Epic Fail 2009 NFC South Edition

by Hap Glaudi's Ghost on Sep 1, 2009 7:45 AM CDT Comment 50 comments

"It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail." - Gore Vidal.

Of course we all want the Saints to be awesomely awesome this year. After watching them behead the Oakland Raiders, clearly a Super Bowl is coming. In order for this to happen, however, other teams need to struggle, stink, have general incompetence or be coached by Josh McDaniels.

I want any team from the NFC not named the Saints to fail miserably.

There, I said it. Of course, wishing all teams except the Saints to suffer massive injury would make this column really short and could bring karmic retribution. But if Steve Smith went missing for 6-8 weeks because aliens may or may not have abducted him, I wouldn't lose any sleep. So instead of a standard NFL preview with predictions that will surely be wrong, I give you Epic Fail NFC South: A look at ways all the NFC South teams could run head long into disaster which we, as Saints fans, would surely enjoy.

Atlanta Falcons

Damnit. I thought Michael Vick going to the can was going to set Atlanta back until 2015. I was all ready to enjoy watching the Saints play in a half empty Georgia Dome and slaughter the Falcons as all six of their fans pined for the good old days of Jim Mora, Jr. and Michael Vick. Then they lucked into Matt Ryan. Maybe Ryan could be caught running an illegal underage dwarf sex ring out of his house. The FBI should at least look into it and leak the details to Mike Florio at Pro Football Talk. Or maybe their coach, Anderson Cooper, could lose sixty pounds and go back to hosting that show on CNN nobody watches.

I hate the Falcons so much.

The only thing worse than the Saints not winning is the Falcons being successful. It's like finding out that your mortal enemy is doing really well, has a great job and you have to see him or her every week. Nauseating. Matt Ryan is going to the Hall of Fame, curing cancer, and fixing health care according to Peter King. Hey moron - Ryan threw sixteen touchdowns last year!! He handed off to Michael Turner over 300 times and stunk down the stretch. Matty Ice - you should keep that up for 2009. And John Abraham should go back to only playing once a month like he wants to. That way the Falcon defense can fail...epically.

Carolina Panthers

I know I should hate Carolina, but I don't. I save all my Carolina hate purely for Steve Smith. What the Saints really need is Smith to fail in 2009. He could punch a teammate - Jake Delhomme - or even a nun. I don't care. We just need him unhappy. The best way to insure a Carolina epic fail is to have Jake build off his tremendous playoff game against Arizona and start 2009 like he finished 2008. Since the Panthers' first three games are against the Eagles, Falcons, and Cowboys, it just might happen.

I was listening to WWLTV.com's Ralph Malbrough's podcast and he made a rare good point when talking about Delhomme. By the way, the show would be really good if Dave would tell Ralph to shut the hell up. That guy's voice is terrible. He sounds like his balls got chopped off and he's got a cold. Charming. Anyway, Ralph said that Delhomme's playoff performance was like a guy cheating on his wife: She might forgive him but she never forgets and the first time he looks at another woman, the memory comes right on back. If Jake can suck early in the year, the fans will turn on him as his six-turnover opus flashes in front of their eyes. And it will be glorious. Epic Fail!

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

You might say we need not wish the Bucs Epic Fail because they can do it on their own. Maybe. They hired a 12-year-old coach, have a sacktastic QB, and are breaking out the creamsicle pirate uniforms. Throw in a brutal first half schedule and Tampa seems right on track to suck. Hard. The thing is: They have a really good, young offensive line, and nice stable of running backs. They might play close games, win a few, then start believing they are actually good. What they need to do is play that 10-year-old quarterback, Josh Freeman. He's the second coming of Akili Smith. He needs snaps immediately. No sense wasting time, Tampa. Get to it. Their new coach will be like Mike Tomlin of the Steelers, minus the winning.

For the Saints to win, others must fail. They just need to get to it already.

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Epic Fail

and illegal underage dwarf sex ring , pretty funny stuff. I think the Falcons and Matty Ryan will come back to earth a bit this year. They might be the WC, but the Saints will take the division. The Bucs and Panthers will be out of it by week 8.

by SaintsB on Sep 1, 2009 7:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This is the first year

I’m truly pulling for 31 starting quarterbacks to get injured for the duration of the season. Well, 30, Oakland can keep their starter, it’s irrelavent.

I’m totally with you, Hap. Except on the Anderson Cooper look alike. I don’t really see it

Besmirching the reverence of the sport of customer service since Aug 26, 2009

by asaint on Sep 1, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

dammit falcons

im with you on the falcons, i was ready to enjoy a decade of garbage from atlanta. why is everyone so quick to anoint matty anyway? im sure i could step in to hand it to turner 350 times too (probably couldnt do the meager amount of passing that he does though, and i would probably cry if i got sacked). i did laugh hysterically at my one falcon acquaintance (hes not my friend) when norwood went down on saturday. i hope turners next.

by DrewBreesManCrush on Sep 1, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You laughed hysterically at an injury? I wish I could be that classy.

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 1, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, you're just ass-y

Who IS the Stig?

by Hollywoo! on Sep 1, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If ass-y is the opposite of finding humor in personal injury, I feel fairly comfortable with that designation.

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 1, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he laughed at his friend

not the actual injury

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by Saintsational on Sep 1, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And he was hoping to laugh at Turner next. Not about Turner getting injured nor Norwood’s injury. Just because he would have gotten tired of laughing at his friend by then. About nothing in particular. It all makes sense now.

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 1, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so angry

he didn’t say that he laughed at Norwood nor was he going to laugh at Turner getting injured. He laughed at his Falcon aquaintance(probably his reaction) when Norwood got hurt. He then said that he hoped Turner got hurt next. He didn’t say he was going to laugh at Turner and he didn’t laugh at Norwood. I know the next argument will be why is he wishing that someone gets hurt? I feel the same way at times. When we get ready to play Carolina, I’m going to hope that Deangelo Williams is hurt too so we don’t have to play against him. I don’t hope that it’s career-threatening or anything like that but I wouldn’t mind them not having their starting RB and most dangerous weapon. Maybe that’s what he was trying to say. He didn’t ask him to die or never play again. He could have meant it in a number of ways. Maybe he does want something bad to happen to Turner because he doesn’t like him but maybe not.

Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D

by skinnykinney on Sep 1, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

jeez

im sorry to have offended the most classy guy on the site. yes, i want atlanta to be a horrible detroit lions version of itself. its not like im taking a bat to his knees and hoping that his kids grow up on the street. i was happy a couple of years ago when vick went down (can you honestly tell me that you werent a little excited by that). if you want to take everything i say so seriously and you fail to notice the 50% bullshit that sprinkled in most of my comments, than stop reading them. but seriously, i hope that micheal turner breaks both of his knees.

by DrewBreesManCrush on Sep 2, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

watch your language...

you get the opposite of a Boom!! You get a flag. That stays on your permanent record. Good luck getting a job!

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by Saintsational on Sep 2, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’ve never gotten excited or happy about an injury, regardless of what team a player plays for. A hit that lead to an injury? Of course. Who doesn’t like to see hard hits? When Sheldon Brown lit up Reggie Bush in the playoff game a few years back, I was thoroughly entertained by its ferocity. That doesn’t mean my concern didn’t immediately shift to Bush, crawling around on all fours, trying to catch his breath. The same thing would hold true, had that been Mike McKenzie nailing the snot bubbles out of Brian Westbrook.

“but seriously, i hope that micheal turner breaks both of his knees.”

If seriously = seriously, you’re seriously an idiot.

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 2, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shhhhhhh....

[wisper] Karma police may be listening.

by WhoDat_OH on Sep 1, 2009 10:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Matt Ryan

I got the Football Outsiders Preview and they are stat nerds and usually correct. They are not high on the birds at all.
Of course the aren’t high on the Saints but I rather look at the positive.

by Hap Glaudi's Ghost on Sep 1, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Even from the Football Outsiders perspective,

you’ve gotta like our chances of sneaking into the playoffs as the best of a bad division. And from a less statistically accurate and more “from the gut” approach, the Saints look to be a good team this year whose easiest games may actually come from the division, if I can join in the cherry picking for a moment. Anyway, the only trick for the Saints is for them to not turn bad all of a sudden, and for no discernible reason. They statistically suck at this, but maybe all that culture changing will help fix this, at least enough to sweep the Dirty Birds and the Creamsickles, and to put up some good games against the AFC for once.
I’ve been thinking this would be a 9-7 year, we’d juuust miss the playoffs, and Payton would be searching the classifieds by March, but maybe, if the division slumps like predicted, 9-7 will be enough.

by FuSoYa on Sep 1, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Matt Ryan will cure cancer

and when they find out that removing Drew Brees cancerous birth mark was unsuccessful at stopping the cancer that will one day take his sight, it will be Matt Ryan’s cure that allows your elite QB to continue to play football.

You can thank the Falcons later, after Drew Brees takes the fall for Matt Ryan’s illegal underage dwarf fetish to make it up to him.

I’m just talking out my ass, but this was a fun read… and so was coldpizza’s ridiculous post about Drew Brees facial blemishes. Thanks Saints fans for keeping me entertained as the 2 of the longest weeks of the offseason draw to a close.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Sep 1, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You're welcome. It's the least we can do....

considering the impending spanking the Falcons will receive from the Saints on not one but two occasions this year. :)

"He has got a good ol' boy sense of humor, but he has also got a good ol' boy sense of kick you in the ass, too,"--Gregg Williams describing Bill Johnson. The D WILL ROCK THIS YEAR!

by satchmo26 on Sep 1, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

rec'd it

Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D

by skinnykinney on Sep 1, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Carolina Chaos

Well either your psychic or able to project misfortune on the enemy. Either way I don’t want to be on your bad side.

With the Richardson brothers resigning as stadium and team presidents, the Panthers might just have the distractions that could keep them from being a viable threat.

by WhoDat_OH on Sep 1, 2009 12:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

All hail Hap

Now project on the Falcons and Bucs.

by WhoDat_OH on Sep 1, 2009 12:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

you gotta love it

fox will pull it together, but it’s nice to see the dysfunction.

by r c a on Sep 1, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Falcons fan here

let’s be honest… this is going to be a close season. 9-7 could win it and 3 teams in this division can go 9-7. Personally I favor the Saints, then ATL and CAR are tied.

now… question…

yahoo has Devery Henderson as #2 on your depth chart. Is this correct?? Seems like Moore should be #2. Henderson averages 30 catches a year. Is he all of a sudden supposed to catch 50-60 balls?

If so, what kind of numbers will he put up and is he a worthy #3 WR in fantasy. Thanks.

Your offense is frightening.

by nathan rothschild on Sep 1, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Right now, I think you’re still looking at Colston and Moore as the starters. Meachem appears to have surpassed Henderson as the #3 WR. From a production standpoint, i.e, what to expect, I think any of those top three are capable of leading the team in both receptions and yardage. Henderson could edge his way into the top three by season’s end, but I really don’t see him finishing any higher than that, barring a rash of injuries at the position.

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 1, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hard to predict

The thing to remember is that Brees is very good at spreading the ball around to all of his receivers, tight ends, and backs. Moore mostly received the passes and yards he got last year due to the injuries to Colston, Bush, Shockey, and others. That’s not to say he won’t get comparable looks this year, but I wouldn’t count on it unless the injury epidemic starts again. Henderson may be losing ground to Meachem and he has never been a consistent fantasy producer. That may change, but I haven’t seen anything to convince me that it will. Right now, Colston looks like the only WR who will consistently put up decent fantasy numbers. So far, I would only start Henderson if the Saints are playing against a shutdown CB like Nnamdi Asomugha who will inevitably get assigned to Colston and thereby force Brees to go to Henderson or Moore more.

"He has got a good ol' boy sense of humor, but he has also got a good ol' boy sense of kick you in the ass, too,"--Gregg Williams describing Bill Johnson. The D WILL ROCK THIS YEAR!

by satchmo26 on Sep 1, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we sub a lot

dont forget that we sub a lot, it just matters who’s in on a particular play. drew can get it to all four (colston, moore, devery, and meachem) plus shockey or bush/pierre. after colston the production will probably be sporadic unless there are some injuries (knock on wood).

by DrewBreesManCrush on Sep 1, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

don banks likes pj hill

he calls him a gem, the saints will have a tough decision to make, but that’s good news.

what do ya’ll think? will pj make the final cut? keep in mind he will be scoped up the second he is cut, so the practice squad is not an option

by r c a on Sep 1, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

at least practice squad

if they release him, he won’t be available if they want him back. I imagine another team would pick him up.

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by Saintsational on Sep 1, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He’s shown some promise, but so have a lot of backs in the league that are going to wind up unemployed in a few more days. The practice squad means nothing. Any team can grab a player off of any other team’s practice squad at any given time. The only questions should be “is he one of our top four halfbacks?” and “do we keep four halfbacks?” If the answer to either one of those questions is no, he should be waived. If he doesn’t clear waivers or gets snatched off the practice squad later on, oh well. Odds are there will be a similiar “gem” out there, if and when we need one. I certainly don’t think he’s worth hoarding based on anything I’ve seen.

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 1, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

butt........

neither is hamilton, it seems to me the saints will keep 1 full back and, 4 halfbacks, so why not keep the best 4. bell has made the team,but i think the last spot will come down to hamilton or hill ,keep in mind he’s the only one who has not put the ball on the ground, plus the saints have given him looks in goal line and short yardage, and he has yet to fail, it took him 2 tries on the goal line in the raiders game, but the blocking was poor. at one point gergg williams in practice pulled the whole D and made them do " up downs" when hill gashed them for 11 yards on a third and short play, hill has the potential to be a great back in this league.

by r c a on Sep 1, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Donaldson hasn’t fumbled, either. Not that that’s even the make or break factor in who doesn’t or doesn’t make the team. If Payton was putting that much emphasis on not fumbling whatsoever, Bell and Hamilton would both be gone already. They may want to keep two fullbacks. Sobomehin’s looked pretty good too, even on special teams coverage. Like I said, I don’t think any of these four guys (Bell included) are terribly special. They’ve just looked good in preseason. No different than two or three dozen other backs that are going to be out of a job this time next week. Do you really think GMs are going to be stumbling all over one another to sign our table scraps? As of right now, Hill ranks seventh among all rookie RBs in preseason in average yards per game. That’s just the rookies. Most teams already have a set starter and a backup, plus probably one other back of their own that they’re high on. It’s not like they’re going to be lining up, clamoring over an undrafted player whose done little more than punch it into the end zone three times from close range. The potential to be a great player? Couldn’t you say the same thing about practically every NFL RB under 25 years old? How many of those are going to be released, i.e., unemployed due to lack of roster space, very shortly?

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 1, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i don't see it that way

he’s not table scraps, he will be picked up. we have a durability issue at running back, the three guys that have made the team are nicked-up. you can’t have to many young guys, i think drew brees would disagree with you on bell, and has said so in the press. last year he looked average, but this year he came in stronger,bigger,and faster (just like me).

it’s really not fair to compare hill’s yards per, because he’s been used mostly in goal line and short yardage, it’s hard to break off a long run when your one yard from the end zone, and isn’t that what we are looking for a big short yardage guy?

look, the question i was asking was who would you keep. i think your saying it don’t matter cus they all suck,or are just so-so

what did sobomehin do to garner your praise? to me he looked like he was in over his head.

by r c a on Sep 1, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i with RCA

sobomehein doesnt look that great to me…
however bell is a lock to make the final cut…Hamilton and Hill are gonna fight it out in the dolphins game

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by ShadowFlash on Sep 1, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't care about Sobo, as Bell could fill in in a pinch at FB, but...

what makes you guys not like him? Our running production hasn’t suffered in second halves, which suggests that his blocking was okay, and the couple of plays he has made were positive. I thought he seemed alright.

by FuSoYa on Sep 1, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sobomehin

has has looked good on special teams coverage. Pretty sure I mentioned that. I wasn’t praising him. All I said is that the Saints might wind up keeping three HBs and two FBs. I don’t think that that’s much of a stretch, all things considered. There’s no doubt in my mind that Bell has nailed down the third spot. I just don’t think any of the other three have necessarily earned a spot on the roster. The mere fact that we’re still debating whose best out of Hamilton, Hill and Donaldson after training camp has come and gone tends to validate that observation. If any ONE of those three gets picked up by another team, I’ll be surprised. If all three do? Well, then I guess we’ll have to do the unthinkable and sign the 4th best RB from someone else’s training camp roster. Seriously, what’s the big deal? Players of this caliber are everywhere you look in the NFL. Samkon Gado sat out an entire year and now he’s Steven Jackson’s primary backup in St, Louis. Jesse Chapman has disappeared and reappeared more times than David Blaine. The Saints carried two FBs into last season with Ricky Dudley, if I’m not mistaken. While we may very well keep one of these guys as a 4th HB, you’re acting like it would be a grave mistake if they don’t.

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 2, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it may be a mistake

to me this is the most important cut, running backs take the most pounding. bush has proven to have durability issues, we could lose a running back on any play,

my faith in your ability to judge talent is suspect, you don’t think bell is “special”,but brees does. who should i believe? you think shanle sucks, but vilma thinks he’s a important part of our defense. who should i believe? don banks thinks pj is a gem, you think he sucks. who should i believe?

you assume that because the three backs are in tight battle is because they haven’t earned a spot . maybe it’s because all three have merit. i like hamilton and herb, but feel that hill has more potential.

fullbacks are easier to find than half backs, plus the tight ends can be used as a full back . that’s why i think the saints will keep 4 halfbacks, but it’s just my opinion.

you would be surprised if any of the three gets picked up, i think herb and hill will get picked up in a heart beat, care to make a bet? how about it? lets make it interesting, no cash, but something humiliating,

by r c a on Sep 2, 2009 3:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

“you don’t think bell is "special",but brees does.”

“Special” as in “third best on the current roster”? Brees is right. You’ve talked me into it.

“don banks thinks pj is a gem, you think he sucks.”

Please point out where I said he sucks.

“you think shanle sucks, but vilma thinks he’s a important part of our defense.”

Again, please point out where I said he sucks. I think he’s inadequate as a WLB. Odds are Gregg Williams agrees, if he’s trying him out as a SLB.

“you assume that because the three backs are in tight battle is because they haven’t earned a spot . maybe it’s because all three have merit.”

Earning a spot would be distancing yourself from the competition. In that sense, none of the three have earned the spot, imo. There are players at other positions (i.e., roster spots) that HAVE distanced themselves from their competition. It would be different, of it was etched in stone that we’re definitely keeping four halfbacks. That’s when you take a deep breath and hope you’re picking the right ~~straw~~ guy. That’s not necessarily the case here.

“fullbacks are easier to find than half backs”

While I’m not sure if you’re referring to quality or quantity, in either case I completely disagree.

“i think herb and hill will get picked up in a heart beat, care to make a bet? how about it? lets make it interesting, no cash, but something humiliating,”

If you:

a.) define “a heart beat”.
b.) specify one or both backs
c.) state the grounds of humiliation, including the time frame of both its initiation and duration

I’ll strongly consider such a wager.

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 2, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

re: proposed bet

Also, what happened to Hamilton? Or is he a lock to make the team now?

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 2, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hamilton has the inside track....but

pj’s pushing him.

you didn’t use the word “sucks” in your comments, but implied that the backs are not worthy a spot on the team, or a dime a dozen. i disagree, i think the team did a great job bringing high quality free agents, that will play at a high level in this league, if not with the saints somewhere else.

my point is that the third back could become the starting back in a heart beat,especially when your first back ain’t a back at all, and only then can you or i judge bell’s worth. i just feel that he has worked hard and earned his spot, just like PT did. that makes him special in my book, not third back special, but lucky to have him special. show the guy some respect.

now, to the shanle thing…..what? he doesn’t suck ,he’s just inadequate. what the heck does that mean? when my wife sez i suck in bed, i think it means i am inadequate.

when did shanle get moved or tried at the sam, this is big news,i hadn’t heard this, and would like to know your source on this one. sounds kinda “hinky” to me.

now on to the bet…. how about if herb and hill gets waived they will be picked -up in 5 days or less? now i think they both will get offers from more than one team on day one,the delay will be because they will be negotiating for a better offer.
if they don’t i will write a post declaring you as the grand wizzard of talent evaluation, and that my kung-fu is inadequate(i’ll ask my wife for help on that part)

if they don’t you write a piece admitting your kung-fu is weak and i’m the master of the dojo

this is just the first offer ,if you have a better idea, holla back,

i think we need a witness if these terms are to your liking.

by r c a on Sep 2, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

“when my wife sez i suck in bed, i think it means i am inadequate.”

First, I’m sorry to hear about your shortcomings. I’m still not convinced you suck at every facet of life, however. I mean, you may … but your wife’s need for proper pumpage isn’t all that indictive of you being incompetent at your place of employment. It doesn’t mean you can’t parallel park, perform long division or roller skate in a buffalo herd. You’re just inadequate in bed. Shanle’s inadequate as a starting WLB. Draw whatever other unspoken conclusions you want from that assessment, just know that I never stated them.

“when did shanle get moved or tried at the sam, this is big news,i hadn’t heard this, and would like to know your source on this one. sounds kinda "hinky" to me.”

My source is watching preseason games and noticing Shanle lined up on the same side as the opposing team’s tight end. Fujita being out and Evans starting in his place at the Will. Just subtle observational stuff like that. Maybe I’ve been watching these games in a mirror and just don’t realize it yet(?) I suppose that’s possible.

Five days is fine, but let me suggest better stipulations:

1. Reggie Bush, Pierre Thomas and Mike Bell are assumed to have made the final 53 man roster. Regardless of what transpires, they’re not part of the bet.

2. Lynell Hamilton, PJ. Hill and Herb Donaldson are vying for one (possible) remaining roster spot at HB. They’re all part of the bet.

3. It’s conceivable that MORE than one of that group will make the team, provided they’re injured in tonight’s game and put on IR. The bet will ONLY cover those who are cut or waived, in order to make the 53 player limit.

The breakdown by scenario:

If ALL THREE are cut and/or waived, TWO must sign with NFL another team within five days of being cut and/or waived, in order for you to win the bet.

If TWO are cut and/or waived, ONE must sign with NFL another team within five days of being cut and/or waived, in order for you to win the bet. (I’m willing to give you the tiebreaker there).

If ONE is cut or waived, that player must sign with NFL another team within five days of being cut and/or waived, in order for you to win the bet.

If NONE are cut and/or waived, the bet is off.

4. The LOSER of the bet agrees to change his personal tag line to the following:

ME = “Misevaluating NFL talent since 1967.”

YOU = “Gushing over table scraps since [insert birth year].”

5. The LOSER of the bet agrees to wear his new tag line until the Saints’ Week 5 bye and cannot change it until then.

6. The LOSER of the bet also agrees to post on a regular basis until then, so that the tag line remains visible in these forums.

7. The bet must be agreed to PRIOR to any of the three being cut or waived. Otherwise, the bet is off.

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

deal

tonight’s game will be more interesting knowing that it’s a job interview for these guys,and now i have a stake in it. i would say may the best man win but that wouldn’t be fair to you.

p.s. i am going camping at fort pickens on sants rosa island friday through monday so if the bet is over by then, i won’t be able to gloat till i return

by r c a on Sep 3, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I won’t be around much this weekend, either. No a big deal, as I won’t officially win the bet until Thursday.

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's very formal

but it sounds like a good bet. CP’s got a good chance but someone hurting for a decent RB might want to take 1 or 2 of em too. should be interesting but I give a slight edge to CP.

Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D

by skinnykinney on Sep 3, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

denver would be my guess.....

they are desperate for backs

by r c a on Sep 3, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are Don Banks and Sainsational the same person?

Check out this post:

• WINNER — I’ve been cautiously optimistic that new Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams will be the key to New Orleans finally repairing the Achilles heel of the roster, but the results have been even better than anyone had a right to expect through three weeks of the preseason. The Saints have given up just four touchdowns in three games, with the rush defense being particularly strong (3.4 average gain, nine first downs allowed and no touchdowns).

New Orleans hasn’t plowed through a murderer’s row in beating Cincinnati, Houston and Oakland, but no matter how you cut it, routing three opponents by a combined score of 100-28 with a plus-5 turnover ratio makes a positive impression as the season looms. It’s not the time to be talking much if you’re the Saints defense. Just go out and prove that this time it’s change we can believe in.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/don_banks/09/01/winners.losers/index.html?eref=T1#ixzz0PslQPpZz

Banks has also been “cautiously optimistic” about the Saints and Gregg Williams’s impact this season.

"He has got a good ol' boy sense of humor, but he has also got a good ol' boy sense of kick you in the ass, too,"--Gregg Williams describing Bill Johnson. The D WILL ROCK THIS YEAR!

by satchmo26 on Sep 1, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

had this to say too

• WINNER — Just as they did a couple years ago in discovering the undrafted Pierre Thomas, the Saints might have found themselves another gem of a collegiate free-agent running back in P.J. Hill. The former Wisconsin Badger carried 12 times for 83 yards and a couple touchdowns in that slaughter of the Raiders on Saturday, and now has scored three times in New Orleans’ three preseason games.

In fact, the Saints running game has three rushers who have gained at least 100 yards this preseason, and none of them are named either Thomas or Reggie Bush, who have been out with injuries for a couple weeks. Lynell Hamilton, an undrafted 2008 free agent out of San Diego State, has led the team with 143 yards on 31 carries, and former Bronco Mike Bell has rolled up 115 yards on just 15 attempts, a gaudy 7.7 average. In fact, New Orleans could be the new Denver, the team that can always find another quality running back.

by MT_always on Sep 1, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but....

don’t a player have to clear waivers to be put on the P squad?

by r c a on Sep 1, 2009 1:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yes

"It feels like a tiny prick " -Reggie Bush

by coldpizza on Sep 1, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

to be honest...

i almost didn’t read this. you’re imminent destruction of the Saints depresses me at times. But, I read the first couple lines, found out it was going to be about the other teams failing and decided to read it. Glad I did. I don’t hate the Falcons but more so the Bucs. Thanks for the read and not mentioning punters that do…well, questionable things ;D.

Superbowl bound!!!...I hope? Go Saints! :D

by skinnykinney on Sep 1, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs