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Everyone Expects The S.O.S.: We've Got 'Em Right Where We Want 'Em!

As the 2009 playoffs, and the obligatory predictions and observations from the various network sports braintrusts get into full swing, the Saints are, unsurprisingly, given fairly little chance of doing anything impressive in the coming weeks.  They have played arguably their worst month of football since September of 2007, heading into their best playoff position in franchise history.  The surprising thing is just how easy and complete the abandonment of the Saints' bandwagon was for the football gurus of our glowing talkie boxes.

As bad as the Saints have played recently, they still have the best record in the NFC, they are entering the playoffs healthier than any other team in the league, they will not have to play another road game short of making the Super Bowl, and they managed to retain the top offensive ranking, despite taking off from competitive football a week early.  Yet one would be hard-pressed to find an article suggesting the Saints have any hope at all in this second season that wasn't written or filmed in the state of Louisiana.  We all know that no team has ever made the Super Bowl after dropping the last three games of the regular season.  We also all know that no team has ever made the Super Bowl after representing the city of New Orleans for an entire season.  But does anyone recall a less relevant top-bracketed playoff team?  Reading the bold observations of such great football minds as Jeff Chadiha, Steve Wyche, and even supposed NFC South Champion Pat Yasinskas, you'd think the Saints were clinging to the same twig of hope as the New York Jets.

My guess for the last top-seeded playoff team to be as lowly-considered as these Saints is Rex Grossman's 2006 Chicago Bears.  The same Bears that stole the Saints' last great hopes for a championship away from us, despite all indications that the Saints could not be beaten by such an overvalued squad.  That tidbit of meaningless pseudo-trivia gives me some hope.  But the more important and equally unquantifiable correlation that leads me to believe these Saints aren't dead yet is the fact that the best Saints team we fielded this season was the middle-ranked, under-appreciated team of September/October that put one embarrassing  beatdown after another on some of the then-elite NFL squads.  The team that was expected to be clawing desperately at an unlikely third NFC South wildcard spot behind Carolina and Atlanta. This Saints team eats one-and-done predictions and undeniable questions about unfavorable matchups against high-flying smashmouth defenses and solid running attacks for brunch, and craps out 150-yard rushing games, pick-sixes, 4 passing TD's, and 48-to21 thunder!  Metaphorically speaking.

Of course, it could easily turn out that the Saints have truly run out of steam, that Payton and Williams' respective bags o' tricks are already turned inside-out, and that these Green Bay and Dallas fires cannot be easily extinguished.  As a Saints fan, all I've ever known of January is letdown, or rooting for a team I despise to beat a team I despise more.  But this team has crushed a lot of solid teams, and overcome a lot of tough obstacles to earn the right to stage their last stand in front of the toughest "12th man" in the NFL.  And the most hopeful aspect of this January for me is that this team has played it's most inspired football in the games when they were widely criticized and underestimated by brilliant predictioneers like Jason LaCanfora and the bespectacled, thoughtful Howie Long.  For however little it's worth, they really seem to thrive on being the underdog, even when the underdog, in this case, is the best team in it's conference.

So go out there and prove the Swami and the Professor wrong one more time!  And, if it helps any, You suck, New Orleans!  Your run defense is a joke, and your running attack is a mirage!  And Tony Romo and Aaron Rodgers are the greatest quarterbacks in the known universe! Prove me wrong, you bastards.

This FanPost was written by a reader and member of Canal Street Chronicles. It does not necessarily reflect the views of CSC and its staff or editors.

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My sentiments exactly. The MSM pundits have been looking for reasons to jump off the Saints bandwagon all season. Many have been gleefully expecting the wheels to fall off since week two. The main thing to remember is that the people you mentioned are intellectually lazy and unable to really look deep into a team and figure out the core of their being. That’s why most just regurgitate what they hear and read from their colleagues. Expect this same treatment every year until we win a Super Bowl. Hopefully, that will be this year. Most didn’t respect the Patriots and Broncos until they won their first Super Bowls. The same will be for our Saints.

Another big factor is market size. This is why teams like the Cowboys, Patriots, Bears, Eagles, and either New York team are always a team that is heavily talked up each season. It’s just smart business for them because it improves their ratings and circulation and thereby boosts their revenue, which is all they truly care about. It’s why the Cowboys are suddenly the team to beat in the playoffs, despite their very dismal recent history in the playoffs, Tony Romo’s inconsistency problems, and Wade Phillips’ inability in his career to ever take a team to the promised land.

All that said, I like that the Saints are now the underdogs. That’s exactly where we should want to be at this time.

"I said this early on that this was a good football team, they just maybe had to have a stick put in certain parts of their body to play a little harder in certain places to where we’re able to take interceptions and score touchdowns."--Gregg Williams

by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 6, 2010 12:53 PM CST reply actions  

if we beat the shit out of gb or ariz, you think everyone will still look down on us against either dallas or minn?

"How you climb the Mountain is just as important as how you get down the Mountain. And,so it is with life , which for many of us becomes a gigantic lesson. In the end it all comes down to one word. Grace . Its how you accept winning and loosing,Good Luck and Bad Luck, The Darkness and the Light.

- Jeremy Shockey (via Twitter)

by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 6, 2010 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

Interesting that you referenced the beginning of the 2007 season

…because we followed that string of four losses with the best win streak of Payton’s coaching career until this season. All we need now is a run of three wins and Vince moves to Metairie.

BURN THE BLACK PANTS!!!

by MtnExile on Jan 6, 2010 1:42 PM CST reply actions  

Awesome write-up

Let’s not forget Peter King. He dropped the Saints to 7th in his rankings, and Brees to third in the MVP race. This is the same Peter King that had the Saints finishing 7-9 and third in the NFC South. He’s been waiting all season for this moment. He’s a DOLT. I’m not sure how anyone takes him seriously. Frankly, I’m not sure why I even read his column.

He’ll owe WHO DAT Nation an apology. He and all these other so called, “experts.”

by mainesaint on Jan 6, 2010 1:54 PM CST reply actions  

and Mike Golic

He’s one of the laziest. This preseason, much like many others, he predicted the Saints would again go 8-8 mostly because he said he had questions about the defense. He never once said anything about the hiring of our new DC. To listen to him talk, everything would play out just like the 2008 season. I think he even picked the Steelers to win again. Shear laziness. He obviously never even tried to analyze the teams to see who had improved during the offseason. It’s amazing how many of these paid “experts” are the same way.

My advice to all Saints fans would be to ignore all sports sites and TV and radio programs this week especially, except of course for Louisiana programs, CSC, Nola.com, and similar others. You’re not going to like what you get from the others. The others already have us as an afterthought right now and will continue to until next week when our challenger is determined. Then, they’ll mostly say we have no chance. They won’t show us respect again until the night of January 16th when we put the mega-Who Dat beat-down on the unlucky team forced to face us.

"I said this early on that this was a good football team, they just maybe had to have a stick put in certain parts of their body to play a little harder in certain places to where we’re able to take interceptions and score touchdowns."--Gregg Williams

by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 6, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I've learned to just ignore commentators

especially NFL “experts” because they are far from it. Most of the time they are ex-players that are major homers or just don’t do enough work to look at the facts. The only one I ever take seriously is Mike Ditka, Tony Dungy, and Marshal Faulk. Faulk has had the Saints back since the start of this season. Not only because he’s a homer but because our team reminds him so much of his Rams team. He’s the only one on the NFL Network panel that still believes that we’re not a one and done team in the playoffs. Ditka knows the makings of a good team, talent wise, and heart wise. Dungy is probably gives the most honest assesments when it comes to any team.

The rest of the so called experts are just washed up coaches and ex-players that have have rings and are just their because people recognize who they are. They have no real sources of info except from tweets and texts they get from their buddies who still play or are still coaching. They have no journalistic ability what so ever. So there for they have no real opinion in my eyes.

So these so called experts can keep talking out of their asses and repeating the same statistics any regular joe can find on NFL.com while their sitting at work with nothing to do. They can keep swallowing the likes of Brett Farve, the Cowboys and the Patriots. They can keep dismissing Brees as the true MVP and best qb in the league period. They can keep saying that any team can come into our house and win because one desperate team beat us when we had a beat up secondary and really nothing to play for but a 0 in the loss column and another team that had a lucky break in the second half because our offense stalled in the second half for the first time this season. So let them keep talking shit…. nobody thought that New Orleans would rebuild after Katrina… and look what happened.

Bless you boys… if nobody else does… we believe…

Get ready to FEEL DAT BREES!!!

by born in areacode 318 on Jan 6, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll give you Faulk and definitely Dungy

But the game passed Ditka by years ago. He still pronounces New Orleans “New OrLEENS” and the man lived here while coaching the saints.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 6, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

ditka’s analytical skills are nonexistant…

"How you climb the Mountain is just as important as how you get down the Mountain. And,so it is with life , which for many of us becomes a gigantic lesson. In the end it all comes down to one word. Grace . Its how you accept winning and loosing,Good Luck and Bad Luck, The Darkness and the Light.

- Jeremy Shockey (via Twitter)

by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 6, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

I guess I count Ditka cuz i just love Ditka and he pick us to win all the time. LOL

Get ready to FEEL DAT BREES!!!

by born in areacode 318 on Jan 6, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Forgive me, but that’s technically how it SHOULD be pronounced. As opposed to the way I, you and everyone else that lives here pronounces it, I mean. OrLEENS, France. AWlins, France? OrLEEuhns, France? Naw.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 6, 2010 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Well if we're going to be technical

OrlEENS isn’t the proper French pronunciation either. My point is Ditka doesn’t know sh** about New Orleans (pick the pronunciation you prefer).

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 6, 2010 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Or-lee-ohn.

The only thing worse than losing is not winning.

by Tigernut on Jan 7, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Nouvelle Orleans

Let’s be completely technical. “Noo-vel Or-lay-ahn.”

Come on…our city’s name (and yes, I still claim the right to say “our”) is pronounced the way WE prefer it. And that way is…usually…“New Or-luns” (slurred to “Nawlins”). Sometimes “New Or-lyuns.” We only say “Or-leens” when we refer to the parish, or when we sing songs written by outsiders.

BURN THE BLACK PANTS!!!

by MtnExile on Jan 8, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

pronunciation...by neighborhood

The stuffy old ladies in my New Orleans in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s pronounced our city’s name…
Nu Orr lee unz that’s the best I can do phonetically lol…but the Orleans had 3 syllables…later in life it seem to become Nu Awlins and the way I say it now but my daddy always said I had a lazy tounge…for sure your Uptown Lawyers and Doctors and the elders in my family all said they were from, New Orrleeuns, Louisiana with only a slight yat accent.
How did your neighborhood say it?

Gris Gris Man, Voodoo Surgeon General and Master of Witch Doctory

by Gris Gris Man on Jan 10, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m fairly young, but it was always New Orlins, or mlore commonly “the South Shore”, as in,“are y’all going to the South Shore tonight?” I grew up on the North Shore, so I guess it made sense to refer to it as the logical opposite of our name.

"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas

by FuSoYa on Jan 10, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I’ve always said it New ORlins, though I do admittedly say OrLEENS Parish. Wrong or right, New Or-lee-unz Saints sounds better, imo. New Awlins is Vic and Nat’ly lingo. Honestly, that just grates my nerves.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

misheard song lyrics

I used to think that the song (by the Who perhaps?) that went like this….
Whoooooo are you, Who, who,do-do-do was actually saying
Neeeeeeew Orl -lins, new, new, do-do-do

by Comp on Jan 11, 2010 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought the same growing up, and the first thing that

flashes in my head when hearing the song is Neeeew Orl-lins, new, new, do-do-do.

by rustdog74 on Jan 12, 2010 7:04 AM CST up reply actions  

So you think you know better than Merriam Webster?

3 pronunciations in this order:
one
two
three

I say it like two.
Threes get laughed at.

You probably think this song is about you, don't you?

by stujo4 on Jan 6, 2010 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

France

You probably think this song is about you, don't you?

by stujo4 on Jan 6, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

like two

in any case, somewhere along the way we decided to drop a syllable from the french version. but everybody hear says it like #2

"How you climb the Mountain is just as important as how you get down the Mountain. And,so it is with life , which for many of us becomes a gigantic lesson. In the end it all comes down to one word. Grace . Its how you accept winning and loosing,Good Luck and Bad Luck, The Darkness and the Light.

- Jeremy Shockey (via Twitter)

by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 7, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow, ManCrush..

.. cool, tagline. Who knew party-boy was so deep and phlilisophical?

The only thing worse than losing is not winning.

by Tigernut on Jan 7, 2010 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

who knew

that party boy didn’t know how to spell “losing”

I see what you got...Lets rock - Al Bundy

by knucklesmalone on Jan 14, 2010 7:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Has anyone other than me ever noticed....

that residents of New OrLINS also reside in OrLEANS parish? I never have been able to figure that out.

by Drew-Dat on Jan 7, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Never really noticed that, but you’re right. You never hear Awlins Parish.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 7, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

it could be worse

at least we dont pronounce the “s” before the “n” in new orleans like favre does. i still think that is one of the most embarrassing backwoods idioms ever.

now if you excuse me, i have to go to city hall to pay my property tax for orLEENS parish.

"How you climb the Mountain is just as important as how you get down the Mountain. And,so it is with life , which for many of us becomes a gigantic lesson. In the end it all comes down to one word. Grace . Its how you accept winning and loosing,Good Luck and Bad Luck, The Darkness and the Light.

- Jeremy Shockey (via Twitter)

by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 7, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

'Nawlins. NuORlins. New Orleeens. New Orlians. Who cares?

Let’s all just get down on our knees, raise our hands and voices to the Lord, and thank Him profusely that we are not the Dallas Saints!!!!!!!!!

HooooRa! Can I get an amen brothers and sisters?

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 11, 2010 12:52 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

AMEN.....rec' it

DON'T STOP 'TIL WE REACH THE TOP!!!!!!!!
Another SAINTS fan in Panther country!
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!

by SAINTSfaninNC on Jan 18, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep, certainly an exception

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Jan 7, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I've noticed that and always wondered the same thing

makes no sense. What makes even less sense, to me, are the people who say “B-YOUTH” for Burthe St. Where does that come from?

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by Dave Cariello on Jan 7, 2010 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

There’s several street names that don’t make sense …

Bur-GUN-dee … for BUR-ghen-dee.

Kah-lee-OPE … for Ka-LIE-oh-pee.

Con-TIE … for CON-tee.

And arguably the worst … EYE-bur-vil … or IB-bur-vil … for E-bur-vil.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 8, 2010 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

In Austin, TX,

Guadalupe is pronounced “Gwadaloop”, and Manor is pronounced “Maynor”. Go figure.

"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas

by FuSoYa on Jan 8, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL that’s how I’ve always pronounced Guadalupe. What’s it supposed to be? -loopy?

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 8, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I think, in it’s proper Spanish pronunciation, the G would sound like a W, and the end would be “loopay”. Maybe every metro area has to bastardize some pronunciations, to weed out the carpetbaggers, you know?

"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas

by FuSoYa on Jan 8, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you saying there’s no discernable difference between guacamole and Whac-A-Mole?

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 8, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Is that the forty-spice chocolate sauce served on a ping pong paddle?

"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas

by FuSoYa on Jan 8, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget the Bobby Hebert pronunciation...

.. ‘Nyorlins’.

The only thing worse than losing is not winning.

by Tigernut on Jan 7, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Hebert’s such an f—-in’ mush mouth. He cracks me up sometimes.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 8, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

But he is OUR mush mouth.........LOL

DON'T STOP 'TIL WE REACH THE TOP!!!!!!!!
Another SAINTS fan in Panther country!
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!

by SAINTSfaninNC on Jan 18, 2010 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Lemme puditooya disway…(Buddy d classic)

awesome nut

by StDrew on Jan 8, 2010 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Buddy D was evidently under the assumption that we had a WR named Daunte Stallpepper.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I think...

Buddy D should announce AT the Super Bowl…. I can just see people from all over the world scratching their heads trying to discern what he just said and wearing out their DVR’s rewinding to decipher what play he just detailed.

Life is good and thanks for the snork CP… usually it is That Fat Dumb and Happy guy whose grandpappy died in his sleep.

Pulling out the stops.... feeding into the mud in my blood to push into our Saints to Go the Distance....

The VGG is back.

by VoodooGrisGris on Jan 10, 2010 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey, watch it, woman! I though you just "snorked" for me!

Floosey!

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 11, 2010 12:54 AM CST up reply actions  

JND

You give me the best snorks… Multiples even.

Pulling out the stops.... feeding into the mud in my blood to push into our Saints to Go the Distance....

The VGG is back.

by VoodooGrisGris on Jan 11, 2010 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Boom! (If you know what I mean.) :-)

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 12, 2010 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

ROFLMAO

at myself… I meant Bobby Hebert…. Buddy D might be quite the trick to get him to the game.. and if we did we might as well have him do it with Hap… Heck they will probably be doing it in heaven….. for all the Saints Up there…

Pulling out the stops.... feeding into the mud in my blood to push into our Saints to Go the Distance....

The VGG is back.

by VoodooGrisGris on Jan 11, 2010 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

and then he's always talking about Pat Yazinsky from espn.com

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2010 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Peter King

also picked the Bears to win the Superbowl this year. He was real close on that one.

"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." --Mike Tyson

by vicvega26 on Jan 8, 2010 1:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't want to play us in the divisional round

3 weeks to game plan, rehab, read the B.S the haters are spewing. Some poor team is about to run into a buzz saw in the dome on Jan 16. We might hang 50 points. Then watch the experts start going back on their predictions.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 6, 2010 2:47 PM CST reply actions  

I think we are good to go if that idiot Berman picks against us

  every time he picked against us we won, so lets hope he picks us

LOVE MY SHOCKMEISTER AND THE COOL BREES!

by N_O_1saintfan on Jan 6, 2010 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

isn't this where Cold Pizza enters

and tells us how bad our defense is ( ESPECIALLY LBs Shanle and Fujita- and Safety Roman Harper and how Reggie should be playing Canadian Football and we should fire GW?

Sheesh, I can’t understand how this site tolerates him. It’s like he’s a Panther’s fan tolling OUR SITE!!

"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking

by Philinwood on Jan 6, 2010 7:22 PM CST reply actions  

well, he backs up everything with stats,

he admits when he’s wrong, and he knows that the TRUTH IS OUT THERE and he always wants to find the truth and bring it to light.

I may not agree with what he says or how he says it, but he does his homework and he doesn’t let incorrect statements go unquestioned, so I can appreciate his efforts…

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

by Hans Petersen on Jan 6, 2010 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

This is just a bit of statistic-free cheerleading. I don’t know what interest he’d have in “disproving” any of it. I imagine he hopes for about the same outcome as anyone else here, when gametime arrives.

"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas

by FuSoYa on Jan 6, 2010 8:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It just doesn't seem so (about CP) and if you want stats look below.

"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking

by Philinwood on Jan 6, 2010 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

stats say we are 13-3 in 2009 and 8-8 2008 -stats = #1 ranked offense both years (non variable) what is the variable?

hint- what changed ? the offense or the defense? Hint, hint – look at turnovers!! Isn’t that what we bitched about last year?

"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking

by Philinwood on Jan 6, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

careful there, Herr Hans
well, he backs up everything with stats,

A lot. Not everything. Not by a long effing shot.

You probably think this song is about you, don't you?

by stujo4 on Jan 6, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

he admits when he’s wrong, and he knows that the TRUTH IS OUT THERE and he always wants to find the truth and bring it to light.

Well, he’s a fine upstanding young man! I think he’ll do.

You probably think this song is about you, don't you?

by stujo4 on Jan 6, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

then I took off my hat and said "Imagine that! Me, working for you."

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Signs! Signs!

Everywhere are signs! “Do this”, “Don’t do that” Can’t you reeaad the siiiiiiigns.

CSC Karaoke.

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by Dave Cariello on Jan 7, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

we always end up here...and I'm not even drunk tonight

but if I hear Looking Glass kicking out Brandy I’m gonna let loose with some crooning and you all will cry because you’ve never been so moved by the heartfelt plight of a waitress in a port town…

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2010 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

oops I meant harbor town

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2010 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

and Ralph's picks column mentioned some signs, too

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2010 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

ok, i should have said, "it seems to me that.."

he backs up everything with stats

I don’t read everything he writes.

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

sorry I disagree- he has facts and then after that, it all breaks down

he says our defense sucks, our DC should be replaced, our defense has not improved and Reggie is an imposter. Reggie has done many wonderful things, albeit not as many as we want or expected ( but we also have Colston, Meachem, PT , Shockey , Evans (well for a while) I mean think about it – none of those guys made the PRO Bowl and they are all Pro Bowl Caliber. That’s how many weapons we have!! But, but, but, our defense is essentially #1 or #2 in the NFL in turnovers, depending on how you look at it. We were 8-8 last season and now we are 13-3. No playoffs 2008- top seed 2009. #1 offense 2008 and #1 offense 2009. So, what is the difference- the Cheerleaders? The food? The weather? It has to be the defense and those turnovers. The defense made the difference and propelled us!! The offense didn’t go from like #18 to #1!!! The defense improved and our team improved and our record improved. But he says our defense sucks and our DC should be released. Sorry, I think he should go root for Atlanta. Sheesh!!!

"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking

by Philinwood on Jan 6, 2010 8:46 PM CST reply actions  

ATLANTA!!!

That’s harsh even for Deckape!

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 6, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

You, my friend, only read what you want to read. I have never said our defense sucks. I have never said our DC should be replaced. I HAVE said our defense has not improved SIGNIFICANTLY, because it hasn’t … in yards surrendered. It’s the defensive statistic that I, personally, find most telling in terms of improvement from one season to the next. Not number of yards persay, because the game is constantly evolving more towards the pass, but in the ranking of the team in that category among the other 31 teams. If you want to masturbate to statistics YOU deem more meaningful, more power to you. If a graph of any one NFL team’s season-to-season takeaways more closely resembles the design on Charlie Brown’s shirt, than Richard Dreyfuss’s mashed potato plateau, I can perfectly understand why this year’s impressively pointy peak might be of paramount relevance to someone so geared towards the silver lining. Getting back to your false remarks, Reggie isn’t an imposter. He’s just Reggie. The same Reggie that does many wonderful things in your mind. The same Reggie that earns a paycheck roughly as often as Charles Grant in mine. Your list of Pro Bowl caliber players would be even more impressive, if the Pro Bowl meant squat. If my agreeing with you flatters, everyone you mentioned is entirely capable of getting unscientifically voted into a game, by their peers, fans and coaches. How that separates us from the rest of the pack — or, ore importantly, diffuses my opinion of them, be that opinion good or bad — I have no idea. Evans DID make the Pro Bowl, btw. Unless you’re talking about Heath Evans, who has started a grand total of 12 games in an illustrious 9 year NFL career. Clearly among the elite FBs. Clearly. The primary differences, at least in my opinion — which in no way, shape or form am I lobbying you to subscribe to — are a 4th place schedule, a series of fortunate matchups against inexperienced QBs to begin the season, a few lucky breaks, missed chip shot FGs, freakish double-turnovers, etc., ABSOLUTELY the early season turnovers … never once did I downplay their importance to the current team’s success, I merely said it’s nothing to be basing the progress of the defense on, in terms of individual evaluation. Especially when said evaluation is of the person COACHING the biggest difference makers — Greer, Porter, Sharper — not the difference makers themselves. Greer was a top free agent acquisition. Porter showed promise long before Williams ever arrived. Sharper was a solid DB for years. Now, if Usama Young was returning three INTs for TDs or leading the league in picks, then I’d probably be more inclined to say right on, Gregg Williams. And really, even then you’d have the position switch to consider. Probably a bad example. The point being, what I saw early on can be attributed to many other factors besides a fresh face in the front office. In any case, you’re misunderstanding me, if you think I don’t view the turnovers as an important factor in our 2009 success. Finding a $100 bill in a rented tuxedo pocket is a pretty neato occurrence, too. That doesn’t mean I’m going to recommend that particular tuxedo shop — or brand, or color, or style of tuxedo — based on that. Now, if I found a $100 bill EVERY TIME I rented a grey, double-breasted size 46L tuxedo from Fred’s Quick Rentals on Gravier St. … hell, I STILL wouldn’t recommend renting there. I’d be breaking into the place after hours, rummaging through the pockets of grey tuxedos. What I’m saying is, until I see a direct corrulation, like wickedly obvious improvement in the guys we had in the fold all along, some sense of regularity in takeaways regardless of the opposition, anything along those lines, I’m not going to champion the guy as the reason for the season. Williams himself said he’s no Messiah, so why are you making him out to be one? In my eyes, they’re roughly the same MEDIOCRE — not suckass — bunch they were last year, save for a few nice plays by a few up-and-coming (and in Sharper’s case only, borderline HOF) athletes. That may be entirely offbase. What I saw in the first 8 or 9 games of the year could be the tip of the Dome Patrol part deux iceberg, After all, Blaine Bishop and Jevon Kearse were never the same dominating players outside of Williams’s tutelage. There’s really nothing to substantiate that HERE, though. Outside of that flurry of early season pigskin snatchings, I mean. As far as cheering for the Falcons goes, I’ll be sure to do just that, the day I move to Atlanta. Trouble is, I can barely tolerate the heat/humidity in the current deliciously-fooded, consistently-entertaining hellhole I live in … so, that particular relocation venue probably isn’t in the cards for me anytime real soon. Cincy, KC, Denver … yooz guys are still on my new stomping grounds radar. More on that in the offseason.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 6, 2010 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Paragraphs, young grasshoppa. (Sowwy).

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 6, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Denver needs more Saints fans CP

I think I’m the only one…

Good Post, good points.

I think my only thing is that when I’m analyzing something that has a clear beginning, middle, and end (e.g. A contract/job). I wait until the end for my verdicts. There is no problem with collecting data and forming opinions along the way. I just think when you start asking questions like “is GW worth it?”, “has he really done anything?” in the midst of our single greatest season ever… well. It rubs people the wrong way I suppose. Not me, but I don’t really care what you think, I’ll just read it…

by 10up on Jan 6, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree, but I’m under the interpretation that it was only a one year deal and what we’ve seen is pretty much all the Saints are going to have to go by when calling that shot. As is, it’s an iffy call, imo. If it’s indeed a longer contract, then by all means, let the guy’s tenure run its course, unless we’re like 30-32nd in the league in every statistical category, with absolutely nothing to hang our hats on whatsoever. Unless you’re up against a wall, the status quo isn’t reason enough for drastic changes. I agree with that.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 6, 2010 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

regardless of the length of the contract

the goal (end) is to win a SuperBowl. If and when that happens is when we should talk about who should or shouldn’t lose their job, or be offered extensions, whichever way you want to say it, it means the same thing.

Frankly if that goal is achieved I don’t really see there being much talk in that area though….

by 10up on Jan 6, 2010 11:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Nor I. Although, if they win the Super Bowl due to a tremendous defensive turnaround and Williams’s contract is indeed up, then they’ll be a whole lot of talk in that area. Several other NFL teams included. Big if, though. I didn’t start any “let’s critique Gregg Williams” threads, btw. Nor would I have. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever called for the head of a Saints assistant coach. Not many head coaches, either. I’m much quicker to direct blame/praise towards players.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 6, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

i agree most of the praise or blame should go towards the players

but the coaches have to come up with a scheme and make sure that the players buy into the scheme. i dont think we have had a problem with the players buying into the scheme on either side of the ball. and i dont think that gw told the players to over pursue and forget about containing the end on the second play of the carolina game. what worries me is the ridiculous amount of blitzes we call when we can neither get pressure or cover deep. hopefully he was just “trying” some different things and greer and porter really do make that much of a difference.

"How you climb the Mountain is just as important as how you get down the Mountain. And,so it is with life , which for many of us becomes a gigantic lesson. In the end it all comes down to one word. Grace . Its how you accept winning and loosing,Good Luck and Bad Luck, The Darkness and the Light.

- Jeremy Shockey (via Twitter)

by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 7, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Btw, if I wind up moving to Denver, I’ll be a Broncos fan, first and foremost. Do their home games regularly sellout? Just curious. I haven’t even begun to investigate stuff like that yet. I’m sure I’ll always have some level of rooting interest in the Saints, though.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 6, 2010 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Btw, if I wind up moving to Denver, I’ll be a Broncos fan, first and foremost.

This I still can’t really wrap my head around. Will you still like the Saints as a second team? How can you just flip a switch like that? When you say fan, do you mean support and follow only or are you also including love and care about?

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by Dave Cariello on Jan 6, 2010 11:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I don’t really know, because I’ve never moved on to another NFL team before. I would do everything in my power to have Broncos season tickets. I know that, for a fact. I live and breathe NFL football. I also find it to be of the utmost importance to support the team that plays in the city in which you reside. Love and care about … that’s tough to say. As of now, there are probably 5 or 6 other teams that I truly LIKE. Like as in pull for, whenever they’re playing anybody but the Saints. The majority of those are from cities I’ve been considering moving to for a long time, though. So, once I finally do move, does that admiration simply evaporate? Or should I say, revert back to the take-em-or-leave-em rest of the pack? No idea. That being said, I can’t see myself ever considering the Saints “just another NFL team”. Maybe if they moved to another city and changed their name and uniforms, like the Titans or Ravens. I’m sure not too many former Oilers/Browns fans give a sh*t about those two teams anymore. A Colts situation obviously wouldn’t matter as much, as I’d also be removed from that dynamic myself. I’m sure Saints fans outside of New Orleans can relate to that. Generally speaking, the Saints will always be ONE of my favorite teams, just as the Steelers are still ONE of my favorite teams (I lived in Pittsburgh when I was younger). Whether 2nd, 3rd … 7th favorite … I can’t speculate that. Just depends on how far removed I feel from the team from a non-local fans’ perspective. I used to be an avid SuperSonics follower, back when Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton played for them. By the time they moved to Oklahoma City, I had pretty much lost all interest in them. Had I lived in Seattle, it probably would have crushed me. I’m sure you understand what I’m getting at.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 6, 2010 11:43 PM CST up reply actions  

That's why I'd still be a Saints fan

if they moved to the moon. I’ve never lived in/visited the city of New Orleans. I adopted the team as a kid and have stayed loyal. Probably the only benefit of being an out-of-towner. I do hope to one day make it down there and get the Hell away from this snow, though.

by WhoDat_OH on Jan 7, 2010 8:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Where are you in Ohio?

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 7, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

About 60 miles from me. :)

by FriarBob on Jan 9, 2010 3:13 AM CST up reply actions  

It's not a switch I can flip either, but I understand CPs dilemma

Grew up a diehard Saints fan.
Lived in Nashville several years and became a casual Titans fan, even attended some of their games, but the Saints were still MY team. Ultimately had to get NFL Ticket so I could watch them every Sunday.
Recently, I came very close to accepting a job in Tampa. As an NFL fan, not to mention wanting a fun family activity to share, I had conceded that I would probably have to buy seasons tickets to the Bucs games. The hated Bucs! Could I possibly become a fan of THE BUCS? No. I just couldn’t do it. But at least I would get to see the Saints in person once a year. Every other game I was just going to root for the Bucs opponent., then go home an watch Tivo of the Saints. Diehard fans are just that— they die hard. Thankfully, I was able to stay here in the Gulf South.
So CP I have a feeling it’s going to be really hard for you to stop being a Saints fan, no matter where you live. Maybe moving to a town with an AFC team would at least allow you to become a fan of the home team (like I was in Nashville). But don’t be surprised if you start searching for a bar where Saints fans hang out, or you end up ordering NFL Sunday ticket on direct tv.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 7, 2010 7:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, unless it’s a bar within the stadium, I don’t think that’ll be possible. Even then, I’m not going to neglect a live game that I paid to see, in favor of a game on TV, regardless of who’s playing, unless the game is ridiculously lopsided or the weather is just downright unbearable. TiVo’s always an option. And when one team or the other plays on Sunday or Monday night, obviously.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 7, 2010 8:26 AM CST up reply actions  

They ebb and flow it seems

I’ve only lived here for about 5 months, so I’m not too familiar. And I don’t know about you but that isn’t a flip I can switch. I really gave a solid effort in trying to like the Bronco’s. It’s just impossible. This place is great, really, but the fans are sooooo over the top. Nothing but Bronco’s, all the f’n time. I just get sick of hearing about it. Plus they blow. End result? I farking hate the Broncos…

I had to start paying attention to an entirely new pro Sport to start caring about Denver. Go Nuggets!

by 10up on Jan 6, 2010 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, sucking isn’t exactly a deterrent for me. I’ve been a Saints season ticket holder since the John North regime. Kind of grown accustomed to pulling for the underdog. Nothing but Broncos wouldn’t affect me much, either. New Orleans is nothing but Saints 24/7 these past few years and I have yet to lose interest in the rest of the league. As far as Denver goes, the weather definitely appeals to me. And all four major sports. KC and Cincinnati don’t offer basketball and hockey. Not that I’m a huge Hornets fan — definitely would be, if I could afford season tickets to both — but I do typically attend a half dozen or so games a year and thoroughly enjoy it, when I do. I visited KC last year and loved just about everything about the place. Just passed through Cincy at night. I want to get back up there, out to Denver for the first time and make a decision relatively soon.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 7, 2010 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I don’t understand how it would be possible to stop considering the saints your favorite team even if you do move to another city considering how long you have been rooting for them. I have known quite a few people that moved to Houston and continue supporting the Saints. Do you really think you would be able to switch that easily after that many years as a fan of the Saints?

by icarus on Jan 7, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Perspective of a Saints fan who moved from New Orleans 35 years ago.

(This turned out being much longer than I anticipated when I started. Most normal people won’t give a crap about my perspective anyway. But as I had time to kill and it’s already written, I’ll go ahead and post it while at the same time apologizing for it’s length to anyone who might take the time to read it)

I technically moved from N.O. in 1970 to go to school at LSU, so that doesn’t really count. I moved to Houston in ‘75 and have lived here ever since with the exception of a 4 year stint in Dallas and a 1 year stint in Atlanta. I’ve never waivered from being a loyal Saints fan. CP – depending on how long you’ve lived in New Orleans, I think totally switching allegence to another team may be more difficult than you might imagine. However, living somewhere other than N.O. the majority of my life has probably influenced my perspective regarding teams other than the Saints.

I’ve noticed over the years that fans (of any city’s team) that “hate” other teams are more often fans that have lived in that city all their life (or all their adult life). People with loyalty to a “home town” team who have lived in different areas for a significant period are more often open minded regarding their views of other teams, although I know at least one person who goes against this generality. Personally, I’m all over the map regarding teams other than the Saints, but my likes and dislikes are more often due to specific players, coaches or owners rather than the team as a whole.

I have some very close friends who live in Dallas and are Cowboy fans. When I lived there, I “kinda” liked them due to my admiration for Tom Landry. Now, I’m one of the relative minority that neither ‘love" nor “hate” them. But, I never root for them since Jerry Jones came into the picture unless it’s a rare circumstance where the Saints benefit by their having a victory. I have a few friends that are big Falcon fans. Unlike many Saints fans, I actually root for the Falcons when they are in the playoffs and the Saints aren’t, but this is more due to wanting the NFC South getting the nationwide reputation for being the tough division we already know it is… so, I suspect this would also be the case if I hadn’t lived there for a short time or have friends who live there.

When the Oilers were in Houston, I became a fan of theirs largely because Bum Phillips and several of their players (Earl Campbell, Dan Pastorini for ex.) were very “likable” people. When Bum left and was replaced by the likes of Jerry Glanville and Eddie Biles, my interest in them quickly vanished. (Side Note: to this date, my favorite poster ever seen at an NFL game was in the Astrodome and read – “It’s Time For a Biles Movement”.) It’s also good that I moved to a city with an AFC team as it makes it much easier to like a team that will probably only play the Saints once every four years. A fact that could be beneficial for CP given his choice of potential cities to move to.

However, since the Texans have come into the NFL, it’s been very difficult for me to be anything other than ambivalent toward them. I want to see them to well for the sake of the city I live in, but I don’t get too upset when they don’t. Unfortunately for the team, most people I know here feel the same way. In the area of town I live in at least, I think there are probably more Saints fans than there are Texan fans. I’ve only been to one Texans game and that was on one of the rare occassions they played the Saints. At that game, I saw nearly as many Saints jerseys as I saw Texans jerseys. I think this is partially due to so many people living in Houston who are originally from Louisiana and the fact the Saints became somewhat of an “adopted” team for many Houstonians when the Oilers left. (The years between the Oilers and Texans were the only time since I’ve lived here that I could routinely watch the Saints on TV without leaving my house.) Another thing that keeps the Texans from having a larger fan base than they do is because so many people living in Houston are from somewhere else and brought team loyalities to some other team with them. It’s unusual to meet a native Houstonian who is younger than 20 something. But whatever the reason, it’s safe to say that Houston has never embraced the Texans to nearly the extent they did the Oilers.

A couple of other football obersvations I’ve made living here: First, Houston is probably the only city in Texas where the majority of residents don’t like the Cowboys. (People unfamiliar with Houston are often surprised to learn it is perhaps more cajun than cowboy hats and boots. Keep in mind, we’re only an hour and a half drive from the Louisiana border.) Second, the easiest way for love of a team to turn to hate and resentment is for them to move to another state and change their name. Mention of the word “Oilers” in Houston typically results in either nostalgia or obscenities about Bud Adams. But, on the rare occassion you see someone wearing a Titans jersey at a sports bar, it usually gets the same reaction as someone wearing a pro-abortion tee shirt at a right to life rally.

I do have one friend living here whom I’ve known since I was in high school in New Orleans. He loves the Saints and LSU Tigers and proudly “hates” everyone else. While these are also my favorite teams, unlike him, I will be rooting for UT tonight almost as much as if it were LSU playing for the National Championship. Also unlike him, the Steelers are my second favorite team and have been for 30 years. I was happy when they won the Super Bowl last year. Keep in mind, UT won’t be playing LSU and the Steelers weren’t playing the Saints. I’ve often joked with my friend that he is a Saints fan and a Tigers fan, but he’s not a real football fan. My theory is, how can you really love a sport if you hate 99% of the organizations that comprise that sport?

Having other teams I’ve liked and followed, however, has never deminished my love and loyalty to the Saints. There is nothing any other team could possibly do that would bring me as much joy as the Saints winning a Super Bowl. When that happens, I have a feeling that I’ll realize I just thought I was happy when LSU won their two BCS championships. As elated as I was on those nights, I didn’t cry. When the Saints win a Lombardi trophy, I’m pretty sure I’ll break down like a baby.

  

by Drew-Dat on Jan 7, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Didn't they teach you how to spell 'wavered' at LSU?

The only thing worse than losing is not winning.

by Tigernut on Jan 7, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

teehee

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

by Hans Petersen on Jan 8, 2010 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

im more like your friend

my whole family went to tulane so i was never much of a college fan. but pure hatred for everyone else at least as far as the nfl is concerned.

"How you climb the Mountain is just as important as how you get down the Mountain. And,so it is with life , which for many of us becomes a gigantic lesson. In the end it all comes down to one word. Grace . Its how you accept winning and loosing,Good Luck and Bad Luck, The Darkness and the Light.

- Jeremy Shockey (via Twitter)

by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 7, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

sweet avatar

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray

I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

by Hans Petersen on Jan 7, 2010 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

If I had to break all 32 NFL teams down, the Saints would be in a tier by themselves, but only because they’re my hometown team. If New Orleans was no longer my hometown, they’d inevitably either fall into the next tier (teams I tend to pull for regularly), or they’ll invent their own (teams I ALWAYS pull for, UNLESS they happen to be playing my hometown team). Currently, there is no such team as that. Teams shift around in my sub-tiers all the time. That includes the Steelers and I lived in Pittsburgh when I was younger. At this point, it doesn’t matter. Every player I associated the Steelers with has long since retired, so they’re just a team I tend to pull for regularly now. It’s not steadfast, though. I pulled for both the Seahawks and the Cardinals against them in the Super Bowl, primarily because neither of those two teams have ever won one and Pittsburgh was playing for their 5th and 6th titles. I don’t see that being the case for the Saints anytime soon, so I’m sure I’d still pull for them in the Super Bowl against whoever, provided it’s not my new hometown’s team. The rest of the NFL stacks up as “take-em-or-leave-em” teams (there’s currently about 20 of those) and maybe five or so teams I don’t particularly care for. Those being Atlanta, Oakland, Dallas, Indianapolis and Baltimore. There are no teams that I despise. I would pull for any of them, if they happened to be my hometown team. That being said, there are a few NFL cities in which I would never want to live.

“My theory is, how can you really love a sport if you hate 99% of the organizations that comprise that sport?”

I wholeheartedly agree with that. That’s definitely not me. Wherever I wind up, I’m going to be diving in head first. Being partial to run-heavy, defense-driven football, I honestly don’t think I’ll have a problem adjusting. I think just about every NFL team out there better fits that description. I’m also looking forward to witnessing games played in the snow. I’ve never experienced one in person. The (winter) elements are too big a part of professional football history for me not to want a part of that. I’m just looking forward to the change of scenery and being able to discover the every day ins-and-outs of a new team from scratch for the first time since the 1970s.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 8, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I miss the Saints-Oilers rivalry. I wish they would have been in the same division, especially when Bum was here. How the hell is Robert Brazile not in the HOF?

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 8, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I’ve lived in 49ers territory (the City itself), Seahawks territory, and now Panthers territory. They all suck. I’ve never wavered…Saints, baby, all the way!

BURN THE BLACK PANTS!!!

by MtnExile on Jan 8, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I’d also be willing to bet that you didn’t purchase season tickets to any of them, thereby giving yourself a legitimate opportunity to waver. For more on the “try it, you might like it” ideology, please see Green Eggs & Ham.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 8, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I haven't been home (Louisiana) for over 20 yrs......I wore the BLACK & GOLD from CA to FL to VA and now in NC!!! WHO DAT

DON'T STOP 'TIL WE REACH THE TOP!!!!!!!!
Another SAINTS fan in Panther country!
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!

by SAINTSfaninNC on Jan 18, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I wear Black & Gold almost ever day here in Dallas...

Some people respond with “Who Dat!” some respond with frowns and geers.

NOLA transplant in DFW. I bleed Black & Gold. Saints go all the way... I BELIEVE!

by Dan Kelly on Jan 18, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

how can you really love a sport if you hate 99% of the organizations that comprise that sport?

Maybe I intellectualize this too much, but, to me, the loving and hating is an integral part of sports fandom. I don’t know how one could not hate the Falcons, as a Saints fan, for example. That doesn’t mean I can’t respect any parts of the Falcons organization, if I deem it deserving. I can say Matt Ryan is a legitimate up-and-comer, and Roddy White is a big-play threat on every down, and even root for them in the playoffs, right after saying,“EFF the Dirty Birds! I hope they all fall down an elevator shaft, one after another!” It’s as much a part of fandom as the forward pass is a part of the game. To me, it’s a lot like tattoos. To not instantly regret a tattoo, you have to realize that a certain kind of regret comes with all tattoos. Regret is an integral part of the tattoo experience(unless you get some kind of tattoo that makes you a brother in some crack-military squad or something). You can’t love the thing, without experiencing, and being somewhat intimate with, the ugliness of the thing.

"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas

by FuSoYa on Jan 8, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

To further illustrate, right now I find myself really respecting Tom Brady’s toughness. He will be playing in the playoffs with a few cracked ribs, and a broken finger on his throwing hand. That guy must not know how to give up! But if the Saints(or really any non-dynastic team) were called for roughing the passer because of a mildly late hit on Brady, I’d likely start bellowing madly,“OOOH, NOBODY CAN BREATH ON TOM TERRIFIC! FOR GOD”S SAKE, NOBODY UPSET THE DELICATE GENIUS!" That reaction would have more to do with my feelings on the inflated quarterback protection rules, and on pro football dynasties, than with my thoughts on Brady’s actual fragility. That may make me an idiot, but I think it helps describe the strange condition of sports fanaticism.

"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas

by FuSoYa on Jan 8, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Mr. Philosophy

Who are you all of a sudden…Jeremy Shockey? :)

BURN THE BLACK PANTS!!!

by MtnExile on Jan 8, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL I honestly don’t hate the Falcons. I often root against them because their losing typically helps the Saints. If the Saints’ well being isn’t part of that equation, they’re just another NFL team. All things equal, I’ll usually pull for Carolina and/or Tampa Bay over Atlanta, but even that varies. If Carolina was 13-0 and both the Saints and Falcons were out of the playoff hunt, I’d want to see the underdog Falcons (or Cowboys, or Ravens or any of the few other teams I don’t particularly care for normally) pull the upset.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 8, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm the same in that I never root for a any different NFC South team....

unless it’s a situation where a win by them benefits the Saints. But, I would most likely root for any of them, including the Falcons, if they were in the playoffs and the Saints weren’t. With me, it’s a divisional pride sort of thing. While I get the large market / big media connection, it doesn’t make me any less tired of the media pretending the NFC East is the SEC of pro football.

I suspect that FuSoYa could never bring himself to root for the Falcons under any circumstance other than it benefiting the Saints. If that suspicion is correct, it doesn’t make one of us wrong and one of us right. I can relate in the sense that I’ve found myself “hating” the Falcons during the heat of a very emotional battle. This happened once when Bobby Hebert led the Falcons to a playoff victory over the Saints. I was so torqued, I was wishing out loud that their team plane would crash. If I had to defend that statement in court, I would use the temporary insanity plea. If that didn’t work, I’d go with a “crime of passion” angle. .Fortunately, my wish didn’t happen and Bobby was able to return to the Who Dat Nation. After I sobered up, the Falcons just went back to being a team “I don’t particularly care for normally” (to borrow CP’s phrase).

by Drew-Dat on Jan 8, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

On the contrary,

I meant to say that “hating” the Falcons is part of loving the Saints. I really kinda like the Falcons. They have put together a solid team whose offensive balance is something I think the Saints should(and do) strive for, and their front office made lemonade of a really terrible situation in nearly record time, following the Vick conviction. BUT since my team is the Saints, I ******G(note the adherence to the new truncating policy) HATE THE DIRTY BIRDS! In my mind, the two feelings are not mutually exclusive, and both directly relate to one’s “love of the game”, part of the game being mindless adherence to my chosen team’s best interests. If the Dirty Birds were the last team standing in the NFC South, I’d easily(maybe a strong word) root for them out of divisional pride. Also, because an NFC South Super Bowl only serves to prove by association the Saints’ ability to play competitively with the best in the NFL.

"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas

by FuSoYa on Jan 8, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m like the 72 dolphins. “They can’t both lose?”

by FriarBob on Jan 9, 2010 3:16 AM CST up reply actions  

“I ******G(note the adherence to the new truncating policy)”

I laughed a good 45 seconds at that.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 1:16 AM CST up reply actions  

i hate the falcons soooo much

i remember going to a braves game (all of my friends from south carolina were braves fans) and cheering for the away team. i had to explain a million times that my saints fanhood prevented me from cheering for anything in atlanta.

"How you climb the Mountain is just as important as how you get down the Mountain. And,so it is with life , which for many of us becomes a gigantic lesson. In the end it all comes down to one word. Grace . Its how you accept winning and loosing,Good Luck and Bad Luck, The Darkness and the Light.

- Jeremy Shockey (via Twitter)

by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 9, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I rooted for the Atlanta Flames in 1980, when Jim Craig was their goaltender. I also pulled for the Hawks when I was very young, primarily because Pistol Pete was God at the time.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 10, 2010 1:21 AM CST up reply actions  

wow...

I grew up in New Orleans went to all the early Saints games in old Tulane Stadium and as I grew I moved. I have lived in NYC, Los Angeles, Washington DC, Washington State, Nevada, MS….

And never once in all those years and all those seasons where we were laughed at did it ever once occur to me to be a fan of any other team OVER the Saints. Sure I like the Giants, I even liked the Rams and loved going to Redskins games but never ever could I be a fan for any other team over The Saints. They are my team wherever I live for as long as I live…

Whether they are in a season like this or a season where you just want to cry… I can’t imagine it… But…

To each his own.

Pulling out the stops.... feeding into the mud in my blood to push into our Saints to Go the Distance....

The VGG is back.

by VoodooGrisGris on Jan 19, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Well said VGG..........rec' it

DON'T STOP 'TIL WE REACH THE TOP!!!!!!!!
Another SAINTS fan in Panther country!
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!

by SAINTSfaninNC on Jan 19, 2010 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Boom!

If there were no longer a Saints Team I would take up gardening.

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 19, 2010 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

And I bet

You would look adorable in a pair of gardening clogs… but I bet they would be black and gold.

Pulling out the stops.... feeding into the mud in my blood to push into our Saints to Go the Distance....

The VGG is back.

by VoodooGrisGris on Jan 20, 2010 5:48 AM CST up reply actions  

extraneous

"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking

by Philinwood on Jan 7, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure about underdog status

This Saints team is still the most dangerous team in the NFC. They’ve got a Top 3 QB, a ridiculous corps of WR’s, a tandem of quality RBs, a clutch TE, a good OL, and now a healthy secondary for the first time in months.

The defense will look different in the playoffs, I’m not even worried about that. Having Greer and Porter back will allow Williams to get more action fronts and box schemes than when he had to leave extra guys in coverage to help out Jenkins or Gay. Sharper will be able to sit on routes again. No more vanilla coverage.

A final thought: the last time the Saints had a bye week they came back and hit the 5-0 New York Giants into next year. Yeah.

People with high-blood pressure should consult their doctor and ask if they're healthy enough for Saints activity before rooting for this team.

by Malsby on Jan 6, 2010 9:01 PM CST reply actions  

Remember playing o'possum ??

That’s what the offense has been doing. Hopefully we have lured our opponents into thinking that we’ve had a premature excecution of offense and have nothing left. That must be why the GGM did the Spell O Nuts, to reload so to speak. They think that we are empty but the fact is that we have a full metal jacket and are loaded for bear!! Now, the defense on the other hand has had an array of beat up old men and dumb rookies in the pass defense for the last 6 weeks because of injuries to our ‘A" gamers. They will be healthy now and will have no excuses. As for the D’ line and secondary their poor defense of the run play for the last few weeks has been so inexcusable that it can only be an intentional plot or scheme to lull our opponents into a false sense of run security. They have been laying on the field like a wounded soilder and just when the enemy comes to check their pulse to see if we are still alive they will rise and play the best defense of the year. The “Sean” is brilliant ! The last few weeks have been one big scheme of misdirection and deceit.. All an act. We are a modern day Little Big Horn…I only hope that Dallas be our Custer.. Who Dat !!

"I feel sorry for people that don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, thats as good as they are going to feel all day" Frank Sinatra

by CaddoCoonass on Jan 6, 2010 9:37 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

CC

Was at the CUB last night…
I like the way you think, all Fan all the time! I used to be a Fanalyst but after years of scientific study and analysis I was right about as often as the “expert” talking heads…and that aint saying much. Now I just am a fan from the heart not the mind and life is so much simpler…
WHO DAT SAINTS DAT TRUE DAT !

Gris Gris Man, Voodoo Surgeon General and Master of Witch Doctory

by Gris Gris Man on Jan 7, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

GGM.. is the Cub an every Wednesday thing????

You have to be a fan of the heart if the Saints are your team… They are like a wife, no logic, no reality, so rhym or reason. They do have logic, however it’s what I call “vaginal logic” . 100% pure emotion… Given that, maybe it’s easier for women to be Saints Fans.. I’ll ask my wife. NooooooTTTT!!! Who Dat!

"I feel sorry for people that don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, thats as good as they are going to feel all day" Frank Sinatra

by CaddoCoonass on Jan 7, 2010 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

heheheh.

It is religious I think the Wednesday Nights… “Where is the GGM? on Wednesdays?” At Church….

Pulling out the stops.... feeding into the mud in my blood to push into our Saints to Go the Distance....

The VGG is back.

by VoodooGrisGris on Jan 19, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

A couple of things...

1) Who cares what the talkinh heads say… wanna listen to somebody then listen to Vegas… Saints still NFC favourite. Only Indy has a better odd to win the Bowl and we are tied with SD. At least these guys do their homework properly

2) We can argue for weeks, and I am sure we will in the offseason, but the key word here is HEALTH. If we are healthy, we’ll drop 40 on whoever shows up at the Dome – and we will

You gotta go there to come back

by bondcrash on Jan 7, 2010 1:41 AM CST reply actions  

Well all i can say is

I STILL BELIEVE.

I refuse to give up on the Saints. Never have. Never will.

Whoever comes to the Dome, prepare to play your best, We will.

by cajunsblues on Jan 7, 2010 8:06 AM CST reply actions  

I think they know what is on the line and what they are playing for. Being underrated is not a bad thing. No one expected the wild card steelers to beat everyone on the road and win the superbowl. Also no one expected the giants to defeat the undefeated patriots in the superbowl. Now that the bandwagoneers jumped ship, the true fans can keep their faith and say they cheered the saints through wins and losses. Go Saints!!

by believerofgoldandblack on Jan 7, 2010 10:18 AM CST reply actions  

slumping . .

can you beleive that . just cause we lost a few games we slumped into the playoffs , never mind vikings lost 3 outta 4 , cowboys barely made it , blah blah blah . . dam sports analyist they full of crap ever body says cowboys is the team to beat . . well then why are they #3 and not #1 if you ask me saints locked first round bye week 12 won 13 in a rowe easied in to who dat field advantage and coasted . . now they gonna be back in ASS KICKIN mode 1-16-2010 and i pray to GOD we end up with rematch against cowboys for NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME for the bowl . .

by rockN an rollN on Jan 7, 2010 3:41 PM CST reply actions  

right on the button

seems to me the saints will have something to say come january 16. getting healthy will be key, but having some time to breathe and hit restart will be huge. fine with me if people write us off. i believe

by unclebp on Jan 8, 2010 9:34 PM CST reply actions  

this is going to be such fun

getting to 2/7

WHODAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dynasty - 2009 - ???? (11/8/09)

"Yes, I know," interrrupted Puddleglum. " 'And, few return to the sunlit lands.' You needn't say it, again. You are a chap of one idea, aren't you?"

by nofear on Jan 10, 2010 5:34 PM CST reply actions  

Is it Saturday yet????

My gosh! Will Saturday ever get here?
I can’t wait. I am like a kid at birthday time. When’s my party?

by Comp on Jan 13, 2010 2:52 PM CST reply actions  

Okay

Update:

Is it SUNDAY YET?

Pulling out the stops.... feeding into the mud in my blood to push into our Saints to Go the Distance....

The VGG is back.

by VoodooGrisGris on Jan 20, 2010 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

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