Saints & Vikings: Downright Offensive
by Dave Cariello on Jan 21, 2010 12:00 PM CST
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This picture showed up in my story editor and I figured it was worth sharing. Click on the graphic to enlarge it. And to add a little more content to this fairly bland post, I figured I would ask the all important question for this weekends game: Peterson or Favre. I look forward to seeing the results.
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The title...
I see what you did there!
"HOT BOUDIN! COOOOOLD COUS COUS, COME ON TIGAHS, PUSH PUSH PUSH!"
PS:
I voted Peterson, because of his horrific tendency to fumble the ball. Favre may be effected, but Peterson can translate into points for the home team.
"HOT BOUDIN! COOOOOLD COUS COUS, COME ON TIGAHS, PUSH PUSH PUSH!"
Agree
Saw a stat where AP’s fumbles to carry ratio is way, WAY lower than Walter Payton’s was his first 3 years. I think everyone’s image of AP as the physical specimen that he is subconciously implats a higher expectation of him than any other athlete in the NFL.
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 21, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe i didn't clearly state the point...
When I watch the vikings, it seems like Peterson fumbles in the most important play of the game.
See: The reason that the vikings are a #2 seed.
And FWIW- It’s a terrible argument to point out someone else’s inability to handle the ball, either. I’m a saints fan, but I understand cognitive discussion. If I were talking about stopping reggie, I would say go for the ball there, too.
"HOT BOUDIN! COOOOOLD COUS COUS, COME ON TIGAHS, PUSH PUSH PUSH!"
It's not inability to handle the ball per se for AD
It’s that people are actively stripping him, sometimies after standing him up on purpose to do it (like Packers did, lettign Clay Matthews rip it out). I can remember at least three of his fumbles, and each was the case of a player coming from behind him and punching/ripping the ball out of his arms.
The only truly game changing fumble I know of was the OT one against Chicago in wk 16 (a punch-out). In hindsight it cost us the #1 seed & home field against you guys (sigh) — though who knows, you might have tried harder to win in wk17 had that not happened to us. There are some that think that was caused by an uncalled facemask, but … after hearing the explanation of the facemask penalty in the context of the Packers-cardinals wildcard, I’m not sure it really was, technically speaking.
According to ESPN Reggie Bush only had 2 Fumbles/70 Attempts.
maybe thats fumbles lost.
that being said its still 1 every 35 attempts compared to AD’s 1 every 45 attempts. also i disagree that AD’s fumbles occured during the most important plays and cost any games
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by knucklesmalone on Jan 21, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
How does that relate
to “stopping” AP?
Stopping AP would be limiting the Vikings ground game (obviously). It’s another thing to get fumbles.
by FloridaownsFSU on Jan 21, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
And how is fumbling not stopping AP?
Does that, or does that not stop his drive and progression down the field?
"HOT BOUDIN! COOOOOLD COUS COUS, COME ON TIGAHS, PUSH PUSH PUSH!"
Key to stopping AP on offense
is to get an early lead. If the saints get up by a significant lead early in the game, it’ll force minnesota to pass.
Sorry to burst the bubble
but it won’t matter as the Saints can’t “stop” both. You can only pick one and hope it’s the lesser of the two evils and hope you can outshoot the Vikings.
I say this because your defense just isn’t good enough. It’s looked good over the coarse of the season, but that’s because it’s been playing with a big lead. Teams definately have the ability to put up solid points on them. The Saints defense feeds on mistakes of other teams. Your best shot is getting Peterson to fumble, which is the #1 thing AP is going to NOT try and do this game.
I don’t think the Saints can win this game, even at home. The homefield advantage while significant, isn’t as much of a factor playing against a veteran team like the Vikings, who also play on turf. The defense doesn’t have the tools to shut down the hardnosed running attack of the vikings, and a sucessful run game will take out the crowd and home field advantage. On the flip side, over stacking of the box to stop the run will result in big plays from the passing game. I also don’t feel your offensive line can match up with the #1 Defensive line in the NFL. Vikes get great pressure with just the front four, so although Brees being excellent vs the blitz, he won’t see it from the Vikes and will be looking at 7 men in coverage.
A superbowl trip and victory is more important to the Vikings franchice and fan base than it is to the Saints. I know the Saints have a great story with the city tradgedy and all, but the Vikings have been around much much longer and have way too much heartbreak over the last 4 decades. With Brett Favre over 40 and an aging veteran locker room, many players know this is their last shot at a ring. It just means more to the Vikings right now. They will not bring anything less than their A game on sunday, and I feel if the Vikings play their best football, no one in the NFL can beat them.
I'm a vikings fan
and even I think your post is ridiculous. They are the #1 seed for a reason and are just as likely to win the game as we are. For you to say they can’t win the game is just blind homerism. Obviously I hope we can win this game but it will require a near-perfect effort. And I am not going to even bother responding to your insane notion that the game means more to us than them.
by All Day, All Night on Jan 21, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 9 recs
Brilliant!
Rec’d it.
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 21, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
With All Day All Night on this one
Glad he stepped up right awayl I didn’t see this til now. This idea that Saints can’t win, and it means more to us than you, is beyond bizarre.
Let me just offer this up at the sacrificial altar, to make amends: The Arizona Cardinal defense slowed us down pretty well, and I concede that you have at least as good a defense as them.
Cardinals defense
Really? you think the Vikings defense is just at least as good a defense as them? More like it’s much better. Did they not show the game vs the cowboys in Louisiana?
And I stand by my opinion, the Vikings have been referred to as the “cubs of the NFL”. I truly believe it means more to Vikings fans than Saints fans. You just don’t understand that because the media doesn’t talk about it. Well the media didn’t talk about the Vikings having a chance vs the red hot cowboys and look how that played out.
Fear what you don’t know. It’s coming on Sunday.
you really won't give up on this one, will you?
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 21, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
No
I said the Saints defense was at least as good as the Cardinals defense. I did not even mention the Vikings defense.
You need to read more carefully, or at teh very least stop to consider that it would not have made any sense to say what you thought I did.
Your exact words
“The Arizona Cardinal defense slowed us down pretty well, and I concede that you have at least as good a defense as them.”
You're right
A #1 seed guarantees a seat in the superbowl, what was I thinking? There’s never been a #1 seed that was overmatched by it’s opponent in the championship round of the playoffs….ever.
The near perfect effort isn’t as vital to be achieved by the vikings as it is on the saints. They are overmatched in more areas in this game, especially at the line of scrimmage. We’re pretty even in most areas except for their secondary having the advantage and our D line having the advantage.
Even YOU should understand these simple concepts.
so #2 seed guarantees a seat in the superbowl?
look, i’m a homer also ok, i think the saints are gonna win every game. but i can take a step back and see these are the 2 best teams in the nfl right now. this game is gonna be so close that the little things i.e. home field advantage will have an impact. this game could very well be 34-34 and come down to a last second field goal by either team.
yes, the saints have had trouble stopping the run. even with sedrick ellis healthy we’ve been shaky. but don’t pretend like the vikes are a run-first pound it down your throat offense this year. your team is more balanced and even though AD had 1400+ yards the vikings aren’t a “hardnosed running attack”.
here’s the gameplan for the saints: slow down AD long enough to get that “big lead” that forces opponents into pass only situations.
gameplan for the vikings: run the ball, control the clock, take the crowd out of it, hit the play-action pass deep
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by knucklesmalone on Jan 21, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree, I don't think it will be close
Either the vikes shoot themselves in the foot with turnovers or bad coverage on special teams, allowing the Saints an early lead, they won’t overcome the momentum and crowd noise and Saints will blow them out.
Or: The vikings do control the game with the run, control the clock, take out the noise, keep brees on the sideline, and the Defense is allowed to do what it did to Dallas.
You saints fans aren’t accounting for the Viking’s defense. Look what they did to Dallas, who was this “red hot team” going into the playoffs. They had no chance, they were completely shut down.
Here’s the other aspect: the vikings can win with pass first offense. We’ve put up 30+ points on top defenses (Green Bay twice, Pittsburgh w/Polamalu, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Dallas). I can’t say the Saints are as good on defense as any of those teams. Defense is too important in the post season. Look at how far it’s taken the Jets.
I don't understand how...
“vikings shooting themselves in the foot with turnovers” doesn’t translate to Saints D stepping up.
"HOT BOUDIN! COOOOOLD COUS COUS, COME ON TIGAHS, PUSH PUSH PUSH!"
because
according to cdubs the Saints have no control over who wins this game. Either the Vikings win in a blow out or they choke and lose to an inferior team
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by knucklesmalone on Jan 21, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
i grew up in Oregon. i’ve never even been to NOLA. Only reason i started with the Saints is because of Stan Brock.
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by knucklesmalone on Jan 21, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
Vikes shot their wad in the Metrodome against the Cowboys
Not likely they’ll be able to play 2 games in a row like that. Not bloody likely.
One thing, I have learned through these years
Is that no man should be stricken with fear.
It should be that he walks with no care in the world.
you're gonna screw this up for us
by being all cocky…. dude, confidence is good, but keep it bottled up inside until after the game. it looks like a cowboy fan wrote that. i’m just saying.
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
by IABerserker1 on Jan 21, 2010 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
from what i've seen
cdubs is a very a-typical vikings fan, cuz every other one has been intelligent and pleasant…
you sure you don’t root for the Cowboys??
Again with the stupid comment
Really? After all my posts, you’re asking me if I root for the Cowboys?
Education reform needs are drastic in LA, more than I thought.
are you serious?
He didn’t mean that literally. Maybe it’s just my low educational level but I’m pretty sure it was a barb direct towards your lack of class that is so typical of the Cowboys fans. Skol to the rest of the Vikings fans and GEAUX SAINTS.
You really are that dumb
and not just an ignorant homer…
BTW im from CT, and last i checked our educations pretty top notch…
Couldn't disagree more...
A superbowl trip and victory is more important to the Vikings franchice and fan base than it is to the Saints…the Vikings have been around much much longer and have way too much heartbreak over the last 4 decades.
How can a team that has been to the Super Bowl three times have had more heartbreak than the Saints, who have NEVER made it?
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 21, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
It's 4 times
and 4 other LOST NFC Championships. Much more heartbreak because we’ve loved and lost what the Saints fans have never loved at all.
I expect most Vikings fans to disagree with me because most of them have no faith and they’re EXPECTING to be disappointed like All Day, All Night is. That way he won’t lose as much emotionally while wearing the crutch of “I knew it was going to happen”.
Let me rephrase for clairty: If the Vikings play their best game, meaning they don’t make mistakes or turnovers, basically playing as well as they did vs the cowboys, the saints cannot beat them. The saints only hope is to capitalize on mistakes made by the Vikings. The Vikings create the mistake and are able to stop, as well as overcome, teams that play good football. Not to say the saints haven’t beaten anyone this year, I just believe the Vikings best game can’t be beaten.
Much more heartbreak because we’ve loved and lost what the Saints fans have never loved at all.
I believe the old adage is, “Better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all”
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 21, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
Keep telling yourself that
it hurts more going 15-1, breaking the single season scoring record, and then losing the NFC Championship from a field gold missed by a guy who hasn’t missed all year.
I’d rather go 6-10 and believe we’re rebuilding and have a top 10 pick in a talent loaded draft.
If you believe this,
you should move to Detroit, dude. That way, you don’t have to worry about the terrible stress of winning seasons without Super Bowls. Your team can just constantly be “rebuilding”, and you won’t have to deal with the miserable pain of winning, but not quite enough.
Other than that, since you root for a team that HAS won NFC championships and at least gone to Super Bowls on a fairly regular basis at some point, you can’t really comment on what it feels like to root for a team that has NEVER done any of that, can you?
"I do know that we have some unfinished business that we started a few years ago and we want to finish the deal."- Dulymus McAllister
Yeah I should move to Detroit
So you’d rather have a girl stand you up at the altar on your wedding day than reject you on your first date?
Maybe YOU should move to Detroit. (Whatever that means)
I guess it's a difference of opinion we have.
And by we, I mean you, and all football fans. Yes, I’d rather the A choice. At least then I got laid, presumably.
"I do know that we have some unfinished business that we started a few years ago and we want to finish the deal."- Dulymus McAllister
by FuSoYa on Jan 21, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
nobody wants to die a virgin
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by knucklesmalone on Jan 21, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
lol
can’t argue with that logic!
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
by IABerserker1 on Jan 21, 2010 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
And veteran Team?
Just because you got the oldest starting Qb in the league doesn’t make you a veteran team, In fact you have way more rookies starting on Offense than the Saints, considering we didn’t even draft an offensive player this year. If anything the Saints are the veteran team in this matchup.
Never said anything about the QB
despite having young receivers and rookie RT, this team is pretty veteran. Most players are in at least their 3rd season as a starter on THIS TEAM.
The Vikings are a veteran team, no matter how you try to spin it.
And the Saints are what?
Please explain the difference you’re suggesting.
"I do know that we have some unfinished business that we started a few years ago and we want to finish the deal."- Dulymus McAllister
besides...
on Offense most our youngest guys are in their 3rd year, Our playmakers are all 4+ years (Bush, Brees, Colston, Shockey)
And D we got Malcolm Jenkins and then a whole lot more veterans
And ST, Moresteads just a beast…
Let me pick this whole thing apart: Ahem....
Paragraph 1: yes we can outshoot the Vikings, Please god pleeease let it be a shootout…
Paragraph 2: What few fans from other teams all year failed to realize is we played without our two starting (and VERY good) CBs for much of the season. (and a LB and a Def. run-stopping tackle) Having them back leaves it open for D-Sharp to be a turnover machine. Kurt Warner and the pass happy Cards couldn’t score one passing TD on us and I believe we held him to about 200 yards. And Larry Fitzgerald (one of the best in the league) did NOTHING until the half. Also Will Smith was only a 1/2 sack behind Jared Allen during the regular season, w/o the luxury of playing the early 09 Packers line.
Paragraph 3: See my comment about the veteran team. Also yes, the Vikes have a VERY respectable D-line… but the Saints have an O-line thats just as respectable. this will be the most interesting matchup and I will give an edge to the Vikes due to Bushrod on the blind side… but Drew Brees being as great against pressure as he is and having that quick release makes me confident that you wont dominate the trenches.
Paragraph 4: C’MON MAN!!!!! really?? you’re gonna claim that any team in America wants a super bowl more than NOLA?? Saints fans are some of the most loyal fans who have had more heart breaking seasons than any team in the NFL. Yeah Favre’s gonna probably retire for the 4th, or 5th time.. i forgot how many. But thats only one player, this is an entire CITY who wants and needs this super bowl. The Saints play more for their community than any other team and those fans will do everything in their power to make sure they win this game…
Two can pickapart these things...
1. I’ll give you that, Saints can outshoot anyone, they can outshoot with the best of the shooters
2. I understand you’re getting some players back who were big for you early in the season, but other players will have to step up where they haven’t. Just because a player returns from Injury doesn’t mean he’s 100%. Example would be Winfield for the Vikings, look what happened to him in Carolina, that was NOT the Winfield I know. They’ve had to move him to the Nickel Corner position since. Those bad blocking games vs Arizona and Carolina I hold strong responsibility to the injuries that McKinnie and Loadhold played with. Just because they’re starting doesn’t guarantee success. So yes I understand.
3. Vikings were a veteran locker room, didn’t say the Saints weren’t. If I did, it was a typo.
4. Yes I claim MN wants it more than NO. Vikings have been around a lot longer and are with the Browns on longest standing franchises without a ring. The NFC North has been one of the most competitive divisions in NFL history. The Triangle of hatred bears far more burden on the Vikings vs. the Packers and Bears than NO has with any team. Forget Favre, this franchise is fighting for competition within the NFC North, as well as a Stadium. You could even go as far to say the Vikings are fighting to stay in MN. Not sure how you determine how a team “plays more for their community” than other teams, but if it were something that were even possible, the Vikings play for their community just as much as any.
2. So winfield isn’t playing great, thats too bad because Greer and Porter are playing lights out defense. Fujita is solid and Ellis has been helping our line immensly at stopping the run. Obviously you know your team best so used Winfield as an example but our guys that were injured are playing at 100%, or close to it (If the cards game is an example of that) This is the healthiest the Saints have been since week 1 and there wasn’t a single team that was playing close to their caliber for the first 8 weeks. (arguably colts but i’ll save that for the super bowl)
4. I shouldn’t even argue this with such a homer because any un-biased football fan can see the connection between NO and the Saints. Are you saying because the Vikings are an older team w/o a ring, the players will play harder for it?? Thats the same washed up argument you hear for why Baltimore will play Indy harder because they stole their team. Most of todays players are in their mid to early 20’s, they dont care about what their team did 30+ years ago… My argument is in 2010, the Saints have a connection with their fans, especially after the disasters and the years of concern the team might leave. Almost every Saint player has a charity that helps the city and gets personally involved on a VERY regular basis. The people of this city love this team and the team gets motivated and pumped up from that. That dome will be on the richter scale this sunday, Vikings bring youre ear-plugs.
And I would add...
There is a waiting list of 50k for season tickets and that’s been a sold out since 2006. How many times have we heard the Vikes could leave town… come on cdubs you are delusional…
You gotta go there to come back
Just because I think the saints lose doesn't mean I'm biased
2. Arguably, the Vikings were playing close to the Saints caliber. We lost in final minutes to Pittsburgh on the road, right after we had a TD taken away on a bogus tripping call. That game is for another argument, but there is validity that the vikings did in fact play at the same level of football and success as the Saints did in the first 8, even 12 weeks of the season.
4. I actually thought we’d lose to Dallas because Chilly had a tendency to not have the ability to prepare this team for big games in the past. After steamrolling a good Dallas team, I realized they ready to take this all the way, and I felt Dallas was a bigger obstacle than the Saints. I’m not saying the play harder because they have a ring, I say they play just as hard for a team that claims to “play harder for their community” (your words) because there was a hurrican years ago. Get outta here with that garbage.
And I would add…
Given I’ve never been to a game in the Superdome, but the Metrodome is a terrible facility to watch a football game. Sitting upperdeck feels like you’re not even at the game you feel so far away. It’s a terrible venue for just about anything. Minnesota is better educated than Louisiana (true comment, could easily get stats to prove) and they aren’t willing to spend thousands of dollars on seats in a garbage stadium. They need a new one desperately.
2. You LOST a game, we hadn’t even won a game by less than double digits until we played Miami. Thats same team is back right now, Only major loss is Heath Evans.
4. Your response has absolutely nothing to do with my argument, but i’d reccomend you stop these posts soon because you’re going from sounding like a homer to just plain dumb… (so much for that Minnesota education?)
P.S. to any other Vikes fans here, we do appreciate the back and forth on this site and for the most part you guys have been great to debate and chat with.
we beat miami by 12
saints won the first 8 games by double digits.
there is no way the vikings were playing “at the same level of football and success as the Saints did in the first 8” they were 7-1 with a miracle play to beat the 49ers and a missed 44yd fg to beat balt.
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by knucklesmalone on Jan 21, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
The Jets had a worse record
and didn’t blow out many teams, yet so far they’re farther in the playoffs than Packers, Cowboys, and Chargers. Does that mean their wins aren’t as important because they’re not as high scoring on offense?
Saints went 13-3, with one loss going to the bucs at HOME, the 3rd worst team in the NFL. That argument means nothing.
you were comparing the first 8 games saying that the vikings were on par with the saints.
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by knucklesmalone on Jan 21, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
Wins and Caliber of play aren't mutually exclusive
Or is that concept not taught in Louisiana public schools?
With the exception of a freak interception that landed in the hands of a linebacker with no one in front him, and a bogus tripping call that TOOK AWAY THE GAME WINNING TD, Vikes would’ve been 12-0. A win is a win, so you ran up the score on your opponents, Vikings weren’t playing that kind of football at the time (of course we didn’t start running up until last week).
By the way, you almost lost to both the Rams and Panthers AT HOME, and then you did get beat by the Panthers and the Buccaneers.
P.S. to any fans who can’t handle legit arguments and just accuse people of being homers. I have a right to my opinion as much as you do and you sit hereand bash me when you can’t understand some simple concepts. Just because I truly believe the Vikings will win this game doesn’t mean my arguments aren’t valid.
I have no problem with your opinions
but why the education comments? They make you sound juvenile.
by TonyChachere on Jan 21, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Because he's not getting it
He’s making comments like “saints play harder for their community than any other team” and thinks that just because the saints scored more points and blew out teams in games means they were better than a team with a similar record who won some close games.
They’re stupid comments. Period.
You know what's a stupid comment...
A superbowl trip and victory is more important to the Vikings franchice and fan base than it is to the Saints.
That. Period.
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 21, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
boom rec'd it
Stupid.
One thing, I have learned through these years
Is that no man should be stricken with fear.
It should be that he walks with no care in the world.
Do you really
expect to come to this board as an opposing fan and convince someone of your opinion? Present your opinion. Discuss it as much as you want but stop complaining that he’s just not getting it.
P.S. “Period.” is such a good power statement. It makes me think you might actually be right.
by TonyChachere on Jan 21, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
I don't expect agreement on who wins
but if people are going to disagree, don’t expect nice comments when your arguments are stupid. Come back with something legit.
Our comments are stupid?
“so you ran up the score on your opponents, Vikings weren’t playing that kind of football at the time” – Not one other team has accused the Saints of running up the score, in fact if they did run up the score we would have beaten many teams by 14+ more points. We’ve pulled Brees from games, stopped throwing in the 3rd qrtr, done everything BUT run up the score… and you’re gonna accuse the Saints of that as a Vikings fan?? after Sports Center talked all week about your guys running up the score? now THATS a stupid comment.
I didn't say anything about running up the score
I understand you’re lacking firepower here, but please don’t put words in my mouth. The Saints were just scoring more points early in games. The Vikings are a different type of offense, and they usually make a strong attempt to establish a run game early in games.
Good try, but my 14 year old cousin could do better. Get real.
haha
I’m dumb because I think the Saints are the better team because they “score more points”…
I guess the Vikes are better because they barely squeaked out more wins?
You are right there, gdub.
You can run up and down the field all day long and not score a point and look real good. Or, you can score lots of field goals too!
WHODAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dynasty - 2009 - ????
No, the Saints feed on getting WAY ahead and staying there. if you make them jumpy,
they’ll score another 14. Watch.
WHODAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dynasty - 2009 - ????
Thats what they said about the Cards
It’ll be a shoot out and last team to score wins. LOL ROFLMAO!! We’ll see come Sunday. The Vikings are running into a buzz saw and a team on a mission who’s time is here!!
I voted "Favre" as a vikes fan
Simply because teams have taken the ‘Peterson’ route and gotten beat badly this year. For some reason, they keep stacking the box and Favre keeps eating their faces.
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 21, 2010 12:27 PM CST reply actions
Good point
from a vikings fan that obviously knows what he’s talking about. However I disagree. The rush attack is vital for a road playoff game vs a team like the saints with a high powered offense. It eats up clock, takes the loud crowd factor out of the equation, and keeps Drew Brees and company on the sidelines. Saints need to stop Peterson first.
I think we'll need Peterson to bring the wood to this one
As was being said last week, last week’s game was the reason Favre was brought in to Minnesota.
Now I will say it here: this week’s game should prove, if we win, that Minnesota still really needs AD.
Voting Peterson, as a Vikings fan …
Actually, I don't think you want to after either of them. I think cover is going to be the key.
I really can’t say I know Favre well enough and it’s usually not brilliant to sit back, I know that. But, somehow, I think if they just cover, they’re going to get a lot of picks. Oh, sure, it’s almost guaranteed you’re going to have some blitzes with GW, can’t help that. But, I think we’ve got the cover to cause a lot of havoc.
WHODAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dynasty - 2009 - ????
Long story short...
If the Saints can get pressure on Favre with just four or five guys (which is what they did to Warner, btw) than I have no doubt the Saints will emerge victorious.
(Note: I’m not saying the Saints avoided blitzing Warner. I saw that happen. I’m saying the Saints managed to still get pressure even when rushing four or five guys at him.)
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by hakimdropstheball on Jan 21, 2010 12:49 PM CST reply actions
This is only possible
if the saints can shut down the run game first and force the Vikings into one dimension: passing mode. However, the Saints aren’t so good vs the run, and they have had to rely on the blitz to get pressure in most games. Say what you will about the Viking’s O-Line, but it is very solid. It has two pro-bowlers and two tackes that are over 6’8" 330. Unless McKinnie plays under his ability and the Vikings make the mistake of not helping in pass protection, the saints will absolutely need to blitz to get pressure.
yeah ok!
Thing is, 13 times we have heard other teams fans come on here and say the same things your saying. Stop this, stop that and 13 times the saints have gotten it done regardless of the situation! End of story!!!
I've tasted the Kool-Aid and its damn good!
14
we’ve won 14 games so far.
I see what you got...Lets rock - Al Bundy
by knucklesmalone on Jan 21, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
"end of story"?
Umm … you do realize that your opponent can tell more or less the same sotry, right?
Yes it will be “end of story” for one of them … but maybe not in the way you meant.
"end of story"
As is enough with all the talk. All the what “if’s” is stupid, both teams are very good. Talking about if they do this or they do that this will happen and this won’t happen is dumb. Which ever team comes out with a fire in their belly and plays lights out will win regardless of how many posts you make.
I've tasted the Kool-Aid and its damn good!
You are right
But the difference is that you act like pretend you aren’t doing the very thing you call “dumb” and meaningless 9and I agree it is), while I’m being honest that I am :)
why are you even on here posting then? thats the whole freaking point about speculating and the back and forth with other fans. you just want to sit on your hands and wait until sunday? have fun with that.
i think its “dumb” to complain about other fans having ideas about “what ifs”. dont read there comments if you aren’t interested. just watch the game and enjoy it however you will and leave the rest to discuss and speculate.
I see what you got...Lets rock - Al Bundy
by knucklesmalone on Jan 21, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
+1
At least we agree that people have the right to say what they want.
Ultimately someone will be right and someone will be wrong, but it adds to the hype and anticipation to speculate.
Will you come on here and admit you were wrong
if the Vikings lose?
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 21, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
If the Vikings lose from shooting themselves in the foot
with turnovers or just pure lack of focus and preparation. Yes I’ll come out and admit that.
It’s possible it could happen, it’s happened to them in the past.
WOW!!
Kinda dodged that question didn’t ya.
So like when a team looses any game they shoot themselves in the foot?
Well that does happen. So it will not be considered to be a loss to a better team, it will be that they shot themselves in the foot.
PERFECT LOGIC!
by jeremysherwin on Jan 21, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
It's the Dallas Cowboys defense:
The only team to ever beat the Cowboys is the Cowboys.
"I do know that we have some unfinished business that we started a few years ago and we want to finish the deal."- Dulymus McAllister
I want your ass on this site after you lose
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 21, 2010 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
We will come to your site and find you if you are too chicken s***
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 21, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
All depends if you heard the same what if's a thousand times already.
I've tasted the Kool-Aid and its damn good!
/RESET
So…. that graphic.
Glad I stopped by because I hadn’t seen that anywhere else.
Man… these teams are pretty even aren’t they.
DAMN. It’s gonna be a GREAT GAME Y’all!!
SKOL VIKES!!
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 21, 2010 4:12 PM CST reply actions
Haha!
Very good.
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 21, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
I guarantee this C-dub troll is a 13 year old kid with a lot of built up junior high aggression.
Does your mommy let you get on the computer after you finish your homework, buddy?
"HOT BOUDIN! COOOOOLD COUS COUS, COME ON TIGAHS, PUSH PUSH PUSH!"
by David. on Jan 21, 2010 4:59 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
HA!
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 21, 2010 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
Genius
yep, anyone who has an opinion that differs from the majority by rule is in fact a 13 year old kid with high agression.
Since you’re so interested in me, I’m 26, I work in Telecommunications, and I live in downtown Chicago.
The facts that you have a different opinion than the majority and that you are juvenile and antagonistic aren’t related. But they are both facts.
And nobody is interested in you.
"I do know that we have some unfinished business that we started a few years ago and we want to finish the deal."- Dulymus McAllister
by FuSoYa on Jan 22, 2010 1:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I see. No wonder you're so annoying
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
I started to say something to cdubs.....
…but I think it will be much more fun to come here after the game Sunday to see if he has the stones to show up after he finds out just how delusional he reallly is.
Irony: An atheist Saints fan.
I'll be here
Spamming WHO DAT and GEAUX HOME SAINTS after the vikes steamroll the saints. ;-)
We've enjoyed some other obnoxious fans from other teams coming on OUR site and trash talking
it’s quite fun come Monday morning!!!!!
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
Vikings defeat...
Adrian P will break both his legs, bret farve will finally come out of the closet, percy will………
Can you tell how angry I am?…….. How stupid it that?
You really cannot fix stupid can you?
Damn dude chill, its gonna be hard to enjoy the game when you are in the hospital with an stroke.
I've been looking forward to this game all season
No matter how you look at it, you’ve got two really strong teams competing for the NFC championship. The #1 and #2 highest scoring teams in the NFL? That will make for a great game that should be close no matter who wins in the end.
I’ll be cheering for the Vikings, but if you beat us you’ll have my support in the superbowl
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Jan 21, 2010 8:40 PM CST reply actions
Thanks man
Same here. Hope saints win but will root for vikes if not. But really hope saints win.
by cbkao on Jan 21, 2010 10:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i can say now
that you would see a lot of us over here congratulating you guys if you happened to win. but you won’t! :)
all in good fun, not trying to start any fights!!
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
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