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Well We Need Another LB

It looks like Dan Morgan is already out for good.  Ala Rotoworld:

The agent for LB Dan Morgan, Drew Rosenhaus, writes on his Twitter page that Morgan has informed the Saints he will retire again.
Morgan announced his first retirement in May 2008, citing a slow recovery from Achilles' surgery. Now 31 and still unable to stay healthy -- he strained his calf at New Orleans' June minicamp -- Morgan's latest retirement is probably for good. He will finish his career having never played more than 13 games in a season, although when healthy Morgan was one of the league's fiercest middle linebackers as a Panther in the early- to mid-2000s.

Is Ellis still available?  Lets go get him.

From Rosehhaus's twitter page:

Dan Morgan has informed the Saints that he has decided to retire due continued injuries. Dan would like to thank the Saints for the chance to come back this year, but injuries would not let him continue his career. His decision is final and he will be moving on to focus on his restaurant business in Charlotte. Dan also wants to be able to spend more time with his wife and children.

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by Saintsational on Jun 8, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

makes me want to cry

Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D

by skinnykinney on Jun 8, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Other Options

Who else is out there?

by ReggieVilma on Jun 10, 2009 12:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

payton says

that he’s cool with the depth they have right now… hmm… not sure if we’re gonna pick up one more… but we’ll see

by nanvinnie on Jun 10, 2009 9:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

here's where

the local media curls up into a fetal position. Coach Payton is content with the depth at OLB, despite having just lost a player who, by all prior accounts, was expected to battle for a starting gig on the weak side. I think a pretty good follow-up question would have been "if you’re content, then why did you spend a 4th round pick on a linebacker? Being that we only had five picks to work with, wouldn’t that superfluous selection have been better spent something more vital? Like … oh I don’t know … say a RB that can convert a 3rd and inches? Or better yet, Thomas Morstead!!!!!1 Draft him in the 4th and you don’t have to trade up to get him later on. That would have given you TWO picks to blow on positions you’re content with. Seriously, what were you thinking, Sean? GRAHAM HARRELL COULD HAVE BEEN OUR SEVENTH ROUND CLIPBOARD-HOLDING MESSIAH. " Instead, we get an uber informative “thanks Coach”. Yep, Hap Glaudi’s Ghost was clearly off the mark with his recent observations on what’s wrong with this picture (or lack thereof).

by coldpizza on Jun 10, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There are so many errors in that post I don’t know where to start… but I’ll just dive in and see what happens.

Fetal position? Nope. They asked multiple questions in that press conference about the LBs. They asked about Brooks. They asked about Morgan. They asked about Arnoux’s injury too I believe. Just because they didn’t get an answer that makes you happy doesn’t mean they just spinelessly refused to ask any questions about the “awesome wisdom of Peyton”.

Battle for a starting gig? Nope. He was battling for playing time. That’s all he was billed as, a player who could get some field time and help out. YOU wanted him to battle for a starting gig, Peyton made no such suggestion.

What in the heck does a draft choice have to do with whether he is content right now? Good night man get real! You don’t draft people in the fourth round expecting them to come in and be a superstar in their rookie year. Colston was a once-a-decade miracle, that doesn’t happen like falling off a log. And you definitely don’t draft somebody in those rounds in expectation he’ll be filling in for an injured player later in the year. They drafted Arnoux to contribute this year if they were lucky and worst to worst hopefully to get another young player who in future years could eventually replace an incumbent starter when they retired. With the exception of punters and kickers, anybody in the 4th round or later is expected to be nothing more than a camp body until proven otherwise. Of course you always hope for more, but you *_never*_ count on it… if you have any sense at all, at least.

Only five picks to begin with? Oops again. Try four.

Superfluous selection? Au contraire. Whether or not our current LBs are good enough for the present, they aren’t going to be around forever. You must try to stock up on the players who will be key cogs in 2011 or 2012 or so, and the only way to do that is to take a wild guess on both who needs to be replaced first and who will be able to replace them.

A RB that can convert 3rd and inches? You know, I wasn’t particularly happy to see them unceremoniously dump Karney and pick up Evans but the problem wasn’t just our RBs last year. The problem was also the line not opening up enough holes, the FB not getting enough of a pop on the LBs shooting gaps, the refs failing to call offsides at times, Deuce being injured, Bush being injured, and more. But even if the ONLY problem we’d had last year was the lack of some unstoppable boulder of a RB who could get those last few inches for us, what on earth makes you so sure you’re going to find one of them in the 4th round? Have you forgotten so quickly how the PT cruiser made the team in the first place? He beat out a 4th round draft pick in Antonio Pittman, a “bruiser” that everybody “knew” was Deuce’s future replacement someday… oops…

And if you’re going to draft a punter in the 4th, it likely wouldn’t have been Morstead. It would have been Kevin Huber, who was pretty universally considered the best punter available in the draft and who hadn’t been picked by Cincinnati yet. And even if he had drafted Morstead in the fourth, he still wouldn’t have had “two picks” to “blow”. Trading up involved 2010’s 5th rounder and this years 7th.

As for Graham Harrell, I’m sorry, but I just really couldn’t care less if you paid me. I see you have a man-crush the size of Jupiter on him but get over it already. He’s not available. He’s not going to be available. Get over it and start worrying about who you want him to pick up next year so you can give yourself another aneurysm when he fails to listen to your advice then as well.

But aside from the 100% error rate, you were absolutely correct in everything else you wrote.

by FriarBob on Jun 10, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry

I forgot to turn on and off the sarcasm font. The majority of the post was tongue-in-cheek. You’re right about the pick surrendered being next year’s, I was thinking it was this year’s fifth. Regardless, it represents another player they could have had at some point.

To clarify, I wasn’t questioning what they DID ask, I was questioning what they DIDN’T ask. More specifically “why are you content with the 2008 version of the linebacking corps NOW, when you evidently were not content — at least, not to the point of standing pat — on Draft day?” Defend the rhetoric, the decisions, whatever you want … it’s a valid question that begged to be asked and one I never heard posed to Sean Payton.

The rest of the rant was based on the presumption that he truly was content with the LB situation, as he asserted. If we’re right where we need to be, i.e., no room for improvement, there was no reason to draft a LB. I’m not saying that’s what I suscribe to. I’m saying Sean Payton, in this particular case, is full of crap and should have been called out on it. Or at least grilled to the same degree a Jets or Giants coach spewing the same “all is well” message would have been by the NY media.

You’re jumping to all sorts of conclusions, presumably based on taking my post 100% seriously. Was the need for a short yardage back in the 4th round paramount? Of course not. But it SHOULD HAVE BEEN more important than a throw away LB pick — again, based on Payton’s stated level of contentment. You’re right about Huber, but that wasn’t the point there. The (sarcastic) point was if you intentionally wasted one pick, you could have saved yourself another pick in not trading up to do the same again.

Graham Harrell was another angle. Another position they (seemingly) didn’t need, that COULD have been drafted pointlessly. Are you starting to catch on? I don’t have a man-crush on anyone. He was an undrafted QB (i.e., a position the Saints had little to no need of drafting) that I just picked out of the blue, in orderr to come across as slightly more ridiculous than Payton’s faux position did.

For the record, Harrell IS available and the will likely CONTINUE to be available. Unless he signs with the Las Vegas UFL team, which is the last bit of news I can Google up with his name attached to it. All of that said, you may want to recalculate that error rate. I’m thinking we’re in a dead heat right about now (the funk soul brother).

by coldpizza on Jun 10, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paytons Content?

He was also content with the secondary last year when D’Angelo Hall became available. He said after losing Porter, and Gay to injury last year that he was satisfied with the group we had. I’m starting to wonder about his judgment!

by Derrickwms on Jun 22, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wasn't talking to us

He was sending a message to his team: I’m sticking with you guys…now you have to produce to bail me out. Payton reportedly places a very high value on team chemistry and unity.

Besides which, his judgment was that Gary Gibbs and not his players were at fault. This year we get to see if he’s right.

This is OUR year!

by MtnExile on Jun 22, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like your interpretation of that message

I originally read it as a message to the media ie.) this avenue of discussion is over. Maybe I am cynical or maybe it IS a little of both?

by Norml912 on Jun 24, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

so who has the bigger>?

Dome Patrol meet drew n company, new orleans meet super bowl glory

by SaintCeasar on Jun 19, 2009 2:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

me

hahahahaha

by asaint on Jun 24, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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