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Cardinals Win Shootout in Overtime; Next Stop New Orleans

The matchup is now set. The Saints will take on the Cardinals this Saturday in the Superdome after Arizona narrowly defeated the Green Bay Packers this evening.

Kurt Warner and Aaron Rodgers went punch for punch during this high-scoring showdown between their respective teams but defense was no where to be seen by either side. Ironically, in the end, it was defense that came up big to win the game for Arizona.

From our perspective as Saints fans, I think playing the Cardinals is probably the best case scenario. We know the Saints offense can keep up with anyone in the league; I'm not afraid of getting into a shootout. But with two weeks rest and a defense back at full strength, the Saints should be able to return to early season form and slow down the Cardinals high-powered aerial attack just enough to earn their ticket to the NFC Championship. Jabari Greer, Tracy Porter, Darren Sharper and Roman Harper, I'm looking at all of you. 

So this is it! Bring on the birds! Early thoughts on the big game this Saturday?

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My Kingdom for a Defense

What an epic…I’m still in shock after that insta-classic down in the desert.

As far as next week goes, I see that for the Saints to win not only do they need to shut down the Kurt Warner Extravaganza, they also need to find balance in their offense to keep Arizona off the field too. Green Bay got virtually no heat on Warner all game long, so pass rushing will be at a premium, assuming we can find some.

People with high-blood pressure should consult their doctor and ask if they're healthy enough for Saints activity before rooting for this team.

by Malsby on Jan 10, 2010 7:26 PM CST reply actions  

Short version? I hope like heck you are correct.

If we can get a pass rush, we’ll have a very good chance. If not, not sure.

Yeah, Arizona can run. But not that well. And since chuckwagon couldn’t rush the passer, if we can replace him with somebody who can, we’ll improve our chances. We’ll still have to play gap discipline because no team is completely incompetent at rushing and Arizona isn’t even close to incompetent. But a good pass rush can disturb Warner and that’s good enough to give us a chance.

by FriarBob on Jan 10, 2010 7:36 PM CST reply actions  

what's the over/under

on guessing the over/under correctly?

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by Dave Cariello on Jan 11, 2010 1:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Striker, what can you make of this?

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 11, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

what's your vector, victor?

roger, roger.

I can make a hat, a pterydactyl, or a broach…

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

by Hans Petersen on Jan 11, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

BoDog's O/U is 57.5

I’ll take the over, since I predict 42 – 28… Saints, of course, but had to say it.

Saints fan in DFW. Saints go all the way... I BELIEVE!

by Dan Kelly on Jan 13, 2010 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope our defensive backfield rediscovers it’s early-season form, but I think this game will hinge on the play of the lines. Getting pressure on Kurt(finally, a rematch with our venerable playoff foe!), and keeping Drew clean. I think our run defense can get a big boost in this game, too. While Hightower and Wells are solid, they’re no NFC South running attack. Best-case scenario for us!

"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas

by FuSoYa on Jan 10, 2010 7:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

First one to 100 wins

What this game did show me was that if we get down early, no one need to worry. Sorry Rodgers but our offense is better and look what GB did to get back in that game, no reason we won’t put up points on zona.

For some reason I have this weird feeling we will shut them down. I can see a game like the Pats on MNF. 2 high powered offenses with the big hype going into the game and then we shut them down. Maybe bc i’m a homer but thats my gut feeling right now.

by touchdown my pants on Jan 10, 2010 7:49 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Heavy legs

That is why a first round bye is so important. It’s going to be hard for AZ to recover physically from an OT barnburner and face a fresh number one seed on the road six days later. Played into our hands perfectly.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 10, 2010 7:55 PM CST reply actions  

Correct Sir,

Cards can’t top that performance back to back weeks.

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Jan 10, 2010 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

anyone happy

that we play saturday now. That worked out great. the last team to win this weekend plays the first game on the road against the 1 seed with 2 weeks off. that sounds fair to me.

by touchdown my pants on Jan 10, 2010 7:58 PM CST reply actions  

We're gonna be A OK.

Sharper’s gonna be roaming in the defensive backfield.

We’re gonna blitz early (LB’s only please) and rattle Warner.

PT is gonna be rolling.

And Brees is gonna do what he does.

And, prediction, Hargrove is gonna step up and have a big game in Grant’s absence.

Saints fan in DFW. Saints go all the way... I BELIEVE!

by Dan Kelly on Jan 10, 2010 7:59 PM CST reply actions  

As it is in every game, the key will be TOP. For as much back and forth as there was in the Arizona-Green Bay game — and despite never having the ball it OT — the Cardinals won TOP. In fact, all four wild card round winners won TOP, the other three more convincingly, all with a more comfortable margin of victory to show for it. All four winners also won the turnover battle as well, which plays into TOP. All four winners gained more overall yards than their opponent. All four winners had more first downs. Again, all of that plays into TOP. Three of the four winners rushing for more yards than their opponent. The only one that didn’t (Jets) tied. Want to take a guess what rushing the ball leads to? Better offensive balance is important. But more important than TOP? Nope. Of the more balanced teams, two won, two lost. Three of the four losers passed for more yards. That should spell out what it’s going to take to win at this level. A running attack. A three and out defense (in order to get the ball back as often as possible), an opportunistic defense (to possibly get it back in even better field position (not necessary, though definitely a welcomed bonus) and an efficient offensive attack that is going to score every time we have ball and — more importantly, RUN THAT CLOCK. Arizona isn’t beating us with Kurt Warner on the sidelines, I guarantee you that. Get into another 96 point shootout and it’s difficult to imagine Brees having any better a game than the one we just saw out of Aaron Rodgers. Let’s not emulate the team that just lost to them. Let’s try something more fundamentally sound — and unexpected (from a Saints team) — to nail down this victory.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 8:06 PM CST reply actions  

Good thoughts

Green Bay basically got suckered into a track meet. I know some folks on the radio show welcomed the thought of doing the same believing that we can win a track meet with Arizona – and perhaps we can – but loading up the guns and charging head first isn’t the best answer here.

The Saints need to do what they do best, mix it up on offense and grind out a win. The defense doesn’t need to be great to win, just adequate. What does need to happen is exactly what you said, time of possession. Control the line and the clock, and you can win any game in the NFL.

People with high-blood pressure should consult their doctor and ask if they're healthy enough for Saints activity before rooting for this team.

by Malsby on Jan 10, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Amen. If there’s a tip drill or strip that winds up getting run back for a TD, or gives us a little better field position to work with, that’s awesome. Let’s not DEPEND on that to win. Three and out … get Pierre, Reggie, Jeremy and Lance out there … and start chipping away. Score a TD, kickoff … lather, rinse, repeat. Five or six clock managed drives like that and the game’s pretty much in the bag. I saw nothing tonight that says Arizona can stop that type of offense. I definitely saw all sorts of evidence that they can match an offensive minded team tit for tat in a shootout. Don’t give them the chance.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Turnovers

GB and NE both turned the ball over 4 TIMES. Philly may have been even more.
You saw these games. It wasn’t a game of keep away until sizable leads had already been established. GB and NE were both down 14 points in the first three minutes before TOP had a chance to have any bearing. The winning teams got up so far so fast that they were then allowed the luxury of burning the clock, while their opponent did not as they desperately tried to pass their way back into the game.
So, here we go again with the chicken and the egg discussion.
I’m not saying you are wrong about TOP in general, but it was obvious what led to victories in these instances. With that in mind, balance is always good.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 10, 2010 8:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

And I’d add that TOP is as much about playing good Defense as it is about the offense being balanced.

by mainesaint on Jan 11, 2010 8:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely it is.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 11, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

TOP vs. Tempo

What are your thoughts on this offense, how they play and how they are built and setting the “tempo” vs. actually possessing the football for longer than the other team? I think a good example of this would be the New England game where the Pats held onto the ball for almost 7 minutes longer than the Saints. Offensively, I don’t know that the Saints have ever been more efficient. 26 rushes for 113 yards and 26 minutes TOP. They took multiple shots down the field at varying stages of the game and really only ran with frequency towards the end of the game. Maybe games like that this are the exception, but to me, that’s how this offense is built. They set the tempo and made the Pats play their game.

by mainesaint on Jan 11, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

No offense in the NFL is “built” without TOP in mind. That may not be particularly evident, due to lack of clock management and/or lack of execution in a particular game — and even then those shortcomings aren’t synonymous with the kiss of death — but there is a very, very strong corrulation between losing and coming up on the short end of the clock.

In the case of the Patriots game, the Saints’ efficiency on offense still contributed heavily to their overall TOP. Just because they didn’t have the MAJORITY (30:01+) of the clock pie, doesn’t mean those TOP-friendly factors didn’t behoove them.

Another thing to keep in mind is that clock management is not synonymous with running the ball. Clock management is keeping the clock moving, as much as possible. Minimizing your opponent’s scoring opportunities (in terms of overall number of snaps within that 60 minute window of game play) by moving the chains. In throwing only 5 incompletions all game - and, more importantly, in scoring on 6 out of their 10 offensive possessions - Brees was doing just that through the air.

Not quite to the extent that they might have had the Patriots not totally blown their coverage on the Henderson TD, for example. Or had the Saints rushed 40 times, or had they dinked and dunked it down the field, still scoring on 60% of their drives. Had they done that, the game would have likely even been a BIGGER blowout. Why? Because the Patriots wouldn’t have had enough time to rush the ball 28 times themselves. Maroney scored 14 of their 17 points. If Belichick is feeling particularly pressed for time, he’s likely not getting the ball much more often than Ryan Grant did against the Cardinals.

Now, knowing the quick strike capabilities of Tom Brady, maybe that doesn’t make a bit of difference. He could have probably hung 17 on our defense while under the gun pretty easily regardless, but generally speaking, the average NFL quarterback is NOT going to operate as efficiently up against the clock as he would with 33 or so cumulative minutes to work with. Obviously, that doesn’t typically manifest itself into an clear cut up-against-the-clock situation until about midway through the 4th quarter, but if that QB had that same sense of urgency earlier (like Rodgers appeared to last night) maybe that ominous lead is back to a whoever-gets-the-ball-last-wins shootout by the time the middle of the 4th rolls around. Again, it all depends on how you manage the clock THROUGHOUT the game, not just in certain instances.

The bottom line being that particular teams don’t inherently control the tempo of games, particular playcalling (and the proper execution of said playcalling) leads to extended TOP, which in turn controls the tempo of games. That being said, a team comprised of nothing but speed burner WRs and/or misfit toy RBs that average in the neighborhood of three yards per carry, is never going to win consistently in the NFL. You DO need at least a certain level of surehandedness and talent at the individual level, in order to maintain drives. Are the Saints “built” to control the tempo in that sense? Of course. And so is every other team in the NFL.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 11, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Ignore the strike out.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 11, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

From the Patriots perspective, they held the ball nearly seven minutes longer, yet all but three of those drives netted zero points. That’s the reason they lost the game. If they score on 60% of their drives — just as the Saints did — chances are they win outright. The Saints were 123% more efficient with their 26 minutes of TOP than the Patriots were with their 34. That’s not something you’re going to see with any degree of regularity in the NFL. They were just just clicking on all cylinders that night.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 11, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, make that 23% more efficient (or 123% as efficient). Poorly worded.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 11, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

5 days

That’s how many days rest the Cardinals will get after this shootout. Plus, the Cards have been up and down all season so we have no way of knowing which Cardinals team will show up. If it’s the good one, the Saints had better bring their A-game. The Cards D can be much more effective than they were tonight. They certainly shut the Vikings down. That said, this may be the perfect scenario for our Saints. I like that they’re going against the Cardinals. I would have preferred the Eagles and their injury-depleted O-line, but this will do.

Ya hear that sound? That’s the sound of Payton and his staff at this very moment game-planning for the Cardinals. I hope they get it right. With the time off and the mini training camp they had this weekend to polish up their fundamentals, I think they’ll come out strong like they did against the Pats, Giants, Eagles, Lions, Jets, etc., etc. I’m liking this matchup.

"I said this early on that this was a good football team, they just maybe had to have a stick put in certain parts of their body to play a little harder in certain places to where we’re able to take interceptions and score touchdowns."--Gregg Williams

by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 10, 2010 8:15 PM CST reply actions  

if the packers had come back to win that game...

I would’ve been really worried. They were the team I didn’t want anyway. If, after the worst possible defensive performance they could muster, they won anyway I would have extremely concerned. The cardinals are very capable, but I’ll take my chances. Besides, what are the chances that Warner has that kind of performance again – right?

by SaintBevo on Jan 10, 2010 8:22 PM CST reply actions  

Kurt warner

Is overdue for a interception

by jeremysherwin on Jan 10, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

and a fumble lost

Saints fan in DFW. Saints go all the way... I BELIEVE!

by Dan Kelly on Jan 13, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Towards the end, I was actually pulling for the Packers, because they had lost their LT to what looked like a serious injury. I figured if they somehow managed to pull it off, it would bode better for us, but what are you gonna do? At least Arizona doesn’t use the TE much. Finley would have eaten Shanle and Harper’s lunch.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Not a factor now.

The Brees, Woodso matchup was not one i confortable with, now that he is out of the equation i fell more confident in the next game

by jeremysherwin on Jan 10, 2010 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I don’t know who they are gonna line up on Colston and Meachem. I figure they’ll line up Cromartie on Deverey, and he’s the only above average corner talent wise. Does anyone know if Moore will be back?

by ReggieVilma on Jan 11, 2010 1:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Moore was limited in practice...

probably a game time decision.

I think we’ll be ok if Shiockey and Bush are there to mix things up.

Saints fan in DFW. Saints go all the way... I BELIEVE!

by Dan Kelly on Jan 13, 2010 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Same

Green Bay would have prevented us with more challenges defensively, I believe. Grant is a runner that would have forced us to ease off on the blitz and pass coverage. I just think that Arizona is more of a one-trick pony. They throw. They throw a lot. They throw to WR’s. Stop them from doing that and win.

People with high-blood pressure should consult their doctor and ask if they're healthy enough for Saints activity before rooting for this team.

by Malsby on Jan 10, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty much. Unfortunately, we’re not much more than a 1.2 trick pony ourselves. Should be a great matchup.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

if PT is healthy, I think we have a legitimate running game

assuming that Payton uses it – which i think he will. I believe that some of the soul searching over the last week will reveal that we were at our best early in the season when we played with balance on O and used all 3 RBs.

by SaintBevo on Jan 10, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

If PT and Reggie can play and be effective we’re like…a pony and a half. There was a time that our running game was one of the league’s best. That left Brees with off-balance coverage a lot of the time.

Don’t get me wrong, Brees is still going to need to step up and deliver, but I believe we’ve got more to offer.

People with high-blood pressure should consult their doctor and ask if they're healthy enough for Saints activity before rooting for this team.

by Malsby on Jan 10, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with that. PT and Reggie on screens could prove to be huge. We haven’t used either of them nearly often enough this year in that capacity. We’ve been speculating all year about Payton not showing all his cards in the regular season. Well, this is it. This is when you start rolling out the new wrinkles. Especially the ones that are congruent with a ball control offense. We haven’t faced a team closer to our mirror image all season, nor will we the rest of the way (unless we play the Colts … then it’s debatable).

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I was with you CP

GB lost their LT and I think AZ actually has better playmakers, not to mention a playoff experienced QB. But I’m cool with it.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 10, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Arizona got lucky

The last play in OT should have been a personal foul for the hit on rodgers

by jeremysherwin on Jan 10, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Arizona would have still had the ball. The facemask came after the strip.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought any "roughing the passer" or illegal blow to the head-type calls

negate results of plays and give the offense the ball plus first downs and yardage..

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

by Hans Petersen on Jan 10, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

the only reason i was mad

is because i wanted GB to win with the injuries the game caused them

by jeremysherwin on Jan 10, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

No, it depends on if it was before or after the loss of possession. Same thing happened on the Vilma helmet to helmet hit on Eli in the Giants game that overturned the pick six. The difference being that the foul occurred before possession was lost. Contact was made while the ball was in the air. On a fumble, possession is technically lost when he lets go of the ball and either regained or recovered thereafter. That’s why you have forced fumbles and recovered fumbles. If only CHANGES of possession mattered statistically, then they wouldn’t keep track of the former.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 8:59 PM CST up reply actions  

What happened to Rodgers also happened to Brees against the Falcons, if I remember correctly. Personal foul a split second after the ball came free. Probably should have been called in both cases, but it wouldn’t have overturned the fumble either time.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Except for the fact that it was BEFORE the ball came free. But if it had been after, then yeah.

by FriarBob on Jan 10, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Finley is a beast

Yeah, I’m kinda glad we won’t have to face him and Rodgers. The Cards can carve you up in different ways, so it’s not that much better. Finley has established himself as one of the top TE’s in the league. He’ll be huge next year.

"I said this early on that this was a good football team, they just maybe had to have a stick put in certain parts of their body to play a little harder in certain places to where we’re able to take interceptions and score touchdowns."--Gregg Williams

by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 10, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep. Seems like Green Bay has always done a commendable job playing up their TEs. Ed West, Mark Chmura, Bubba Franks, David Martin … none of those guys have ever did anything anywhere else.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Finley was a freak at Texas

He was underutilized in our offense (it was Colt McCoy;s soph year whe he struggled) and left probably a year earlier than he should’ve (economic hardship I think) otherwise I think he would’ve been a 1st round pick

by SaintBevo on Jan 10, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

SaintBevo

Sorry about the BCS game. If McCoy doesn’t get knocked out at the start of the game, no question UT wins.

by Drew-Dat on Jan 10, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

I think so too, but you never know how things go. It was nice to see them play their hearts out and make a run.

Of course, that means that my fragile psyche is slmost completly in the hands of the saints. Dangerous…

by SaintBevo on Jan 10, 2010 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I had him in FF much of the year. He’s definitely a formidable receiving threat, when healthy. Glad we won’t have to face him. Fitzgerald, Boldin, Breaston, Doucet, Urban, Hightower, Well, Stephen-Howling … that’s enough weapons to worry about already.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Our plate will be full

Two words: Matt Leinart
I would never wish injury during the game on anybody. I’m just saying.
Of course the antidote is also only two words: Mark Brunell

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 10, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL true. St. Pierre vs Daniel, if you’re feeling uber masochistic.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Thinking the same thing

when the GB LT went down. But besides Finley being a bad match for our LB’s,A. Rodgers likes to pull it down and run, something Warner doesn’t bring. Gotta get in his face…!!!!

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Jan 10, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Thx Mr.Seinfeld

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Jan 11, 2010 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Rush Defense

Is the Achillies heel of the New Orleans Saints.
So many times has this plagued them this year. This will be the most important stat of the postseason.
If the saints can have a great game defending the run, Kurt Warner would be forced to go against the best underrated Secondary of the NFC. This will lead to turnovers, and home teams that win the TO ratio statistical 93+% chance of winning their games.

In addition if the Defensive line stops the run now it will dramatically change opponents game plans against us.

One thing to think about is the 24 hour NFL rule. This rule makes every team rest for 24 hours before practice
They will only have 3 days to practice before the saturday. Tuesday Wednesday, and thursday are going to be padded practice days. Friday will be walkthrough and saturday will be the game.

Three practice days to defend against the saints, well that does not sound like a lot of time to get things going.
Especially when they have not played the saints all year long.

by jeremysherwin on Jan 10, 2010 8:23 PM CST reply actions  

I have a nagging feeling,

the final score will look more like a basketball game, and whoever scores last wins. Playing the clock may just win the game.

Who dat, from a cajun exiled to cowboy country.

by alcoholic_insight on Jan 10, 2010 8:24 PM CST reply actions  

Not so much

Keep in mind we wil get our entire secondary back to include a healthy darren sharper and J Greer and Porter.
The saints have not lost a game this year with their entire starting secondary.

The saints will stop the run so much it will force warner to throw more passes. Greer and Porter will handle up on their positions, which leaves Warner with our nickle back to tangle with. Whoever plays nickle either it be Jenkins or Harper

by jeremysherwin on Jan 10, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

true enough

good answer

Who dat, from a cajun exiled to cowboy country.

by alcoholic_insight on Jan 10, 2010 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Which nickle should we stick on Breaston?

He’s pretty quick isn’t he? Would Jenkins knock him around a little on the line?

by ReggieVilma on Jan 11, 2010 2:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it will be a great game...

We need to click on offense – methodical drives that end in TDs and take time off the clock. Shockey catching some crucial 3rd down passes to keep the chains moving.

Defense that makes it hard for them to move the ball – stuff the run and/or rattle Warner into bad throws. Getting the ball back in the hands of our offense early and often. It’d be nice if Sharper/Greer could get a couple of turnovers.

We need to build a lead so that if we have some defensive or special teams breakdowns as the game wears on, they won’t cost us the game, as they have in the past.

WHO DAT!

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

by Hans Petersen on Jan 10, 2010 8:41 PM CST reply actions  

Early season form...

Does this refer to when we were playing Detroit, an Eagles back-up QB, a Buffalo team who just fired their whole staff, the rookie Sanchez, or the disastrous Giants?

Or are we collectively referring to the teams swept up in our winning streak after that (Miami, Atlanta, Carolina, St.Louis, Tampa, Patriots, Redskins and Falcons)? Teams that scored on average 22 pts a game on us?

My point is this. Early we were fortunate to play offensively challenged teams. We got ahead early and made the other team one-dimensional. During the middle season, our offense operated at a super-natural level, bailing out uneven defensive performances.

During the last month our offense has been pedestrian. Call me chicken little but I’m very worried about this game…

by TigerPaw on Jan 10, 2010 8:55 PM CST reply actions  

of course you're worried, you're a saints fan

getting ahead and making the other team one-dimensional is what we do when we’re at our best. I compare us to a basketballl team that likes to run and press. Teams try to keep us at a slower pace, but eventually they get caught up in the frenetic atmosphere and before they knowit, they’re playing our game. Pats game is a case in point – they run the ball down our throat on the first drive, but we score a few times and they start to worry that they can’t keep up and abandon the running game almost completely.

by SaintBevo on Jan 10, 2010 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

The trouble with that ideology is that OUR game IS the Cardinals’ game. We’re NOT going to force them out of their element by getting into a shootout with them.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

At least, no moreso than they’re going to foce us out of ours by jumping out to a 17 point lead (or more) again.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

true

I agree that we need to change it up and coontrol the clock a little more

by SaintBevo on Jan 10, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I concur

we got the stable to do it!

by ReggieVilma on Jan 11, 2010 2:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I completely, completely, COMPLETELY agree with you. That’s why I’m not putting too much faith in turnovers or the defense as a whole. They’re extremely pedestrian, in my mind. The definition of hit or miss. I’d much rather rely on a ball control offense to control the tempo, under the presumption that we’re going to give up a TD just about every time we take the field on defense, not unlike the Packers. Remember, Green Bay actually forced more turnovers than us this past season and Arizona only coughed it up once. If they do indeed match us tit for tat, maybe they’ll be pressed for time at the end of the half or regulation and Warner will make a boo-boo. Or maybe we happen to force a three and out somewhere along the way. Would a three and out of our own do anything to capitalize on that? Of course not. We need to move the chains methodically and be sure to make EVERY DRIVE COUNT. That will be of the utmost importance in this game. Let’s face it, no one saw that Dansby play coming. For all intents and purposes, what Aikman said was true. Whoever won that coin toss was going to win that game. The Cardinals just lucked out. I don’t want to have to rely on luck.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Dear Cardinals: I hate you.

Also does anyone actually think that Kurt Warner is retiring after this season? He’s making bank. He’s thought of as a top qb. And he might as well keep playing. This is all just leverage to get a bigger contract. But now do we have to have Warner retirement bs every year just like Favre?

by xen-cuts on Jan 10, 2010 10:13 PM CST reply actions  

No to wish to much harm,

but maybe a blindside from Will “Giggyman” Smith this wk. might end the contract neg’s.

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Jan 10, 2010 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I would never put Warner in the same category as Favre.

Warner is a very religious and dedicated family man. I think he would put his family first and not run the risk of being a concussed piece of broccoli sitting on the front porch swing.

Favre, on the other hand, is a one-man soap opera starring Brett Favre. Produced by Brett Favre. Directed by Brett Favre. Key Grip, Brett Favre. Best Boy, Brett Favre. Caterer, Brett Favre. (You do see where I’m going with this, right?)

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 11, 2010 1:20 AM CST up reply actions  

But also...

…Favre has never had a serious injury, and Warner has. If Warner really puts his family and future first, rather than his “competitive nature,” he’ll retire after having another concussion this year. With Favre, that’s not a worry. He’ll be fine.

BURN THE BLACK PANTS!!!

by MtnExile on Jan 11, 2010 7:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I've given Warner crap in the past

But it’s unfair to compare him to Favre. He even said this week, when he does make the decision it’ll be “definitive.” I believe him. I’m with JND on this one. There’s really no comparision. To my knowledge, Warner hasn’t even brought the topic up. It’s all been speculation.

by Jimbo03 on Jan 11, 2010 8:26 AM CST up reply actions  

JND - I love your take on Favre.

My thoughts exactly. He used to be one of my favorite players of all time. Now, he tops my list of people in the NFL I don’t like. So much so that if I could dictate the future, I’d rather the Saints beat Brett’s team in the NFC Championship game than I would for them to do the same against Jerry Jones’ team. And, that’s saying a lot.

by Drew-Dat on Jan 11, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I am of the same opinion as BCS.

Arizona will be facing a short week after an extremely long track meet of a game and with the extra week to recoup for our Saints I tend to think it works in favor of the number 1 seed. Looking forward to Saturday’s game.

I wouldn't disagree by stealing it either though, you know...
we got the black masks on... we got to get out of here. Hopefully
the police don't catch us on the way out.---Roman Harper

by NOSFan4Life on Jan 10, 2010 10:28 PM CST reply actions  

did any of they're guys get pounded tho?

does a track meet neccesarily wear a team out that much after a couple of days? They are professional athletes, and I wouldn’t think they would be sore from running for more than a day or two.

by ReggieVilma on Jan 11, 2010 2:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Sore, no. But tired?

I’d think they’d be tired out mentally more than anything. Knowing they had to do the same thing all over again, on the road this time, against a better offense? That’s got to take something out of you.

On the other hand, maybe the Packers game was just the tune-up they needed. You never know.

BURN THE BLACK PANTS!!!

by MtnExile on Jan 11, 2010 7:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Destiny?

This season has been a roller coaster for us, and that thrill ride continues even as the Saints have a bye week. We started out with a bang and finished off on a very somber note, but the cards are in our hands now (pun not intended). We have had an extra week to get our guys healthy and try to return to the same form we had when we were peaking earlier in the season. Not to mention we are playing one of the most upsie-downsie teams in the NFL that are probably physically and mentally drained after a barnburner on their home field against one of the hottest teams in the league. The Cards had no defense in that game until OT, which really was kind of lucky. Look if our offense can get their heads straight, and the defense force some turnovers then we’re unstoppable in not only this game but every game. This team still has a lot to prove to us the fans and the fans all over the country. I think the 2 guys that are vital for our offense to succeed are Lance Moore and Pierre Thomas. If these guys can make even cameo appearances then our offense can be as potent as ever. The 3 important guys on defense are Will Smith so he can break old man Warner’s hip, Jon Vilma to do what he was made to do, LEAD, and Jabari Greer to make his case as being on elite corner in the league. We have all the tools on our side and all the advantages. All we have to do is put it together for 2 more weeks and we’re in the big one for the first time ever. I think we can do it as the underdog and bounce back from a bad streak of games. I’m expecting us to peak again.

Why not us? http://hornetshoops.blogspot.com/

by LocoSaint on Jan 10, 2010 10:30 PM CST reply actions  

the cards are one and a quarter dimensional

they are mostly pass happy, their run game is average at best. if the D line can stop their run, which they should be able to, and smith and hargrove and maybe mccray, can get a legit rush on warner, then we should have no problem on that side of the ball. i think the really big question is will our offense be back to its elite form. the last few games before the carolina game they were just off sync, if they are back on track after rest and this so-called mini training camp, then i think this game wont even be close. hopefully those losses at the end of the season lit a fire under their asses and theyre hungry again.

"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game

by saintsfan77 on Jan 11, 2010 12:14 AM CST reply actions  

I just think it is amusing to note that in this historic offensive shootout, it was defense that scored the winning touchdown!

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 11, 2010 1:21 AM CST reply actions  

Now we'll see

The Saints defense will allow the cardinals to score about 24 points our defense has been there all year (meaning they bent but didn’t break) and our offense backed off some in the last 2 games not counting Carolina and for good reason I hope
Now we’ll see if Payton has an offense plan that allows the Saints to score 38 or more points

by Deckape 69 on Jan 11, 2010 4:37 AM CST reply actions  

I totally agree with CP for once

Barn burners are fun to watch if you have nothing invested in the game. I’d much rather lean on our running game, which when clicking, I think is superior to AZ’s, and keep Warner off the field. Eating clock and taking their running game out of it early by grinding out scores will give our defense an advantage it may need against their passing attack.

In response to DK’s post, I personally love seeing Roman Harper blitz. His crazy huge neck makes him missle-shaped anyway.

by Jimbo03 on Jan 11, 2010 8:30 AM CST reply actions  

Rolle on Brees

"Let me tell you something, that dude is scary," Arizona free safety Antrel Rolle said of Rodgers. "We have a great defense, and we were up on him and ready to pounce, and he found ways to tear us apart. I don’t ever want to face him again in my life. I am dead serious. I’ll face Drew Brees any day of the week before I face him again."

I am going to laugh if Brees toasts his behind a couple times just for that statement.

by ~farengil~ on Jan 11, 2010 12:00 PM CST reply actions  

I’m sure there were a few Patriots CBs that would have rathered face Rodgers every day of the week, after Brees’s performance against them. Just a heat of the moment compliment was all that was.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 11, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

tweet

jeffduncantp

Brees downplayed A.Rolle’s comment: “That doesn’t affect the way I prepare. We’ll be ready to play.”

You may bury my body down by the highway side
So my old evil spirit can catch a Greyhound bus and ride.

by stujo4 on Jan 12, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Just now on NFLN...

Sideline reporter talking to Darnell Dockett after the game: “We all know how great it was to watch it, but how did it feel to play in this game?”

Dockett: “Exhausting…… exhausting…………………….. Exhausting.”

That’s where it’s at.

by Grandmaster Wang on Jan 11, 2010 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

I agree with everything everyone’s say’n & yes TOP is important & yes the turnover battle is important, anyone who plays or has played sports there entire life knows theres one thing that can be far more criticle than any & everything else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                  ( MOMENTUM )

Thats right… If our “D” goes out there on the 1st poss. & make big play or stop, then u can bet ur A$$ the offense is bring’n tha heat!!! If they can compliment & feed off one another, it’ll be a loooooong night for WHICH EVER TEAM CAN DO IT!!!

Geaux $a!nt’z

by RealDeal37 on Jan 11, 2010 3:19 PM CST reply actions  

i do not want to get in a shootout like that

i do not want to have a heart attack in the stands at age 28. that would be embarrassing. but i think that warner is going to have a hard time trying to match that performance in the place where 2 of his 3 playoff losses have come. hope the cards are tired after all that running around and scoring.

WHO DAT!

"How you climb the Mountain is just as important as how you get down the Mountain. And,so it is with life , which for many of us becomes a gigantic lesson. In the end it all comes down to one word. Grace . Its how you accept winning and loosing,Good Luck and Bad Luck, The Darkness and the Light.

- Jeremy Shockey (via Twitter)

by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 11, 2010 4:11 PM CST reply actions  

I think most of us remember 2001 against the rams

We jumped up early only to watch Warner and co. come roaring back like GB did yesterday. It took several years off my life. I’ll survive if we win it that way, but I hope it’s not close.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 11, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't want to get into that shootout either, but

we must note that Warner will have tens of thousands of Who Dat’s whispering sweet nothings in his ears every time he looks at his center’s butt! Didn’t have that noise at home this past weekend. Might make a difference.

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 12, 2010 12:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I have to share this with anyone who doesn't read Peter King's essays at SI web site.

Particularly because he seems to have never seen a bandwagon he didn’t want to jump on, I’m not sure why I read his stuff either. I guess it’s the same reason I respond to adamlawson’s posts. But….

Today King wrote that after the Cardinals/Packers game, he texted Greg Williams and asked what he thought of Warner’s performance. Of course, in his text, King had to add:

“It reminded me of the games we used to see Joe Montana slow his heart rate down and play the music in his head from Bill Walsh’s west coast offense. Kurt was in charge and playing a really fast game in slow motion in his mind. The game slowed down for him and his focus was strong.”

Williams response: “Very respectful and ready to play. Our guys are rested and ready to compete. Drew Brees is like that every day in practice.”

by Drew-Dat on Jan 11, 2010 5:36 PM CST reply actions  

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