offense in a variety of roles, whether it be as a lead blocker, as a runner or receiving option out of the backfield as well as on special teams,” Saints executive vice president/general manager Mickey Loomis said in a statement. “He has played in a few different offensive systems and has adapted quickly and been a contributor to all of them.”
“Heath is a tireless worker and someone we were very impressed with after spending time with him,” Saints head coach Sean Payton said in a statement. “He’s very excited about the various things we do from an offensive perspective and is a well-rounded and versatile player. In addition he has played quite a bit on various special teams units throughout his career and been a reliable and dependable player in many different situations.”
They say it's a two-year contract.
More from the Times-Pic:
"My first reaction is that the writing's been on the wall (since the Saints started looking at other fullbacks in free agency)," said Karney, who ironically also happens to be getting married tomorrow in California. "So I wasn't surprised or caught off guard. And I respect the decision that Sean (Payton) and Mickey (Loomis) made collectively. I have no hard feelings, and I'm happy that they didn't string it out."
Karney, 27, has plenty of friends and family around for support right now - including former Saints backfield mates Deuce McAllister and Aaron Stecker, both of whom are free agents themselves right now, and former Saints fullback Lorenzo Neal, who has played for seven different teams in his 16-year career.
When did Aaron Stecker get released? It refers to him and Deuce as former Saints. Did I miss that?
"I have great memories of being a New Orleans Saint," Karney said. "I had some great games. I felt I stood tall through the victories and the losses and I was part of taking an organization to the NFC Championship Game, which had never been done in the history of the organization, and I met a lot of great people, established a lot of great relationships. The fans have been outstanding. Their support for me has been out of this world. It's sad in that respect, but it's time to move on, it's time for a new life.
"Now it's a new ballgame, and we'll see who's interested."
Damn! To top it all off, the poor guy is getting married tomorrow! I hate that he got such an awful wedding gift from the Saints. We'll miss you Mike.
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What's he got that Karney ain't got?
He’s a 9-year vet, so it wasn’t a youth movement…
The Detroit Lions are on the clock!
by HansDat on Mar 5, 2009 5:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Karney is a Haslett guy if you get me. Sad day.
I'm down with G-Dub.
by stujo4 on Mar 5, 2009 6:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Karney and Deuce were close...
Thanks Deuce!
by Hollywoo! on Mar 5, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Deuce signals touchdown in the video below.
I'm down with G-Dub.
by stujo4 on Mar 5, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That should’ve been Deuce’s carry and TD, but he was happy for Karney. Couple of good guys for sure.
I'm down with G-Dub.
by stujo4 on Mar 5, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
walter football has him listed as #4 FA fullback
Heath Evans, Patriots. Age: 30.
A quality fullback who will likely re-sign with the Patriots.
The Detroit Lions are on the clock!
by HansDat on Mar 5, 2009 5:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say I told you so
Well, I didn’t, really…but I did wonder if Payton sees the tandem of Deuce-and-Mike as the same two-headed player. When Deuce left, there was no role left for Karney.
Which makes me wonder…what role is there for Evans? How have the two been used differently? What about Evans’ stats really jump out at you?
Maybe it’s just a cost-cutting move. Bye, Mike…it’s been real. Say ‘hey’ to Deuce for us.
Oh when the Saints...Start kicking ass...You don't want to be in that number...
by MtnExile on Mar 5, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
from the Boston Globe article that reported Evan's visit to the Saints
Evans, 30, has been a mainstay on the Patriots since November of 2005. He’s served in a variety of roles — including lead-blocking fullback, ball-carrier, pass-catcher, emergency tight end, and core special teams player.
Considered a strong locker room presence, Evans has been one of the team’s more durable players over the last three-plus seasons. He hasn’t missed a game since joining the team.
The Detroit Lions are on the clock!
by HansDat on Mar 5, 2009 5:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's cool and all, but Karney was all of that too. But younger.
I liked him, and like I posted when I went to Detroit last season, he was a terrific person. But if this new dude is more versatile, then great.
Thanks Deuce!
by Hollywoo! on Mar 5, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a little Karney for you
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80bfc6a9
I'm down with G-Dub.
by stujo4 on Mar 5, 2009 6:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was my dude! Makes no since
by BigTMill on Mar 5, 2009 6:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
no sense at all...
What are they thinking?
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
by TAYDIGGA on Mar 5, 2009 7:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
cutting the guy the day before his wedding
why??? I have a bad feelingabout this.
In truth, though,fullbacks are quickly becoming dinosaurs in the NFL. Evans may be older but he doesn’T have a lot of wear on the tires. He should do fine, if he stays, but I’m not convinced we are going to stay with him at the position. Free-agent fulbacks are a dime adozen. Time wil tell.
Being a Saints fan will take years off your life
by MobileSaint on Mar 5, 2009 7:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
During rehersal
for his wedding, is how i heard he received the news…kinda sucks..there’s no awards for timing …
by metryman on Mar 7, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Evans from a Pats fan perspective
We never really utilized Heath that well. True, he’s a versatile guy, but our pass happy offense of late meant 1 back most of the time. When we did go to a 2 back system, it was to put a running back and an option back in play (Kevin Faulk) in case Brady/Cassel had to check down. Evans will be useful if the Saints decide to run and need a blocking back.
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by MaPatsFan on Mar 5, 2009 7:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You think you're offense has been pass happy?
Watch some Saints highlight film, my friend. Payton loves to have Brees air it out most times. Maybe the acquisition of Evans shows that Payton wants to go for a more balanced attack in 2009. Thanks for the input MaPatsFan and I hope Mr. Brady comes back for you guys performing as well as he did before the injury last year. Only, when he plays the Saints this season, tell him to take a break and rest that leg.
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Mar 5, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
feel bad.. good.. bad.. no good.. dammit now i feel bad for feeling good too.
Karney .. i love the beast i did.
Deuce with Karney popping opening an hole… who could forget those days.
Cutting him the day before his wedding? Payton you just lose a brownie point… you dont have much of those left so you better win a freaking superbowl this year or you are going to find you don’t have many friends left.
Here is the part that makes me feel like a shit. It was a good call.
Karney could run block.
Not a great runner
Not a great catcher
Supposedly, this new guy can run, block, and catch. Means that its one more tool in the #1 offense.
I believe the salary issue is moot as they signed the new guy for the same as they would pay Karney.
All in all. Good move, done poorly.
MT
by MT_always on Mar 5, 2009 8:05 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Agreed MT
As likable as Karney is, he wasn’t a very good runner to be sure. Maybe Evans will be an upgrade. I hope so, for Payton’s sake. Karney will get picked up by another team, I’m sure. Maybe Jerry Jones and the Cowboys will come a callin’. I’m sure they remember those three touchdowns Karney shockingly scored on them in 2006. I still remember the stunned look on Parcells’ face that night. Ohhhhh, what a wonderful day to be a Saints fan that was!
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Mar 5, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Man what the hell?
I liked good ol’ “tree trunk” Mike Karney. The guy is such a good guy. You can tell with the way he gets so emotional after wins and losses in the locker room and on the field. The guy really seemed to love being a Saint. Shitty move man, cutting him like this. I sure hope Payton and company know what they are doing and there is a method to this madness cause we seem to be parting ways with some players who we held near and dear to our hearts as fans. I wish him all the best of luck and hope he knows how much us fans will miss him and Deuce!
by narco301 on Mar 5, 2009 9:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"Emergency tight end"?
Sold!
I think Billy had the year of his life last year. Considering his lack of catching abilities we shouldn’t expect the same from him in the future. Anybody else remembers how often he struggled on perfect throws? As for Shockey….Let’s just say he’s my Stujo’s Lito. I know. The guy was hurt most of the way but do you really believe that, after spending so much time with him, Drew’s trust toward Jeremy is on the rise? Quickly, name the third TE on the roster. No? So much for depth…
Therefore, I more than welcome a veteran who can do some and more, and still set as TE.
Sorry Mike.
By the way, how stupid is it for the Saints to keep (and pay!) Colston, DEV-ery, Arrington, Meachem but not Velcro Lance? Something tells me Drew maybe arguing with Pay-Loo on this one.
SB minus just a D above average.
by FrenchFreak on Mar 5, 2009 11:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Frenchie, when Shockey blows up this year, I’ll be calling you out. He HAS to. If he sucks this year, he’ll get booed every time he comes on the field and his name is announced. No excuses. If he doesn’t, it’ll be ugly.
I'm down with G-Dub.
by stujo4 on Mar 6, 2009 8:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're on buddy!
SB minus just a D above average.
by FrenchFreak on Mar 6, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Upgrade
This is a nice signing, I’ve watched Evans quite a bit and he packs a punch which will help us with shirt yardage conversions, and he wont be slow like Karney and will hopefully hit the holes a lot quicker. Also gonna have a draft pick to do what we want with, im not sure what we’re gonna do with it though. I’ve heard we may have been looking at RBs as well as secondary positions…but this signing changes a bit mWe just signed Greer but will we go for another cornerback? A stud linebacker? I’d be fine with either as long as our defense gets a considerable upgrade….
by diehardbermysaints on Mar 5, 2009 11:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
BAH
FILTH…OUTRAGE…UGHHHHHH. I saw it coming, but still kills. Man i just found a Karney saints jersey i was gonna get for next season too. I don’t approve at all. As far as fullbacks go, who gives a flip if they can run and catch the ball. We’ve got PLENTY of people who can catch the ball. If it really comes down to us needing pass and run plays out of our fullback, then we’re having major issues on offense. Fullback’s number 1 job is blocking, and there aren’t many left in the league who do it like Karney does. i still dont see the logic. We’re trying to prevent getting stuffed in short yardage, so we go from pure blocking beast fullback, to a hybrid guy.
Maybe i’m just a little nuts and care wayy too much about the fullback position. I know heath evans is a quality fullback too, i just doubt he’s the lead blocking monster karney is. Karney was my favorite Saint, and i hope he signs somewhere very far away, for our linebacker’s sake.
by fruly on Mar 6, 2009 1:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bermuda
Yeah im from Bermuda…born in Toronto but moved when I was 7…we get a lot of Patriot games on regular TV out here which is why ive seen Evans play, I would have rather signed Weaver but he should do. Im out at school in Halifax now and had sunday ticket all year. In terms of Evans, hes way faster then Karney, although Karney was a great Saints player and he can block really well, hes just too damn slow for short yardage situations. On every short yardage play I would get nervous knowing we always had trouble with it. Watch next season, Heath Evans packs a punch and is considerably faster then Karney, which will help is on short yardage for sure. The washington game last year was a heartbreaker, we had the ball with four minutes left and couldn’t convert a short yardage conversion, forcing us to kick the ball back…we all know how that ended up, a bomb over the safties by Cambell to Moss to win the game! Most frustrating team to wath wth our defense last year but sign Sensabaugh and I can smell Miami 2010!
by diehardbermysaints on Mar 6, 2009 10:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
haha thats cool
thats about 45 mins from me im in Southampton…Bermuda is sick!
by diehardbermysaints on Mar 6, 2009 10:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
sorry to interrupt your love-fest guys...
BUT…let us never forget…the primetime game vs the dallas cowboys. MK, the beast, #44 with not 1, not 2, but 3 TDs in one game!!! i always really liked him, but thats when i fell in love.
we’ve had some good ones come and go…neal, zellers, T. SMITH (him and #26 were special to watch), and now MK. its gotta be for the locker room presence. drew is a great leader, but the rest of the team is kinda quiet. so to have another veteran leader, to be vocal in the locker room could be valuable.
miss you MK!
by NYSaint on Mar 6, 2009 12:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That was a career
game for Karney, Saints had the “Cowgirls” totally fooled that nite, what a great game to be a Saint fan, rolling up the Big Tuna into a Giant Sushi roll…..didn’t Jamal Jones and Terrance Copper catch a TD pass also?….
by metryman on Mar 7, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yup, and that whole week after that game was sweet
We were 9-4, cruising to the playoffs and looking at the lowly ‘skins coming to town. I felt we’d for sure be 10-4 after that and threatening the Bears for home field advantage…but that’s why they play the game.
The Detroit Lions are on the clock!
by HansDat on Mar 7, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Surprised, but it makes sense
Allow me to interject a bit of logic.
Let’s assume that Payton now realizes that being able to run the ball when we have to is important (after it cost us a few games last year, leading to a renewed commitment to at the ebd of the year).
Let’s also assume that our inability to do so was someone’s fault. I know some of you are saying “it was Payton’s fault because he abandoned the run too often.” Point taken. However, when we needed a yard, and he called runs (Washington, Denver games to anme a few) no holes appeared. So the lack of execution lies with either the blockers or the runners. Payton is obviously commited to Bush and PT, so they’re off the hook. OL? I have been blaming them, especially Stinchcomb, but his resigning means Payton doesn’t think so.
Who’s left? Karney. His rep was that he was a great blocker, but I think he must bear some blame for the lack of holes. I honestly can’t remember too many crushing blocks. Pay-Loo obviously thought the same way. Sucks for Mike – seems like a good guy – but he’ll get his. Evans probably fills the role that Payton wants – open up holes, maybe run in short yardage situations.
by SaintBevo on Mar 7, 2009 2:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't even remember if Karney played those downs
Somebody with the tapes needs to take a look. I imagine he was in, but maybe not…Payton has so many offensive packages I’d hate to try to guess which one was in use on any particular play.
RE-SIGN LANCE MOORE!!!!
by MtnExile on Mar 7, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If i remember right
It was Karney who picked up the guy who was lined up way offsides on that third down in Denver.
by fruly on Mar 8, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b03169
that link not the other one, my bad
by fruly on Mar 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had forgotten how painful that game was
GAAAAAAAAA!
RE-SIGN LANCE MOORE!!!!
by MtnExile on Mar 9, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right on
Agree, short ydge. killed us, those two games are glaring evidence, a 1st down and those games could have,should have been over. Karney was out some games b/c of injuries, but he was not the same Karney from ‘06, he looked slower. Seems our line is used to pass blocking all game (back pedaling) so when its 3 and 1, we cant fool anybody, def.’s seemed to know where the plays going. I’d say some of those short ydge. situations we need have “go to” plays ready , run no huddle and catch def. before they can change personel, or force THEM to burn a TO. Karney was a straight ahead guy, Evans seems a little more limber, and a better one cut/run guy.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will know..Jim Mora Sr.
by metryman on Mar 7, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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