Saints Dominance In, Cautious Optimism Out
I think it's pretty safe to say we are all riding pretty high as Saints fans right now, particularly after Sunday's victory over the Eagles. It might be a tad bit early to start thinking about Miami but damn if things aren't looking pretty good so far. The Saints' stock is on the rise as they've jumped to seventh in ESPN's power rankings. Can't you feel that excitement in the air? It's right here on CSC (loving all the FanPosts!), it's all over Who Dat Nation and it's even permeating to the National level. Mike Detillier said his phone has been ringing off the hook.
And doesn't it feel familiar? The Saints started off the 2006 campaign by winning two nail-biters and showing that things would be different that year. This season, they've come strong out of the gate again, this time blowing opponents out of the water but still out to prove, once again, they are not who we think they are.
In fact, Sports Illustrated just had an article about the Saints in this weeks issue, nominating them as this years leading "dark horse" candidate and noticing that they have a legitimate shot at making a Super Bowl run. It was aptly titled, "Why Not Us?" and I think that simple question get's right down to the heart of how we, as Saints fans, have always felt. During a season when the mighty Patriots are one fumble away from 0-2 and four currently undefeated teams didn't even make the playoffs last year, Saints included, why can't this finally be the year?
It can be. What is most important, though, is that if this season promises to be the year than what it can't be is anything at all like the last two. It should more emulate yet look to improve on the greatest Saints season to date, 2006. So far, things are going smoothly toward that end. Injuries have not piled up, the defense is improved (really!), turnovers are being created, the kicking situation is steady; hell, even the refs are cutting them some slack (I'm looking at you Stinch). Also of great importance, the Saints seem to have good mojo on their side, playing teams at just the right time. That same aura of destiny that surrounded the Saints three years ago can once again be felt and it's obvious in the way they've steamrolled opponents so far this season. Those victories say: This is our year and nobody is going to take that away from us.
So let me make it official. I am no longer cautiously optimistic. To hell with all of that. I am returning to my normal state of Who Dat fandemonium where I'm most needed and where none of my thinking is rational. Don't believe me? Check out the new tagline. I am confident that this is the year the Saints will win it all because, well, why not us?
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I gave you a chance before the season started to get on the bus...
But I’m glad you’re on board.
I mean what’s a Saint without a little blind faith?
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blind drunkenness works, too
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by Hans Petersen on Sep 23, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
we had so many doubters then
but now they’re all trying to jump on. I’ll gladly give them a spot on the bus because we can use all the support we can get!
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by skinnykinney on Sep 23, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Ummmmm...maybe we should wait
Stafford. Kolb. Two games of NFL experience combined…
This road Buffalo game, against a team with a balanced attacked, looks earmarked for a loss at this stage after the big Eagles win.
All aboard!
Train’s leaving the station! Better hurry!
Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston
Buffalo is 31st against the pass.
And they are a good running team but mediocre passing. On paper, they are waaay the wrong team to mess up our mojo.
by GlackAndBold on Sep 23, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
The only reason I could see them pulling it off is if our running game defense is a total sham. And I don’t think it is. It’s probably not quite as good as it appears because of teams having to abandon it to try to play catch up, but I don’t think it’s that much worse either. If we can keep the 10+ yard plays given up on the ground to, say, two or three, we should be just fine.
Buffalo is 31st against the pass.
that’s a pretty deceiving stat. We’ve faced over 100 passes this year because teams were playing catchup.
Buffalo ranks No. 12 in the league in opponent YPA
from our executive director – and this is a much more telling stat
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I'm seeing 17th YPA against the pass and 8th YPA
against the run…maybe the 12th ranking is against both run and pass?
Interestingly, both rankings are pretty close to the Saints (5th YPA against the run, 19th YPA against the pass).
Anyway, I wouldn’t expect other than confidence from you, the Bills have looked very good through two games. I’m sure you wouldn’t expect otherwise from us. :-)
by GlackAndBold on Sep 23, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Bills have looked very good through two games
well, maybe.
The Bucs are in complete rebuild mode and NE is pretty darn mediocre right now. You guys are easily the best competition we’ve faced this year.
I wouldn’t expect other than confidence from you
my comments had nothing to do with confidence, just perspective. becuase I highly doubt we win this game…..
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by J2 on Sep 23, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys are easily the best competition we’ve faced this year.
That’s a compliment coming from a team that has already played the Patriots. What is happening to the world?
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by Dave Cariello on Sep 23, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha – the Saints are 17th in YPA against the pass. Buffalo is 12. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 24, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
If we really think we have a good team..
we have to be like Drew….cool, calm, collected, professional, but enthusiastic and always positive
Not like some of those guys bitching about those Eagles fans and their negativity and cockiness…oops …err…well…., I mean …… the first thing… LOL
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we got this one
im more worried about the nyc teams
by DrewBreesManCrush on Sep 23, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions
Welcome aboard...or welcome to the asylum.
I’ve been insanely optimistic since the signing of Gregg “Savior” Williams. Let’s enjoy this ride while it lasts because, as we all know, these moments of fanhood euphoria don’t come around very often for Saints fans. If it all falls apart at some point, we can all join up in a group hug and cry ourselves to sleep until next year. After all, it’s only a game. For now though, let’s bask in the sunny goodness of this rare, league-wide Saints domination.
Did anyone see Mike & Mike in the Morning today? Herm Edwards was on there predicting an upset for us in Buffalo. It certainly could happen. There’s no mistaking that. But, these talking heads (and recently fired coaches who lost their job in large part due to their inability to accurately predict) just can’t fully accept our Saints as the real deal. They keep expecting the wheels to fall off. That’s great and I hope it continues. However, there’s something different about the 2009 Saints that’s never been the case before. I can’t shake loose the feeling that this is the best overall Saints team ever assembled.
Reality may smack me in the face this Sunday, but until that happens, I’ll still cling to this insane optimism. I don’t think the Saints are going to look past any opponent this year. I really like the attitude of fixing mistakes and getting better despite two blowout victories. That’s the main reason I’m so hopeful that this will be the year.
"He has got a good ol' boy sense of humor, but he has also got a good ol' boy sense of kick you in the ass, too,"--Gregg Williams describing Bill Johnson. The D WILL ROCK THIS YEAR!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 23, 2009 9:46 AM CDT reply actions
Oh yeah,
I love the new tagline. It’s perfectly appropriate.
"He has got a good ol' boy sense of humor, but he has also got a good ol' boy sense of kick you in the ass, too,"--Gregg Williams describing Bill Johnson. The D WILL ROCK THIS YEAR!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 23, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
To hell with Herm Edwards
he was the same genius who thought the Saints should/could sign Michael Vick.
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by Dave Cariello on Sep 23, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
maybe to piss of atlanta
thats the only reason we could have had to sign vick
by DrewBreesManCrush on Sep 23, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree that this is the best Saints team ever assembled
Is it good enough to wim a SB? We’ll see….
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In order to be considered a dominant team...
…you have to consistently beat credible teams that are at or near their peak level of ability. The Saints have beaten one of the worst teams in NFL history and followed it up with a win against a team missing their starting quarterback for much of the game. While these are certainly games that teams have to win in order to be considered serious contenders, one must be cautiously optimistic because of the quality of opponents.
The same can be said about the Bills. Buffalo is missing four key starters (RB Lynch, RT Butler, TE Schouman and MLB Posluszny). Any team missing that many starters has to be considered vulnerable. The Bills are not anywhere near their peak level of ability, and despite that they have held a lead for over 110 minutes of play, just eight days after a leading sports reporter called the Bills so bad they made the Lions look like Super Bowl contenders. With Butler gone, the offensive line is probably one of the most inexperienced in NFL history. Any one member of the Saints OL has more NFL starts than the Bills current front six combined. The Saints have to take advantage of that…advantage that neither the Patriots nor Bucs were able to do. The Saints have yet to prove they are a dominant team. They may do so in the coming month, but that time has not yet happened. Winning big in Orchard Park on Sunday will be a step in that direction, but not that big of one.
I think the media is overestimating the Saints because of their margin of victory, despite the lack of credible opponents. I also think the media is underestimating the Bills because of the way the New England game ended and their extreme youth, particularly on the offensive line while ignoring, their play on the field. If the Saints think this is going to be a rout they may be in for a very rude surprise.
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by Calvert on Sep 23, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
last year, when we didn't have half our defense...
I didn’t matter, ALL teams have injuries EVERY year. since when does the W column care if the oppostion was at their “peak”.
Sure, it’s two games, no one is crowning anyone. I’m just saying that I don’t care who is on the other side of the ball, I am confident the Saints can beat them.
I don’t think it’s the margin of victory,, it’s the fashion in which we won.
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I’ll take pounding teams that have good excuses for losing every week. I don’t care at all about media respect, or perceived dominance. Take that back, I’d prefer the Saints be called the worst winning team in the NFL than some kind of powerhouse. I’ll take a 19th ranked 2-0 over a 4th ranked 1-1.
Also, don’t forget the Saints won both without a starting RB, a pro-bowl LT, and our 2nd starting TE. We lined up a backup RT at TE on runs, and averaged above 5 ypc. And I’m not sure how much McNabb could do to polish that “top-ranked” turd of a defense, either.
All that said, playing the AFC makes me pretty nervous, and I’ve been impressed with the Bills so far. I expect this to be a much more “normal” kind of game than our last 2.
Talk about premature defensive posturing
…because if we beat the Bills it won’t really count because they’re not at full strength.
And where-oh-where is the media OVERestimating the Saints? You mean how everyone says Drew is the #1 fantasy QB to have? Because that’s the extent of the shout-outs we get—because, like you said Calvert, we beat the Lions who are the WORST TEAM IN NFL HISTORY (because we know how last season’s performance completely carries over for every team), and the Eagles didn’t have McNabb so they’re obviously not a “credible” opponent (wtf does that mean?).
I’m pretty sure no one claimed that the Saints were a dominant team in the NFL (that’s kind of the opposite of the “dark horse” status with which we’ve been bestowed), so there’s really no need to try to discredit us BEFORE we even play our next game. We’re 2-0, and as Saints fans we should all be allowed to enjoy that.
the dominance thing might be referring to the title of this post
but I am just a crazed, optimistic fan
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by Dave Cariello on Sep 23, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
About that margin of victory
The important thing to remember is this: we hung 45 points on one of the worst defenses in football. Then we hung 41 on one of the best. In their house. And it’s not as though the Eagles played poorly: they blitzed, the blitzes got picked up, and Drew carved them up like a surgeon. We simply beat them.
One other thing that good teams do, and we’ve learned this through painful failure over the past four decades: they win the games they should win. If both Detroit and Philadelphia represent cripples that should have been culled from the herd, I’d say the Saints did some pretty efficient culling. They look like a good team to me.
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Then we hung 41 on one of the best
well this is without their D coordinator – so let’s wait and see how that D is after more work against offenses. Look how the Titans have faired without their D coordinator then look at the Ravens as well. I know the Ravens have won but the Chiefs and Chargers both put up 20 pts against them – a year ago only 4 teams put up 20+ points on them and this year both teams have already.
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by J2 on Sep 23, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
then I forget to mention the effect of Rex Ryan to the Jet’s and how their defense has improved with almost the same defense except for Brian Scott and Jim Leonard.
Through 2 games they have zero TD’s against them – last year they did that once against the lowly, lowly Rams
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by J2 on Sep 23, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
FYI – this isn’t meant to discount your win’s because putting up 90+ pts in 2 weeks is ridiculous, regardless of opponent.
But I get in a habit of trying to look at the entire picture, being a Bills fan sometimes makes you that way. :)
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by J2 on Sep 23, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
In week 2
it’s hard to know what wins and losses mean. And we could play the same game…New England has a crippled defense and a quarterback who is apparently a shell of his former self, while Tampa may be worse than Detroit. (See how easy that was?)
But as I said…it’s hard at this point to know. Should be a good game, one way or another.
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well this is without their D coordinator –
Oh no. The late great Jim Johnson has been replaced by the very capable Sean McDermott, who we were coveting for our own before G-Dub came on. So none of that. Eagles fans and staff were all very confident in their defense for week 2, that’s why they were favored to with the game. The Miami Herald said that Drew Brees would have to face a REAL defense in Philadelphia. What M-E said: “We simply beat them.”
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well put
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by skinnykinney on Sep 23, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
very capable Sean McDermott
that’s possible he’s capable – but is he Johnson? only time will tell my friend
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by J2 on Sep 23, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I couldn't care less if McDermott proves out
I’m married to G-dub. And the Eagles are 1 for their last 3 in the Superdome. That’s not likely to improve any time soon (next 3 meetings).
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favored to win the game by who?
because I believe Vegas too the Saints by 1.
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by Dave Cariello on Sep 23, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
May have, but after McNabb was known to be out and Kolb starting, I swear I saw the odds in the paper as Philly 2.5. Here they say it was 2. That’s why I ranted to The Wichita Eagle and they told my That Greg Cote guy at The Miami Herald wrote the pregame summary:
Prediction: Philadelphia 24- (New Orleans) 20 Despite the risk of no D-Mac (McNabb), take the Eagles in the home nest. …. Drew Brees faces an actual, professional defense here…"
"That's a done dollar." -#94
agreed.
new or departed defensive coordinators make a difference. last season the saints would have blown those big leads againts detroit and philly, this season we expanded upon them.
I'm with you Satchmo
and I have met Herm Edwards- great guy, he was a great player. I don’t think he’s real bright. On the other hand, these guys are all about news, getting people’s attention, making it interesting without busting out a huge controversy. It makes for good press as they say.
"Indecision may or may not be my biggest problem" - Jimmy Buffet
Outside/Inside
I think that’s gonna be a theme this week.
There are all these outside voices (so-called experts) spouting off about the Saints v. Bills this week. Why the Saints can or should, can’t or won’t, win in Buffalo. The ONLY voices that really matter are inside the Saints locker room.
The Bills’ outside receivers and their inside running v. Saints’ revamped D. The numbers line up for a aerial assault — especially with TO and his mouth. So either Sharper will continue his pick-fest or a high scoring shootout. In the mental matchup between Van Pelt and GW, my money is on GW.
Our outside receivers won’t have an easy time against their corners, but our TEs should dominate the interior. That IMO is the key. Just like last week, soften up the edges by pounding the middle with inside runs and curl routs. Once their safeties start supporting the middle, hit em over the top.
Inside/outside the matchups seem to lean our way. My prediction — by middle of third quarter their will gets broken and you’ll see their chins on the chests.
by WhoDat_OH on Sep 23, 2009 10:37 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
but our TEs should dominate the interior
we’re hoping our SS Brian Scott get’s the matchup with your TE’s this week (well at least I am). Last year he did very, very well against good TE’s including Gates. This year they haven’t had him singled up on TE’s for whatever reason.
I’m hoping this Sunday that changes though….
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2 Simple Reasons
I think the interior of your D is suseptible.
1) Don’t discount the loss of Posluzny. A quick look at game tape, with/without him roaming the middle and getting the other ten in the proper position, shows his importance.
2) Not to be snide, but 5:24 to go. Two, count em two, TDs to a TE on the exact same play!
Brian Scott is good I’ll give you that. But he’ll be preoccupied with covering Colston & Devery & Lance & Meachem & Reggie & on and on and on, over the top to deny the big gain. Fine take away the 40+ pass gains. Drew will just move the chains — until you “adjust” to take away the short pass and then go over the top. Re: my previous statement.
by WhoDat_OH on Sep 23, 2009 2:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
nice reply!
the 2 TD’s were because of our Linebacker – not Scott. I’m also hoping that we don’t double most of your receivers with Scott – i’d like to see more man coverage with aggressive blitzing.
Basically I think Scott should be covering your TE then go from there as far as dealing with your TE’s goes
the loss of Poz does hurt badly
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by J2 on Sep 23, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
You might want to reconsider that
Drew eats blitzes for an appetizer. If you don’t get to him regularly, he will identify the hot receiver and slice your secondary into little pieces. I’ve said it before: the only to beat him is to disguise your coverages and make him throw picks.
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Drew eats blitzes for an appetizer
so does trent!
I’m just trying to thik of ways to stop you guys and hassling Brees is the only thing I can come up with. We get almost no pressure with our front 4 by their own so that’s why I think we should blitz.
unless you have any other ideas… :)
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by J2 on Sep 23, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
man up and stop the big play
that’s our biggest threat is the deep ball from Brees. I don’t suggest blitzing b/c Drew will either hot route or if it isn’t there, he’ll throw it away and make an adjustment for the next time. Also, our O-line picked up the blitz particularly well last week giving Brees plenty of time to find the more open receiver with the 1 on 1 matchups.
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by skinnykinney on Sep 23, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
well if it works then i’m down!
Trent is pretty good against the blitz as well. If we sit in our tampa 2 shell I worry he’s just going to tear that apart.
But if that’s the best way then i’m all ears. my guess is they probably try a little of both – but they will probably sit in their shell because that seems to be what they are comfortable with. Try and force mistakes by making him checkdown i guess…..
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by J2 on Sep 23, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Do the Bills use the zone blitz at all?
Bring the pressure from totally unexpected places, and drop linemen into the passing lanes. Keep two safeties deep or you’re dead. Do this, and maybe you’ll confuse Drew enough to make him ineffective on one drive.
Or, follow the Patriots’ game plan against the Rams, and just smack the snot out of both him and his receivers every chance you get. And hope it works.
I’m sorry, I’m not trying to be cocky…but hell, I don’t know how to stop the Saints, either.
Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston
You don’t sound cocky – not to me, at least.
Yeah, Buffalo zone blitzes on occasion, but not anywhere near often.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 24, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Zone v. Man
That will be a HUGE condition. Whether the Bills play that cover-two (which they were in for both Watson TDs) or man-to-man.
If they in zone, that’s when the TEs, by the way don’t sleep on Dave Thomas, will sit down in holes for short gains. Couple that with play action, now that SP actually calls run plays, and it puts the Bills’ LBs in a difficult spot.
If you man up, Colston is 6’3", Meachem is 6’2" and your tallest starting CB is what 5’11"?Bad matchup for you. You try to press and let Devery and Lance speed down the field on seam routes. Another bad matchup.
My biggest concern is your running game against our front seven. With or without Lynch, although I’m glad he’s not playing.
by WhoDat_OH on Sep 23, 2009 3:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm SO psyched right now
i am WAY on board!!! seriously… i can’t shake the feeling that it’s TOTALLY feasible for us to 19-0.
Come on ride the train
The choo-choo train….Sing it with me! (Wasn’t there a song or something back in the 80’s??) Oh well, I am on aboard. WHO DAT
by WhoDatPHaltnMD on Sep 23, 2009 10:47 AM CDT reply actions
Redskins fan here
I gotta say I’m pretty envious. Not only are you guys winning, but it’s pretty electric. Thanks for taking the Eagles down a couple pegs. I’ll be pulling for ya’ll until Dec. 6.
Our pleasure
Does Gregg Williams usually start off the year slowly and then crank up the heat? Because we’re wondering if this is the sum total of improvement we can expect. I’d rather our opponents didn’t break 20 every game.
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that's what I was thinking
But I’m sure he’s not satisfied. He’s not even not pissed.
"That's a done dollar." -#94
what i was thinking
and we all need to remember that we’re still trying to find our defensive groove. We’ve looked good so far but I think we can do better. This is still a new defensive identity for us and it will still take a little getting use to to reach max potential.
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by skinnykinney on Sep 23, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Woot!
Glad I’m not the only one breathing that rarified air.
by janepriceestrada on Sep 23, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions
Good Words, Dave - it makes for a more enjoyable ride to shoot for the moon
Just read the “Why Not Us?” piece by Layden on si.com
It could happen.
And I may adopt Alfred E. Neuman’s catchphrase along the way – “What, me worry?”
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Want to jump on
And living in Seattle, i wam true to my saints, but i also have a good long memory of my 35 years being alive. After the Giants game on week 6, i will make my reservation for Miami. till then , i am proud like always of my home town team
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by Dave Cariello on Sep 23, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Not quite ready to chant "SOOPerbowl Saints"
But just the same, let’s roll.
"That's a done dollar." -#94
2-0
is a great way to start the season. The best way, actually. The only thing that’s keeping me from unrelenting “fandemonium” (I like that word) is that we haven’t had to come from behind to win a game yet— while it would be awesome to pound teams every week like we have so far, don’t know if we realistically can expect that, so I’m anxious to see what happens in a close game. If we can win a close one—especially one where we are trailing—then I’ll let loose. I know we can do it—Brees was awesome the past few seasons in the 4th qtr (quick, someone find that stat!), but once we win a really competitive game, then I’ll become the freakin conductor of the train.
like you said
i’m all for pounding other teams early and often. i’m not sure who, at this point, will create that sort of tight game. philly was in the mix the first half and then completely broke down in the second.
So help me Christ...
Look, can we just put a moratorium on all the “Super Bowl Saints” or “I’m booking my flight to Miami” talk until they actually, you know, GET to Miami?
Sincerely,
A guy who worked at WWL-TV when their braintrust had the oh-so-brilliant idea of running a “Black and Gold to the Super Bowl” campaign BEFORE the NFC Championship against the Bears. Combine that with the rest of the local media jumping on the “Saints in the Super Bowl” bandwagon and we just totally pissed on karma’s legs.
I love the fact that the Saints are crushing teams and I want to see them go 18-0 like everyone else, but we have to try and temper this.
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by hakimdropstheball on Sep 23, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions
haha
That WAS my philosophy the entire year. Until today. Screw it!
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by Dave Cariello on Sep 23, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
im with you on that
i’ve pretty much committed my fanhood to all or nothing… though it’s early… it looks like ALL for the saints!
I agree that if any of us work for WWL-TV,
we should urge them not to run any Superbowl campaigns until it’s a sure thing.
But if we’re random fans…what’s the worst that can happen?
by GlackAndBold on Sep 23, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You got my vote
I’m steering clear of any gilded bandwagons until we clench a playoff berth. If it was made in New Orleans, be certain that the wheels could fall off at any second.
I will say, the pro football prognosticator’s gangbang of the Saints’ chances of winning rolls on, unabated. For the second week in a row, I’ve heard the various football braintrusts declare the Saints’ opponent the “upset” winner. Can’t blame them really, declaring that the Saints will lose a game they should win sounds like a pretty safe “longshot” bet most of the time, but I don’t think there’s an amount of points New Orleans can score to get out from under an across-the-board prediction of failure until they play Tampa. In fact, if La Canfora picks us against either NY, I’m pulling out the rosary, because it might all be over shortly thereafter.
Spoken (typed) like a long-time Saints fan
I don’t believe in curses or anything like that, so I don’t mind getting excited. I’ll be the first to agree that Super Bowl talk at this point is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay premature. We’re only 2-0. Still, this is the most exciting start that any Saints team has ever gotten off to, so I’ll enjoy it for as long as it lasts. I’m not foolish enough to expect an easy win in Buffalo either.
"He has got a good ol' boy sense of humor, but he has also got a good ol' boy sense of kick you in the ass, too,"--Gregg Williams describing Bill Johnson. The D WILL ROCK THIS YEAR!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 23, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sick of cringing
Karma OWES us. Big time. We’ve been fate’s whipping boy for four decades. It’s time to sit in the first class car for a change.
Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston
by MtnExile on Sep 23, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Word.
It’s OUR turn folks.
Everyone else, IN THE BACK OF THE BUS, NOW!
GEAUX SAINTS
Irony: An atheist Saints fan.
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 23, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
"He has got a good ol' boy sense of humor, but he has also got a good ol' boy sense of kick you in the ass, too,"--Gregg Williams describing Bill Johnson. The D WILL ROCK THIS YEAR!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 23, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
and that gets a rec.
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
by skinnykinney on Sep 23, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
No, you're right...
I confused myself on the records thing, knowing that the Saints would get the bye if they went undefeated. Yeah, it’s 19-0.
"Gowin on fourth and 14 will punt it away. He hangs it very high, angling it for the near sideline...HAKIM DROPS THE BALL!!! HAKIM DROPS THE BALL!! Brian Milne might've fallen on it at the ten yard line! It's the New Orleans Saints' football! Brian Milne, the most unlikely hero of them all, falls on the fumble, the muff by Hakim! There is a God after all!" -- Jim Henderson
by hakimdropstheball on Sep 24, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
"How many championships ya'll won"
I don’t know how many times I hear that around here. I can’t wait til the day in early february when I can show them my middle finger and say we got one!
Who Dat!
by saints fan in cowboyland! on Sep 23, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions
same could be said of the Colts
in 2006. Everyone’s got to get one sometime if you stay around long enough(i hope :D).
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
by skinnykinney on Sep 23, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHA!!!
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by Dave Cariello on Sep 23, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear ya!
I’m a Saints fan in Cowboy land too! And all my friends are Cowboy fans. It sucks because when we’ve kicked their ass the past, I don’t know what it is, 5 or 6 times we’ve played, I can’t say anything because they always come with that crap, “How many championships have you won”, or, “Get some skins on the wall then you can talk!” So I’m with you. When we finally win one I’m sticking my middle finger high in the air and screaming, “WE GOT ONE!”
Ready to Crush
All the Life long ney sayers under my band wagon wheels on our way to a superbowl three peat. Well three might be a stretch but it can happen. Take no prisoners , show no mercy. We will feast on the guts of our opponents. Arrh.
lyle is gangsterrrrr
hahahhaahaha
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As a Saints fan since about 1990, it’s a very good feeling right now, but…we’ve been down this road before. Going 5-0, not making the playoffs…9-4 with Haslett and failing to win once in three tries against garbage teams…the Saints have been the darlings of September for years, so while I’m excited about the big wins thusfar, there’s a lot more work to do.
Buffalo has the ability to surprise people, and if Bell can’t go, this one could be tougher than it looks on paper. I’ve seen two games in Ralph Wilson Stadium and it’s intimidating. Given, this is in September and not the freezing craziness I endured twice in December, but it’s a tough road game nonetheless.
I guess I got off track…I tend to do that. My point is, 2-0 is not 13-3 or 12-4. It’s simply 2 for 2. Let’s stay excited but focused.
Heart, Max Talbot has it by the mile. The Pens are your 2008-2009 Stanley Cup Champions.
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by Dave Cariello on Sep 23, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Giants fan here
but the Saints def. fall into my “good guys” column (my gf is from NOLA originally and is a big Saints fan, so ive become one by proxy). Anyway, love what you guys did to the Eagles. Soak it up. The Saints look pretty damn good right now. Hopefully they keep this up, at least until the Giants come to town… After that though, i’m back with you guys. Best of luck.
Payback
for ‘05 home game @NY. Not much left on the team from "05, but for me, that’s the most important single game of the year. I’d feel good about it, too, if it weren’t for the Giants’ front 4 pressure. If NY can jostle Brees without giving up coverage, I could be looking at a heartbreaker. That said, we owe New York, from my unforgiving perspective.
I had great seats for that game.
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by Dave Cariello on Sep 24, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I remember that game
It really was unfair how the NFL played that out. That being said, the Giants gladly took advantage of it just as any other team would. They did, however, donate quite a bit after that to the Katrina relief fund. In any event it should be a great agme and i’m looking forward to it probably more than any other game this season. Should be fun.
i feel like it will be our first
close game. I think with Buffalo and the Jets we can win by 10+ but I know that they could do that too. I look for the Giants game to be a TD or less either way. I just hope that Brees has a good game because I don’t expect us to run the ball very efficiently.
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
by skinnykinney on Sep 24, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to be a douche,
but it was the Giants’ prerogative, I believe. A similar situation(in terms of homefield availability) occurred a few years earlier in a game, and the teams played in a third location(Arizona, I believe). I can’t remember the details, but I know it was a reasonable template for that game situation. Great news for y’all, really just added a little suck cherry on the “how much does God hate us” pie for New Orleans(or my miserable ass, at least). I for one want a NY shutout, replete with season-ending injuries for key skill players, but I’ll swallow my ire and make due with a nail-biter win. Seriously, though, New York looks really tough this year so far. I’m pretty afraid of that one. Trying to get to town for it, though. I’d love to be in the dome that weekend.
well...
I for one hope no one gets injured, especially if both teams are still heavy favorites in their respective divisions. I do, howeber, hope the Giants come away with a convincing win because, in the event that its a playoff preview, i’d like to know that they can handle Brees and that passing game. The most similar situation they faced last year was probably against the cards, and that was a 37-29 win for the G-men. I’d like to see if they can do a bit better this year. Hopefully their saftey situation is back in order by then so we can see both teams at full strength.
I was at the game
against the Cowboys on Sunday night (Opening of Jerry’s world) and the Giants look pretty good but like us they still have question marks. I think by the time the Giants go to New Orleans those questions will be answered. Whether we like the answers or not is yet to be seen. I’ll be at that game which I think will be the 5-0 Giants against the 4-0 Saints and a preview to a playoff game later on this year. It should be a good one. Good luck to y’all as well daveh873.
you must be laughing
if you saw that the Eagls are working out Jeremiah Trotter!!! Talk about desperate!! The eagles LBs suck……and their fans are chirping about ho good they are, Gocong, Gaither, etc. They are really weak there – very exploitable. Maybe they just wanted to get Trot in the news to get the fans off Reid’s back re: Vick, getting thrashed, Kolg, Westbrook’s injury etc.
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