Saints draft notes; Goodbye Brian Young
Just saw THIS at the Times-Pic. Too much here for a Fanshot:
Mike Triplett says calm the F down about the punter pick:
I just got a look at the comments and feedback on the Saints' decision to trade up into Round 5 and draft a punter. ... Wow. I guess I'm not surprised, but geez, this generated more interest than yesterday's first-round pick.
Calm down, folks. It's not like they passed up on Beanie Wells or Brian Cushing to get this guy. Of course, we were all a little stunned in the press room here, too, but I don't think they gave up too much to get him. And who knows? Maybe he'll pan out, and they can finally solve one of their nagging issues from the past three years.
Saints Coach Sean Payton said the punter position was listed under the team's "needs" on the grease board after the postseason evaluations. He credited veteran Glenn Pakulak for stepping in during midseason and performing well, but he said Pakulak would admit that he needs to work on his consistency.He said the team looked hard at some free agent options, but the two best (Oakland's Shane Lechler and Atlanta's Michael Koenen) re-signed with their current teams. After that, they spent more time than usual evaluating the top draft options at punter, and SMU's Thomas Morstead was clearly the one they liked best.
Brian Young suffered another set back and will soon be released:
It sounds like defensive tackle Brian Young won't be on the Saints' roster this year. Payton said he had another knee surgery three weeks ago, and he just can't seem to get healthy. It's too bad. Young is one of the great guys in this locker room, but his body isn't cooperating.
Pay-Loo team assessment strategy:
Payton said the team broke down those grease-board categories into "musts," "needs" and "wants." He said the secondary fell into the must category, and the Saints addressed that with free agents Jabari Greer and Darren Sharper and draft picks Malcolm Jenkins and Chip Vaughn.
He said punter was a need. And a big power running back was a want.
All you folks who are so up in arms about the punter pick seemed to want a power running back. But Payton said when the Saints evaluated the tailbacks available, they simply didn't rate any of them higher than current young power backs Mike Bell and Lynell Hamilton.
"We didn't add the big back, but I'm not so certain he isn't in the building," Payton said.
Pay-Loo plan to be very busy tonight:
The Saints plan to sign 10 undrafted free agents tonight. Payton estimated that they'll target two or three guys in the secondary, two or three offensive linemen, two defensive linemen, two receivers and a linebacker. He said a fourth quarterback is a possibility, but only if there's a player the team really likes. A second kicker or second long snapper is possible too.
No offensive player? No problem:
This was the first time in Saints history that the team has never drafted an offensive player. Payton gave the quote of the day when asked about it.
"I think some of you guys think it just kills me that we don't draft an offensive player," he said. "That's not the case. As a head coach, I want to win."
In this POST, Jeff Duncan gives a "F" grade for the drafting of punter Thomas Morstead. He doesn't understand it either:
• Thomas Morstead, fifth round: One word: Wow! I've seen a lot of crazy picks by the Saints over the years but this one ranks right up there. I guess I can understand taking the kid. He was the second-rated punter in the draft. But trading up for him seems a little much, especially one day after General Manager Mickey Loomis said the club's goal was to keep all of its 2010 picks protected for next year. Supposedly the Saints wanted to jump in fron to the Indianapolis Colts, who had Mostead targeted in the lower rounds. But still, we're not exactly talking about the second coming of Shane Lechler here. Morstead was only honorable mention in Conference USA, for goodness sakes. So either CUSA is the cradle of college punters or the Saints reached for Morstead. I'm going with the latter. Besides, I thought Glenn Pakulak did a solid job last season and should only improve with a full offseason under his belt so I'm not sure the need for more punting compeition justified the decision to trade up for Morstead. Grade: F.
Could this guy Morstead be the "Touchback Kid" that Payton has craved for so long? He's billed as a kicker too. Since he reportedly has such a powerful leg, could Payton envision him as the guy who can finally kick-off into the endzone with some consistency? Maybe that combined with the punting ability is why Payton seemingly defied all logic to grab him. I don't know. I'm also still trying to make sense of this pick.
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That didn’t sound very objective, Mr. Duncan. I don’t even know what that word means anymore.
But hey, “mostead” has crazy intangibles. Get back with me in a few years and tell me he’s not the second coming of Shane Lechler.
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
BIAS!!!!!
if someone were really an objective observer, he’d notice that one of the Saints’ biggest weaknesses was in the punting game—we ranked dead last in punts inside the 20 yard line. Mostead, on the other hand, is a solid directional kicker—in addition to having a really powerful leg. I can understand why the casual fan is upset about this selection, but it really shows Payton is a very smart coach and not an offensive hotshot like some believed. It might not pan out—see Taylor Melhaff—but punters are much more predictable and Payton wanted this guy, so I’m glad.
And I think anyone who gives it an “F” either (a) doesn’t understand football (like maybe he’s a basketball fan or something?) or (b) is not very objective. Or both.
by jful on Apr 27, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well there’s a third option. They could just be playing to the percieved prejudices of their audience.
by FriarBob on Apr 27, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's possible the kicker is a good pick
If this guy is as good as Keonan(sp?) is in Atlanta, punting and kicking off, I guess he’s worth it. I just don’t believe he is, since no one has heard of this guy coming out of college.
I’m not gonna sweat it anymore. We’ll see what happens in August.
Gotta trust the professionals…
by saintsdevotee on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
little research
He is the top rated punter in draft. Also noted that he has a big leg (6’4") and sometimes will out kick the coverage. BUT has a slow punt and a history of being blocked in college (I do not like that NFL will only be worse). Hopefully he can work on his mechanics and speed it up.
On a side note Graham Gano did not even get drafted (Nations top PK … award etc.)
Year GP FGM FGA LG XPM XPA
2005 6 0 0 0 0 0
2006 13 0 0 0 0 0
2007 13 0 0 0 0 0
2008 11 24 26 53 33 34
Totals 43 24 26 53 33 34
I believe this is WHY ^^^^^^^ not a very large body of work,
Anyway he also is extremely accurate with his punts
(anyone see bowl game against Wisconsin I believe three punts INSIDE of 5)
I am curious though about the choice of the punter as I remember we had problems with kicking not punting.
(obviously not including Grammatica pulled groin kicking off)
Ultimately unless this kid is a TB king etc. I would have gone for the more versatile of the two … Gano. Still possible he is a FA, but I believe Melh….? got a 2 year deal in offseason REGARDLESS Saints should pick up the phone and check the kid out. (What happens if morstead cannot change his kicking speed etc.)
by Norml912 on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me started on Gano
I would LOVE to have him on our side. My brother is a diehard nole, and I have to say that Gano will be a positive for whatever team picks him up. He is a special team bad ass.
And the stats I show never show a history of being blocked, they show no blocked punts
looking forward to 2010
by asaint on Apr 27, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I know. I was quoting a site and i went back today and that section of his weaknesses has been removed. So, I can only assume it was a mistake and with him being drafted maybe they got feedback saying wtf he was never blocked etc. and removed
by Norml912 on Apr 27, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
punter? BAH
Trade up for punter? BAH F!@
MT
by MT_always on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i read somewhere...
that he had a punt go as long as 72 yds… thats a monster leg.
"For us, there is no spring... only the smell of fresh wind before the storm."
-Conan of Cimeria
by tlsk1066 on Apr 27, 2009 1:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
72...
that’s crazy. from what i read, payton doesn’t seem to think that paulak or w/e our current punters name is(who can keep up w/ getting rid of all of them) punts the ball w/ great consistency. can’t get it inside the 10 or w/e. also, i think peyton will be looking at our new punter to specifically kick the long punts and maybe even kickoff and get some touchbacks for us. anyways, i’m ok with it if he truly does have a monster leg. our field goal problems were a part of grammatica being hurt and melhaff just sucked. grammatica should be better this year(if we keep him) and the guy that replaced them, his name also starts w/ a p, did excellent last year. he came on later in the season but he was solid. 13/14 maybe, i think that’s right.
Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D
by skinnykinney on Apr 27, 2009 2:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if grammatica kicks...
I will give up and go be a lions fan.
Or maybe Buffalo, they are moving here anyway, might as well get head start.
They drafted Melhaff cause he had a monster leg.. see how that turned out.
This guy.. he is known for having his punts blocked. Who cares how good his leg is if he doesnt KICK THE BALL
MT
by MT_always on Apr 27, 2009 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grammatica won't be back
The place kicker position already belongs to Garret Hartley. It’s his to lose. He came in as an undrafted rookie last season and went 13 for 13. I hope he has worked to become even better this offseason. If not, they may give Grammatica another shot, but I doubt we see Frodo in black & gold again. Payton will probably try to make Morstead the kick-off specialist. That’s the only reason I can see for bringing in a rookie punter to compete with Pakaluk. Whatever the case, Pay-Loo knows more about this guy and his ability than any of us or Jeff Duncan or Mike Triplett, so he’s a “wait and see” rookie. I hope he’s worth the two picks they gave up for him. After Melhaff last year, Payton’s track record on drafting specialists isn’t good. Maybe he’ll actually redeem himself with Morstead.
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 27, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rotoworld.com:
Garrett Hartley-K- Saints Apr. 27 – 11:36 am et
Saints coach Sean Payton expects K Garrett Hartley to “kick in this league for a long time.”
Hartley closed out the season making all 13 field goal attempts while also improving the team’s kickoff coverage. The former Sooner is one of our favorite kicker values in 2009 and could easily finish in the Top-5 in scoring.
The reference is fantasy scoring.
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 27, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish you'd stop calling him "Frodo"
It defames a perfectly innocent fictional character. Call him “Angela” or something like that. Or I’ll sic stujo on you.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 27, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angela?
Is that the old hag muppet from that movie The Dark Crystal? Blame Saintsational. He’s the one who first pointed out how much Grammaster M looks like the “hero of Middle Earth and destroyer of the One ring.” Or, was it Gollum who actually delivered the ring into the fire of Mt. Doom? I’ll have to call Gandalf and find out. :-)
Yes, I’m a geeky fan of that book and movie.
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 27, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fan of the book
BIG fan of the book. So I think Peter Jackson should be dropped into Mount Doom.
Bah!
by MtnExile on Apr 27, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just a fan of one of the books and only one of the movies?
Wow. Which ones?
Just kidding. I know what you mean. I didn’t discover the books until my old roommate loaned me his trilogy to read just prior to Fellowship coming out in the theaters. Books get a draft grade of A , while the movies max out at a B.
Malcolm Jenkins is gonna make Dave Waymer look like Lito Sheppard.
by HansDat on Apr 27, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops the computer messed up and didn't note my "plus" sign that should have followed each of those letter grades
and as an off-topic BTW, any other Middle-Earth geeks should enjoy these links:
Jack Black doing a bit from Fellowship on the MTV Movie Awards
and this one, which is gollum going off on Peter Jackson in a pre-taped acceptance speech, featuring an intro by Peter Jackson
Malcolm Jenkins is gonna make Dave Waymer look like Lito Sheppard.
by HansDat on Apr 27, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!
Never saw those. I don’t watch award shows and I stopped watching MTV twenty years ago. Those were some awesome clips, though!
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by satchmo26 on Apr 27, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lord of the Rings
should have been made by David Lean (Lawrence of Arabia, Bridge Over the River Kwai, Dr. Zhivago, Great Expectations, etc.)
Or at least by someone with respect for the material.
here drink some of this kool-aid don't worry it won't hurt you...
by MtnExile on Apr 27, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gramatica Is Garbage
Garret Hartley will do fine. He was 13/13 last year. Gramatica is GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Dirty1WB on Apr 27, 2009 8:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is official
From Rotoworld:
Saints released DT Brian Young.
Young just couldn’t stay healthy, and he recently failed a team physical. He received a three-year, $12-million extension last year, but he’s started just 11 games in the past two years. The Saints will clear a much-needed $3.2 million in cap space with the move.
by Grumps on Apr 28, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Loomis: "He will always be welcome in our building."
Doesn’t that seem unusual? I don’t know if even Deuce has that privilege. Oh, you mean come by the office, not to work out in the weight room or sit in the whirlpool? Ahh. Ok.
Restore the wetlands!
by stujo4 on Apr 28, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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