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Arizona Cardinals 14 @ New Orleans Saints 45: The View from Section 140

You guys know that when I am wrong, I admit it. Earlier this season I thought the Saints would blow out the Miami Dolphins. I was wrong. Later in the year, I didn't see what all the fuss was about regarding the Saints playing the Patriots. Again, I was wrong. But after the Saints victory on Saturday afternoon over the Arizona Cardinals, I think I deserve to finally say that I was dead on balls accurate. It's an industry term.

So excuse me while I gloat a little. Was I not the one who started last week off with an article raising the possibility of Reggie being poised for a playoff push? I believe I was. Here is what I said in that post...

Maybe Payton has been purposely resting Reggie, keeping him locked away until the playoffs.

Here is what Reggie said after the game...

Our plan was to kind of get me to the postseason and make plays

Damn, I'm good! I thought I also did pretty well with my five keys to the game just before kickoff:

  1. Start off fast - Check
  2. Get pressure and rattle Warner - Check
  3. Don't turn the ball over - Check
  4. Match up well with offensive weapons - Pretty good
  5. Crowd needs to be 12th man - Check
I think it was Meatloaf who said four out of five ain't bad.

Finally, if you're a regular listener of our twice weekly radio show you would have also heard me say that the one thing we needed to see from the Saints during the post-season was a return to their early season form. A return to the way they played against teams like the Eagles, Jets and Giants which included many of my five keys above. Fast starts, key turnovers, good pressure, balanced run/pass attack and solid secondary play. Stick to those things and I believe the rest will naturally fall into place. 

And that's exactly what we saw from the Saints last night. This game had the exact same look and feel as many of those we watched in September and October, when the Saints could do no wrong and were the most dangerous team in the league. I loved those times; I'm glad they're back. The timing couldn't be more perfect.   

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  • I didn't think the crowd was too wild during the walk up to the dome and before the game. Certainly not like it was before the Patriots game. It seemed like a lot of fans arrived early. 
  • There were definitely more McAllister jerseys at the game than normal since he's been released. No surprise there.  
  • The blackout was in effect but ineffective. All the black just gets lost in the Dome and honestly I couldn't tell much of a difference between Saturday nights crowd and a regular one. In the future, I think a whiteout or goldout would be more effective. 
  • I'm sorry to be such a Debbie Downer here but I've got to admit that I think the Deuce McAllister introduction was slightly anti-climactic as well. They played a cool video tribute to Deuce then introduced him and then the rest of the team as a unit. The Saints could have milked it much more. My suggestion would have been to introduce the offense player by player like normal then play the tribute video followed by Deuce's introduction last. Would have been much better.
  • Speaking of Deuce, why were some people chanting "Deeeeeeeuuuuuuccceee!" when the Saints offense would get deep in the red zone? He wasn't even dressed people!
  • I've got to give credit to the crowd, though, because after Hightower ran for the score on the first play from scrimmage they got right back up and didn't let it effect them. Fortunately, the Saints offense was able to strike right back which obviously helped. Honestly, giving up big gains on the ground early in the game is becoming status quo and usually means good things for the Saints the rest of the game.
  • I don't think I sat down the entire first quarter, which felt like an eternity by the way. 
  • Brees played great as usual though not his best performance; that was probably the Patriots game. It looked as though he overthrew a few of his receivers. Just think...they could have scored more points. 
  • Not many people have talked about it but let's give some love to the offensive line. They played awesome. The running backs had holes and Brees never hit the ground. A perfect day in my opinion, minus a penalty or two.
  •  I don't know about you but I feel Lynell Hamilton is doing a great job in his role as a third running back. Mike Bell is obviously out of gas this year but I hope to see him next season and I thank him for his service in 2009.
  • When I originally wrote about Reggie being poised for a playoff breakout, I talked briefly about his future with the Saints, his contract and the inevitable uncapped season in 2010. An impressive playoff tear could certainly effect his future and this game was obviously a step in that direction. I can't predict whether the Saints would try to trade him or renegotiate a lower contract but I do think this performance eliminates the minute possibility that the Saints would simply cut him. If this spectacular play continues, his stock will never be higher and he'll look much more attractive to other teams this off-season. 
  • After looking at the stats, I can't believe Colston only had six catches. It felt like Drew was going to Marques on nearly every play. 
  • Sharpers bobbling interception occurred right in front of me and I still can't believe he came up with it. What a beautiful play to be wasted and called back because of some stupid ticky tacky penalty call. 
  • Where was Robert Meachem? Drew overthrew him on one play and handed it off to him on another but that was it. Is Payton saving him up for next week? I'm beginning to wonder if coach has a pre-determined rotation of which players he's going to use during any given game. That way everyone stays rested and ready to go when it's their turn. This week it's Colston, Henderson and Shockey. Next week it's Meachem, Moore and Thomas. Brilliant.
  •  Some people have made mention of Payton's poor clock management, however, and I have got to agree. Late in the first half with about three minutes remaining (just an estimate) the Saints had the ball in the red zone. Instead of using up as much time as possible in the half by simply running the ball and eating up play clock with longer huddles, the Saints continued to go for the jugular by passing. Why try to score so quickly and give your opponent back the ball and a chance to score when you can take your time and still get your points? In this particular situation the Saints wound up getting called for a bunch of penalties and taking more time than they had probably planned but their intent was obvious. I know some people like that aggressive approach but I just don't think it's smart football. Not with a decent lead. 
  • Morstead was sick. His 66-yard punt was unbelievable and I truly believe it would have hit the new video screen at Cowboy Stadium. You should also know that Morstead is always kicking balls into the net or practicing snap receptions on the sidelines. Always. 
  • Reggie called for a fair catch on his final punt return because he was feeling pressure from an Arizona player that Randall Gay was blocking. After the play Gay yelled at Bush, assuring him that he had his man blocked and Bush could have run with it safely. Gay was right. 

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Don Banks of SI criticized bringing back Deuce for the game by saying:

“I’m probably in the distinct minority on this, but Deuce McAllister was a very good NFL player, and it doesn’t seem completely right to see him turned into a mascot of sorts to fire up the Saints and lead them onto the field against Arizona. Did New Orleans really have to go to the trouble of adding him to its roster to have him play that ceremonial role?”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/01/17/snap.judgments/1.html

He should really check his facts before making such stupid statements. Deuce was the emotional leader of the team and one of the most popular Saints of all time. It was a GENIUS move and anyone who has half a clue about football knows that.

I guess that’s what happens when you have your head so far up the Jets’ ass you don’t even now what’s going on with other teams…

by Swidub on Jan 18, 2010 6:58 AM CST reply actions  

I agree with you

for those columnists that don’t regularly cover the Saints to make a statement like that just shows his ignorance. Just like when Peyton made it a point to get Deuce the TD team record, I see his signing as a reciprocation to benefit both Deuce and the team. Deuce gives his teammates an emotional boost. The team in turn can deliver to him that ring that every player would love to have. By being on the roster, he’d be assured one, be it ceremonial or not. Classy move by the organization. Welcome back Deuce.

by WhoDat_OH on Jan 18, 2010 7:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I like how these columnists

are all of a sudden the experts of the Saints, they’re hanging around waiting to do a story on the Bag heads of 1980.

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Jan 18, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I read the same SI article

Always agreeing with my opinion isn’t necessarily a prerequisite for my liking or not liking a sports writer. With that said, I’ve liked Don Banks more than most. I will give him some credit for being the first (that I’m aware of) to put the Saints at the top of his power ratings.

But, I was really surprised and disappointed to read his take on bringing Deuce back. It was clearly someone making a knee jerk reaction about something they know little about. This is evidenced by his asking if the team “really had to go to the trouble of adding him to the roster to play a ceremonial role”. The reason is obvious. Deuce isn’t a “mascot”; he is a Saint.

Wheather it be to attempt a short yardage touchdown, serve as a decoy, or just a repayment for all he has done and meant for the team, I’ll be surprised if he isn’t on the field to some small extent and in some capacity if the Saints go to Miami. The last time I checked, I think you have to be on the roster in order for that to happen. Mascots aren’t eligible.

by Drew-Dat on Jan 18, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Great job, Saintsational.

I agree with your assessement about the clock management. I wish they could burn more time off the clock, but I think Payton’s mind set is to get the ball back with some time left on the clock. Seems like some of our worst played defense is the last 3-2 minutes of the half. I’m all for not giving up the cheap points.

by rustdog74 on Jan 18, 2010 7:01 AM CST reply actions  

You are spot on about everything

except one thing. I don’t buy that Bell is out of gas, He had a good 7 yd td called back because of a penalty. THat’s just the way it is with RBs. If PT should have an injury (God forbid) I have every confidence Bell could step right into the rotation and be fine. But it is great to see Reggie and Hamilton do so well. I also had predicted that Reggie would prove his worth come playoff time.

"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
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by Philinwood on Jan 18, 2010 7:21 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Boom rec'd the main article all except the Bell part, and Phil's comment

Astute observations, Saintsational David. And well put. But I think Bell is hurt.

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by stujo4 on Jan 18, 2010 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

7 yds and a TD!

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by metryman on Jan 18, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Just for further discussion because I disagree

Here are Bell’s stats for the season:

First 11 game (2 inactive): 4.3 ypg
Last 5 games (1 inactive): 2.15 ypg

He has been exactly half as productive. Not sure how you can argue with these numbers.

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by Dave Cariello on Jan 18, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

what's the carry's like...

plus we were playing different those last few games compared to the first few…numbers don’t tell everything…anyway I do love your mentals when it comes to the team. Very objective guy…keep it up!

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by TAYDIGGA on Jan 18, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

ahh...good question

Here are Bell’s stats for the season:

First 11 games (2 inactive): 22 carries per game
Last 5 games (1 inactice): 11 carries per game average

He has been exactly half as productive.

You think I’m objective? I don’t feel that way. I’ve got opinions.

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by Dave Cariello on Jan 18, 2010 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

welll..

twice as many carries gives you twice as many chances for long runs to up that average.

But, he was hindered by injuries (however minor), so I agree his production was down.

Thank goodness we’ve got some other guys to pick up the slack, or at least provide a respectable fill-in roll.

NOLA transplant in DFW. I bleed Black & Gold. Saints go all the way... I BELIEVE!

by Dan Kelly on Jan 18, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

well, I'd put it this way

you try to be objective and try not to have half-baked opinions with no basis in factual reality

case in point, Bell’s production – you stated an opinion (I think he’s out of gas) and then looked up stats and facts to see if your opinion made sense…

your opinions are often right on, because of your close scrutiny and knowledge of the team, and you always seek the truth while playing nicely and encouraging others to also do so…

Why not us? Why not Deuce?

by HansDat on Jan 18, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks Hans
you stated an opinion (I think he’s out of gas) and then looked up stats and facts to see if your opinion made sense…

Sometimes I even look up stats and facts THEN state my opinion.

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by Dave Cariello on Jan 18, 2010 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha! - yeah, you have to

because you have many stories and posts to make on this here Chronic…

Why not us? Why not Deuce?

by HansDat on Jan 18, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

no argument

But I think he’s playing hurt.

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by stujo4 on Jan 18, 2010 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

how many of those last 5 games

were in black pants?

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by MobileSaint on Jan 18, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

At least 2... probably more like 4.

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by Dan Kelly on Jan 18, 2010 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Please

no black on black pj’s this week!

by TonyChachere on Jan 18, 2010 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree phil...

Reggie is doing now what PT was doing with his limited carries over the last couple years…

Don't worry I got your back cuz...

by TAYDIGGA on Jan 18, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Meachem..

I think he twisted his ankle when he lost his shoe… Duncan (Twitter) yesterday reported Meach was wearing a protective boot

You gotta go there to come back

by bondcrash on Jan 18, 2010 7:43 AM CST reply actions  

a little help...?

what’s the MCV reference?

Why not us? Why not Deuce?

by HansDat on Jan 18, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

dead on balls accurate

click it damnit

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by Dave Cariello on Jan 18, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess it's f****** broken.

Good one, Dave. Sorry I missed that hyperlink up there. There were so many gold words in your post that I kinda just zoomed right over it. I’ll have to start paying more attention. Maybe some of those NASA physicists can help me…

Why not us? Why not Deuce?

by HansDat on Jan 18, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought that Reggie called for the fair catch to avoid running up the score. Didn’t realize he felt the pressure from the Cardinal in the area.

by FriarBob on Jan 18, 2010 8:29 AM CST reply actions  

we need to get reggie some more bats

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by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 18, 2010 9:40 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

What was the crowd reaction when Boby McCray just demolished Kurt Warner

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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 18, 2010 9:59 AM CST reply actions  

Robert Meachem reportedly in walking boot

I read on nola.com that he was spotted in a walking boot yesterday after an ankle injury sustained in the game. Did anyone else see this? I can’t find the article now. It’s probably not serious, but I was hoping to find more on it to cool my worries.

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by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 18, 2010 10:04 AM CST reply actions  

Found it

Per the Times-Pic:

While Payton didn’t address his team’s injury status, receiver Robert Meachem appears to have suffered an ankle injury in the first half. He briefly left the game to get his left ankle taped.

On Sunday, he was in a walking boot.

If it had been serious, they would have pulled him for the rest of the game. The boot is probably just precautionary.

"I said this early on that this was a good football team, they just maybe had to have a stick put in certain parts of their body to play a little harder in certain places to where we’re able to take interceptions and score touchdowns."--Gregg Williams

by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 18, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

David I love reading your articles and this one was dead on.....

especially the Reggie prediction. As for the rotations I think Payton looks at the match-ups and who is the healthiest but most importantly who is the sharpest in practice and tends to favor those players. I understand your concerns with Sean’s clock management but depending on how the game is unfolding stiking while the irons is hot makes a lot of sense to me. The resigning of Deuce was brilliant even if it was only for symbolic reasons but I agree with you that they could have milked more out of it. I do think it helped to curb some of the gloom & doom press and deflect the media attention away from players.

I think your articles should be required reading for all Saints players, coaches and fans!

by bobinva on Jan 18, 2010 10:37 AM CST reply actions  

Saintsational, that's why your the Head Coach of CSC

Way to ‘bring the wood’ for your playoff posts.
Agree with the clock management commentary.
Major props to Bush. What a performance! As far as next year, though, I agree we need to keep our heads and consider his body of work and penchant for injury. I would like to keep Reggie for a restructured deal. If he won’t go for that, then hopefully he’ll continue to raise his stock with two more unstoppable games.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 18, 2010 11:20 AM CST reply actions  

Taking Time off the Clock

with a big lead is something the Colts love to do. It would behoove the Saints to integrate that into their gameplan if they get a big lead on the Vikes (I sure hope they do). The Colts literally nickeled and dimed the Ravens to death Saturday by taking up seven-eight minutes at a time offensively. I hope it’s Colts vs. Saints in Miami February 7. Don’t let that tool Favre win.

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 18, 2010 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

quit hatin on Favre

I wish the Vikes were in the AFC but oh well, at least he got them to the NFC championship…now its time for us to do work and take on the Jets! I hate the colts, hope they lose.

Don't worry I got your back cuz...

by TAYDIGGA on Jan 18, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll hate on him...

…I lived in Slidell when that POS used to hang there, and saw him perpetrate some pretty heinous stuff. He’s not the nice country boy the media has fed us, he’s a pompous, self-centered, jackass of a human being.

Yeah, he’s a heck of a football player, but there is ten times more class in Drew’s pinky toe than the entirety of Brent FAR-VUH’s existence.

Here’s my prediction for his LAST NFL game:

He is sacked at least 4 times, hurried and harried a lot more; he has one of his patented 3+ interception games because of the pressure; Sharper takes his old teammate to the house, and has a good bit of fun mugging along the way at the entire Vikings bench for being STUPID enough to CUT him; at the post-game press conference, Brent FAR-VUH, the mental midget that can’t even pronounce his damn name correctly, tearfully (with assistance from a bottle of eye drops) announces his retirement.

6 months from now, he starts flirting with Jacksonville to become their QB for 2010, right after the Vikings release him.

He’s a douche.

Irony: An atheist Saints fan.

by GSO Saints Fan on Jan 18, 2010 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Tell us how you really feel! LOL

"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." --Mike Tyson

by vicvega26 on Jan 19, 2010 2:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Naw...

…I’m gonna hold back, don’t wanna blow a gasket.

;-)

Seriously though, he was a real turd of a human being back in the day…not much to do in Kiln, so he’d go to Slidell to “party”, and I’d run into him, or my sister would. Typically, we’d find someplace else to be, because he pretty much ruined any room he walked into.

Maybe he’s changed, but somewhere inside is still that same jerk. Just look at how he dealt with Green Bay when he was pulling his “I retire…wait, no, I don’t, wait no I do, wait…”. He’s gonna pull it on the Vikings now….and nothing will give me more joy than to see it happen without that ring he thinks he deserves.

That’s Drew’s ring, you dumb redneck. ;-)

Irony: An atheist Saints fan.

by GSO Saints Fan on Jan 19, 2010 7:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow, I thought I didn't like grandpa Brett.

Compared to you. . . . .I want to have his baby!!! Jeeeeez!

(Now I need a shower.)

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

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by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 19, 2010 7:54 AM CST up reply actions  

:-)

…hey, I call ’em like I see ’em.

;-)

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by GSO Saints Fan on Jan 19, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Good calls all, Saintsational!

WHODAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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