Be The Commissioner
Look, it's really hard trying to come up with ideas for stories at this time of year. What's Drew Brees' favorite jam? Who's the greatest receptionist in Saints history? Can a lizard be trained to handle Sean Payton's press conferences? Tried them, all of them...didn't work. (I couldn't stop the lizard from giving straight answers.)
So, we're left with this. You get to pretend to be the Commissioner of the NFL, and make one rule change. It can be a change in NFL policy, or a change in the game itself. Actually, it could be kinda fun if you give it a chance. Sure, it's total fantasy, and we all know Roger Goodell is an alien from Pluto and he's not going to go against his programming; but we might actually generate some decent ideas. Who knows, maybe we can have a vote afterwards and decide whose idea was best, and then when Dave gets back he can award the winner something from out of his shop...something expensive. I'm sure he won't mind.
I'll go first. I've mentioned this one before in a previous discussion—but I'm actually pretty fond of it, and I'd like to float it again where it can get more eyeballs. I'm curious to find out what people will think of it. Here's my idea:
Behind the line of scrimmage, the ball is always live.
Think what this will accomplish...for instance:
• No more "tuck rule." If there were no tuck rule, either the Steelers or the Raiders would have played the Rams in the Super Bowl...because Tom Brady's fumble wouldn't have been protected by the stupidest rule in the history of professional or amateur sports of any geological era. Tom Brady would have been a goat instead of a Super Bowl MVP, there wouldn't be a New England dynasty, and Gisele Bundchen would probably be hanging with some soccer player.
• No more wondering whether or not the quarterback's hand was coming forward. If there were no incomplete passes behind the line of scrimmage, Jay Cutler would be the goat and Ed Hochuli would still be the best NFL referee.
• No more backs whiffing on screen passes. How many times have you seen this? A running back flares out into the flat, the quarterback throws a perfect pass, and the ball clanks off his hands. Back shakes his head, taps his chest ("It's on me") and trots back to the huddle. No more: you better catch the ball or be ready to fall on it.
• No more spiking. Seriously: isn't this a dumb rule, too? Spiking is intentional grounding. Even with the liberalized grounding rules, it's still intentional grounding. But it has its own special exemption because...why?
• Fewer sacks. Quarterbacks of the league, do I have your attention? That's right: there's less incentive to pile-drive a passer if you can cause a turnover by batting down the pass instead.
I'm sure I could think of more examples if I tried hard enough, but I'm only a backup. Now it's your turn. Remember, Dave is watching, so don't make me look bad.
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I think they need to eliminate the stat line where
a defender can get credit for a sack of a quarterback AND THEN also a forced fumble if the ball comes out while sacking the QB on the same play (and then the recovery, too, for the trifecta, if he’s lucky).
I’ve seen plays where the defensive end or safety or LB sweeps around and knocks the ball out of the QB’s hand and then gets credit for a sack and a forced fumble on the play. Or, in the act of tackling the QB, the ball pops out and gets run back for a TD by the defense, and the player who nailed the QB gets credit for the sack and forced fumble. WTF????
This is a grave miscarriage of justice.
If it’s a sack, then the play should be dead at the point of the sack, because the sack of the quarterback is a tackle – and it ends the play. That’s it. Over, down, tackled. You can’t cause a fumble after a tackle.
Unless there’s some part of this ridiculous rule that I do not know about, or do not understand, this is a slam dunk.
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by HansDat on Jun 28, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great point
Agreed 100%. It should be one or the other. I also wish they kept track of field position of all tackles made. Mainly for their averages, not a cumulative tally. Obviously, the standard for excellence would differ greatly by position, but if a middle linebacker is consistently dropping running backs 2 or 3 yards in the backfield, I want a statistic that’s going to separate him from another who’s merely preventing long gains on the other side of the LOS. I think if you had such a statistic, you could eliminate sacks all together. Let’s be honest, what does it really matter WHO is getting dropped for a loss? QB, RB, WR on an end around … It all equates to less field position surrendered.
by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not with that at all
Sacks are the measuring stick of pass rushers. If a guy hits the QB forcing him to fumble the defender deserves a sack. If he gets so close to the QB he’s able to successfully swat the ball out of the QBs hand I think he’s earned a sack.
full disclosure, I’m a fan of the team that features the two most prolific strip sackers in the league.
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by shake n bake on Jun 28, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't it then be possible
for a player to be awarded two sacks on one play? The ball is stripped from a QB’s hand by a defender, the QB regains possession scrambles away from the pressure and attempts to pass again. He’s then leveled by the same defender. I could see giving him two FF’s if the ball was dislodged again, but two sacks? Why? He didn’t even put an end to the play the first time. The QB could have just as easily found a WR open downfield and completed a TD pass. Of what inherent value was that first “sack” then? They don’t credit tackle/FF combos as one of each. What’s the difference?
by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure how the scoring works now
but I seriously doubt anyone has ever been credited for two sacks on the same play. No QB tries to scoop the ball and continue the play after he’s had the ball striped away by the defender. In traffic you dive on the football.
I’m looking though some play by plays for how a play where a QB is hit and fumbles but recovers the fumble. So far the closest I found was
(14:16) (Shotgun) 11-R.Fitzpatrick sacked at CIN 18 for -8 yards (98-R.Mathis). FUMBLES (98-R.Mathis), and recovers at CIN 21. 11-R.Fitzpatrick to CIN 21 for no gain (68-E.Foster, 79-R.Brock).
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by shake n bake on Jun 28, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh wait
that is what I was looking for. The play was “3-6-CIN 26” so it was a loss of 5 yards
I think after a fumble it’s treated like run play instead of a pass, so the second time Fitzpatrick was tackled behind the line of scrimmage it isn’t a sack.
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by shake n bake on Jun 28, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of like that take
though I can see a lot of replay reviews being borne from it, particularly when the ball is batted down at the line. Did it or did it not break the plane of the line of scrimmage? It would have to be dissected on film, as the trenches tend to shift a yard or two in either direction during the course of a play. Love the cut-and-dried ideology behind it, otherwise.
I also completely agree with you on spiking the ball. The reason it’s not intentional grounding is because the QB is not “in imminent danger of being sacked”. That phrase is included in the official definition of intentional grounding. Yet, what would happen if a safety ran and leaped over the pile just as the ball was snapped, as if he were attempting to block a FG? Would the QB be penalized for intentional grounding then? Had he not spiked the ball, there’s a good chance he would have been sacked, being that he’s within a yard of the center. If anything, they’d probably flag the safety for unsportsmanlike conduct. That’s BS. A tight end and a fullback may both be in the general vicinity of a spike (another exception clause), but there is obviously no attempt being made to get them the ball. Spiking to stop the clock should be considered intentional grounding, point blank.
There are several other rule changes I’ve always been in favor of, but since you only asked for my top one, ah here ’tis:
Punts and kickoffs should both be required to hit in the field of play before going out of bounds. What sense does it make to penalize a team for illegal procedure in avoiding a dangerous return man on a kickoff, but not on a punt?
On top of which, how does anyone TRULY know how accurate a referee’s spot is, when lining up a coffin corner punt? The method in doing so involves visually observing where the ball lands, where the punter was standing at the time he punted, then lining those two points up along the sidelines.
If the ball lands in Row 10 of the stands, that method is even less accurate, due to the incline of the seating arrangment. You’re no longer talking about a level A-to-B plane in that instance, but they still treat it as such. Same thing goes for wind. If you don’t think out of bounds gusts at Soldier Field or Candlestick can affect the ultimate landing spot of a 15 ounce projectile, you’re crazy.
Still, until there are overhead cameras sophisticated enough to determine the exact spot the ball crossed the sideline, I think they should continue to use this flawed method … but only to determine the point from which the 15 yard procedure penalty should be enforced. Conversely, if a kickoff strikes the field of play at the one yard line and rolls out of bounds there, then that’s where the offense should begin their possession. Same with a punt.
Think about it. If a kicker is booting it that close to the sidelines, he’s already flirting with a penalty. So, if the returner has the opportunity to field the kick — which he would have, had he been in that spot — then why should the kicking team be penalized? Same thing with a punt. But screw this starting at the 40 yd line BS. If a punt of kickoff goes directly out of bounds, line it up and walk off 15 yards. If that’s not adequate enough, increase the yardage demerit to be enforced uniformly. Don’t try to convince me that a kickoff that goes out of bounds at the 39 and a kickoff that goes out of bounds at the 1 should both be brought out to the same spot (40). That bears no logic whatsoever.
Not only would this better define starting points following intentional changes of possession, it would both deter the pussified avoidance of kicking to Reggie Bush, Devin Hester, etc., while rewarding the few special teams coaches and/or punters/kickers with the cojones/accuracy to intentionally play against that grain. I really don’t think you’d see much of the strategic latter, though. And that’s a good thing, in terms of spectator excitement.
by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This one's easy for me
immediately institute the NCAA replay rule. Every play is reviewed, but by a ref upstairs. No stupid challenge flags (why should we be limited to how many ref mistakes could be corrected each game?), no pretense of ref going into the booth to say he was right all along, etc.
You’re welcome
by SaintBevo on Jun 28, 2009 6:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any call made on the field
being reviewed — aside from those occurring after the whistle — I have no problem with. I would never want penalties to originate from the booth, however. For example, a WR compains he was interfered with and nothing was called. I don’t care how obvious it is, that shouldn’t be reviewable. Otherwise, you’d have defenders pointing back to the line of scrimmage after every long play, claiming that so-and-so was holding.
by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are mixing your arguments up. You’re saying we shouldn’t call penalties “from the booth” because then penalties will get asked for “from the field”. But that doesn’t add up. I very much DO want penalties called from the booth. But ONLY from the booth. And the fact that his idea has already eliminated the stupid challenge flag prevents this from being a problem. The player can complain to the ref until he’s blue in the face but only if the ref upstairs sees it does anything get reviewed and adjusted.
by FriarBob on Jun 28, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was replying to SaintBevo's post
that was talking about instituting NCAA review rules. That has nothing to do with calling penalties, so I’m not sure how I was “mixing up my arguments”. I was just agreeing in principle, then elaborating upon the extent to which I’d be OK with such a change. To reiterate, I’m fine with the booth viewing any call made on the field. I’m not fine with them making their own (initial) calls. In other words, if the referees on the field miss a pass interference call, then it shouldn’t be called. The NCAA doesn’t call penalties from the booth, they only uphold or overturn them. So, what you’re proposing goes beyond that. I’m saying as long as it doesn’t cross that theshold, I’m fine with it. And right or wrong, I’ll never be OK with overturning a possession call that involved a whistle between the turnover and the recovery. IMO, a play like that should never be reviewable on any level.
by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say eliminate advancing the ball to the spot of the foul on pass interference
I am sick out seeing loosing teams at the end of games, throw the ball 50 yards down the field just to create a pass interfenence call and kick a field goal to win the game. Pass interference sould be a 15 yard penalty unless the defender tackles the receiver before the ball gets there.
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by Big and Easy on Jun 28, 2009 6:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather see
it as is, only award the defense a change of possession if an offensive pass interference penalty occurs. If you’re going to give the WR the benefit of the doubt that he would have caught the ball had he not been interfered with, why shouldn’t the defender receive the same leeway? I think that’s fair.
by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to break my own rule and offer another one
Does that mean everyone else can too? NO! Bwahahahaha! I rule until Dave gets back.
Here’s another one: to score a touchdown a player must be down in the end zone in possession of the ball. No more “breaking the plane” nonsense. You must physically “touch down” in the end zone. I am so sick of watching players run out of bounds but hold the ball over the pylon and get credit for a score. Even when it’s Reggie.
Okay, you guys can go ahead and post as many ideas as you want. Hell, we’ll get more comments that way, anyway. And so, for coldpizza of New Orleans, opportunity knocks!
This is OUR year!
by MtnExile on Jun 28, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I whole heartedly concur with you regarding the "breaking the plane" rule
actually I was going to suggest that myself aswell, but since it is taken here is my second beef.
Dump the stringent “taunting” rules! This is FOOTBALL! Modern Gladiator-like sports…not tiddly winks. If a WR burns his defender then he has the right to trash talk and point fingers. If someone scores a TD then let the man do his “thing” (maybe put a time limit of 30 second to 1 minute to do so), but still he should have that right. Everyone complains when the team is too “soft” or “vanilla” but taunting isn´t allowed because it´s “unsportsmanlike”. WTF! Man what happened to the good ol´days when dudes be talking down on the other dudes momma, dudes poking each other in the facemask or eye and getting that finger bitten(off) for doing so. Now that was football!! Bring back the toughness and jukin´moves in the end zone. :-)
by shecky on Jun 28, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simple solution to all of the TD celebration nonsense
As soon as the TD is scored, start the play clock for the PAT. If the scoring team doesn’t get the snap off in time, penalize them 15 yards for “intentional delay of game” on the ensuing kickoff. Any other delay of game could still carry a 5 yard penalty. It would be like the old facemask rule, with two levels. If you think you can squeeze in an elaborate choreographed dance number between plays, go for it. Either that or wait until after the PAT to celebrate, while TV stations are away on commercial break. That way, you’re not prolonging the game, nor are you giving the cheap bastards sitting on their asses at home any more of a free show.
by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is tiddly winks???
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by Saintsational on Jun 29, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s something like patty cake
by FriarBob on Jun 29, 2009 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats not really the point- Its an old saying/analogy, but... since you asked
according to Wikipedia:
Tiddlywinks is an indoor game played with sets of small discs called “winks” lying on a surface, usually a flat mat. Players use a larger disc called a “squidger” to pop a wink into flight by pressing down on one side of the wink. The objective of the game is to cause the winks to land either on top of opponents’ winks, or ultimately inside a pot or cup.
by shecky on Jun 29, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh goody
Overtime. I think it should be more like NCAA rules, only starting field position for both teams would NOT (necessarily) be the opponent’s 25 yd line. Instead, it would be systematically based on the total net yards gained from scrimmage throughout regulation.
I’ll use last season’s game against the Chargers in London as an example. Let’s assume the fourth quarter ended in a 37-37 tie. The game’s official statistician would be consulted. As it turns out, total net yards favored the Chargers, 451-409. A percentage would be calculated and rounded off to the nearest whole number. That number would then be used to determine the centralized point of origin for both team’s initial offensive possession.
Since San Diego gained 52% of the net yardage total in the game, their overtime possession would begin from the Saints 48 yard line. This would also be the Saints’ starting point, only they’d be driving in the opposite direction, thereby giving the Chargers a four yard advantage, which they would have earned in regulation.
In this particular case, there is little difference between the two teams, so the field position advantage is negligible. However, in a 3-3 game where one team completely dominated the other throughout, only to miss a handful of chip shot FGs in a hailstorm, this could (and should) prove greatly advantageous.
Also, unlike the college system, it doesn’t completely disregard the importance of a stingy defense by handing the ball to the opposing offense within FG range. The net yards gained actually takes BOTH offense and defense into account and — to varying degrees — awards the team that proved superior through 60 minutes of play.
I’ll take three steps further:
a.) Both teams would be alotted an equal number of possessions. However, you would either have to be ahead by six points, OR by at least one point at the end of the 15 minute OT period, in order to win. That means no matter what sort of field position advantage you were given, a single FG probably would be enough to win you the game.
b.) If the defense scored on the opponent’s possession — i.e., a fumble, interception or blocked FG attempt returned for a TD — the game would automatically end, provided they were ahead by six points or more following that score. In other words, the sheer formality of kneeling the ball four times by the scoring team to preserve the margin of victory would never factor into the aforementioned “equal number of possessions” rule.
c.) If a defensive team gained possession of the ball, OR held the opposing team on downs, they could opt to take possession at that point, rather than at the predetermined starting point.
Assume the Chargers start on the Saints 48, Tracy Porter intercepts a Philip Rivers pass and returns it to San Diego’s 15, the Saints could opt to start their first possession right there, not back on their own 48. Pretty much a no-brainer there. However, suppose San Diego winds up stifling our offense anyway. A couple of sacks, a missed FG, fumble, whatever. Well, they’d obviously opt to start on our 48 again, not deep in their own territory. It would be a possession-by-possession decision that would have to be made. The pre-determined starting point would merely demarcate the worst case launching spot for the offense.
by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2009 8:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
correction
a single FG probably wouldn’t be enough to win you the game.
I need to learn to proofread before clicking post.
by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow!!!
Rainman,
How long do they allow you to use the computer a day and what time is bed check?
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by Big and Easy on Jun 28, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zoinks!!!
Simpleton,
Bed check is 1:00am. How long will it be before you contribute something worthwhile to this thread?
by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pizza
It was just a joke.
The game’s official statistician would be consulted. As it turns out, total net yards favored the Chargers, 451-409. A percentage would be calculated and rounded off to the nearest whole number. That number would then be used to determine the centralized point of origin for both team’s initial offensive possession.
You’ve got to admit it was funny.
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by Big and Easy on Jun 29, 2009 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
451-409
isn’t exactly Rainman material. Had I suggest field starting position be determined by the 82-82-82 … 246 toothpicks left in the box, then maybe your joke would have struck me as amusing. Now that I’m aware of its humorous content, I’m LOLing on the inside. Where it counts.
by coldpizza on Jun 29, 2009 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yikes
chill. anytime you start a post with :
Instead, it would be systematically based on the total net yards gained from scrimmage throughout regulation.
You’re opening yourself up to a little good-natured ribbing
by SaintBevo on Jun 29, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I don’t know how else I could have phrased it. I don’t think the starting points should be the same (unless both teams performed equally) and I’d want more emphasis to be put on what happened during regulation. I guess I could have made it really simple and said, “whichever team had the most yards from scrimmage in regulation is declared the winner”. Or “whichever team wins the coin toss, wins the game”. I actually think either one of those are better than the other team not getting a possession. If the coin decided it, maybe more coaches would go for 2 pt conversions to avoid OT. Not that 2 pt conversions are converted 50% of the time, but at least there’s the sense of controlling your own destiny.
by coldpizza on Jun 29, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks bevo
I thought I might be the only one that thought this rule change was difficult to understand. I would love to here Madden explain this after the coin toss and before the start of OT. This is football, right? Do we need an official statistician to make the start of OT fair? People that don’t like plays being reviewed would have a hay day with this one.
Pizza, I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings. It’s a great idea, just a little complicated, that’s all I meant.
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by Big and Easy on Jun 29, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's a fairly simple
methodology, just difficult to describe. It’s a single, fixed worst case scenario starting point for both teams, based on the percentages of yardage they racked up during the first 60 mins of play. That’s pretty much it in a nutshell.
by coldpizza on Jun 29, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like the overtime idea
if both teams are playing all offense with no defense almost then the offenses should both get a chance instead of say, us kick off to a team that drives and kicks a FG and we don’t get a chance when it was a 37-37 game pretty much showing that there was no defense involved
Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D
by skinnykinney on Jun 28, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Change Overtime
Each team starts at the 20 yard line and tries to score. If one team does and the other doesn’t, the team that scored wins!
The college way. :)
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
by Grady90 on Jun 29, 2009 3:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
College overtime
is a nightmare. I think it should just be that each team gets at least one possession. If you get the opening kicjoff and go down and score a TD, you have to kickoff to the other team and they get that possession to try and tie it up again. You get a max of 15 minutes to break the tie. That way all phases of the game O, D and ST come into play.
by SaintBevo on Jun 29, 2009 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I despise college overtime. It completely undermines teams built on defense. Under your proposal, what would happen if the team that scores first onside kicks and recovers it? Also, what happens if the second team ties it up? Would a subsequent score by the first team end it, or would the second team get an equal number of possessions? I agree with the 15 mins max. I truly have no problem with ties, even at the end of regulation.
by coldpizza on Jun 29, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem with ties
Me neither. I wish they’d just save overtime for the postseason.
Or how about this: just add another quarter. Forget the coin flip, the kickoff, and everything else associated with overtime. If the 4th quarter ends in a tie, just add another fifteen minutes. The teams switch goals, and the offense continues just as it would at the end of the 3rd. If the first overtime period ends in a tie, add another quarter. Keep going until one team wins or people start dying. Then wait for the pundits to write about how broken the overtime system is, and just abolish the whole thing.
This is OUR year!
by MtnExile on Jun 29, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit, whatever
As long as both teams get a chance in OT. I hate NFL OT.
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
by Grady90 on Jun 29, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another change I'd immediately institute
would be to eliminate all regular network games, shifting them all to the NFL network. I’d also set the Sunday NFL ticket prices to reflect how many teams you were interested in following, with one team being the equivalent to the average stadium seat price of that team’s home stadium. You’d get discounts the more teams you subscribed to, kind of like a cable/phone/internet package with Cox. Of course, you’d only be paying for what amounts to one season ticket, if all you wanted to do was follow the Saints. You’d still save on gas, parking, you could get your friends to come over and pitch in, etc. I just think there should be more of an financial upside (or less of a downside, depending on how you look at it) to actually attending games, i.e., supporting the NFL. Waaaay too many freeloaders out there. If that makes me a money-hungry “fascist”, then so be it.
by coldpizza on Jun 29, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would love it if NFL coverage were offered on an ala carte basis. I live out of state, so I have to go to a bar at 10:30 Sunday morning to watch most Saints games. Some days that can be pretty fun, but the other 12 it can be a little harrowing. The cable company here is in a feud with the NFL, so I’d have to switch to satellite to even have the Sunday Ticket option. My pc works fine, though. I’ll give the NFL 5 to 10 bucks for the weeks that I want to sit at home and watch the games I want to watch. I can’t even stream WWL without buying the entire season at once for a ridiculous price. Maybe I’m a cheap bastard, but give my kind an option to buy only what I want to buy, not just the “Total Package” for a prohibitive price. I’m tired of watching Cowboys games and frantically refreshing the NOLA.com stats ticker.
by FuSoYa on Jun 29, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet another
This one’s a bit drastic, but I wouldn’t mind seeing the goalposts narrowed considerably and placekickers done away with all together. Just use punters. If the FG attempt falls short, there’d be a guy back there to return it. Kind of like Arena ball, just without the rebound nets. Kickoffs could also be handled by punters, like they are on free kicks following safeties. If the 30 yard line is inadequate for the average punter to reach the end zone, move the kickoff line up to the 40 or 45. You could still “bloop” an onside punt. That would be the official term, too. “Bloop”. Bunting with the foot. Say it with me. “Bloop”. Fun stuff.
by coldpizza on Jun 29, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I forgot the most important rule change of all
These effing squiggly sky dancer things?

BANNED!
If I never see another one of those in my life, it will be too soon.
Also, any team caught using an inflatable entrance tunnel, or playing “Sirius” by the Alan Parsons Project during pre-game introductions, would be penalized 15 yards on the opening kickoff and fined heavily.
by coldpizza on Jun 29, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's a radical one: a sliding point scale for field goals
The whole point of football is capturing territory, right? So why does a field goal from the 50 count the same as a field goal from the 10? Yeah, it’s harder…but so what? Too many times great kickers compensate for inept offenses.
Under my system, if the line of scrimmage is from the 1 to the 20, you get three points for a field goal. If it’s from the 21 to the 40, you get two; if it’s from the 41 to anywhere else on the field, you only get one point. You want more points? Then drive deeper, you bunch of wusses.
Imagine this: there’s five seconds left and one team is down by 3. They need a field goal to tie it and send it into overtime…but they’re on the 21, with no time outs left. They need one more yard. Talk about your sports drama.
This is OUR year!
by MtnExile on Jun 29, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like that!
A lot, actually. I’ve always thought about that in the reverse, i.e., FGs worth more the longer they are. The inherent problem with that being, if you were down by 4 and driving into 3 territory, you’d have no incentive to advance the ball. You’d have quarterbacks on the trailing team taking a knee with under two minutes left, just to stay within that game tying/winning range. The longer the less would eradicate all of that. Way to think outside the bun, Taco Belvedere.
by coldpizza on Jun 29, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Return to drop kick and mandate playing on both sides of the ball
1. Soccer-style kicking has made the game a 50-yard game rather than 100-yard. How many times do teams build up 12, 15, even 18 points in a game without ever even crossing the goal line? there’s no way that something as routine as field goals should count for almost half the points as something as hard as a touchdown. How many time does a team drive all the way down the field in the final minutes to score a winning touchdown, only to have a decent kick return to the 35 yard line and one or two quick passes for 25 yards (or a single pass interference call, e.g. Minnesota last year) to set up the the kicker to almost inevitably (unless Saints) steal the whole thing back? The answer is very simple: don’t allow a holder and require the ball to touch the ground before kicked (hence a “drop-kick”) like it was done when our dads were kids. (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTNuieH-p7U). It would also add a great dynamic action dimension to the game which is lost – imagine if a quarterback or running back is expected to learn how to make a drop-kick, so that in the red-zone in the middle of a busted play or as a fake they can drop-kick it through the goal posts. (note: they can do this now, but no one learns how any more, except doug flutie of course: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKfcwuh17DA&feature=related).
2. Every player has to play at least one play on every side of the ball every series. Why do we all hate the DH in baseball, allowing one player on each team to not have to play defense and each pitcher to not play offense, but we think its fine to have it in football? I know the whole idea of offensive/defensive specialists was invented by LSU coach Paul Dietzel, whose defensive unit “Chinese Bandits” would come in with fresh legs and tear up a tired team a few drives per game. But really, its made football into a specialized sport. Football shouldn’t be a specialized sport. It is already the greatest team sport, but its not half the team sport it was as when you depended on your teammates on both sides of the ball (and special teams). Its hard to imagine admiring Deuce more than our city already does – imagine if he was a stud Linebacker as well? Who wouldn’t want to see Vilma running the ball, or making blocks as a pulling guard? Maybe this could be done by requiring a much smaller team roster, (which owners would of course love). Can you imagine T.O. and Randy Moss and Plaxico being attention crybabies then? Instead of getting to come on the field and run a pattern for a few plays per series, and roaming the sidelines acting hotshot for the next 15 minutes, they’d have to strap back in and stop the other team from scoring. I went to a small high school, and played quarterback and safety/linebacker. I can’t imagine having only gotten the chance at that age to play just one side – I would have been completely robbed of the joy of the game! I played some QB in college and just always felt like I was missing something.
I admit, there may be more injuries. I doubt Randy Moss would make it. But because it would require a lot more toughness and endurance, people would be in better shape so there wouldn’t be 350 pound lardasses on the field. Combined with the next rule, linemen would return to being the footwork, tough skill position it used to only be before the lazy Jonathan Sullivans of the world got drafter for pure oafy size and spent five minutes on the field with 15 minute oxygen breaks. And I have no doubt that Drew Brees would be one hell of a tough safety – can you imagine him letting big plays happen in the secondary last year? Hell no. He’s an athlete who beat Andy Roddick at tennis as a kid – but I feel like we’re only getting to admire him for half the skills he otherwise would have. Would he be as dominating on offense? Sure, because he would be competing against other players who have to go both ways. Would he be the zen master of offense that he is now? Probably not, because he’d have to spend a good amount of time mastering defense as well, but (a) i can tell you from experience that 85% of his preparation would still be spent on offense because QB is the keystone of the whole offense, (b) it would probably add to his mastery of the game as a whole, and © if that were how we judged things alone, then why not apply the same criteria to other sports? Why not allow basketball to specialize in different defensive players who never have to practice shots and offensive players who can spend all year perfecting passing and shooting alone? Because it is not only a bit absurd but also because we would lose the love for the game that we get when Chris Paul leads the league in assists and in steals. Can you imagine Chris Paul allowing himself to be taken out for HALF the game?!?! Man, I would love to see Drew Brees command the defense like he commands the offense. We would win the super bowl tomorrow, hands down, because our MVP would be the league MVP every year til he retired. Brady and Manning would have nothing on Brees’ athleticism.
3. Again, retro tougher football. No more use of open hands on offensive line. People get away with holding all the time. Much easier – make an o-lineman carry a brightly colored object (like a pair of leather gloves) in their hands, and if they drop it, they’re called for holding, period. Can’t drop it unless (and until) the ball is thrown to you. Maybe receivers have to do this as well. Which would feed into #4 below. If you use your hands to block on offense – holding, period. Go back to when lineman were tough nuts who learned to block with their bodies and their feet rather than their arms. Bring back the forearm shiver!
4. No use of hands at all between WR and CB. Automatic interference. They’re all over each other so much, and what counts as interference and holding has become so subjective that its a joke, and it really spoils a lot of the game. I’m all for having to have tougher players – hands is not toughness. Feet are. Plus, if we make WR play on both sides of the ball, then they’ll be tough.
Many more I’ve thought about over the years, but I just had to have the cathartic experience of releasing these top ones off my chest.
by oystershuck on Jun 30, 2009 7:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea
of something in the hands of linemen. Maybe two form-fitted fluorescent orange grips — kind of like stress balls, only tubular shaped — attached to the jersey sleeves under the arms, by a short tether. If the grip swings loose during engagement with an opposing non-ball carrier, you’re penalized 10 yards for holding. The only problem I foresee with that are centers, who need their hands free to snap the ball. Why not just make it where plays start with the QB already holding the ball, just in contact with the center’s back or butt? There doesn’t have to an actual snap. On FG attempts, start the play on an verbal signal by the holder. “SET!” Kicker begins approach, defenders are cued to commence rush. Not only would this eliminate bad snaps, it would improve blocking upfront, as the center wouldn’t start the play more off-balanced than the everyone else. It may also prolong their careers, as I’m sure all those quick between-the-legs arm thrusts aren’t doing a whole lot of good for their lower backs. Feel free to turn that into an off-colored joke.
by coldpizza on Jun 30, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the purpose
of the tether would be to prevent the grips from winding up all over the field, in case that wasn’t obvious. And also to allow linemen to let go of the grips on impulse, in order to go after fumbles.
by coldpizza on Jun 30, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea of outlawing the use of hands
…but the use of props is taking things too far. Just roll back the rules to the era where linemen were trained to hold their own jerseys and block with their shoulders, and let the refs call holding when they see it.
Another “tougher” rule that I would LOVE to see is to allow defensive backs to hit receivers anywhere on the field. If you do it while the ball is in the air, that’s interference, a no-no. But if you clobber a wide receiver 15 yards downfield—before the ball is thrown—because he dared to try to run a crossing route through your territory…well, that’s what analysts really mean when they talk about receivers who aren’t afraid to go over the middle. They used to say that about courageous receivers back when it meant something, and they just got so used to it that they still use the phrase for modern receivers who might as well have a neon “Do Not Touch” sign around their neck. Courageous? That’s like saying someone is courageous for crossing a street in a crosswalk with a walk signal and a cop standing on the corner.
This is OUR year!
by MtnExile on Jun 30, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It still takes at least some courage to go for a catch as a skinny 6-2 160 pound shrimp (yes I’m deliberately understating it) knowing you are going to get smashed into by a 200 pound guy traveling at warp ten with only the only thought in his mind being “flatten that guy”.
by FriarBob on Jun 30, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tear away jerseys for linemen?
Then holding would be flagrant on its own.
by FuSoYa on Jun 30, 2009 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
End the "no fun league"
seriously, it is absolutely ridiculous that players are getting flagged for celebrating. I, for one, have never taken offense to it and have always found many of those moments funyy, even if the players were asses (TO). Besides a celebration never hurt anyone. In fact it might help an opposing team by giving them something to get motivated about.
by metal_militia on Jun 30, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Pizza’s “start the play clock immediately after the touchdown” rule would pretty effectively solve that issue. Dance if you want. Hey, you did your job correctly, you should celebrate! Every time I pull a properly risen souffle’ out of the oven, I call my sister on a cell phone I keep under the fryer. But don’t take so much time dancing that you end up kicking your PAT from the 7 or the 12.
by FuSoYa on Jun 30, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's another one
that I thought of reading another thread: include penalties among those plays that can be challenged. If we could have challenged Reggie’s fumble-after-the-face-mask play, for instance. Really: if the league is going to give a team only two challenges per game, why should it limit what you can challenge? Why should it care?
This is OUR year!
by MtnExile on Jun 30, 2009 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The thing with that play
Even if they challenged it and saw the facemask, they can’t call a penalty off of a replay. There also wasn’t any “indisputable visual evidence” that the facemask caused the fumble. He wasn’t down by contact, so what’s to say that he wouldn’t have fumbled anyway? What call could have possibly been made to overturn it? No fumble … based on what? The bottom line is, he shouldn’t have let go of the ball. They should have called the facemask also, but it wouldn’t have mattered either way, had he not fumbled. Their not having a challenge was inconsequential, if I understand the rules correctly. I think even if they had had a challenge remaining, it wouldn’t have been overturned.
by coldpizza on Jun 30, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not so sure about that. The way the guy yanked on the helmet at the VERY least caused Reggie to be a bit distracted from his real duty of holding onto the ball. The fact that it made it easier for the guy to get close enough to reach AROUND him to strip the ball would also be a strong factor. Indisputable? Maybe not. But what call these days is? Not many. And it was VERY conclusive.
by FriarBob on Jun 30, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Btw I understand what you're saying
But that wasn’t a penalty. It was a LACK OF a penalty.
by coldpizza on Jun 30, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but my point is
you should be able to challenge the play, say “There should have been a facemask penalty,” have the ref look at it and say, “Yeah, he’s right! Damn!”, call the penalty, march off the yardage, and give the Saints back the ball. I know you can’t call a penalty on a replay…that’s what should be changed.
This is OUR year!
by MtnExile on Jun 30, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then what would stop
defensive teams from challenging up to two scoring plays per game, in hopes that they might be overturned by an uncalled holding penalty? It would be a weekly nuisance up until that point one was actually reversed. At which point, it would cause a crowd riot.
by coldpizza on Jul 1, 2009 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If his head was rolling around on the ground next to him, Bush’s body should still be holding the ball, but the facemask happened BEFORE the fumble, which, if penalized correctly, would have negated the fumble I think. Nothing in the rulebook to fix a call like that, though. And that’s how reffing the wind out of a team’s sails works.
by FuSoYa on Jun 30, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoa… MJD actually wrote an intelligent article for once. Mark this one down in your diaries folks! OK, sarcasm aside, his writing is at least fairly often rather poor but this one is head and shoulders above the rest. If I was commish I think this would be my absolute second change (as soon as I fixed replay of course).
by FriarBob on Jun 30, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate links that aren’t properly URL-encoded… grrr….
by FriarBob on Jun 30, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As Commissioner
I would also demand that all team owners have their faces surgically removed and replaced with generic [insert face here] prompts like mine. My UFA (United Faceless Army) would represent Phase One of my masterplan to seize and control the landscape of professional sports. Anna Kournikova would perform for me daily in pigtails and a fishnet body suit. Perhaps I’ve divulged too much information.
by coldpizza on Jul 1, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs





















