Saints @ Texans: Practice Update
MalcolmJenkins Time to get after it
wwltvsports They say everything is bigger in Texas. Reliant Park absolutely fits that description. This area is enormous.
jeffduncantp Just arrived at Reliant Park. Big crowd already gathered. WhoDats out in full force but definitely outnumbered.
jeffduncantp Bad news: Just found out no tweeting allowed. Updates will wait til post-practice
DougTatum Our plans to have @jeffduncantp and @bawtp twitter updates from Saints-Texans practice foiled by Texans' anti-Twitter policy. we will still
wwltvsports Carney 4-for-6 from 38. Hartley 6-6
wwltvsports Offense looking good vd texans d
jeffduncantp Snuck outside for a quick update. Drew Brees not here until afternoon prax. Grant, Strief, B. Miller and D. Dinkins on bikes, not working.
jeffduncantp O K, just back in Reliant media room. Tale of 2 workouts: Saints offense looked good sans Brees. Run game shined. Bushing hitting hole hard.
bawtp I'll have 2 look @ the film but gregg williams can't be happy with the a.m. Practice!
jeffduncantp Will file a column 2mrow for the T-P on Bush and his offseason emphasis on hitting the hole. He had some compelling stuff to say about it.
jeffduncantp Shockey had two nice catches in team drills. One almost identical to his 1st catch vs. Cincy down the left sideline. Looked like same play.
jeffduncantp Houston media still frothing over Williams/Bush storyline. Pete Prisco (CBS Sports), Len Pasquarelli & Paul Kuharsky of ESPN in attendance.
wwltvsports Prac Rep: Watched only the offense this morning. Pass offense shined brightly; Run offense was pedestrian. Couldn't tell too much.....
wwltvsports ...as there was no full contact. Bush had nice runs; Hamilton had a good run. Shockey/Moore stood out for catching everything.
bawtp As good as Marques Colston and Andre Johnson are, the thing I like most about them is that they are consummate pros. No "I'' in either guy
wwltvsports One more thing: No new news on Derrick Brooks.
bawtp No fights, not even a cross eye between the Texans and Saints at the a.m. practice. BORING! Look for things to heat up in the p.m.
bawtp Charles Grant: My read! By the time he returns from a bad ham, they'll rotate him out of the No. 1 defense because of pending suspension.
JeremyShockey the team got some good work v.s the texans... It was good to see all the ex hurricanes...
jeffduncantp One leftover from a.m. workout: Jahri Evans dominated Amobi Okoye in 1-on-1 pass-rush drills. Okoye is a former UofL Card so that hurt a lil
jeffduncantp Mario Williams whipped Jammal Brown in their first 1-on-1 pass-rush drill but Brown fanned him wide & handled him on the next rep.
jeffduncantp DC Gregg Williams spent 10 years in Houston. Lots of local media here concentrating on him and son Blake, an offensive asst. for stories
jeffduncantp Non-FB note: U can have Houston. Strip-mall hell. Concrete jungle. HIghway gridlock. I'm sure there are nice areas but so far not impressed.
jeffduncantp On the positive side: Reliant Park is first-class. Bob McNair and company know how to build a football facility.
jeffduncantp Headed back out for p.m. prax. Will try to watch Saints D vs. Texans O & sneak in some tweets wthen the Texans p.r. staff isn't looking.
jeffduncantp No Brees sighting at afternoon workout. Stay tuned.
jeffduncantp R. Coleman joins C.Grant, B.Miller and D.Dinkins on bike duty for afternoon prax. Could be a senior citizens discount from work.
jeffduncantp Prax moved inside bubble because of threatening weather
jeffduncantp Texans indoor facility is one of those inflatable bubble. I feel like inside the belly of Moby Dick
jeffduncantp Malcolm Jenkins with the play of the day in team drills. Pick of Schaub in left flat and 70-yard return for TD.
jeffduncantp Fred Bennett picks off Joey Harrington deep ball intended for Meachem. Bad overthrow.
jeffduncantp Brunell to Ortega for 25-yard TD to end 2s-vs.-2s. Fujita just picked deflected ball from Schaub in 1s vs. 1s.
wwltvsports Ortega, Fujita make nice plays in 2minute drill; Shockey mad he didn't get the ball from Harrington
jeffduncantp Think we can make it official: Jenkins is this team's starting nickel. Randall Gay working with the second team, Jenkins the 1s
bawtp Mark brunell looks good this pm
bawtp On the flip side harrington doesn't
wwltvsports Brees is expected back with the team tonight, Payton said. Otherwise, Brunell looked decent and Harrington was, well, Harrington.
bawtp The pmer just ended ... Not 1 fight! I'd have lost my house betting on that 1
wwltvsports More practice tidbits: TE B Ortega made a beautiful TD catch. CB M Jenking, LB S Fujita make tremendous INTs. Def a little feistier in PM.
bawtp Malcolm jenkins now playing with first nickel package
wwltvsports Jenkins solidifies himself as No. 1 nickelback with 70-yard INT return, by the way. Nice play to grab ball high in air and take it to EZ.
Linkage
New Orleans Saints offense shines, but defense struggles in workouts versus Houston Texans - Times-Pic
"I feel great about how we ran the ball," Thomas said. "I believe the offensive line did a great job of pushing those guys back. They got to the linebackers very quickly and the backs hit the holes very hard."
"I thought it was pretty good," Payton said, emphasizing that the primary running drills came in 9-on-7 drills which feature the lines and front seven of the defense. "Both sides did a good job. We tired to keep it pretty basic with the runs we were running."
-Sean Payton
Video: Jim in Texas: Thoughts on Saints workout with Houston - WWL
Saints and Texans Take to Practice Fields - New Orleans Saints official website
Deke: Saints counting on Roby to make plays! - WWL
"I just try and go out there and help wherever possible. I take pride in special teams, but I also take pride at receiver, which is my natural position. But I'll do whatever is asked of me and do so with the best of my ability,"
"I am going to work as hard as I can and try to make things happen."
-Courtney Roby
"Speed is an attribute that was God given to me and I try and use it to my advantage. I worked out and trained hard in the off season and I know that I have to keep getting better,"
-Courtney Roby
"We have an attitude that we must get better. Everyone has a role and we want to make sure that we are doing everything we can to get better."
-Courtney Roby
Chifici: Skyler Green hoping for 16 games of work this season - WWL
"The most important thing, it's a job interview for all 32 teams every time you get an opportunity to get out there on the football field. Each and every time you get out there, you've got to do your best," Green told me. "You have to go out and impress the coaches to let them know that 'I want to be that guy. I want to be that guy to perform for this team to be the playmaker for this football team.' "
"Don't think about the past. Just keep building on, if you make mistakes keep correcting. And I think that's the key to this football game."
-Skyler Green
"Most definitely. I've worked very hard as a pass receiver. I mean that's what I do. I've come here to play receiver. They brought me here to catch the ball so you know you try your best not to let a ball hit the ground and that's your job so you want to hold on to that pigskin as much as you can,"
-Skyler Green
"It's friendly competition. You go out there, you compete everyday. You know it's the nature of this business, so you can't let the nature of this business interfere with friendship." Green explained. "I think, you know, me and Courtney, we're buddies, we're friends and I wish him the best just as well as he wishes me the best on making this team... we're definitely gonna make it tough on the coaches to make that decision."
-Skyler Green
"My goals are to focus in and hone in on the things that I need to do to make plays, put myself in position, to pretty much set myself up on making this team. And my focus is to go out there and just have fun".
-Skyler Green
Training Camp, Day 21: Passing attack flies high vs Texans, Run game gets a B - WWL
Deke: Saints/Texans practice #1 - WWL
Offsides with Fletcher Mackel - WDSU
In my opinion…I believe it’s possible that Jenkins plays a lot at safety with Darren Sharper. I can’t stop envisioning a defensive secondary of Sharper, Jenkins, Porter and Greer.
Video
| Jeff Duncan's New Orleans Saints training camp video log, Day 21, (Aug. 19, 2009) |
Reggie Bush Press Conference Transcript
From the New Orleans Saints official website
Q: How did practice go for you today?
A: It went pretty good. It was a good first day for us. I felt comfortable out there. I felt like it hit the holes when I saw them and made some progress today.
Q: Do you dread the dual practices with the Texans due to the inevitable comparison's with Mario Williams?
A: No, I don't think we should shy away from work. Anytime you have an opportunity to come out here and practice with another team, I think it's only going to help you get better. I don't think we should shy away from work and I don't think anybody on our team does. We embrace it, welcome it and use it to our advantage.
Q: Are you tired of the comparisons?
A: No, that's part of the territory. It comes along with it. It doesn't affect me at all.
Q: Have you had any time over the past few years to chat with Mario?
A: We've done events together. We've seen each other. We talked today inside. He's a great guy. There's no tension between us. I think that's for the fans and the media. In all honesty, I think it makes for a better story. I think all it does is bring more attention to the game and that's what we want to do, bring attention to the Houston Texans and the New Orleans Saints.
Q: What did you get out of these workouts today going against another colored jersey?
A: For us it's an opportunity for us to go against a different team and see where we stand and how they practice and where we stand. I don't want to say we practiced better than them or we practiced better than us, but I think all in all, it was a great day for Houston and us. I know for sure the Saints got better.
Q: Can you talk about the changes in the Saints organization the last few years?
A: Historically the Saints haven't been the greatest organization, but I can assure you that times are changing. Drew Brees, Will Smith, Charles Grant, Marques Colston, Pierre Thomas, guys like them and us, we're going to change this organization. We're changing it, the mentality of this organization, the team and we're going to turn it into a winning program.
Q: Is the key for you staying healthy?
A: Yes, if I'm healthy or 100 percent during the season than I should be able to do what I expect to.
Q: How much do you want to get rid of the third down back label?
A: It's another thing that comes with the territory. All I can do is what I can control. I can't control what people say. I can only do what I do on the field. Obviously people are saying that for a reason. I haven't been the most productive over the three years I've been injured. With injury, when you're not on the field, you're going to miss production. I understand where it comes from, I hear it and I use it as motivation.
Q: Pierre Thomas said you've hit the hole like never before. Is that something that you've really worked on?
A: I'm really working on just being explosive and hitting holes. I think over the last two years I haven't done that. The first step to recognizing when you have a bad habit is admitting it to yourself. It's like an alcoholic when they go into the AA meeting. The first step is recognizing and getting better from there on out.
Q: What do you remember about the regular season game you played here?
A: I remember it was a bad game for me. I wasn't real productive. I was injured in that game. It was an all around bad day for the Saints. Those are the steps, using that to our advantage and my advantage as a learning experience and getting better.
Q: Has the performance of the defense as opposed to that of your offense the last two years been frustrating?
A: I can't put all the blame on the defense, because this is a team first and we can't point fingers, but obviously the numbers don't lie. We have struggled a little bit on defense. I'm very excited about what our defense will do this year with Gregg Williams. So far, he has brought a physical mentality to our defense that is aggressive; they're stripping the ball all the time. I think if you saw the first preseason game we had two turnovers which were huge for us. I don't think I've seen that since I've been here. I think that's reassuring for us and as a team we have to get better. We can't just focus on the defense. We have to play as a team.
Q: What do you think of the comparisons with Mario Williams and Vince Young?
A: I think it makes for a better story. I think it's great for two young guys early in their career who are striving to be the best in their position. We'll see how wins, may the best man win.
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Insert lewd Kim Kardasian joke here
Will file a column 2mrow for the T-P on Bush and his offseason emphasis on hitting the hole. He had some compelling stuff to say about it.
On second thought, don’t. Let’s keep it family-oriented around here please. :)
"He has got a good ol' boy sense of humor, but he has also got a good ol' boy sense of kick you in the ass, too,"--Gregg Williams describing Bill Johnson. The D WILL ROCK THIS YEAR!
by satchmo26 on Aug 19, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one getting nervous about Carney?
I’m getting damn nervous…
Who IS the Stig?
by Hollywoo! on Aug 19, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
Carney is just in as a stop-gap for the suspension. If he stays on afterward it will be more as a mentor/leadership role sort of thing. Hartley will more than likely be fine once he shakes the offseason rust and distractions of the suspension off. He missed a few in practice but his consistency seems to be coming back. Carney will be fine as long as they can get him within 40 yds on FGs for the 4 game suspension.
by BayouRebel on Aug 19, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll get more consistent
After some consistent team practice, he’ll come around. Hartley was having some trouble adjusting to the snap/hold personnel and Carney may still be adjusting too.
"He has got a good ol' boy sense of humor, but he has also got a good ol' boy sense of kick you in the ass, too,"--Gregg Williams describing Bill Johnson. The D WILL ROCK THIS YEAR!
by satchmo26 on Aug 19, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nervous as hell
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by Saintsational on Aug 19, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Carney keeps this up
somebody will slip him some Adorall
Being a Saints fan will take years off your life
by MobileSaint on Aug 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn’t need any aphrodisiacs, thank you very much. He might need to calm down with some Adderall though.
by FriarBob on Aug 20, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Carney doesn't cut it in the preseason
they may look to go after the loser of the Mike Nugent / Matt Bryant battle in Tampa Bay. From all I’ve gathered, those two have been neck-in-neck throughout training camp and they’re both fairly reliable kickers. Even if it’s only until Hartley comes back, there will be other options out there.
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
by coldpizza on Aug 19, 2009 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rayner / Suisham
(Redskins) is another tight kicker race that may bear watching.
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
by coldpizza on Aug 19, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not the kicker
It’s Joey The Holder.
WE BE GRINDIN' ALL NIGHT LONG
by stujo4 on Aug 19, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
“wwltvsports Carney 4-for-6 from 38. Hartley 6-6”
Who was holding for Hartley?
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
by coldpizza on Aug 19, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may very well
be a combination of the two. Harrington and Hartley have been working together all summer. Carney probably just needs to get his timing down. Fortunately, they still have three weeks to do just that, before the kicks mean anything. I’m still leery of Carney’s leg strength, though. It’s the whole reason we let him go in the first place. Too bad the punter situation isn’t officially settled. Otherwise, Morestead could start working as the placeholder and we wouldn’t necessarily have to keep Harrington active every week just for that purpose.
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
by coldpizza on Aug 19, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morstead could still practice
Even if they aren’t decided yet on which punter they’ll keep (I think they are, though), Morstead could still practice at placeholder. Maybe they’re afraid the kid will get nervous and not be reliable. Who knows? Payton probably just decided during the offseason that he wants a QB holding from now on so he’ll have an effective passer back there in case he wants to fake it. The way his mind works, I’ll bet that’s why he’s now so keen on using a QB there. They still have almost a month to get this ironed out and efficient, so I’m not worried at this point.
As for Carney, the guy’s body just doesn’t respond the way it once did. He just needs a little more time to get his accuracy locked in. It’ll be there by week 1. I doubt he’s lost that much since his Pro Bowl season last year.
"He has got a good ol' boy sense of humor, but he has also got a good ol' boy sense of kick you in the ass, too,"--Gregg Williams describing Bill Johnson. The D WILL ROCK THIS YEAR!
by satchmo26 on Aug 19, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really seems like they’re wasting a spot somewhere by not giving Morstead the job outright and letting him learn to hold, or for keeping Harrington on for that purpose. That’s oversimplified, and they have the room now, but the eventual roster will not have practiced together as much as they could. Plus, there are other players out there(cough) that could hold a spot on the team, maybe even contribute come September.
The Carney thing doesn’t scare me. You know what you’re getting with him, good and bad. But no question marks. 100%<35 yards, 70% from 35 to 50 yards, kickoffs to the 10. He can certainly hold down the fort until Hartley finishes cramming for finals.
Best info of the day: Jenkins passes Gay on the depth chart! He may be mediocre as a rookie, but at least he hasn’t proven that yet. Feels like they’re finally putting their best foot forward with the db’s.
by FuSoYa on Aug 19, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah . . .
But he’s only 99.99% on extra points, and 0% on extra points after season-saving miracle plays.
by Monkey Poop Battle on Aug 20, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was the perfect end to that play for the Saints.
And we were out of the playoffs, win or no. It was just the story of the Saints’ franchise condensed into one play.
by FuSoYa on Aug 20, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So many people
fail to realize that. The season ended about five minutes prior to that TD, when Dallas knocked off the Giants to clinch the final wildcard berth. The Saints players weren’t aware of it at the time, but all that lateraling meant nothing.
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
by coldpizza on Aug 20, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still, it was a memorable play and all that. Wish I’d seen it. Anybody got a link to youtube or whatever?
by FriarBob on Aug 20, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTGco82JKHo
Keep an eye out for Aaron Brooks’s exceptional downfield block on the play, something else that is rarely mentioned.
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
by coldpizza on Aug 20, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what i was thinking
he was keeping joey for a trick play. other teams will probably know that too so it might relax the pressure we get in the kicking game if they’re afraid we might fake it.
Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D
by skinnykinney on Aug 20, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joey the holder?
I think its a damn good plan myself.
Fake punt with a QB is a whole hell of a better deal then fake punt with a… ummm whos holding?
As for the misses being Joey’s fault… who went 6 – 6?
Give the old man some time.. he will get used to a new holder and will settle down.
MT
by MT_always on Aug 20, 2009 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just noticed your grindin signature line, stu - ha!
"I like our back end." -- Mickey Loomis, to Solomon Wilcots and Tim Brando during a press box interview in the 4th Quarter of the Saints-Bengals preseason game.
by HansDat on Aug 20, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might start callin' you Ground Stu
Can you get me some o’ that at the deli counter?
"I like our back end." -- Mickey Loomis, to Solomon Wilcots and Tim Brando during a press box interview in the 4th Quarter of the Saints-Bengals preseason game.
by HansDat on Aug 20, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FRESHLY ground stu
She said, "You're strange, but don't change", and I let her.
by stujo4 on Aug 20, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Without Brees...
We sound like we had a nice battle. With Brees we can be 10x better. The media has this team as the “surprise” team to do well. Hopefully we can have them jump on the bandwagon after this week is over!
by Lostastic on Aug 19, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Harrington and Eli have something in common
Shockey mad he didn’t get the ball from Harrington
Already?
Just get the D going!
by FrenchFreak on Aug 19, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hopefully we won't have to worry about that happening again.
by xen-cuts on Aug 20, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't be serious....
Just get the D going!
by FrenchFreak on Aug 20, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nervous about Carney!?
Why isn’t anyone nervous about Harrington?
Brunell has looked good this preseason. So why is there so much sentiment for Joey making the team, Joey being the holder, etc.
“Mark brunell looks good this pm…On the flip side harrington doesn’t” — bawtp
“Brunell looked decent and Harrington was, well, Harrington.” — wwltvsports
“Fred Bennett picks off Joey Harrington deep ball intended for Meachem. Bad overthrow.” — jeffduncantp
“Ortega, Fujita make nice plays in 2minute drill; Shockey mad he didn’t get the ball from Harrington” — wwltvsports
Maybe Shockey knows something we don’t…like he was open and Harrington made the wrong read.
I’m starting to get nervous that Payton may be emotionally committed to his latest quarterback reclamation project, and may decide that Harrington is more valuable than Brunell because he can also hold for kicks. If that’s the case, and Joey vaults into the #2 spot, then God help us if Brees goes down…because Joey won’t.
"Man, these fans are off the charts."
--Drew Brees
by MtnExile on Aug 20, 2009 9:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine with either
Brunell or Harrington as the backup. As in, a choice between the two. I would much rather upgrade the position entirely with a younger player with more upside. If that’s not in the cards, I can’t honestly say that I’ve been any more impressed with one over the other so far, so whichever direction Payton wants to go is ok by me.
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
by coldpizza on Aug 20, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd be surprised
if harrington gets the #2 spot. He’s Payton’s pet project but I think that Loomis or someone will tell him that Brunell has far outplayed Harrington so far. Might even be Brees lol. You know he wants to win no matter what.
Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D
by skinnykinney on Aug 20, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keeping both qb's until week one is okay, but
Let Pakulak go. He’s a serviceable punter, and could have found his way onto another team maybe. He might even be better than Morstead, but it doesn’t matter with the draft value Morstead is carrying. Morstead should be holding the place kicks now, especially with Carney coming in cold. Get them on the same page together. Then give Pakulak’s spot to an OLB for the duration of preseason. Or maybe an OT, now that Brown has problems.
by FuSoYa on Aug 20, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
If Carney has to become acclimated to a new holder either way, why not go with the guy who gives you the most roster flexibility?
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
by coldpizza on Aug 20, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if they are sure they are keeping Harrington, then they already are.
by FriarBob on Aug 20, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
because 3rd string QBs are typically one of the five inactive players on Sundays. At least, that’s the way it’s been the majority of the time Payton has been coach. The thing is, in order to be the emergency (3rd string QB), you’re not allowed to participate in any other capacity, UNLESS you’re officially listed at a position OTHER than QB. Silly, but that’s the loophole. So, basically if Harrington is listed as a QB (he will be) and is the holder, he HAS to be the backup QB. Meaning Brunell would either have to be inactive (likely), strictly relegated to 3rd string, listed at another position (no point to that) or released. Regardless, making Morestead (or anyone other non-quarterback) the holder gives you the most roster flexibility. They were faced with a similiar dilemma under Haslett when Bouman held, only Bouman was the clear-cut #2. Had McPherson beat Bouman out for the backup gig, the situations would be identical (assuming Brunell beats out Harrington).
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
by coldpizza on Aug 20, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
you just made me want Morstead to hold the kicks now. Don’t want Harrington as our #2
Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D
by skinnykinney on Aug 20, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they’re sure they’re keeping Harrington as the primary backup, then you’re correct, it doesn’t really matter.
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
by coldpizza on Aug 20, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of backup QBs
anyone think we should go after Tavaris Jackson or Luke McCown, if and when they’re released? I would personally rather either over Brunell or Harrington.
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
by coldpizza on Aug 20, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Jackson's going anywhere
I don’t think Minnesota would go to 2 qb’s with Favre there. He’ll just have to wait until next offseason to announce his desire to be traded or released. McCown would be nice, but do you really think he’s ready to give up on the prospect of starting somewhere? I’d like to dig up Koi Detmer(sp?). He was a good backup, if a tiny fellow, and I bet he’s as cheap as they come. Plus he’s got that Grammatica family crazy chihuahua look that I find appealing in football players.
by FuSoYa on Aug 20, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Not sure on McCown. I’ve always liked Josh more, but Luke had a great game against the Saints a couple years back, after Chris Simms’s spleen decided to go on vacation. I liked Detmer, too. I remember that MNF game he started, maybe 2002 or so. They had a feature piece on how he bought all his clothes at Target … an entire outfit for under $100. That’s exactly what you look for in a backup QB, imo. Ingenuity, thriftiness … chihuahua looks … a functioning spleen … check, check, checkity check. All system’s a-go, captain.
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
by coldpizza on Aug 21, 2009 5:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forget that they also have John David Booty there, and that Jackson has had now two shots at the starter’s position and flopped both times. I’m pretty sure Minnysoso is out of patience with him. So I think he’ll be available later on.
Of course, two big questions remain. 1) Was the problem him or the lack of playmakers around him? and 2) Even if he was the problem, can Payton “rehab” him into a decent QB after all or not.
by FriarBob on Aug 21, 2009 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Booty AND Rosenfels. I think Jackson’s an exceptional talent with a load of potential, who needs to work on his passing accuracy. He makes all the right reads, he’s just off the mark at times. That’s something that can be easily corrected, especially under Brees’s tutelage.
"You'll have sloppy balls. You have to find a way to get a grip on it." -Drew Brees
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