The View from Section 125
Twenty-six years for this?
I hadn't seen a Saints game live since 1983 (the last game of the season, vs. the Rams, we win and we go to the playoffs. We lost). When we bought tickets months ago, this game loomed large, and got loomier and loomier as time went on and the "perfect season" began doing its fan dance onstage. But in the three weeks since the loss against Dallas, interest in this game on both sides collapsed. The Saints played their junior varsity, the Panthers fans stayed home, and the whole affair had a weird, fictitious vibe.
And our camera sucked. What was the point in all this, I wondered. Well may you wonder, as well, after the jump.
Okay, photos, yeah. For some reason that neither of us could fathom, our camera was stuck in "Wait at least one second to trip the shutter" mode. Why is it that cheap digital cameras never say in their user manuals, "Don't even attempt to take action photos with this"? Or maybe that's what "Taking care to timing event, not to take picture please" means.
What it means in practice is that all we could do was frame a photo, push the shutter release at the snap, and pray that something of interest would happen precisely 927 milliseconds later. Apparently we should have lit a candle before the game as well, because Someone wasn't listening. Or maybe it was just too cold.

The team comes out before the game all smiles and fist-pumps and kisses and hugs. This was pretty much the high water mark.

Closeup of Roman Harper. Turn around, Roman! Up here! Hey! Well, at least cover someone.

This was the play on which Jonathan Stewart went over 1100 yards for the season. Why is that other teams always seem to reach milestones against the Saints? Perhaps more to the point is: why were all those wildly-cheering Panthers fans oblivious to the fact that this "historic" occasion was entirely due to an injury to their top runner? Without DeAngelo Williams on the sideline, Stewart doesn't even come close.

Mike Bell in the process of getting dropped for a three-yard loss. Bell had a 1.6 average. Hamilton had a 4.8. Bush had a 7.0. Bell had more carries than Bush and Hamilton combined. Was anyone of importance paying attention to this?

For whatever reason--probably a combination of the extreme cold and the fact that the Panthers' season ended today--the crowd was sparse and quiet. Lots of empty seats. Or maybe this is just a random bad photo that I'm attempting to assign a meaning to.

Or maybe not. THIS is what a random bad shot looks like. I have no idea what this is. Saintsational Dave is offering a free t-shirt to whoever can come up with the best explanation.
More randomness. Here are some impressions, in no particular order...
• This was the coldest I've been at a game since Saints-Steelers in '68 at Tulane Stadium. It was also the coldest home game in the history of the Carolina Panthers. It was also the first time since they tore down Tulane Stadium that I've ever watched the Saints outdoors. And the first time I've seen the Saints lose outdoors. Come to think of it, I have never been present at a Saints victory since Tulane Stadium was terminally renovated. Maybe it's all my fault.
• The Saints were scraping the outside bottom of the barrel. Rod Leisle wasn't even listed in the game program. He came on the field and we wondered, "Who the hell is 95?" Was Anthony Waters upside down?
• Overall, the JV defense played pretty well. The Panthers had only one sustained scoring drive the entire game. Take away Stewart's 67-yard run on the second play, and they held him to 3.8 yards per carry. And you can hardly blame them for giving up field goals when the offense or special teams handed the Panthers a short field.
• Speaking of special teams: they were...well, not bad. Roby's fumble sucked, of course. And Hartley's kickoffs (why was Hartley kicking off?) weren't great. But the coverage for the most part was solid, and Morstead did a good job with the few chances he had to punt. That was a joke. Thanks, I'll be here all week.
• The offense was pathetic. During halftime we watched a competition in which a high school quarterback-receiver pair had one chance to complete the longest pass they could manage. It was a perfect 50-yard strike caught on a dead run. They wore black and gold. Mark Brunell also wore black and gold, and that was the closest he came to equalling that accomplishment. After watching his play, I have to admit that some people (we won't name names, here) completely overestimated what Brunell has left in the tank, which seems to be little more than vapor at this point. I was actually hoping to see Chase Daniel play in the second half, because we really, really need to find someone to back up Drew. Brunell wasn't so much making bad throws (although he was doing that) as making bad decisions: throwing late, or to covered receivers. Anyone who doesn't think that one player can make so much difference to an offense needs to re-watch this game.
• Now, having said that...and this is directed at you, Mr. Panthers Fan: we played with more than just our quarterback sitting on the bench. Our best running back; our top tight end; and second tight end; and our starting center also sat out. Our best guard and a starting tackle had limited playing time. On defense, only one of our starting linebackers had any time at all, and our line was mostly second-stringers. So what was all that strutting we saw after the game all about? What was with all those learned pronouncements about "Those guys will be one-and-done"? Didn't you realize what you were watching? Was it the cold, again?
• And while I'm going off on Charlotte, permit me to continue. The fans were not, for the most part, rude or unpleasant. They were, for the most part, invisible. They might as well have been props. Even at their loudest, I still had no problem hearing the guy two rows and ten seats over when he shouted "Who dat!" Nobody spoke to us; nobody welcomed us, razzed us, trash-talked us, sympathized with us...nothing. A bunch of robots, or maybe a bunch of displaced New Yorkers. Do we treat visitors like this in the Superdome? Seriously, it's been a long time: do we? Because if we do, shame on us. This was like being alone in front of an immense, freezing television with bad commercials.
• And the food is terrible. No matter how much we may love the Saints, and certain other aspects of New Orleans (Mardi Gras, jazz, political corruption), we should never lose sight of the fact that it is our cuisine that really sets us apart. Other cities can brag about their culture, and Chicago is actually more corrupt than we are...but nobody eats like a New Orleanian. The flip side is, nobody is disappointed as often as a New Orleanian. But even so...wouldn't you think that a place called "The French Quarter" and rated four out of five stars on Yelp.com would be something more than a hamburger place? I wish there had been a Frostop's.
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was thinking the same thing
LOVE MY SHOCKMEISTER AND THE COOL BREES!
by N_O_1saintfan on Jan 4, 2010 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
i bet it was parking lot of the stadium - the yellow lines marking the parking spaces
an inadvertent picture
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray
I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY
oops - don't know why it posted twice...
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray
I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY
i bet it was parking lot of the stadium - the yellow lines marking the parking spaces
an inadvertent picture
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray
I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY
Did Brunell do the quarterback slide for a few yards? Could be a skid mark.
Maybe symbolic of the season skidding to an end???
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 4, 2010 12:48 AM CST reply actions
By the way, you know you've had a bad day as a photographer when the captions are better than the pictures! LOL
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 4, 2010 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
i lived in carolina for a while
it is culturally bankrupt.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
-King Leonidas
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 4, 2010 12:59 AM CST reply actions
Pathetic offense
That was the most pathetic offensive display I have seen in a long time.
Brunell is too slow, drops back way too far, and couldn’t connect with a receiver to save his life. Meachem was open on several plays and he couldn’t even get the ball close to him. If Brees goes down we are so screwed….
Defense looked ok but they knew the run was coming and still couldn’t stop it. Let see how they cope against a team with a good running back/quarterback combo. We could be in trouble.
Let’s hope they get it right before the playoffs.
I would ask for a refund from that game...
Hope you live in that area. Good post.
anyone wondering if we should of started brees....
just imagine if he had been injured in this pathetic game and we had to sit here and tell ourselves that Marc was going to be “not that bad”. You can say what you want about trying to get the team going by playing your best players but the potential positives don’t out weigh the potential negatives
Moore had a decent game against the Saints.
Nothing Breesesque, but decent.
I'll be your huckleberry- Doc Holliday to Ringo
About Matt Moore
I think next year will tell. I don’t think you can judge much from this year. After about the first 6 games, no one in the league took your team serious. I am not saying this to be rude, but let’s face it you were not a contender and teams basically put all their resources into scouting other teams and when they put some attention to your team, it was more concern about your run game and defense, which are both decent. Personally I don’t think Matt Moore will be in that upper echelon tier like P Manning, Drew Brees, B Favre and maybe some others. But, he might be like Eli Manning and Alex Smith, Vince Young, – maybe like that good. Who knows, though, time will tell when other teams start accepting that Matt Moore is your starter ( he may or may not be next year) and they start really hitting the film looking for tendencies, weaknesses, which throws he is weak at or stays away from, how he handles blitzes, which routes are good to jump. That’s when you will know what you have.
As far as the “no team has ever lost the last 3 and gone to the Super Bowl”, I would respond that “no team from New Orleans has ever had the top seed and best record in the NFC”, and no team from New Orleans ever had a QB who set the all-time completion % record, and “no team from New Orleans has ever had this good of an offense” and no team from New Orleans ever had the predicament of “do we play to win or rest starters” and no team probably in the history of the NFL went 13-0 and then lost 3 and still won the NFC first seed," One thing about the Saints this season so far, they won every game they HAD TO WIN. As it turns out, the last 3 had absolutely no bearing on their status. There was no hunger and they played like that, in spite of WANTING to play hungry. When you play in the playoffs, you play with your back against the wall. That’s when the Saints are good. And, probably every team they face will now be more beat up than them instead of visa versa.
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
by Philinwood on Jan 4, 2010 9:17 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I remember when the sports yakkers used to say...
“no wildcard team has ever won the superbowl” The list goes on and on. In the playoffs everybody starts 0-0. We are 2 wins from the superbowl. Period.
Rec’d ya Philinwood. Spot on.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 4, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
we don't mind making history
remember how we beat all those undefeated teams in a row? some of them even made the playoffs…
all we have to do is win 3 in a row – we’ve already done that 4 times this season!
(and don’t remind me that to be out, all we have to do is lose 1 in a row and we’ve done that 3 times already this season, too. I’m already well aware of this.)
the truth is we will have to go out and play our best game each week to win in the playoffs and stay alive, let’s have FAITH that we can do it – BELIEVE that it is possible!!!
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray
I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY
clears throat
boom
Bringing families together through incorrect grammar and incoherent thoughts, don't mention it. It's what I do.
You know it's easy for you to say you would have beat our starters
but I think you forget, the only time you played our starters, you lost. So, from my tally, it looks like
Saints Starters 1 Panthers Starters 0
Saints JV 0 Panthers Starters 1
we took care of business when it counted.
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
The meaning of that picture
You guys don’t see the symbolism of that picture? It’s beautiful. The yellow line is clearly the first down line, the goal that we all want to reach in life. A chance to look beyond the mistakes of the past and get an opportunity to make things right as we go for the next “first down”.
The fact that it’s slanted shows that life isn’t always a straight, obvious path. It can be twisted by things beyond our control and made to look like we’ll never get there, that we’ll always be at 4th and inches in life.
The dark blurring around the line shows that life is hard no matter which side of it you’re on. It’s hard getting that “first down”, but once you reach it, it’s just as hard to push on and get another one. But you have to try. You have to push through the darkness, because at some point, there will be no more yellow lines. Just spray-painted grass and a goal post. The things dreams are made of.
I for one will always go for it on fourth down in life. Thank you for the beautiful picture, sir. Thank you.
People with high-blood pressure should consult their doctor and ask if they're healthy enough for Saints activity before rooting for this team.
by Malsby on Jan 4, 2010 9:36 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Ha! I think we have a winner
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 4, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
Have you been hanging out with Shockey again !!!!!!!!!!
I'll be your huckleberry- Doc Holliday to Ringo
Can I have some of 'dem pills? Maybe 'da green one over 'dere???
Shit. . . . . . .I see a rainbow!!!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 5, 2010 4:59 AM CST up reply actions
The picture is...
The blur of Black and Gold as they streak into the Super Bowl…and win it!!!!
Forget the nickel and dime, you'd better bring a half- dollar to deal with this team.--Tony Moss, NFL editor
You'll make your name in the playoffs....
….So with that in mind, here’s a good luck charm.
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Thanks and congratulations
Let’s make a pact: next year, we both shred the Panthers and humiliate the Bucs…and then fight it out for the division between us, the way it was meant to be.
BURN THE BLACK PANTS!!!
You got yourself a deal!
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Three things about that game, all directly related
1) Listening to Billick deride the refs for calling a personal foul against Cap’n Munnerlyn(or whatever the hell his name is) made me want to line him up behind the good Cap’n, and attatch both of their skulls with roofing nails. Hearing some of the only emotion from the stands being strong disagreement with that call was a little disgusting, too, but I can understand why the team’s fans want so badly to believe that choke-slamming a defenseless receiver, ala the ECW, is “just good football”, as long as your corner is doing the slamming. But having to listen to Billick, whose opinions on football I normally respect, explain at unnecessary length how he “just doesn’t see what was penalized”, really made me want him castrated on live tv to the sweet sounds of the Blackeyed Peas.
2), If I were the special teams coach of the Saints, I would have told the punt coverage unit that I wanted at least two of those guys to be ejected from the game for the brutal and unsportsmanlike beating they put on the defenseless punt returner, Cap’n Munnerly, after that move. I wanted to see clotheslines after a fair catch, and stepping on necks.
3) Why the hell did Meachem play after that hit?! I’m glad he’s okay, but why put him in harm’s way more, after getting shaken up that badly, when you’re in the waning moments of a meaningless losing effort, when your completely healthy starting QB is standing on the sideline? That, to me, was Payton’s “stupid moment” of the game.
"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas
Did you want Colston to play instead?
I’m not sure if it was apparent on television, but when the personal foul call was made, the crowd booed. When Meachem finally got up and walked off the field, they booed louder. Real class, Carolina. Glad to know ya.
BURN THE BLACK PANTS!!!
Rather than the guy who just had his head slammed against the ground, and took several minutes to get off the field at all, yes.
It’s not like Brunell could hit the broad side of a barn, anyway. Whatever receiver was out there should have been purely formality.
And the booing was quite apparent on TV. It seems the Panthers and their fans are really gunning for Eagles-caliber respect. Enjoy the offseason, cretins.
"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas
I can't figure out how to quote, but this is in regards to your 1) point
I was so freaking p*ssed after that whole thing. I was screaming like a banshee at the tv and scared my poor dogs. The “hit” was bad enough to make me blow a gasket, but the announcers almost made my head explode! I want them to take that same “hit” and see how they feel about it.
Forget the nickel and dime, you'd better bring a half- dollar to deal with this team.--Tony Moss, NFL editor
by SaintsFan-KS on Jan 4, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m surprised the cops didn’t come by my house after that move! I was livid. It was the only emotion I felt the entire game, apart from the ridiculous Hargrove TD overturned by some unseen “irrefutable evidence” that Moore was touched before losing control of the ball.
"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas
i almost forgot about the chokeslam
that was disgusting… i could have sworn at the time that he had a concussion and would be out for a while. billick’s comments were just stupid considering i havent seen too many head tackles. according to billick, we should just poke matt moore’s eyes out? (as long as he doesnt grab the facemask, of course)
as far as retaliation after the play, its probably a good thing that im not a coach. because i certainly would have had an enforcer running down the field with murderous intentions after that play.
"How you climb the Mountain is just as important as how you get down the Mountain. And,so it is with life , which for many of us becomes a gigantic lesson. In the end it all comes down to one word. Grace . Its how you accept winning and loosing,Good Luck and Bad Luck, The Darkness and the Light.
- Jeremy Shockey (via Twitter)
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 4, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed M-E
The booing after he got up was in a word DISGUSTING. Really great fans they have there.
I'll be your huckleberry- Doc Holliday to Ringo
I live in NC
It’s a nice state but the people are devoid of culture. They have no identity – they speak with southern accents but you can’t call them Southern. I’m really not sure what to think of the place. But having been to the Saints games the past two years in Charlotte, I can definitely say that the visiting Saints fans bring more energy, passion, and love for their organization that the Panthers faithful muster in their own house.
good post, M-E
my thoughts on the hargrove fumble/TD…(although I must admit I did not read all the above comments about it, so if I’m repeating anyone’s thoughts, consider this a +1 to you! :-)
when I saw one version of the replay, it looked like moore was down by contact, and then after another time, I thought…“maybe, MAYBE, the ball was moving before he hit the ground.” Either way, I felt we had a 50/50 shot at having it go our way, so I wasn’t too surprised or disappointed that we lost that one.
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray
I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

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