2009 Schedule Preview: Week 2 @ the Philadelphia Eagles
The Eagles enter the 2009 season after falling to the Cardinals in the NFC Championship game. Over the last few years Philadelphia has slowly become an NFC rival of sort to the New Orleans Saints, having played once in 2007 and twice - including the playoffs - in 2006; All of which were here in New Orleans. Last seasons Saints schedule was Eagle-free but the birds are back for more in 2009 and to keep the new found tradition alive and well. This time, it's on their turf and it could prove to be the first real challenge for the black and gold. So what have the Eagles been doing in the meantime and what can Saints fans expect from the next meeting of these two teams? That's exactly what we'll take a look at.
Eagles Offense
Donovan McNabb demanded more weapons on offense and threatened the Eagles front office to be more aggressive this off-season and it seems they've listened. At least a little. Not only did the team use their first three draft picks on the offensive side of the ball - WR Jeremy Maclin, RB LeSean McCoy and TE Cornelius Ingram - but they also acquired offensive tackle Jason Peters from Buffalo to help protect McNabb in what was one of the more talked about trades of the off-season. Already the sixth best passing offense in the league last year, thanks to the performance of rookie receiver DeSean Jackson (that's how it's done, Meachem!), the Eagles look to maintain their high-powered aerial attack, despite the loss of tight end L.J. Smith.
Though the Eagles lost backup running back Correll Buckhalter in free agency this year, McCoy was a great pickup and a good value in the second round of the draft. The acquisition of fullback Leonard Weaver also has fans in Philadelphia excited about the depth at running back this season behind Brian Westbrook.
An upgraded Eagles offense could definitely get the better of the Saints defense, particularly the secondary. This might be worrisome.
Eagles Defense
The Eagles pass defense took a bit of a hit this off-season when it lost veteran free safety Brian Dawkins along with strong safety Sean Considine. Alas, the team addressed those needs in the off-season by signing two free agent safeties: Sean Jones and Rashad Baker. Then, of course, there was the inevitable departure of Lito Sheppard (not to the Saints) whom the Eagles replaced by bringing in cornerback Ellis Hobbs. Philadelphia's linebacking corp and defensive line remain strong and pretty much in tact.
The Saints offense was number one in the league last year so I'm allowed to believe they can achieve success against any other teams defense but the Eagles are certainly nothing to laugh at in that department, having been ranked third in the league themselves. Exploiting the new secondary may be the key.
Eagles 2009 Season
9-6-1
Last Meeting
December 23, 2007
| Week 16 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | OT | Final |
| Eagles | 21 | 3 | 7 | 7 | -- | 38 |
| Saints | 14 | 3 | 0 | 6 | -- | 23 |
Why the Saints Can Win
It won't be freezing yet in Philly.
Why the Saints Can Lose
The defense might not be improved enough to stop McNabb and company.
Prediction
Saints 21 - Eagles 20
Newly Acquired
CB Ellis Hobbs
OT Jason Peters
FB Leonard Weaver
S Sean Jones
OT Stacy Andrews
S Rashad Baker
2009 Draft Picks
WR Jeremy Maclin
RB LeSean McCoy
TE Cornelius Ingram
CB/S Victor Harris
OT Fenuki Tupou
WR Brandon Gibson
OLB Moise Fokou
Key Losses
OL Tra Thomas
FS Brian Dawkins
RB Correll Buckhalter
TE L.J. Smith
SS Sean Considine
Linkage
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17 comments
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Comments
Me no likey Eagles (or other birds of prey...I'm talking to you, Falconer!)
I don’t like Andy Reid or Donovan McNabb and have to put up with watching both of them again. Horrible.
This game is a total crap shoot because we have no idea what the Saints have this year on defense…and we really don’t know how explosive the offense will be, either. And wait, we also don’t know what the special teams will look like! We know a lot about the Eagles. Their offseason moves are just plug-and-play type stuff.
I optomistically conclude that the Saints are an amazing new team that knows how to get ahead and hold a lead, while the Eagles are the same team. Saints by 3.
by xen-cuts on Jul 17, 2009 8:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly,
I’m pretty frightened of this matchup. It’ll be a good game to watch, but it almost certainly won’t be a good game for our defense. The Jason Peters trade was a much bigger deal than people made out of it because of his subpar performance last year with the Bills, but his performance declined because he was put on an island in pass protection in obvious passing situations against blitz-happy teams. With an excellent, extraordinarily hard-working offensive coach in Andy Reid, Peters’ ability to protect McNabb’s blind side is going to be maximized.
Meanwhile, you really can’t say enough about the Eagles’ draft; they managed to get three first-round talents with their first three picks, without sacrificing anything:
-Maclin’s extremely raw as a route-runner, but having him run across from DeSean Jackson is going to mean an extremely vertical, wide-open offense-a luxury McNabb has rarely had. The West Coast offense’s effectiveness is predicated on the ability to threaten with the deep ball, and now McNabb has two incredible targets for that (not to mention their lethal bubble screen capability).
-Shady McCoy, meanwhile, was the entire offense for the Pitt Panthers his two starting years, and managed to be extremely productive in both the running and passing games without the benefit of a good offensive line, quarterback, or coach. An extremely elusive, undersized, complete back-remind you of any Eagles RBs?
-Cornelius Ingram, meanwhile, was a draft selection despite not having played in a full season due to injury-a commentary on his incredible talent. Had he played last season, I assure you that Florida’s dominance would not have been so late in coming, and that the Ole Miss loss never would have happened. For all the rave reviews that Ingram’s replacement Aaron Hernandez has rightfully drawn, Ingram is an absolute monster in the passing game, an Antonio Gates who can at least pretend to block.
Ponder this offense: you have two wideouts who can completely stretch the field and command the attention of the corners and safeties, meaning that your linebackers will have to cover either Brian Westbrook, Shady McCoy, or Cornelius Ingram in the passing game, a wild, wild mismatch. You have a strong-armed, accurate quarterback with a quick release to deliver the ball, and while he’s not Kurt Warner in this department, he can read and react to a blitz pretty well. It’s basically the Saints offense from last year, more or less, with a slightly worse quarterback and a vastly more complete offensive line.
Our defense’s success will be completely dependent on our ability to pressure and confuse McNabb (not an impossible task, just ask the Pats circa 2004) without sacrificing too many men in coverage. This is going to be the biggest test for our defense all season, I believe, even if it is predicated on the success of three rookies. Our corners will both be put on islands in coverage, manning up against extremely fast receivers. Porter has proven, or at least shown very promising signs, of being able to do just that. Jenkins (who I believe will have the starter’s job sooner rather than later), has shown me, as I’ve watched more and more film on him, just how wrong I was in my draft preview a long time ago. We’ve got an extremely complete player in this kid, a guy who can cover and tackle equally well, provided he’s allowed to play the ball more than play his man. His ability to break up screens and read run plays will be absolutely critical to our success.
Sharper had better be the savviest veteran who ever savvied when game time comes around, whether he’s coaching on or off the field. He’ll have to be the one to anticipate the Eagles’ favorite routes, and prep his corners for every play. If he guesses wrong, we could be toast. Vilma will also have to play like a man possessed, because he will be incredibly busy in coverage and trying (in vain, I predict) to position his slow outside linebackers to deal with the Eagles’ short-range onslaught. Harper will also have to live up to his billing (manufactured mainly by myself and MtnExile) in shallow zone coverage, covering either Ingram or RBs on short patterns and shutting them down.
The Eagles’ run game will probably be on point as long as they can rely on counters and draws like they usually do, especially if Westbrook’s cutback with zone blocking is as deadly as usual. I’m not as worried about this, because if our Scotts are on the field for any reason, it’s to deal with outside runs. If Harper and Vilma both play a shallow zone, a la the Cover-3, then I trust them both enough to get past the Eagles’ blockers and blow up outside runs—they’re both too fast for that to really have a ton of success, provided they don’t overpursue Westbrook or McCoy.
And our defensive line versus their offensive line? It’s going to be a nightmare. Sedrick Ellis is really our lone hope in this department, because if he can prevent McNabb from stepping up in the pocket, he can probably prevent the deep ball a little bit. Otherwise, I think we’re screwed. I would only trust Will Smith (and I wouldn’t trust him, really) to generate the kind of solo pressure we need against a stud like Peters, and we don’t have him available. Our only pass-rushing threat on the outside, Bobby McCray, isn’t going to beat a double-team, or a single team against Peters. Coleman and Spicer can hopefully do something for us, but I really wouldn’t count on anything but helping occupy blocks against their running game.
As for the Eagles defense, that’s one area where I’m less afraid. Most people would say that Asante Samuel is the Eagles’ best corner, but really it’s Sheldon Brown, one of the most underrated corners in the league. Sheldon doesn’t get a ton of picks, but he also allowed his only touchdown also season in the NFC Championship last year, against Larry Fitzgerald. Brown is really the only DB that should give Brees a lot of trouble. Samuel is deadly as a freelancer, but against a team with unpredictable passing concepts, great pass protection, and a very deadly deep ball, the Eagles could be in trouble if Samuel’s penchant for guessing goes awry. Brian Dawkins was a loss, but he’d always been an Atwater-esque pseudo-linebacker anyways, and hadn’t done much in pass coverage the last few years. Quintin Mikell is an underrated strong safety, and fits Jim Johnson’s unpredictable-blitz scheme very well, but I like the idea of our wideouts (specifically Meachem or Moore) matching up with him.
Their linebacking corps could cause serious problems to our run game, but Reggie should have an excellent day receiving against them or whatever safety is supposed to cover him. Shockey/Miller should also have a very nice day—the Eagles’ linebackers just don’t cover that well unless they’re benefiting from a quarterback’s confusion, and Brees almost certainly won’t get pressured that badly. Meanwhile their D-line, outside of Trent Cole, doesn’t really generate that much pressure by its lonesome; Darren Howard led the team in sacks with 10, but had 1 the previous year despite the same amount of playing time—I’m just fine with our o-line dealing with their d-line.
All in all, I expect that we’re going to avoid a blowout purely because of our offense; we match up extremely nicely against their defense, and should do quite well even if we can’t run. Their offense, on the other hand, is probably going to rip our D a new one unless Gregggggg guesses right every time on his blitzes. If we hold them to fewer than three touchdowns, this will be a tremendous day for our defense, and if we win in decisive fashion (which I don’t think we will) this will be our statement game showing that we won’t lie down against the big bad NFC East.
Saints 38 – Eagles 35
"They held somebody, but they sure didn't hold LaRon Landry."
by Walter FTW on Jul 17, 2009 9:47 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
This is a fantastic analysis...
I hope all those players on the Eagles are overrated. I think our guys are just as talented and can win this thing if they want it bad enough.
by xen-cuts on Jul 17, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for some reason
a lot of that was struck-through. Just ignore that.
"They held somebody, but they sure didn't hold LaRon Landry."
by Walter FTW on Jul 17, 2009 9:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we need a new option
like i’m worried that we might lose this game but think we can pull it out. I think our defense will be on cue for the most part. Everyone, after the first game, will feel a little more comfortable and we’ll get the bugs/kinks out in the game against the Lions. I think our defense will be surprising. I think that we can hold Philly to 20 points or less if we play 3/4 of the way that i’m expecting. Our cornerbacks are much improved from previous years and the safeties should be better with Sharper back there reading the play and breaking up the few times our corners might get beaten long. I see Porter matching up with Jackson because they are both the smaller pair while Jenkins matches up against Maclin. Jenkins and Maclin are both bigger and taller than Porter and Jackson. I like this situation. I think Jenkins has the advantage against Maclin b/c I think Jenkins will be able to push him off of his routes. It is going to be the make/break part of the year for these two cornerbacks i think. 2nd year pro vs 2nd year pro and rookie vs rookie. If they can’t cover these guys, how do we expect them to cover TO and Lee Evans? I hope for the best. Our O vs their D is going to be the same as our O against everyone’s D. We will put up 24 points or more. I say our D starts really clicking and our O seems a little sluggish but we put out the win. 27-17 Saints.
Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D
by skinnykinney on Jul 17, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I mentioned this in a previous comment, but it was lost in the mix
Do former NE DB’s drop off in production after they leave… they certainly seem to (to me) I may be wrong here but if Bill was spying for years it certainly would give all his players a stat bump and give them better trade value. I can only think of one person to do this type of in depth coverage (I will not name him though).
I also agree with a very close game here either way, I think it will be decided by a field goal. Also thank god we are playing them in the beginning of the season. I don’t think our players enjoy freezing weather. Being originally from NY i found that after about 5 years your blood thins out? or you are just so unaccustomed to the cold that it really does effect you more.
by Norml912 on Jul 17, 2009 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This is a tough one
These teams are pretty evenly matched I think. Since the Saints have a way of defying logic at every turn, and they should probably lose a close one to Philly, I’m going with New Orleans, followed by losses to the entire AFC East, except New England.
by FuSoYa on Jul 17, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF??
It seems this post is RIDDLED WITH FEAR? The Eagles will present a challenge- after all- this is their home opener and the Link will be rocking… but do you remember the last game the Eagles lost It was the Cardinals and I don’t think we would be afraid of them. The Eagles are a good team- and a lot of question marks.. but not a team to be afraid. They should be afraid of us…I’ll tell you why.
Oh, and Walter- you had an excellent post with a lot of good info. I just want to add my 2 cents.
- Jim Johnson will not be coaching (if I am not mistaken) In my opinion if you were to pick an NFL MVP for the last
10 years, he would be the guy, bar none. He takes guys that are average or above average, rotates them
in his scheme and gets great results. Without him and my next point, the defense is a big ? They probably
will be good, but not the Eagles dominating defense of some years.
- Brian Dawkins is gone (and Sean Considine as well) Dawkins was the heart and soul of the defense, but
even more- he took Johnson’s scheme, put it into action, got EVERYONE else to buy into it- and it would
never have worked- that Jim Johnson risky and aggressive game plan (that I love) without everyone
buying into it all through training camp, thru tough times, thru media scrutiny, etc. Dawkins has lost
a step in deep coverage, but gained a step in knowing where to go on every play except deep and has
helped their mediocre linebacking core in a huge way.
- The linebacking core is mediocre- if they didn’t play for Johnson with Brian Dawkins and Considine behind
them, no one would have ever heard of them. They will be exsposed.
- Defensive pass rush…without JJ’s scheme, they are below average. With the scheme they are above average.
The key is no early sacks, keep the fans quiet and a combination of good pass protection and quick
release/reads by Drew- who does this better than Drew?
- Eagles receivers. Well the Eagles fans think they have a legitimate receiving corps and I don’t agree
yet. I may change my tune some day, but right now, in my opinion, unless DeSean Jackson and Jeremy
Macklin have outstanding early seasons (see below), they could struggle there. I am not convinced De
Sean Jackson is a real #1 NFL receiver but time will tell. Remember, with the Eagles, aside from TO,
there have been numerous #1 imposters for a decade such as Freddie, James Thrash, Kevin Curtis,
LJ Smith, Reggie Brown, and a few others I can’t remember and this has been their achilles heal.
Mc Nabb is good,
but he is no Drew Brees. He does not pick a defense apart consistently for a half or a whole game, he
makes his living off of escaping sacks, breaking tackles and making improvised plays. I see De Sean
and Macklin having a little hesitation on that, even though I will concede that they look like they could
respectable deep threats. I think their problem will be running the tough short routes and going over
middle- they have to be hammered early and hard.
- The fans love Mc Nabb… no wait… they hate him…..no wait… what day is it?? What did Mc Nabb do or
say yesterday? When Mc Nabb throws a few passes into the turf like he always does, they will boo.
The fans either hate Mc Nabb or..well… they actually never love him. The most accurate way I can
describe it is they are tired of him. There is constant chatter and screaming for Kevin Kolb and I don’t
have any idea why. There is no indication he will take the Eagles anywhere, but the fans have grown
tired of Mc Nabb constantly falling short. They can play a big role here.
- We can run on the Eagles. Most teams don’t realize it, but you can run on the Eagles. They do some run blitzes
and some other things to make it appear early on you can’t run on them, but the patient teams can and that is one reason the Giants can move the ball vs. Eagles. Reggie and power running by other backs will
be key- we will need to soften them up with running plays and short passes to Reggie, Jeremy, and
Colston, and then Henderson and Meachem can strike long. I really don’t see that as being a problem
unless we try to do it too early. We have to establish the run.
- The Eagles running game could go either way as Westbrook may not be 100%, he is getting older, and
Mc Coy is inexperienced. Andy Reid abandons the running game even faster than Payton, but this element
is critical. The Eagles have a revamped O- Line and I personally think Runyon will be difficult to replace.
I think our guys can stop the run, but it will depend on people like Sed, Spicer, etc as well as (hopefully)
Pressley. Remember, we don’t need those guys to make tackles, we have a stong LB core and good run
support at safety.
Well, I hope this can help calm some of the fear, we should be afraid of nobody this year. We won’t go 16-0,
but we should not fear anyone. Other teams should fear that they meay never get their offense on the field.
by Philinwood on Jul 19, 2009 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Other teams should fear that they may never get their offense on the field."
Talk about baseless fears.
by coldpizza on Jul 19, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to take issue with several of the points in this analysis
As much as I appreciate the effort you put into this, you really dropped the ball on a couple of key items.
The linebacking core is mediocre- if they didn’t play for Johnson with Brian Dawkins and Considine behind them, no one would have ever heard of them. They will be exsposed.
Yes, our OLBs are questionable, but Stewart Bradley is quickly turning into a real playmaker. I’m not going to outright say that he has the potential to be the next Urlacher, but I’ll hint at it.
Also, even more importantly, Sean Considine started a total of 0 games last year. Quentin Mikell is the Eagles starting SS last year and was an absolute stud. No, he didn’t make the Pro Bowl, but if you watch the film you’ll see he was the key playmaker on dozens of crucial defensive stops last year. In summation, to say that Considine is any kind of a loss for the Eagles is simply silly.
Defensive pass rush…without JJ’s scheme, they are below average. With the scheme they are above average.
Sean McDermott, JJ’s temporary successor, has been an assistant defensive coach for the Eagles since JJ was hired 10 years ago. Just because Johnson can’t coach does NOT mean that the scheme is going away. The Johnson scheme has worked extremely well for the Giants since Steve Spagnuolo brought it there after being hired away from the Eagles.
I don’t pretend to know how the defense will be effected by JJ’s absence, but I DO know that the scheme does work outside of his presence and trust McDermott to adequately run it.
Most teams don’t realize it, but you can run on the Eagles.
So stopping Brandon Jacobs in the playoffs twice in a row on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 during the fourth quarter doesn’t count, eh? Look at the numbers, we were 4th in the league in rushing yards allowed at 92.2 rushing yards per game. Nobody on the defensive line has left. None of the LBs have left. You have no argument to make here.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
by IronHank on Jul 21, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was exaggerating
but what I meant is that this year’s offense just may be capable of doing everything that last year’s offense did and then go a step further by winning the possession game-that is sustaining drives and tiring out defenses better than they did last year. That might make other teams very concerned that they have to methodically move the ball downfield as opposed to quick strikes in an effort to keep their defense off the field. That kind of approach could really help us.
by Philinwood on Jul 19, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HI LARIOUS
You all have got to be kidding me!
The Saints are going to put up 38 points against the Eagles??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Let me tell you what’s going to happen: The Ain’ts are going to come into the Link and be reminded of why (superbowl win or not) the Eagles are the NFC team of the decade. They are going to get sacked, picked, stripped, and Sheldon-Brown-On-Reggie-Bush JACKED UP for about 60 minutes. Meanwhile, the Eagles are going to score, score, score, score, score, score, score -by air and by ground, and you all are going to be reminded of why you spend most of the season WISHING you lived in PHILADELPHIA.
MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
by davemayhem on Jul 20, 2009 7:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we just got some bulletin board material
"Knock 'em the (- -) out!" - G Dub
by HansDat on Jul 20, 2009 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Springer bouncers
prepare to hold me back, cuz thems was fighting words.
by coldpizza on Jul 20, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing
could make me wish I lived in Philadelphia.
by FuSoYa on Jul 20, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how are they the nfc team of the decade?
i’d put NY and Dallas ahead of you. Dallas was pretty consistent of making the playoffs every year even though they lost the 1st one everytime, they still had a shot at going all the way. NY has won a superbowl and been pretty good the past few years. I’d put Chicago and GB, possibly, ahead of you guys also. And you know that the Saints are a given. Sorry getting to the Superbowl and losing it 3 out of 4 times makes you look like you can’t finish your season.
Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D
by skinnykinney on Jul 23, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs






















