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The Waiting is the Hardest Part

Here we are now one day following the restricted free agent signing period and we still have not heard anything regarding Saints restricted free agents Lance Moore and Jahri Evans. Seriously, though, what is going on? I would have thought if no offers were made, reports would surface quickly that both players have just accepted their original tendered offers. Instead we know nothing. Well what the hell man!? Hook a brother up! You know we've got nothing to talk about this time of year! You leave us no choice but to ask questions and speculate. 

 

Could an offer possibly have been made for either of these players?

Though Evans is the best player on the Saints offensive line I'm not sure many teams would show interest given what it would cost to acquire him. Moore on the other hand has been regarded as one of the top restricted free agencts available. Why wouldn't you want Lance? It wouldn't surprise me if more than one team has made a play for Lance and the Saints are now figuring out what their best trade options are. With only one draft pick on day one, the Saints would certainly have to consider it.

 

What team(s) would make an offer?

There are a lot of teams that could use a guy like Lance. It doesn't necessarily have to be the Jets but it is certainly within the realm of possibility (Hat tip to Ranger565 for being the first to speculate). It is a fact that the Jets are in the market for a wide receiver and have already been shopping other restricted free agent receivers like Miles Austin of the Dallas Cowboys. If an offer was made to Lance Moore, the Saints would have one week to match that offer. We have now begun that one week period and we could very well be in the midst of some serious decision making by the Saints. As we speak they could be deciding whether or not Lance Moore is more valuable as himself or as bargaining chip. 

 

But if that was the case, why wouldn't we at least have heard about Jahri Evans?

If the media acknowledged that the Saints had re-signed Evans with no mention of  Lance Moore, surely that would create a firestorm of speculation about the status of Moore's contract that all teams involved would just rather do without. I'm thinking we will hear about both at the same time.

 

Could this delay be caused by something else?

Absolutely. Just because we haven't heard anything doesn't  mean that the front office is facing a decision to trade or keep either of these players. The could very well be hammering out long-term deals with Moore and Evans. The Saints have been pretty darn good about rewarding their best players and making them feel secure. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if we found out that they were each offered long-term contracts.

However, with the possibility of an uncapped 2010 season looming and limited cap space, it might make sense for the Saints to stick with the one-year deals and wait until next year to offer Moore and Evans longer contracts. Financially, this would be the most sound decision and this fact alone gives a little more credence to the trade possibility. 

 

The only thing we can probably say for sure is that the longer we don't hear anything, the more likely it is that something is going on. Whether it be a trade or a long-term signing is anybody's guess.

The waiting continues. Until then the real question remains; should the Saints trade Lance Moore if they can? 

 

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What is going to happen?
Lance Moore will be signed by another team.
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Lance Moore will sign his tendered contract.
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Lance Moore will sign a long-term contract with the Saints.
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let's review some Rotoworld.com opinion since Feb. 20:
the Saints are banking on other teams viewing Moore as a product of their system. They’re probably right,
Many teams are probably intrigued by Moore, but giving up a second-rounder to sign him is another story altogether. As much as the Titans value draft picks, Moore is probably safe in New Orleans. Moore would cost a second-round pick and contract to acquire. Moore might also command a deal like Nate Washington’s: $27 million over six seasons, with $9 million guaranteed.
Moore has received no interest on the restricted free agent market because of the prohibitive cost to acquire him.
The Saints may open long-term talks with Moore after he signs his tender.

boom

"The best hope for David to make the final roster is for the Saints to select players at other positions in the draft."- Jeff Duncan, T-Pic 4/8/09

by stujo4 on Apr 18, 2009 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

and check out my post in the fanshot section

Len Pasquarelli says all restricted FAs in 2009 have remained with their original teams, for the first time since 1993.

The question remains as to whether he signs the tendered contract or holds out for a long term deal. I guess it’s the same with Jahri, too.

The Detroit Lions are on the clock!

by Hans Petersen on Apr 18, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Great post, Dave

You covered all the angles in a clear and logical way.

Here’s what Len P. said:

The deadline for teams to sign restricted free agents to offer sheets was Friday at 11:59 p.m. That would have given a player’s current team a full seven days, the period established by free agency rules, to either match or pass on an offer sheet before next weekend’s draft.

The deadline, however, proved uneventful, as no 11th-hour offer sheets were executed around the league.

What is his source on this? Can this assertion be confirmed?

The Detroit Lions are on the clock!

by Hans Petersen on Apr 18, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree on the silence

Yes its almost too quiet about the Moore and Evens Issue. Scary part is I believe my best friend is telling the truth on what he heard around the office, at the paper. I am not going to sorce the name of the paper here due to issues of the paper he works for. I just respect that of him. Loomis, normaly puts out info very quickly after they have re-sighned so to me somthing is up and if the basis for the Jets is real, then I can understand them keeping quiet.

by Ranger565 on Apr 18, 2009 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

sign him

i hope their signing him. i can see someone like philly wanting to bring him in for Mcnabb who’s been begging for a WR with playmaking ability but idk if they have a 2nd rounder they want to give up. I could see the Giants trying to get him b/c they have lots of draft picks and probably couldn’t resign them all b/c of cap issues. Just throwing out possibilities besides the Jets. I hope we keep him at least this year untill we can figure out what we have with arrington and meachem. I think we all know that Henderson can’t be a reliable #2 since he drops so many balls. Arringon, if what i’ve been hearing is right, is just like Colston. I saw him play on TV for Michigan and he seemed pretty good. Meachem might prove to be awsome but I say get Moore for at least another year b/c we don’t know how these guys will do as an everyday starter.

Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D

by skinnykinney on Apr 18, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I loved what Moore did last year and the help

he gave us when we needed it

But, am I the only one who wants to see one more year of it before we give a long-term deal?

by AppleCub on Apr 18, 2009 6:33 PM CDT reply actions  

makes sense to me

It would be good to see how it all shakes out with (hopefully) our fully-healthy and well-stocked receiving corps (Colston, Moore, Henderson, Meach, Arring, Shockey, Miller) operates as a complete unit for a full season. We’ll better be able to assess who we need long-term at that point.

The Detroit Lions are on the clock!

by Hans Petersen on Apr 18, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hard to break the chain

I don’t think the Saints want Lance to go anywhere. Drew loves Lance, Payton loves Drew, and Payton is the head coach. That’s a hard chain to break. Mickey Loomis might look longingly at a #2 pick, but it won’t happen unless the offer to Lance is just too much to match.

by BASaintsFan on Apr 18, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions  

My thought

for Lance is maybe, just maybe, they want to wait and see how his rehab with this mysterious last minute injury goes before deciding whether to go with the tendered contract or offer him a more lucrative longer term deal. My hunch is that he will end up with the one year tendered deal then negotiate something long term during the season once he can show he is back to 100%. Just IMHO

by BayouRebel on Apr 18, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Greetings from Panther country!

…first of all, man, it really sucks being surrounded by kitty fans, good to find somewhere to be a who dat and talk about my team online at least! I only know one other Saints fan here in Greensboro, NC, he’s the drummer in the band I play with (found out after being in the band for quite some time too!)

On topic, the obvious answer is that the team isn’t going to offer Lance a long term contract right now, for 3 reasons:

1) Last season may have been a fluke, not to mention that several of our other potentially great receivers were not playing at 100%.

2) He’s recovering from an off-season injury, and there is no telling how that will turn out. Giving him big/long-term $$$$ is too much of a crap shoot from Loomis’ position, and I don’t blame him one bit – I love Lance as a Saint, and hope he is one for his whole career, but let’s be sure it’s the RIGHT move for the team, first.

3) Next year, uncapped. Let’s not spend our cap money on someone that is apparantly not really likely to be going anywhere this season.

…of course, I could be wrong, but I doubt it. ;-)

…man, it’s great to be back in the company of some yats!

by GSO Saints Fan on Apr 19, 2009 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Another musician, another North Carolinian.... For God's sake, do NOT tell me you love Lito Sheppard or Da Bears.

Just kidding. (not really but kind of) Welcome to CSC, GSOsf, we’re glad you found us!

"The best hope for David to make the final roster is for the Saints to select players at other positions in the draft."- Jeff Duncan, T-Pic 4/8/09

by stujo4 on Apr 19, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

welcome

to saints fan’s heaven for the offseason :D

Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D

by skinnykinney on Apr 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

…where in the Old North State are you at stujo?

I’m ex-Lousy-ana-ian myself, grew up in Slidell (came by my Saints addiction the honest way!). Even had a house gig on Bourbon St. for a while, 544 Club for almost 2 years.

…you’re safe on the Lito Sheppard and Bears, one of my buddies (up in DC) is a fellow bassist and is a hardcore Bears fan, I’m hoping to repay him for the crap he’s given me ever since the NFC Championship game in ’06…that rat bastid!

by GSO Saints Fan on Apr 19, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh please, sir. I am a Yankee through and through.

I’m from Kansas. The formidable MtnExile (M-E) you’ll see elsewhere here is a native of New Orleans born with a triple digit IQ now residing in Asheyville and proud subscriber to Charter “We don’t need no NFL Network” Cable. He’ll be telling you how formidable he is very soon.

I’ll let Satchmo26 defend his own musical skills and taste.

Glad to have you with us!

"The best hope for David to make the final roster is for the Saints to select players at other positions in the draft."- Jeff Duncan, T-Pic 4/8/09

by stujo4 on Apr 19, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm formidble

I mean formadible. Formidible. DAMN!

Well, I’m home at least.

RE-SIGN LANCE MOORE!

by MtnExile on Apr 20, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh....

…reading comprehension is important! I thought YOU were both a Cacalaky resident and loser (musician)…

;-)

Guess those guys will eventually get ‘round to harassing me…I get up to Asheville once in a while, maybe I’ll try to catch up with M-E when I do next time.

Thanks for the welcome guys!

by GSO Saints Fan on Apr 20, 2009 10:09 AM CDT reply actions  

What do you play?

Bass, mayhap? Would you like mine? I can’t stand hearing it weep every time I look at it.

RE-SIGN LANCE MOORE!

by MtnExile on Apr 20, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a matter of fact...

…yes, I’m a bassist!

However, I’m certain your bass doesn’t weep, I know of no builders that include tear ducts and lacrimal glands on their instruments! ;-) If any did, mine certainly would….

FYI, I also am involved in building them, I’m the manager here: www.roscoeguitars.com

I play in two bands in the Triad: Ulterior Motive (classic rock/dance) and The American Idle (acoustic-y versions of 60’s-90’s rock tunes)

Anyhow…is it football season YET?!?!?!?! :-\

by GSO Saints Fan on Apr 21, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

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