New Orleans Saints 45 @ Oakland Raiders 7: Post-Game Wrap Up
I'd like to start this whole post with a message to Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis, Greg Bensel and whoever else needs to hear this: In-N-Out burgers every week for this team. Make it happen. I don't know what the hell they put in those things but the Saints played like men on fire.
There is nothing I can really say following the game that any casual observer couldn't figure out for themselves. This game was complete domination from play one. On offense, the Saints put up great numbers on the ground - without Reggie or Pierre - and in the air. They continue to be the highest scoring team in the league this pre-season. On defense, they continued their ball-stripping philosophy and created game changing turnovers to put the game out of reach early. Even special teams looked solid.
With each passing pre-season game my optimism grows and grows. How can it not? It's not the simple fact that the Saints are winning; it's how they're winning. But before we start purchasing Super Bowl tickets, let's all remember that this was the Raiders on the other side of the ball. They are not a measuring stick by which to predict an entire season. Still, a win is a win is a win and we should expect the Saints to dominate against struggling teams, not play down to their level. Right now, I couldn't be more proud of my team. They deserve those 400 In-N-Out hamburgers.
Make the jump for the rest of my notes. Then talk about the game.
- We should all be hoping that Usama Young's injury isn't serious. He injured it making a nice leaping grab for the ball and nearly had the interception.
- The run blocking looked good. The Raiders aren't known for their run defense so that may have had something to do with it.
- The Saints shut down the Raiders running game, probably the strongest aspect of their offense. That's a good sign for those worried about the defense giving up too much yardage on the ground.
- The first quarter of the game was the Drew Brees Show. Brees used his receivers to carve up Oaklands defense. Drew was so good, in fact, that instead of playing three quarters as planned, Payton pulled him in the middle of the second.
- Randall Gay got a very good jump on the ball and nearly had an interception on that second quarter play. I still can't decide whether I like him as a player or not.
- Very nice to see my boy Lance Moore back catching balls for Drew. He does a great job of getting his body in position and it often causes interference penalties.
- Lynell Hamilton looked good today in his bid for redemption and a spot on the roster. I have no idea what the Saints will do in terms of keeping running backs but Hamilton is back in the mix after his two-fumble performance against Cincinnati.
- The biggest negative of the day was probably the fit of penalties the Saints offense suffered deep in the Red Stripe red zone during the second quarter. Michael Brown was flagged for two illegal formation penalties after a Jamar Nesbit holding call.
- I will admit that I was a late arrival to the Robert Meachem party and I never really saw anything special in him. Until today that is. Meachem's catch and run proved how good he can be and showed that extra gear he has that most other players just don't have.
- Have I told you guys how much I like Pierson Prioleau? Let me tell you again: Prioleau is a huge addition to this secondary. He is everything Gregg Williams stands for.
- Not much from Malcolm Jenkins today.
- Troy Evans looked great and made a couple of nice hits.
- The play at 11:09 in the third quarter is a perfect representation of what I think we can expect from the Saints defense in 2009. They gave up a big chunk of yardage when JaMarcus Russell completed a nice 38-yard pass to Martin but Prioleau was able to pop the ball loose before making the tackle while a quick-thinking Chris Reis picked it up and ran with it. The Saints may very well give up significant yardage playing their aggressive style of defense, but being aggressive also pays dividends in the forced turnovers department.
- Rod Harper garnered a little bit of attention again. He looked like a Reggie Bush clone on the one punt return and made a few catches in the second half. Harper isn't perfect but he continues to make plays. I think he's got a good shot at making the team, possibly even over Arrington. Where was Adrian today anyway?
- Courtney Roby looked very good on special teams this afternoon.
- Only slightly better in the pass rushing department. I would have liked to have seen more, especially with a quarterback like JaMarcus Russell who has a tendency to hold on to the ball too long. Bobby McCray and Anthony Hargrove stood out the most.
- Hartley looked much improved on kickoffs, getting the ball deep in the end zone a couple of times. Must have been a strong breeze from the bay.
- By the end of the game it was obvious that the will of the Raiders had been completely shattered. Sad really.
- P.J. Hill looked great in the second half. Again, the Raiders aren't the best against the run and the Raiders had all but given up so take it with a grain of salt.

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in n out burger
is really, really good. really good.
with all the in-n-out talk this week
i had to get one before the start of the game… maybe dangling food after a game is the key for the saints
with regards to the game…
i love how we took the ball away from their offense… we still need to improve some of our pass coverage and tackling but they looked good today.
penalties have been an issue in every single game so far.. i REALLY REALLY hope this gets cleaned up before our last game
I've only had an In-n-Out burger once in my life
…and I never would have predicted anything good could have come of them. Maybe they could open up a franchise on Poydras?
"Man, these fans are off the charts." --Drew Brees
Injuries
I’m glad SP has said that Usama’s injury is just a bruise/strain. He’ll be needed for depth this year. I haven’t been this excited about the defense since it included The Field Mouse & Meat patrolling the middle and Swilling & Ricky attacking the edges. Dome Patrol “the Sequel” ?
by WhoDat_OH on Aug 29, 2009 7:17 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Arrington hurt again ?
Looks like he’ll lose that roster spot. Too many young, determined versatile receivers fighting. Oh yeah, and they’re healthy !
by WhoDat_OH on Aug 29, 2009 8:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
New Name for the Defense
Hurricane Greg’s Cat 5. Nothing but chaos.
by NOSFan4Life on Aug 29, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Saints so far this preseason:
Points Scored: 100
Points Allowed: 28
by TheBobLoblawBlog on Aug 29, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions
From Yahoo Sports
“Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints offense looked to be in midseason form. Unfortunately for the fans in Oakland, the Raiders appear to be as well.”
by TheBobLoblawBlog on Aug 29, 2009 7:52 PM CDT reply actions
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap;_ylt=AuBwK6Eyfd1ixUnplyx2geMdsLYF?gid=20090829013&prov=ap
Who knew the Associated Press had a sense of humor?
by TheBobLoblawBlog on Aug 29, 2009 7:54 PM CDT reply actions
how about those broadcaster's?
I cant believe they make more money than me.
Besmirching the reverence of the sport of customer service since Aug 26, 2009
I was just about to mention that
That was the most depressing play-by-play I’ve ever heard. But if I was a Raiders fan I’d probably be depressed too.
“Drew Brees over the middle…. sigh….touchdown Lance Moore.”
That Good or That Bad?
I’d love to say that the Saints are as good as the score indicates. But that would be stretching it. I think they’ll be a good, possibly very good, NFL team in 2009. But don’t let today warp your judgement. The Raiders are just that bad. They’re a dysfunctional mess, led from the very top by incompetents.
Being an LSU fan, I’d like to see Jamarcus Russell do well, but he doesn’t have a prayer in Oakland. Did you see the dropped passes? This is a disgustingly bad NFL team, and the most we can take away is that we got through a scrimmage against 3rd stringers without getting anyone seriously hurt.
Maybe there’s another positive. This defense looks like they’re serious about being aggressive, which is a radical change from 2008. You can see the intensity, and get the impression that they’re there to deal out some hits. That’s a 180 degree change and Saints fans should enjoy it. We’ll see them get burned sometimes, but the turnover ratio looks to go way up.
The defense has really impressed me so far. I don’t think they have the raw talent to be a top 5 defense, but the good thing is they don’t have to be. They is a lot more ball hawking going on. One thing that stood out to me was that if there was a ball on the ground, a Saints player was jumping on it. On a couple of those Louis Murphy drops which could have been ruled fumbles the Saints did what they should and assumed it was a fumble until proven otherwise, and that’s something we didn’t really see last year. I may be getting overly optimistic, but there seems to be a lot more fight in our defense that in years past.
agreed
at one point i thought Harper was going to get into a fight with him after he caught the ball got tackled by a DB and let the ball hang out on the ground with his hand. That’s when Harper ran over and was desperately clawing for the ball. Should be interesting to see if we can force as many TOs as I’m expecting. Which will be about 2 a game on average and a few games where we get like 4 or so.
Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D
by skinnykinney on Aug 30, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I never listen to the broadcasters
If I can help it I mute the TV and listen to the game on the radio. I think it’s much more exciting than the b l a a a n d o l d guys on tv who seem to care less how the game turns out or how accurate they are
It's better to die like a lion, than to live like a pussy
The Raiders are truly awful
has any head coach ever been fired during the preseason? If anyone would do it, it’s Wild Al. Would be curious to know what the Raiders’ blogs say about this one: Bring Back Lane?
Being a Saints fan will take years off your life
I'd love to hear the Lions coaches in tonight meeting
“When we see the Saints in week one, let’s work on stopping this…………………………… Jeopardy thinking music plays as they watch the entire 3 1/2 hour game without stopping ……………… Alright men, if we can stop that, we might be able to keep our jobs. Let’s go out there and try not to make those faces on the sideline when the Saints score, they love to show those shots on Sportcenter.”
Who Dat?...... Drew Dat ! ! !
+1000000
funny stuff
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Good performance today
The big gaps in the middle of the defense on pass plays was maddening, but then we got the strips afterwards, so…
I just wonder how we’ll look come the regular season, and we won’t know that until each game unfolds.
My biggest concern now is the health of our players – especially Reggie and PT, and Usama.
"I like our back end." -- Mickey Loomis, to Solomon Wilcots and Tim Brando during a press box interview in the 4th Quarter of the Saints-Bengals preseason game.
yeah
those gaps was maddening, and they really WERE maddening, too. Can’t believe my grammar.
"I like our back end." -- Mickey Loomis, to Solomon Wilcots and Tim Brando during a press box interview in the 4th Quarter of the Saints-Bengals preseason game.
by Hans Petersen on Aug 29, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
But they took away before they gave up points
I know preseason counts for nothing, but the defense really looks like the right kind of aggressive. Our defense was terrible last year. And our offense was immaculate. So far, our offense looks just as good, but our defense looks as improved as advertised. It’s getting hard to stave off the optimism.
true
last year we gave up those yards, and then points as well. so far, it’s give up the yards but then get the ball. I’ll call that an improvement. And remember, that’s all we were really hoping for to help us move to the next level…
"I like our back end." -- Mickey Loomis, to Solomon Wilcots and Tim Brando during a press box interview in the 4th Quarter of the Saints-Bengals preseason game.
by Hans Petersen on Aug 30, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Keys to the season
Establish a running game and generating a pass rush. If we can establish one of the two, we will go to the playoffs. If we establish both, we will make a deep run as a championship contender.
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 29, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you!
Are you the same SS from scout.com?
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 30, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions
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in the 4th quarter
i came to the realization that if there are any true raider fans, they should assassinate al davis. they not only do they look dysfunctional, but it looks like its getting worse. as well as we played, they are truly pathetic.
by DrewBreesManCrush on Aug 29, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions
I really do think that Al Davis is doing great damage to the organization
it’s sad
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 30, 2009 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions
i know its only the raiders but it definitely looks like from what we have seen in this prseason that the saints are going to be better this year , a couple of road wins is whats needed , damn you saintsational all that talk of in an out has got me hungry , it morning here , will have to wait at least 6 hours before i can order a burger..
but geaux Saints! you can only beat what they put in front of you.. so far so good..
Football is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom.
DANNY BLANCHFLOWER
The one glaring negative once again has to be the play of the outside linebackers. To my recollection, there was one play that Troy Evans got into the backfield to cause some chaos. Other than that, zilch.
Zach Miller appeared to be roaming free in the secondary. No one within 10 yards to check his hall pass, at least a couple of times. Much better push by the DL and Vilma, it’s just the play on the perimeter of the front seven that worries me. On the bright side, I now know I’ll either be targeting Gonzalez or Winslow in my FF draft today. Maybe even Pettigrew for a week 1 plug ’n play, if I can spare the flyer.
WR is starting to look like the toughest cut on the team. Had Harper caught the Hail Mary tip drill, he would have punched his meal ticket. He had a TD nullified on that ridiculous series of illegal formations — wtf was going on there, anyway? I saw Nesbitt getting his buttocks chewed out on the sidelines — and he also dropped one right in the bread basket. Roby looked serviceable, as always. They even managed to work him in on an end-around. Neither Green nor Arrington made any headway in the race for one, possibly two slots. I think Green’s gone and the Miami game should sort out the rest.
At RB, I liked what I saw out of everyone, though no one truly outperformed the others on a per carry average. Being that Hamilton’s already paid his one year practice squad dues, I’ll go out on a limb and say he gets the 4th golden ticket. That’s assuming there even is a 4th.
Harrington’s still sailing passes here and there, but showed a good bit more than Brunell on the whole. I’m not terribly worried about the backup QB race, though. There’s about to be three potential upgrades on the market, in the odd man out in Oakland (Frye or Gradkowski), Washington (Brennan or Daniel), and Tampa Bay (McCown or Johnson). Chase Daniel would be choice, as every scout under the sun has compared his skill set to Drew Brees, though I have a feeling Colt will be the one galloping free in another week or so. Gradkowski and Lance Moore were a lethal combo at Toledo and McCown is an in-state product (Louisiana Tech), so at least one interesting storyline may develop there yet.
Oh, and just in case you didn’t pick up on it the first two dozen I mentioned it, Meachem will lead the team in both receptions and yardage this season. Also, not only will Prioleau make the final roster, he’ll be a key contributor throughout, both on defense and special teams. Those were my early offseason predictions and I’m sticking to them.
I be grindin' while u besmirchin'.
having seen chase daniel a lot in college
I want no part of him. I could be totally wrong, but I don’t see him developing into a serviceable NFL QB.
i definitely agree about our OLBs
they had free roam on some of those plays… gotta keep those down to a minimum
It's almost time to stop saying the OL can't run block
seems like our running game is going well, but we’ll see how the regular season shakes out. I also thought Brunell did quite well. I may have to look at the replay, but I thought the starting LBs- in fact the entire starting defense played well. Certainly not playing against an elite NFL team, but I’ll take it. I think our offense has the ability to do that against any team, the defense will face some bigger challenges, but I like what I see.
time to be optimistic
There has been a lot of chatter that we should take into account that the Raiders are the worst team in creation and therefore the performance should be partially discounted. A few comments on this. First, the Raiders are not THAT bad. They’re not good, but they didn’t go 0-16 last year. They had actually looked decent this preseason. Second, even if they are that bad, we did what we’re supposed to do- totally dominate them. I know preseason isn’t always an accurate predictor of the regular season, but there have been plenty of Saints teams who have not been able to do that. Lastly, the defense is only going to get better as the season progresses and the players learn the system better. A wonderful thought…
Yeah, I'm ready to start playing for real now to see what we've got
I’m hoping for a fast start…7-0 would be nice.
"I like our back end." -- Mickey Loomis, to Solomon Wilcots and Tim Brando during a press box interview in the 4th Quarter of the Saints-Bengals preseason game.
by Hans Petersen on Aug 30, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking
How about let Sharper and Usama play S and slide Harper in at Shanle’s spot?
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
That's a good idea, but maybe sub Prioleau for Young
but you’d really want to sideline the Saints defensive player of the year? Did you see that tackle LunchPale Lenny made yesterday? It was totally the right thing to do at the time.
Did you notice how he allowed gravity to work to his advantage? At the moment of impact, it was almost as if the earth’s forces inquired as to their role in the equation. Instead of monopolizing the glory of the tackle, Shanle shrewdly conceded assistance. It’s almost like having Bobby Fischer’s brain duct taped to a heat-seeking missle. Ten more Lunch Pales, please.
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