New Orleans Saints Media Coverage is a Rotting Fish
I’ll just begin by saying my sadness last week about Stanley Arnoux’s injury is gone. It’s replaced by anger. WWL 870am told Gus Kattengell to sleep with the fishes. So now we’ll have one less decent reporter covering the Saints.
Fantastic.
Media coverage of the Saints just continues to circle the bowl. I understand that 870am is in the last year of their contract with the Saints and have basically stopped saying, reporting or even thinking anything critical of the Saints in hopes of signing another contract. Hey, I’m all about self-preservation too so I get why they do what they do. I mean, if WWL 870am didn’t carry Saints games would you have any reason to listen at all? I’ll be completely honest, the only show on 870am I listen to is Monday night during the season because I like Mike Detillier and even he didn’t seem to hammer the Saints too hard last year. Hell, he didn’t even report any inside info after Drew Brees and Jeremy Shockey got into it when Atlanta housed the Saints. Something he used to do all the time when Buddy D was around. I think Deke Bellavia should just get it over with and wear a Saintsation outfit to Sean Payton’s Monday press conferences (or maybe not).
Now I know most of you don’t care about the media being hard on the Saints. I do. Maybe the whole "Kenny Wilkerson thing" has the media scared that they’ll be next. Jeff Duncan says the Saints got calls from teams wanting Randall Gay. Oh really? Then why was that not reported ANYWHERE ELSE? When I googled ‘Randall Gay trade rumors’ I got nothing else. Seriously, teams were calling about Gay but PFT, National Football Post, ESPN, SI, and every other football website never saw fit to at least post it as well? Jeff - if Mickey Loomis tells you he can fly, will you just report that as fact too?
The media just regurgitates whatever the Saints tell them and it pisses me off. Since the Saints started 6-1 in 2006 they are 19-22 in the two-and-a-half years since. Shouldn’t Sean Payton’s ass be on the line? Shouldn’t there be at least one media personality that busts the Saints balls on a daily basis? Entercom, who owns WWL, is in the crap hole so Kattengell getting the boot was probably about money and nothing else. He never ruffled any feathers at Saints camp but how can the flagship station not have a reporter assigned to cover the Saints daily? Sure they’ll send some intern out there to collect sound and interview players but shouldn’t "The Station of the Saints" have a higher standard? I’d like to think so.
Maybe it doesn’t really matter because probably fairly soon (like next year) Benson will buy a radio station and just put the Saints games on that station. Then the Saints will have a radio station to be their mouth piece 24/7/365. What will the Times Picayune sports staff have to do then? Let’s all hope the Saints go 14-2, because if they struggle and we start asking questions about what is going on, we know no one appears to have the courage to ask Sean Payton and company tough questions. The Saints wouldn’t answer them anyways.
If the Saints control all the information we get and they control the media that covers them it makes following the team less fun. Perhaps I should just follow the Times-Pic’s lead and not question anything. Everything’s fine, nothing to see here, move along, Black and Gold Super Bowl….
Saints Video to get you to buy that Reggie Bush Fat Head
Fifteen years ago the Saints traded for Jim Everett and I nearly lost my freaking mind. We just traded for ‘Chris’ Everett? What was Jim Mora thinking? Everyone was down in the dumps...then Jim Everett attempted to go Ike Turner on Jim Rome. Glorious! If this happened today I think the internet would go to Defcon 5, it would lead PTI, and Skip Bayless' face would melt like the nazi in Indiana Jones. Two of those would be pretty sweet. Suddenly I was like, “Hell yeah! Maybe this guy ain’t so bad. I like guys who don’t take crap (Bad ass guys are sexy, Anderson Cooper-like guys give me a headache). By kicking a pre-pubescent Jim Rome, Everett actually gained Saints fans' love. And he wasn’t bad by Saints QB standards. This video is like a great wine...time makes it better.
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Nice!
Anyone takin’ a poke at that jack@$$ Rome gets points in my book, a Saints QB doing it, BONUS!!!!
:-D
On the reporting front, gotta agree, not good. Chicken$4!7 move by WWL, and I don’t think it will score them a single point with the team when it’s time to re-up. It certainly isn’t scoring any points with the fans…
i never had more respect for everett than I did at that moment
not really saying much.
Being a Saints fan will take years off your life
Does AM radio still exist?
All this “foaming at the mouth” about which AM station reporter is fired and what newspaper reporter is not covering the Saints the way you would like him or her to. People, the real news is that AM radio and the newspaper are dead. I thought that everybody already knew this. Does anybody rely on AM radio or a newspaper for sports news? I hope not because both of them are dying animals and you will be in sad shape in a few years if you don’t come along with modern conviences like the internet and television. 20 years ago, maybe, not today. So, Hap, please get “all bent out of shape” about something that matters. Good to have you and the writing is getting a little better.
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by Big and Easy on May 19, 2009 8:27 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Somebody gets it
Radio is dead. It’s a stiff! Bereft of life, it has passed on and gone to meet its maker! It is an EX-media!
And newspapers as they exist today aren’t far behind. The writers realize this which is why they don’t ask the hard questions of Peyton and company, and don’t press when they do ask a question that the boys decide to tap dance around. They see the writing on the wall just as clearly as can be, and they hoping that maybe if they play nice they’ll survive a bit longer. It won’t help.
Ok, genius
So where’s the hard-hitting investigative work being done on the Saints by anyone in the television or online then, B&E? Way to miss the point, not that I should be surprised.
Great comment about radio, by the way. That’s what happens when 5 companies own a vast majority of the stations in your country.
I think YOU missed the point.....genius
The article that Hap wrote complained about how radio and newspaper reporters were NOT doing there job in reporting the dirt that you want to hear.
So where’s the hard-hitting investigative work being done on the Saints by anyone in the television or online then,
The answer to your deep and thoughtful question is NOT radio and newspaper, that’s for sure. Are you disputing or proving my point?
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by Big and Easy on May 19, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Read the title of the post
It’s referring, as HGG’s posts have in the past, to “New Orleans Saints Media Coverage” which, last time I checked, wasn’t limited to newspapers and radio.
To limit your response to newspapers and radio, therefore, would be to miss the broader point of the post, which is that HGG believes overall media coverage of the Saints is what sucks, rather than simply that which is available in the newspapers and on the radio.
To sum it up: I’m agreeing with the point you make regarding the state of radio in the US. I’m disagreeing with your decision to critique the whole of the post purely by focusing on the radio and newspapers.
AM radio is for...
people like me that live close enough that in the evenings, as the sun goes down, I can pick up a station from my hometown that is over 500 miles away. It’s great!
I understand
I can appreciate that. When I’m in the Dome, I listen to the radio broadcast. Radio has been a great tool, but it’s a dying product. 24 hour NFL network , blogs, and internet media in such as ESPN.com, Fox Sports, and many others are killing it a little everyday. Same with newspapers. They are fight a losing battle. No one is paying for day old news in the future. Why pay to read it a day after you read it on Fox Sports or saw it on NFL network the night before.
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by Big and Easy on May 19, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I was Just thinking
the same, I have the Direct TV NFL package,so I never miss a snap, but i always hoped for cloudy day in H-Town, so as to pick-up Buddy D’s point after show, “BACK-Up in your Tree YOU SQUIRREL”
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will know..Jim Mora Sr.
You may be surprised
I’ll be back on the air and covering the team very soon. The thing that I am most happiest about is that the hand cuffs that have been on me for years no longer exist. And we have an awful lot to get caught up on.
by Kenny Wilkerson on May 19, 2009 9:17 AM CDT reply actions
Wow, are you the one and the same Kenny W who used to do the sideline reporting during the games for WWL radio?
I bet you probably can’t say much, but what happened and what will you be doing soon with the Saints?
"Knock 'em the (- -) out!" - G Dub
Who fills the void?
Marcus, you made my point exactly. Yes, newspapers are near death but while blogs are great, we don’t report or cover the team. Maybe Wilkerson can give the info we want to hear about and ask tough questions. Hey Kenny, just please don’t tease us like you did at WWL always telling us about all the stuff going on with the team that YOU CAN’T TELL US ABOUT. If Jeremey Shockey does something dumb, tell us as soon as you know it, not three weeks later…I can’t wait that long for my Saints dirt.
anderson cooper is gay. not like dane cook gay--actually homosexual.
Good write-up—and I actually agree with your position!
The difference is just glaring when you compare coverage of the Saints to that of other teams—even newer, expansion teams have more in-depth reporting about the goings-on of their organizations—and it doesn’t make sense given how passionate as a whole the Saints fan base is. But it seems most people in New Orleans—reporters included—don’t really take their jobs too seriously… I obviously don’t, or else I wouldn’t be reading football blogs all day.
Hap I don’t know what to say, I’m not pissed off about this post— you must be growing on me…like a fungus.
Cuffs
Hap that is exactly what I am talking about with the hand cuffs. I never could get folks to understand that I was constrained and not ALLOWED to say things sometimes. Heck I was told on many occasions to NOT report something that I knew because the Saints would get ticked off. So I had to sit on it. The thing I regret is that I shouldn’t have said " well I know but I can;t say" I should have handled that better. But it doesn’t matter any more because I am working now for a station that is NOT the station of the Saints and has a financial investment to be concerned with.
by Kenny Wilkerson on May 19, 2009 9:53 AM CDT reply actions
That's comforting Kenny
I was told on many occasions to NOT report something that I knew because the Saints would get ticked off.
Would they get ticked off because they hate the fans or would they get ticked off because they want to keep fans from knowing what’s going on? Those Saints sure are a mean bunch!! Or do you think they didn’t want you to report something because it would effect the game or team in a negative way?
But it doesn’t matter any more because I am working now for a station that is NOT the station of the Saints and has a financial investment to be concerned with.
Nothing bad could come from this. And I wonder, what is your modivation? Is it to help the team or hurt them? Or do you care?
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The Truth
Kenny’s job and all media covering the team is report the truth. If the a story is negative and hurts the Saints that’s the Saints problem. And as a fan if the team expects me to buy tickets, Saints gear, NFL Sunday Ticket, watch NFL Network, etc then they should expect me to want critical/ negative information about teams.
Fan is short for fantatic..I want to know everything…period. The good, bad and ugly and no one in the New Orleans media delivers it.
When was the last time local media broke a story?
And Kenny if you give me good accurate dirt on the Saints I’ll find your reports and love them..but I’ll still hate you..I’m so conflicted!
There is this...
The media covers the Saints the best it can. OK, yes, there are sunshine pumpers in the group.
The biggest problem with the setup in covering the Saints – or any franchise/college/team – is that credentialing goes through the team. Write or say something the franchise doesn’t like and there’s a good chance you won’t be covering said franchise much longer.
This doesn’t necessarily make it right. But there is a bit of a hand-cuff effect going on. Back before pro sports became all about keeping secrets and keeping everything from being reported, this wasn’t necessarily a problem. Coaches and sports information departments realized the media had a job to do and the good came with the bad.
Now no coach or public relations rep trusts anyone. And they control a great bit of how the information gets out because they’re the ones who grant the access.
This isn’t to say that the media shouldn’t cover the Saints, or Hornets, or LSU, or any other team with a finer toothed comb.
But it’s definitely a hindrance in getting full, in-depth coverage.
by Lord of Misrule on May 19, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions
Motivation
There is no set motivation with me other than to do my job and report what I know without anybody trying to control me. Look I
want this team to win just as much as the other guy but it has been my expeirience over the years that the FANS should come first and deserve to know the truth about any and ALL things going on. Good or bad. The fans shell out their money and deserve the truth. That’s the best way I can put it. Yes the Saints worry about negative or bad news getting out and it affecting their team and there is nothing wrong with that. They have a tough task at hand in trying to keep 53 guys together and on the same page. The reality of it is that ALL teams have lot’s of good stuff going on from within and ALL teams have their share of issues to deal with. The fans deserve to know about these things not just what the team chooses to release. Heck they pitch a fit if an injury is reported a day sooner that when the weekly injury report comes out. And again there is nothing wrong with that. Their thinking is that they do not want t give the opposition any advantage and any extra time to prepare for something. But as a jounalist it is your duty to report what you know. I know that these aren’t life or death issues or issues that concern the rebuilding of this city but they are are issue about a team that is of great concern to the people in this city. Fans pay big bucks to support these guys and “it is what it is” as Sean Payton would say. It’s not about just going out there and digging up dirt , it’s about going out there and telling the fans about ALL the good and bad things that go on. It also is about having a firm opinion on all issues and sticking to your guns. The media will ALWAYS be the enemy and that will never change.
The bottom line is this. I have covered this team for going on 20 years now, 20 years. I have been away for about a year now and recovering from some very difficult surgeries as well as helping and supporting my wife who has cancer and that in itself can be a full time job. An opportunity came along for me to go back to work on a part time basis for now and I plan to do my job as I always have but witout someone telling me….hey we better not say that because the Saints might not like it. If there are restrictions than I would just assumed stay away and pursue other opportunties. But that is not the case. So it’s back to work and I hope all goes well and the Saints win every game they play but I think most people know that that is not reality. I’m not here to help or hurt them. There are still a few members of the media out there that aren’t afraid to tell the truth but it’s not like the old days. A lot of people don’t want ruffle any feathers and practically act as a mouthpiece. Such was the case with me during the last few years. We’ll see where these new roads take me, but I guarantee you this you won’t be disappointed.
by Kenny Wilkerson on May 19, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
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Thanks Kenny. Very well said. From your description, I don’t see how reporters can get around some of the road blocks teams sometimes throw up.
The media will ALWAYS be the enemy and that will never change.
It sure seems like that’s how Payton and most coaches feel.
Go Saints!!!! Deuce may be gone, but he will never be forgotten.
by David "Satch" Kelly on May 19, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Hate
By the way……Hap……hate is an awful strong word
by Kenny Wilkerson on May 19, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions
I hate everyone Kenny, don't take it personally
Pretty much all the media drive me crazy, although I hope you get better and I’ll be praying for your wife.
When you mention being hand cuffed how much does WWL control things? They didn’t seem to control Buddy and it just seems like you guys always were reporting great stuff then he died and it stopped. What changed? I mean it’s not like the Saints feared Buddy. Are ratings down and they think not reporting negative stuff will improve ratings?
And again everyone should keep your wife in your prayers…
You?
Pray? I’ve been gone for a couple weeks. Didn’t we get rid of you?
There is nobody so irritating as someone who is less intelligent than us and yet is wiser.
by Tigernut on May 21, 2009 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Buddy
Right there is the crust of the whole story. Buddy didn’t care if they let him go or not. He was set in his ways and more than happy to go into retirment if the station ran him off. He used to tell me all the time after I would give him some delicate information " I’m going with it and if they tell me to go home then that’s ok too" I used to laugh at how he would refer to being let go as being told to " go home’ but anyway that’s how it was. After he died things changed big time. Frankly I wasn’t in a position financially to pick up where he left off and have the same approach that I didn’t care if they told me to go home. A part of me deeply wnted to do that but I needed my job and was worried about supporting my family. There were several times that I told many people at thee office that maybe it was time for me to go because it was driving me nuts that I couldn’t completley roll with what I had. But sanity would take over and I would give in cause I wanted to stay there. There was and always be a big part of me that had planned to work there for the rest of my life. They did an awful lot for me but at the same time I gave those folks me heart and soul and went above and beyond more times than you can count. But like i said after Buddy died a lot changed and it still is that way over there and it’s never going to to back to the old ways. Gone are the days of indepth reporting. Being well read and having all the news that is already out there is good enough for them.I always worked under the premise of I wanted to know what everybody else was reporting but I wanted to also give folks stuff that they didn’t read eslwhere. How many times did you ever hear me report things that would then also come out the next day in the paper.
Buddy told me back in 1994 when I was on my way to Lacrosse to try to keep up with the good reporters in town. And I told ’ f***k that i’m going after stuff ’ and i got some stories that year and when i came bcak he told me he was proud of them. it was one of the best days of my life. But like I said that all changed when he died.
by Kenny Wilkerson on May 19, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions
Kenny, you and your wife will be in our prayers
In life, we all come across information that we would love to tell everybody that would listen, but as adults we have to consider that domino effect of what we say. In our position, as individuals, we know how big an impact it has when we say something that we sould have keep to ourselves. Now, if the media tells something similar, the dominos fall much greater and longer. I just don’t want to ruin the team or its chances for winning just so we can have something to talk about. The Saints are a business and someone buying a ticket to a game gives them the right to go to the game and that’s it. Buying a jersey gives you the right to wear that jersey and that’s it. If the media was bashing my business everyday, I wouldn’t be in business very long. They are smart to keep the bashing media at arms length.
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Wrong wrong wrong
So if media coverage isn’t a huge part of being a fan why does the NFL have their own bleeping network? Media ‘bashing’ as you call it has absolutely no effect on winning and losing. Last time I checked the New York media is out for blood every day and the Yankees have won 27 World Series titles.
So basically what your saying is all Saints fans should shut up, buy the tickets and watch the games. And the media shouldn’t report anything negative or something the Saints deem could ruin their team or cause them to lose.
In your world Big and Easy Saints get final say over everything I consume football wise.
That world sounds pretty #$%%
So let’s say a Saints player is charged with raping a women. Well, the dominos could fall all over the place and it sure could cause the team to fall apart but Kenny for the good of the team and the city should keep quiet and not get answers or make a fuss because the player is probably innocent and no one really cares any way all that matters is winning on Sunday…
I think we are discussing two different things
So let’s say a Saints player is charged with raping a women.
This type of news is always reported. Of course that type of event should not be kept from the media, and it’s not. That’s not at all what I’m taking about when I say that the team needs to keep the media at arms length. What doesn’t need to be run through the media spin rooms are stories like: Bush said that he’s not getting enough carries, Moore thinks that Shockey doesn’t like Brees, Colston thinks we lost because of play calling. All of this may be happening, but it would not help the team if Kenny W told Hap and Hap spun it her way and I read it on some blog. Yes, I would know about it and NO, it wouldn’t help the team, it would possibly hurt the team.
Now a question for you. If you could know about these things and you knew that it would cause at least 2 loses, would you still want to know?
So if media coverage isn’t a huge part of being a fan why does the NFL have their own bleeping network?
It’s so they can publicize team news and games on their own terms and cut people like you out of the loop.
Last time I checked the New York media is out for blood every day and the Yankees have won 27 World Series titles.
The Yankees have the largest payroll in MLB history and spend more every year. Did they make the post season last year, NO. If they have all the players and their fans know all that there is to be told in the world then why did they watch the post season from their livingrooms?
Dallas has more media than almost any other team. They had Terrell Owens, arguably one of the games best receivers. He had no off field problems with the law, drugs, dog fighting, or anything else I can think of,…………..except he couldn’t stop talking to the media. “I don’t get the ball enough.” Witten is Tony’s favorite." I think Tony throws to him because they are roommates." How did the media help “America’s Team”? It didn’t, all Dallas could do at the end of this media soap opera is cut one of the best players on their team. Will Dallas be a better team this year? Sure, the media leak is in Buffalo. Sure, they will win at least two more games this year and that’s with their star receiver shipped off to Buffalo.
Is that the type of results that makes for good writing? See, Kenny makes his living writing about the team that I love. With all respect to Kenny, I couldn’t care less if all the dirt diggers in New Orleans lose their jobs. Look, I’m not against dirt digging. Just dig up personal crap about Tampa and Carolina and Atlanta. Ruin their chemistry. Get them mad at each other. Have them not speaking to each other before the game against the Saints. Maybe if you slung mud their way instead of back at us, we wouldn’t be last in the NFC south.
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by Big and Easy on May 19, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I choose yes
what we the fans learn about the team doesn’t cause loses. If Colston and Shockey go ape @#% about play calling or let’s say Charles Grant had a fight with Brees(He did with Brooks so I guess in an alternate universe its possible)…whether or not we know of dirt going on in the locker room is not going to screw up the team and cause loses. The fight actually happening screws up the team and causes loses.
So when they are struggling I want answers and don’t except the Saints cliche excuses
Dirt
So many of these type of conversations always seem to turn out to be conversations about digging into “dirt”. That’s not what it is all about folks. It’s not about ONLY trying to find out what is going on that might be bad stuff and guys getting arrested or drugs charges or who’s fighting with you. Truth be told I would much rather not know any of that stuff. But the question is…..if I or any other member of the media stumble upon that kinda news is it right to not report it or do the fans deserve to know what is going on ? My answer is….of course they deserve to know. Who out there would be ok if they didn’t know anything about Deuce , Will Smith and Charles Grant testing positive and then through reporters doing their jobs finding out that the league knew about the stuff that was in the Starcaps that was banned and didn’t tell the players. That is a negative , dirt type story that without question the fans should know all that is possible. So where do you draw the line and at what point should a reporter take it upon himself to dictate what he should and should not report. As far as if any "dirt " type stories ever had anything to do with the outcome of a game. Well if you truly believe that it could then you must also believe in Tinkerbell. It never has and never will. And there is never a time that a reporter should not report what he knows to be true, good and bad. Unless of course he is told by his employer that he shouldn’t or that he must first get the team to confirm what he has learned. Boy what a nightmare
by Kenny Wilkerson on May 19, 2009 11:46 PM CDT reply actions
Kenny
Please explain why the front office of the Saints would not want the media to report on certain things if it wouldn’t hurt the team in any way? You can say that it won’t hurt the team, but you saying it doesn’t make it true. Please explain why TO is not a Cowboy? Is it because he is washed up? Why could Dallas not trade TO? Almost every team needs a great receiver. Why would there not be a long line for a great receiver?You won’t answer these questions so I will answer it for you. He is a cancer. He has made it his practice to talk to the media instead of talking to the person on his team that he has a problem with. He did it in San Francisco, he did it in Philidelphia, and he did it in Dallas. If this airing of dirty laundry didn’t effect their wins and loses, why did they cut TO? Please explain.
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