The Saints Suck. When Will it End?

Don’t be one of those fans that starts talking gloom and doom before the season even starts. I think that ending 8-8 after loosing Colston, Bush, McAllister, Shockey, McKenzie, and Moore for at least part of the seaason, shows just have deep we are. And we are even deep this year. We have fixing the kicking problem, fixing the short yardage problem with Heath Evans and Pierre Thomas, and the cover problem with Sharper, Prioleau, and Greer and we still have the draft. We are closer to being an elite team than we have ever been. I’m more excited about 2009 than I was about 2006. We have weapons in every position. So, let’s stop here with the loosing attitude. If the fans have a loosing attitude the team will also. Let’s get behind this team and get our heads up and enjoy having a great team in New Orleans. Who Dat!!!

I have to agree with the writer that the 2007 off-season sucked, but drafting Meachem was the worst move we made. I studied the players coming out that year and based on need there 5 players we should have targeted. Four of them were Corners, and they were all gone before we picked. The last player that filled a need and had a first round grade was available when we picked: Greg Olson. We needed a TE, Payton and Loomis had both said so in the weeks leading up to the draft. I can not fathom why they didn’t draft him. If we had picked him, we wouldn’t have traded for Shockey last year. We would have our 2nd and 5th round picks this year.

Does anyone else think Meachem is worth this?

Meachem+Shockey>Olson+2nd+5th

I thought this was a horrible move as soon as they announced the pick and it has only looked worse over time.

Teams can not miss on their first round picks and be successful. Look at the Lions if you need proof. Free agent signings can be hit or miss, you do lose cap space, but the opportunity cost of missing on a first round pick is huge.

But the New Orlean Saints organization has made more strides toward imroving this franchise over the past few years than they may have ever done.

What other Saints coach has been able to build such a solid offense in such a short period of time?

Signing Gregg Williams only solidified our beliefs that this team wants to be great.

Yeah we can look back on 07 and see that players didn’t pan out, but there’s no denying that this team is closer to great than they’ve ever been before.

I was screaming at the TV on draft day that year for the Saints to pick Greg Olson and then when they picked Robert Meachem I was screming even louder saying “WHY???” and “NOT ANOTHER UT RECEIVER!!!” I hated the pick then and I hate where it puts us now as a direct result of that one dreadful pick. Don’t get me wrong. I love Shockey and what he brings to the team in terms of passion and desire and potential which will hopefully come to the surface full force this season or else that whole trade will have been a disaster as well for having taken away too many of our draft picks this year…
I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN THIS TEAM AND ALWAYS WILL!!!
KEEP THE FAITH!!!
WHO-DAT BABY!?!?!?

If Meachem is a bust. He has shown some great promise. His stats are certainly phenomenal- yds per catch, % of catches for touchdowns, etc. For a guy who hardly played, he has performed whenever he could. Why Peyton doesn’t like him is a mystery but he has the physical attributes to be awesome and last offseason he buddied up with Patten and was a study in dedication to training. So, who knows.

Olsen, on the other hand, has played well but let’s not overstate it. He has only started 11 games in 2 seasons, only averages 3 passes per game- his stats are more like Billy Miller’s so far. Possibly Olsen will become a real force, but right now Shockey gets more receptions and is a bigger impact player even when he is injured part of a season. I don’t see Olsen taking over Tony Gonzalez’ crown of the best TE in the last decade.

I have high hopes for Meachem- I hope Peyton gives him a chance. He has the size, speed and talent that only a handful of NFL receivers have- Peyton should be able to work with that if he is a good coach.
Plus, I don’t understand the point above that said 4 draft picks above ours were corners and they were all gone before we picked. I guess the writer is saying we should have made a deal and picked higher up, but that is assuming the other teams would have made a deal. I don’t know who those 4 corners were, but I have a hard time believing that all 4 are now solid starters on good teams and that we could have had them. It’s all a gamble. I think Meachem will prove his worth.

I think you make a good a good point about the bandwagon effect in areas of the country outside of La. But, to add to it, there is also this – I have noticed in my area (Southern NJ) thatnthere are more people now willing to ADMIT they are Saints fans than before. There were always a few closet Saints fans around here, but now they actually show up at bars for games where the ticket is showing a Saints game and wear Black and Gold. But, I kind of empathize with their timidity, even though I wear my stuff proudly, because a few years ago I went to an Saints-Eagles game and almost got in a fight in line for a beer minding my own business but responding to some jerk where all I said was that Deuce already had 120 yards and it was only the third qtr. Up here, it is actually dangerous in certain situations to be a non- Eagles or a non Giants fan.

This year for 2009 is something to be proud of.

First of all, Think of what this offense is going to be.

1. Widerecievers. Colston and Arrington are Idential they are god given twins on the field. And when Arrington steps up the the plate. Add Moore( Pray to god he resigns) will scare the living daylights out of DBs in their postion. LOTS OF MAN TO MANa

You have a 4 wide reciever set,
1. Colston
2. Arrington
3. Moore
4. Mecheam, Henderson,

5. Have Reggie in the backfiled or split wide, And or add Thomas
6. With any of our Tighends ( remember our TE postions are not that bad)

Brees with his arm and HOLY you have something scary.

The NFL has NOT seen Arrington yet, so if he breaks out( and I am convenced he is the next Coleston.

That set alone is Man to Man and no way in hell can a Defense cover everyone of this power.

I expect a Very High scoreing Saints offense this year

As for Defense only time will tell. but remember my Post, the offense is only going to get better, As long as these guys stay Healthy, Look out Going to be lots of endzone dances this year.

What I think this year is going to see out of Meachum is he is going to get playtime, ( I hope) who knows, we may even trade him on draft day to someone who needs a reciever? Giants? Bangels? Jets? But with this core of recievers he will have more chances. Teams have to cover someone and if they know Moore, Arrington, Henderson( our deep man) and Colston are on the field. then Meachem is going to get the ball.

All you guys know that everyone of these recievers are deadly, even Meachem has shown promise, He just has to work hard in Practice

I felt pretty good about what we had done in FA prior to the draft of 2007 to address our needs. Especially the JD acquisition just before the draft itself. Only time (2 seasons so far) is able to tell us how it actually works out.

During that 2007 draft, I also saw all the top-tier DBs go off the board early in Rd. 1, and one DB that some experts had us taking (Chris Houston from Arkansas) was still available…but apparently our guys didn’t have him rated high enough to take at that spot. He went to Atlanta, and I have not heard anything about him good or bad in regard to his ability or performance. So who knows if that was the pick we should have made? I don’t even know what DLs or LBs were still available at that spot.

Anyway, I’ll be cheering and hollering and hoping for the best BLESS YOU BOYS from now until they put me 6 feet under or illegally scatter my ashes from the rafters of the ‘Dome. I’ll also continue analyzing and discussing and sharing notes on this here CSC forever.

Cautious optimism is the key. I mean, the 2006 Chargers were 14-2 heading into the playoffs as the BIG FAVORITE and they flamed out in the Divisional Round after a bye. You’re only as good as the last game you played. That’s what makes it such a roller coaster – anything is possible. In 2006, we stomped the Cowboys on Sunday Night Football to stand at 9-4, and I thought we’d for sure finish 12-4 and maybe even catch the Bears for home field, but we didn’t. We stunk up the joint against the Skins, smacked down the Gaints, and then rested most of our starters against the Panthers to finish 10-6. You can’t count on anything in this league, but you (or at least I) gotta have faith, hope, and a tall, cool, bottle of CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM next to your remote control and laptop while you watch the Saints on DirectTV sunday ticket. Oh yeah, i’ll also be wearing my CSC shirt!!

i’m running with our team till the light turns red and the way i see it, that won’t be for awhile with the possibilities that we have. i still say we need to draft jenkins even if we do have greer and porter as starters. is our depth really that great at the cb spot? also, why did we resign henderson? as much as i loved watching him make the deep catches and throwing the deep td pass to him on madden 09 i have seen him drop way too many balls. that wasn’t the case with meachem. also, will arrington get some minutes this year after being injured last year. same with demario pressley. plus we got sharper and cmon, i know the guy isn’t what he used to be with the packers, but he can still play some pretty good ball. i’m putting the pedal to the floor untill the season is over. we have enough pieces to be in the mix of superbowl calliber teams and we haven’t even had the draft yet. remember 2006, how the colts D had played like absolute crap untill the playoffs started. then they dominated every game they played w/ their D. we might be the best D all year but we have the talent to beat out every team. plus our offense is potent yet again. no, i won’t be cautiously optimistic about this season!! i refuse and we should forget the caution. i was that way last year, we didn’t have a huge splash last year in the offseason and we went offense in the 1st round of the draft. This year we have helped to sure up a secondary that has been weak even in 2006. i don’t plan on missing the playoffs this year. i’m proud to be a saints fan in indiana even if i’m the only one. i wear my bush and colston jersey’s every chance i get the chance to and plan on getting a vilma, fujita, or porter jersey this year. Who Dat!! Go Saints!!