Drew Brees on the Cusp of Finally Earning Respect

Every time I tried to click on that post, it said “Page not found”.

(Your turn, CP.)

“drew was not the franchise until he got to new orleans.”

Brees was a two time Pro Bowler with San Diego, after failing to produce consistently his first three seasons. His early struggles were the reason they drafted Rivers in the first place. He was most certainly given the same opportunity Manning was. Maybe even moreso, considering he got to learn behind Flutie for much of his rookie season, while Manning was thrown to the wolves. I give Brees all the credit in the world for snapping out of what could have been a career-ending funk, but don’t think for a minute that he wasn’t drafted to be their franchise QB. The Chargers could have just as easily gone with Vick and missed out on Tomlinson in the process. The trade down to address BOTH needs was a fantastic move for San Diego, as was the Rivers-for-Manning swap, considering all the other draft picks they landed.

First off, sarcasm done badly doesn’t work, especially online. It also sends an undertone of hostility out right away. if any fan in America should not exhibit hostility right now, it would i assume be you guys. but i digress….

Secondly, i’ve been part of CSC since Oct., i’m no johnny come lately. i don’t post often here but i’ve regularly checked out the site since about week 4 or so. i enjoy it and enjoy the who dat nations enthusiasm.

That said why would i, an outsider from a fan perspective, randomly come on your guys page and ask a question like who’s better, manning or brees, out of the blue? For one, it would be taken out of context and i would be accused of trying to start trouble, and trolling. So yes, “on a post dedicated to that specific question”, i posed a simple rebuttal. does that make sense to you, that i could possibly ask a question in direct relation to said topic?

Saintsational, the author, asked a direct question. “So what do you think?” does that then mean that doesn’t apply to me because i have an alternate response to yours? is that what CSC promotes, one minded views? Is this FOX News, or is this a mature blog with alternating views, that are shown respect? Let me know, it’s all good either way.

i never downed your QB. I said Drew Brees is good. damn good. i never took anything away from him. what i said is, Peyton is on another level, that NO other QB is on right now. but right now Brees is top 3-5 QB. so in case you missed the props in the first post due to your blind sarcastic rage, there it is again.

And after your genius defense of the 117, you agree with us! That’s what makes this even funnier. deflect all that rage into rooting for your team in 2 weeks. like i said, hostile and saints fans don’t belong in the same sentence right now, so fall back and enjoy the spotlight….

Much of a QB’s success has to do with the scheme in which he plays. To properly compare QBs (or any position, for that matter) you have an unbiased grasp of his fundamental strengths and weaknesses, and how those would project on every other NFL roster. Take Alex Smith of the 49ers, for example. He made considerable strides this season playing in a spread offense. This after years of struggling in more conventional pro schemes. Let’s say he continues to progress in that same system. He could conceivably lead the league in passing yards at some point. What if he does that several years in a row? What if he wins a Super Bowl? All the while, less than a handful of other teams in the league are running the spread. Does that make Smith one of the best? In my opinion, no it doesn’t, because he’s never shown to be adept at running the offenses that most teams run. His value inevitably lies in the 49ers scheme, not his superiorty over his peers on the majority of other rosters. Granted, if you juxtapose he and Tony Romo, Romo may struggle running the spread, just as much as Smith would struggle running the Cowboys offense. Still, Romo would likely find success on MORE TEAMS than Smith would. And that’s really how you have to look at it. Obviously, it doesn’t truly matter what kind of success Brady would have as a Saint, since he’s never going to play for New Orleans. But if you want to draw that comparison (between he and Brees), that’s a hypothetical assessment you simply have to make, and vice versa.

best ol?
yes that same o line that gave up 45 sacks in 08, second most nxt to your team. the only position i trust is the LG and Center. LT light is old. RG Neal is 32 year old who never played football in HS or College and the RT Kazcur sucks and is more suited to be a G than T. From 01-08, they gave up between 41 sacks to 15 sacks in 07. The reason it went down was b/c Brady got rid of the ball faster.
Best receiving corp??
From 01-06….can you mention any WR’s that other non-pats fans remember? NO. Even Dieon Branch never crossed the 1,000 yard mark when he was @ NE. In 06 they used the worst WR i’ve never seen-Rechell Caldwell aka the bug eyed idiot, Jabar Gaffeney – who still now has never been more than a 3rd WR on a team, and Troy Brown- and went to the AFC Champ game where the bug eyed idiot dropped the easiest pass w. no Indy defender covering him to the endzone. Props to Manning for winning that game.
They finally get good WR’s like Moss, Welker and Stallworth and they blow NFL offensive records and were 39 seconds away from perfection.
in 08…well we know what happened in 08
09 was a bad season. madden game style play calling by the new offensive coord. w. no 3rd established WR and a toothless defense.
and yes for the Ravens game…they outplayed, out muscled, and creamed the Pats. i’m not making excuses for the defense but Brady played w. a double covered Moss, a 7th rd rookie (who was a qb in college), and two special teamers WR.
dont know how to rally back?
Brady has 29 4th qtr comeback wins.

oh shit, we agree! unbelievable huh?

for me personally, i don’t count wins and losses as the only stat that counts for QBs. you can be a helluva passer, but that doesn’t mean your defense can stop the run. or that your kicker can make chip shots. more than any game, football is a team sport, so to discount the Dan Marinos or Warren Moons because they didn’t win the big ones is wrong.

it does count how a QB plays in BIG games, and LATE in games. and to each, both Brees and Manning have done well. so i tip my hat to Drew. and i like Drew, his personality cracks me up. you don’t expect someone that looks like him being the one firing up the huddle during pre game.

he is smaller, and to me that makes him stand out even more. i’ll always say Iverson is one of the best, because i’m bigger than him and he did things in b/t the trees that i could never imagine doing. same for brees. seeing over 6’ 8" linemen is tough. he is good, and even better because he’s doing it without having as many physical gifts.

……..ok, i have nothing to debate you about. so i’ve run out of things to say. HEE HEE!