2009 NFL Draft: Open Thread Day 2
by Saintsational on Apr 26, 2009 7:00 AM CDT
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Keep it here to talk about the second round of the NFL draft. The Saints currently have three picks today. We've got Malcolm Jenkins now so the question remains who will the Saints add with the few picks remaining,
This thread is open like a mother %*$(%*!!!
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rb on day two....
I’m pretty sure we could land someone who fits the “bruiser” mold in round four. I’ve had a man crush on Rashad Jennings ever since I watched his video on NFL.com. Seems to be a stand up kid and looks a lot like Duece on some of his highlight runs.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/rashad-jennings?id=71345
Also think that with the Cards drafting Wells, Edgerrin James could be a Darren Sharper type of stop gap for the RB position if Arizona cuts him. That may be a reach but it puts him closer to home, its an offense that would seem familiar to his Colts days and he shouldn’t cost that much considering his age.
by bstetiger on Apr 26, 2009 8:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agree
Jennings is a beast. I think he and Shonn Greene were the two best guys to move a pile. just what the Dr. ordered for 3rd & short.
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is where we do our best work.
One thing to remember: This team is only a handful of players/plays away from being a playoff team.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we trade up or use players to get our guy.
RB is definitely on the list, but I think we still need to find that SS or FS to replace Sharper (1 year deal).
Just because the monkey's off your back doesn't mean the circus left town - G. Carlin
by ty'76 on Apr 26, 2009 8:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There's gold in them thar later rounds!
I hope Pay-Loo are once again able to work some 2nd day draft magic. Me thinks they’ll pick up a RB first (Jennings would be nice). I expect to see them suddenly appear somewhere in the 3rd. Plus, we can’t forget all of the undrafted players they’ll go after and pick up as soon as “Mr. Irrelevant” is chosen. That’s where they got Pierre Thomas two years ago.
I should have said this yesterday, but thanks to M-E for running the open thread. I just noticed all the updates he was making to our horrible picks in the CSC mock draft. Great work!
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 8:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn
I wanted us to somehow get Shonn Greene
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 9:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As Michael Johnson Got Selected...
Al Davis: $&#*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by SaintsDynasty on Apr 26, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
deandre levy went to the lions at OUR pick in the 3rd round— and he was “projected” to be a 6th rounder. i thought he would’ve been a great saints; think there are better LBs available though. hopefully tyrone mckenzie, nic harris, or zach follett will still be around when we pick again. i don’t think we’re moving into the third though—no one really impressive is still on the board (except the RB jennings, but i don’t know if we really want him)
by jful on Apr 26, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we want Jennings
Fans certainly do. Who knows what Payton/Loomis have in mind, but trying to trade next years first to get Beanie tells me they want a big back.
Personally I think Jennings fits our need much better than Beanie could.
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Marcus Freeman falls to us
I think he’ll be the steal of the draft
WHO DAT
by pukenbowl on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Patriots trade #89...
to the Titans. If there was gonna be a Pay-Loo trade into the 3rd, I figured it would be there. Maybe they will just sit tight until the 4th after all. I doubt Jennings will still be available at #116.
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DAMN!
Rashad Johnson is gone…to Arizona. Well, that leaves one Rashad.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bill Cosby...
is really cracking me up on ESPN. Gotta love that guy.
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweatin' Bullets here...
Please God give us Rashad Jennings and Zack Follett in Round 4.
I’m gonna be crushed if those 2 are gone when it’s our turn to pick!!!
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 11:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweating along with you
I want Rashad jennings and DJ Moore
I don’t know anything about Follet though, is he a stud?
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jonathan Luigs
Could have used him, as well. Instead he gets to wear the clown suit. Poor guy.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn there goes the last good center
Go Jennings and Follet (he is a stud)
by T-Money on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
really?
Y’all think he’s better than freeman from OSU?
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They're very similar
But I love me them California Golden Bears
by T-Money on Apr 26, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
a few good options left
Well that gives us two good targets at LB, and one at RB. I like Moore as another Corner.
Only 5 picks to fade before we get to make our second pick.
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No More CB's!!!
We have enough depth now with Jenkins, Greer, Porter, Gay and Young
We need – NEED – an OLB. Let’s try to grab Follett.
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We always need more CBs
Until we stop the deep ball consistantly I won’t be happy with our secondary.
Also, I think Jenkins will wind up a Safety. So we’re not as deep as it looks.
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jenkins=CB (for now)
Payton himself said Jenkins will be a CB this year.
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jenkins on espn just now
Pink shirt, pink tie, Saints hat. Will have to cure the wardrobe but he sounds ready to come play.
Being a Saints fan will take years off your life
by MobileSaint on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Four more picks til we're up...
Phew! Jennings, Ringer, Follett, Freeman, still on board!
And Carolina just took an RB I’ve never heard of, from Tex A&M.
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Getting closer and closer and our guys are still available
This is nerve-wracking.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
after all this...
Watch Loomis draft two guys we’ve never heard of.
That would be funny.
Sad funny.
2 to go…
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 11:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Broncos
Watch them take another RB.
It would suck if they did, but you still have to laugh.
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 11:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nervous Still
Watch them take a LB. Hopefully it ain’t Follett or Freeman.
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, they go S
Does Detroit need a RB? Don’t think so. Jennings!
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bruton was a possibility
…but only a minor one. I’m not hurt.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I AM SO PUMPED!!!
JENNINGS JENNINGS JENNINGS!!!!!
And we didn’t even to trade away picks/players!!!!
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jennings! Jennings! Get him. Mickey!
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 12:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pick is in!!!!!
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SAINTS ARE ON THE CLOCK!!!
JENNINGS JENNINGS JENNINGS!!!
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Saints select CHip Vaughn???
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
safety
wow
Being a Saints fan will take years off your life
by MobileSaint on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A Safety!!!
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vaughn- Safety
Negatives: Better in run support than against the pass. Questionable instincts. A step slow in recognizing the action and has a hitch in his turn. May lack the agility to mirror routes. Better facing the quarterback. Loses track of the ball and has only marginal hand-eye coordination for the interception. Surrounded by a great deal of talent at Wake Forest.
NFLDraftScout.com, distributed by The Sports Xchange
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Positives: Looks the part. Rare size and upper-body development for the position. Aggressive defender that attacks in run support. Reliable open-field tackler. Heavy hitter that can separate the ballcarrier from the ball, resulting in forced fumbles and passes broken up. Appears to have at least adequate straight-line speed, good balance and a low backpedal. Good leaping ability to battle for the ball. Has developed a reputation for game-changing plays over his career. Came to Wake Forest as a wide receiver and is still an ascending player. NFLDraftScout.com, distributed by The Sports Xchange
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT?1
ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!
But maybe they know something we don’t…
At least they’re still drafting defense, though.
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
google and chip vaughn just went into hyperdrive
Being a Saints fan will take years off your life
by MobileSaint on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We still have another pick right after Dallas
Jennings…Jennings…
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bucs traded for Dallas's pick
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad Funny
More Sad than funny though…..
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like somone out of an '80's teen movie
I don’t get it. Well, we have another pick up next. Jennings!
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so hard to do this on the iphone
Chip vaughn’s not a bad pick. We have to go D in this draft. We still need a LB and a DT- I want RJF from LSU
by jful on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Bucs jumped ahead of us!
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We have another pick right now..
Cornelius Ingram?
by AKAY47 on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NO NO BUCS ON THE BOARD
I hope they don’t pick up who I think they might pick up…
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They went DE
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're up again!
Jennings…Jennings…
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now I'm really antsy
This is driving me nuts
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
104 till our next pick
We better like who we get now, b/c this is about the end of the road
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 12:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pick is in!!!
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF!?!?!?!
Payloo must owe Wake Forrest something.
by bstetiger on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Saints select Arnoux?
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Stanley Arnoux
Positives: Short, squat frame to handle taking on and discarding blocks. … Plays with good overall physicality. … Reliable tackler between the hashes. … Flashes some pop as a hitter and can close in close quarters. … Better in coverage than his measureables indicate. … Gets surprising depth on his drops and reads the quarterback’s eyes. … Team leader who made the Dean’s list.
N
egatives: Shorter than scouts would like and a bit round in the middle. … Lacks the instincts and quick first step preferred at the “Mike” ’backer position. … Takes a moment to recognize the action and is slow to flow toward the ball. … Lacks the straight-line speed to beat backs to the flanks and is a liability in coverage. … Lacks the lateral agility to consistently get around blockers in tight quarters, thus relying on his pop to disengage. … Needs an open lane to close when rushing the quarterback.
Copyright NFLDraftScout.com, distributed by The Sports Xchange.
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
Bit of a reach but I read a lot about him- really pretty good actually.
by jful on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As John Lennon sang
“…The dream is over”
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's a ILB!! WTF?
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But Hey
At least they’ve drafted Defense so far
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lb is lb
i’m glad they’ve gone all D so far
Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D
by skinnykinney on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus
Williams is probably behind these picks. He’ll find a way to utilize them.
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2 things
Vaughn = Jennings is a CB not a safety
Arnoux= Big RB is not a critical need in PayLoo’s eyes despite the smoke
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In Gregg we must trust
I don’t get it, but that’s not new. I guess PT really is the man in the backfield.
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll trust in Gregg
He managed to get them to draft all D. That’s a huge first step. No Meachums this year. Time will tell how these work out. I’d have done it differently, but I’ll be able to sleep tonight.
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
morgan and fujita maybe?
or fujita and simmoneau?
Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D
by skinnykinney on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or maybe...
they think enough of dunbarr to let him get some playing time alongside fujita?
Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D
by skinnykinney on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
arnoux
must have local roots
Being a Saints fan will take years off your life
by MobileSaint on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Florida
Outside linebacker Aaron Curry deserved the spotlight, but Arnoux, a four-year starter who never earned all-conference accolades, also received a Combine invitation. Considering that the 42-game starter leaves the Demon Deacons with 251 career stops, it’s easy to see why. A steady presence in the middle, Arnoux lacks rare athleticism, but his reliable tackling between the hashes make him a late-round possibility for clubs in need of an inside thumper. Copyright NFLDraftScout.com, distributed by The Sports Xchange.
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when do we need an inside thumper?
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
um....
Saints failed to hold Adrian Peterson to less than 20 yards last year?
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point. lol!
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when do we need an inside thumper?
Okay, this is getting weird. This happened to me one other time…I just typed out a post about Jim Grobe’s interview with Nola.com, and when I hit “Post” it re-posted a former post instead. Now, in case it doesn’t show up the way I see it, the title of this comment—which I did not type—reads "Since when do we need an inside thumper?—which is the title to another former post. Plus, the buttons underneath now read “Posting,” “Posting,” and “Cancel.”
Someone at SBNation really needs to work on this.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They may be getting unusually high traffic today all over SB Nation...
and this may be causing some computer server craziness. I noticed a lot of stuff like this happened over a month ago when they were adding new stuff across their community of blogs.
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All that waiting, just for this
I feel like I just opened my presents on Christmas morning, and they were a rubber knife and a pair of used shoes.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I got coal and a switch. But the slot car track was yesterday!
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
safety then linebacker. addressing our needs right now. i think it’s a good pick. get the best lb overall
Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D
by skinnykinney on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Switch channels to NFL Network!!!!
They’re about to interview Malcolm Jenkins after the commercial break!!!
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DJ Moore
Those idiot Bears just snagged him
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm happy
arnoux is solid. Saints watched a lot of tape on him and obviously liked what they saw. Jennings was a small school superstar but whatever. Be happy who dat nation!
by jful on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But then again
Pay-Loo could trade up in later rounds to get more players…
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet they pick up a power runner in free agency
I like Josh Vaughan from Richmond. 6 ft 230 and 36 reps of 225 is amazing, plus he has decent athleticism. Also he led his team to a national championship.
by T-Money on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I'm all better now
To take two Wake Forest players in a row, the Saints must have done some heavy scouting and feel pretty comfortable with their choices. Vaughn sounds like the heavy-hitting enforcer that Gregg Williams obviously covets…but I wonder what this means for Roman Harper.
As for Arnoux, he’s going to be a tandem with Vilma whenever Williams goes to a 3-4 look—which will probably be rare. Other than that, he’ll just be depth…but good depth. Besides, he’s got a good New Orleans name. Gotta love anyone whose name ends in X. Maybe hoping for a superstar in the 4th round was a bit unrealistic.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jenkins is impressive!
Great interview! I hope they post that on nfl.com. This kid is ready to ball!
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Duncan, Gregg Williams, and I love Malcolm Jenkins!
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that you, Sean Payton? :-)
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jenkins made Gruden get queasy
He said when looking at Jenkins with the Saints hat on, “Seeing a New Orleans Saint, I’m starting to feel queasy.”
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hhahahhahhahaha
I saw that! As much as I hateeee the Bucs, I don’t mind Gruden
by AKAY47 on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lawrence Sidbury
Atlanta is trying everything they can think of to get to Drew Brees.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vaughn/Arnoux
Just watched the Combine videos on both, and now they’re starting to look like real good pickups. Figured Pay-Loo felt that these 2 guys would be gone by Round 4. Plus, they’ve always fooled everyone and found great talent in later rounds.
Vaughn’s a pretty big guy and Arnoux seems to have great instincts. So I will calmly accept our pick decisions.
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
…at least we ARE finally addressing the secondary…
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vaughn & Arnoux Combine video links:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f35093
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f2dcee
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just thought of something regarding Arnoux
Jonathan Vilma is like the Drew Brees of the defense: these are your two absolutely indispensable guys. You know they’re going to play virtually every snap. So you don’t pick a quarterback in the fourth round, and you don’t pick a middle linebacker in the fourth round, because you know you’re not going to use either one of them.
Unless…do you suppose Gregg Williams plans to use some formations with Vilma as an outside backer, and Arnoux is there so he can handle the middle on those plays?
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no telling what he's thinking or what he discussed with the prospects
Lots of questions.
What I am sure about though, is that the first time Jenkins gets burned (as a rookie!), there will be a chorus of boos and calls to move him to safety. Morons.
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never mind
from Nola.com:
“Saints Coach Sean Payton said the team projects grnoux to play weakside linebacker.”
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just posted this in fanshots
Payton just laid out his plan for our new secondary:
http://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/posts/list?type=FanShot
Usama is moving to FS
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Usama is going to be a great free safety
Speed, quickness, good hands, great hitter, great vision. He’ll be learning under one of the best. Our defense is going to be top 10.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Sean we trust
Can Jason David beat out Leigh Torrance? seems only questionmark if everyone remais healthy and signs
Being a Saints fan will take years off your life
by MobileSaint on Apr 26, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That must be a motivational tactic, to put him last on the depth chart. Come on Jason, you can do it. Do it or else, it’s go time.
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At Least Payton is playing it Smart
Fellow fourth-round pick Stanley Arnoux will start out at weakside linebacker in New Orleans, with the versatility to move inside if necessary.
He said no one on the Saints’ staff had real close personal ties to Wake Forest, but he said it’s an impressive up-and-coming program that was special to watch on tape, especially on defense.
He said the Saints didn’t strongly consider trading up into Round 3, and they weren’t tempted to target a running back. He said these two guys were graded higher than any tailbacks on the draft board. At this stage of the draft, Payton said, you’re looking for the best available player — like a Carl Nicks last year.
“I’ve mentioned before, we’d like a big back. But I don’t want to try to manufacture a pick. That’s where you get yourself in trouble,” Payton said.
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Those presents I got?
Turns out the rubber knife is a prop knife used during the production of the first season of The Sopranos. And those used shoes are the ones worn by Deuce McAllister in the playoff game against Philly. I am now pumped!,/p> My apologies to Payton, Loomis, and Williams for me moment of doubt and weakness. Gimme another glass of that Kool-Aid!
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoops
In my excitement I forgot elementary HTML syntax…
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention elementary English grammar
Sheesh. I need to calm down. Naaaaah!
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Notice the Falcons are going all D so far
They just picked another CB. Why? Two words….Drew Brees.
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade to the Cowpats?
Huh. Maybe they feel they have enough for now?
by Just Some Guy on Apr 26, 2009 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I never realised how piggy Coach Payton’s nose is.
by Just Some Guy on Apr 26, 2009 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jennings still possible?
Do you think we might get back in round 5 or 6 to get him?
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 1:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder why he's falling so far
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this keeps up..
We might get Jennings or one of the two LBs were counting down for in the fourth with our Seventh rounder.
Hope Springs Eternal…
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bears take Freeman
Hope deminishing…
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next year's draft must be a very good one.
Teams must see a lot of talent coming out next year. I notice the Patriots and other teams are stockpiling next year picks and the Saints so far chose to not trade away any of their next year picks.
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As I understand, it's not because of the talent
It’s because next year is uncapped. You can sign as many players as you want to, so New England is going to sign a flood of players coming into camp.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the Saints' 5th round pick, the NY Giants select...
Rhett Bomar, quarterback from Sam Houstan St. QB huh? Eli’s future backup?
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What does everyone think...
Chip Vaughn at free safety
and
Stanley Arnoux as a weak side linebacker
I was expecting them as SS and Mike or possibly Sam, obviously its still early. Also, I have a raging boner for the new Usama.
by T-Money on Apr 26, 2009 1:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TMI
If there’s not already a web acronym for “too much information,” I’m starting one.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least I didn't tell you how I feel about Jenkins
He’s a dirty dirty boy
by T-Money on Apr 26, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
These guys are new to me. I’ll trust that the Saints plan was well thought out. They are the experts.
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sean payton?
Any one catch that interview with payton on espn? I caught the end of it and he was saying some thing about trying for an hour and a half to get back into the 1st round to try to get bennie wells. i just want to know what else i missed?
by Realsaint on Apr 26, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not much
I don’t recall him saying much else of interest.
by Just Some Guy on Apr 26, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just thought of something regarding Arnoux
Jonathan Vilma is like the Drew Brees of the defense: these are your two absolutely indispensable guys. You know they’re going to play virtually every snap. So you don’t pick a quarterback in the fourth round, and you don’t pick a middle linebacker in the fourth round, because you know you’re not going to use either one of them.
Unless…do you suppose Gregg Williams plans to use some formations with Vilma as an outside backer, and Arnoux is there so he can handle the middle on those plays?
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But..
You thought of this earlier, too!
by Just Some Guy on Apr 26, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when do we need an inside thumper?
Okay, this is getting weird. This happened to me one other time…I just typed out a post about Jim Grobe’s interview with Nola.com, and when I hit “Post” it re-posted a former post instead. Now, in case it doesn’t show up the way I see it, the title of this comment—which I did not type—reads "Since when do we need an inside thumper?—which is the title to another former post. Plus, the buttons underneath now read “Posting,” “Posting,” and “Cancel.”
Someone at SBNation really needs to work on this.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what.
What? WHAT?! What the hell?!
by Just Some Guy on Apr 26, 2009 2:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Punts over small buildings in a single kick?
by Just Some Guy on Apr 26, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hear
football catches on fire after this guy punts it
by fruly on Apr 26, 2009 2:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh god
It’s Russell Erxleben.
One of college football’s hidden gems, Morstead might not have gotten the media attention of other kicking specialists, but professional teams are certainly aware of his ability. Few specialists have the ability to be equally effective in multiple roles, but the SMU Mustang has proven that no task is too daunting.
Morstead was kicker and punter for SMU. Obviously, they’re thinking of consolidating positions and saving a slot for someone else…not a bad idea, necessarily, except that we tried it before with disastrous results.
At least we didn’t spend a first rounder this time.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 2:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
per NFL.com
Morstead has some place-kicking experience in his background as well, but he’ll compete for a roster spot solely as a punter.
I think we like Hartley (I do), but Pakulak has never had a particularly strong leg.
by jful on Apr 26, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
i understand why this is a disgruntling pick—but i think it’s pretty smart and in line with our strategy this season. field position is always critically ignored but one of the most important factors in being a successful football team—with the revolving door we had last season with our specialists, i like this move even if pakulak remains our punter. i just hope this pans out…
does anyone know what we gave up to trade in? i’m too lazy to search for it
by jful on Apr 26, 2009 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A partial answer
We gave up our seventh rounder. We must have given up something else as well, but CBS Sports is now showing our seventh rounder going to Philly.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF?
I step away for an hour and come back to find a new punter? OK, this could be a worthy pick considering last season’s special teams woes, but they trade away our 7th rounder to get him? and next year’s 5th? I look forward to hearing Payton’s explanation cause I just don’t get it.
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Payton's explanation:
“He has a strong leg, we think the best leg in the draft,” Saints Coach Sean Payton said. “We think we’ve got a very good punter and the objective is to improve ourselves at that position. We think it’s going to be a very good competition with Glenn (Pukalak)”
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is he talking about Mehlhaff?
Strong leg. Best leg in the draft. Isn’t that what they thought last year, burning a sixth-rounder and finally going with a free-agent?
Were they that dissatisfied with Pakulak? You don’t draft someone just to provide competition…you draft people you think can play. When a team has only one specialist of a kind, you draft the guy you think will replace the one you already have. But I hadn’t heard any kind of dissatisfaction with Pakulak.
I think Payton just can’t get along with punters. Having to punt at all offends him, apparently, and he resents their presence on the sidelines. If Morstead makes the team, I give him 8 games before he’s replaced.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
boom rec'd it
I think Payton wants a perfect punter. Monster punts, long hang time, can drop it inside the 10, and can cover the return if needed. Which is a lot to ask. But it explains the pick. Hell, maybe it’s Loomis who can’t stand punters, who knows?
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeeeee!!!
We got some Gruden love. We’re his sleeper team and “Pierre Thomas is the best kept secret in football”
by T-Money on Apr 26, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm Cringing to Expect...
the analysts giving a Saints a poor grade for this year’s draft. Wow. We’re out of the whole draft now. FOR A PUNTER.
Let’s cross our fingers and hope we get some good guys in Undrafted Free Agency, though.
by Jee on Apr 26, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From an outsider's perspective
Some interesting picks for you guys. Jenkins was a truly fantastic pick and I foresee quality play from Arnoux.
Can’t say I get the punter, either.
by Dave the Falconer on Apr 26, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well
hate to say it, but it looks like Dimitroff is the genius you guys thought he might be. The Falcons have had a hell of a draft. Jerry and Sidbury worry me.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've loved it so far
But you’ve addressed some defensive needs, as well, which is what this draft should be about.
by Dave the Falconer on Apr 26, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Rashad Jennings still available?
And isn’t the giving away our 7th round pick for a punter starting to look even more insane?
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
??
Seems puzzling to me too. He may wind up being this year’s Pierre Thomas for us, not drafted and picked up shortly thereafter. It would seem hard to believe though. Could it be because he went to a small school? I don’t know what it could be.
Yeah, I can’t make sense out of the punter pick. OK, we may have a need for him, but what made them think he wouldn’t be available later? I can’t wait to hear a more substantial explanation from Payton. So far, the punter Kool-aid is tasting sour to me. It may be like you said earlier:
I think Payton just can’t get along with punters. Having to punt at all offends him, apparently, and he resents their presence on the sidelines. If Morstead makes the team, I give him 8 games before he’s replaced.
I was loving our draft until this guy. Nevertheless, I still like the other three a lot.
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 26, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morstead
Pick Analysis: The Saints trade up to get a quality directional punter in the fifth round. Morstead has some place-kicking experience in his background as well, but he’ll compete for a roster spot solely as a punter.
Positives: Tall, with an adequate build and long legs. … Good extension on field goal attempts. … Uses his height to bring in high snaps (may have issues with lower snaps). … Has a quick two-step delivery as a punter (about 1.25 seconds) and kicks the ball at a low position, but still gets 4.7-4.8 seconds of hang-time on 40-yard punts. … Adept placing the ball inside the 10-yard line. … Has the size and speed to be an effective last line of defense covering punts. ... Improved his accuracy as a kicker in 2008, making 5-of-6 from 40-49 yards. Made 3-of-4 FGAs from 50-plus yards in 2007 and didn’t attempt a kick from that distance in ’08.
Negatives: Does not turn the ball over enough in his full-length punts. … Has not been a kickoff specialist, but may be tried there due to his leg strength. … Must prove himself as a holder if not used as a kicker. … Missed three kicks inside of 40 yards in 2008, four in both 2006 and 2007.
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Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 5:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Our pick goes for...
…a kicker!
The pick we sent to Philadelphia, they traded to Indianapolis, who took Pat McAfee, a kicker.
This is rich. We could have waited.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Correction
He’s a punter/kicker. He’s the same damn thing that we spent two draft choices to get in the fifth.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
crazy
Did Payton think he was set, didn’t need any other players to compete for roster spots? I am pretty confident that he has his eyes on a big back who will not be drafted. He’ll invite him to camp just like PT and Lance and make a star out of him. He is still stinging from Antonio Pittman. But…. he’s not stinging from Mehlhaff and that one punter too? Crazy.
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rashad Jennings WTF?
So, which is it that the Saints don’t like: That Jennings only has 1 year of big conference experience, is fast and loose with the ball (fumbleitus), can’t block and runs too upright? Or that at the interview dinner, he insisted on saying grace in a very long and demonstrative manner and talked about Christ all night? I’m going to guess it’s the former (and I agree, what kind of film are all you guys looking at? He’s running against junior college defenses) but I wonder if the latter didn’t make them question his toughness. Plus they already have that fullback to lead the team prayer.
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Was that a joke, about the dinner?
If not, I’d like to know the source so I can read it.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, a joke.
But he went to Liberty Christian Academy and Liberty Univ, fundamentalist Baptist schools founded by Jerry Falwell.
OK, so why is no one else drafting him?
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 5:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My understanding is
he went there because it was local.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA!
I have a catholic church and school 300 yards away from my home of 20 years. Never stepped foot on the property.
I think you can do better than that. Amen.
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, really
He went to Pittsburgh, and went home to help take care of his ailing father. He’s from the Lynchburg area, so that was literally the hometown college.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Follett's gone
OLB Follett finally got picked up by the Lions
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey I don't want to appear argumentative
But I don’t get all the buzz on Follett either:
Compares To: LARRY IZZO, New York Jets — Like Izzo, Follett plays like a UFC champion – packs a wallop, but boy can he get out of control. He will at least buy himself time in the NFL based on his stellar special teams play and also as a situational player to disrupt the backfield, but there are a lot of holes in his game, especially in pass coverage. He will likely be on the draft board much longer than most experts predict.Copyright NFLDraftScout.com, distributed by The Sports Xchange.
Sounds like a wild man with little discipline (or brains) resulting in a lot of damage, some to himself.
2009: Could not complete agility tests at the NFL Combine due to a pectoral muscle injury.
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
perspective
I took the swine flu vaccine in 1976. Nothing. However, we have 2 people sick with it here in Kansas (in isolation). It will kill you.
http://www.emergencyemail.org/newsemergency/anmviewer.asp?a=353&z=29
http://www.emergencyemail.org/newsemergency/anmviewer.asp?a=356&z=34
http://www.emergencyemail.org/newsemergency/anmviewer.asp?a=355&z=29
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 6:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There goes Jennings
To the jags. Oh well…
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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