New Orleans Saints' Offensive Player Grades: Year in Review
My offensive MVP for the first half of the season, based on having the highest GPA, was Jahri Evans. After 16 games, Drew Brees now has the highest GPA, so he gets my offensive MVP for the season. Below are the final GPA's for the season, including the number of games graded. Keep in mind, that doesn't mean number of games played, it's just the number of games I graded based on extended action.
Here are the GPA's, highest to lowest:
Drew Brees: 3.18 (15 games)
Jahri Evans: 3.13 (16 games)
Heath Evans: 3.11 (6 games)
Pierre Thomas: 3.10 (13 games)
Robert Meachem: 3.02 (14 games)
Jamar Nesbit: 3.00 (1 game)
Carl Nicks: 2.98 (16 games)
Marques Colston: 2.93 (15 games)
Jeremy Shockey: 2.87 (13 games)
Devery Henderson: 2.77 (16 games)
Jon Stinchcomb: 2.75 (16 games)
Reggie Bush: 2.69 (14 games)
Lance Moore: 2.54 (5 games)
Lynell Hamilton: 2.53 (5 games)
Jermon Bushrod: 2.51 (15 games)
Mike Bell: 2.49 (13 games)
David Thomas: 2.41 (13 games)
Zach Strief: 2.31 (13 games)
Kyle Eckel: 2.20 (5 games)
Darnell Dinkins: 2.14 (6 games)
Tory Humphrey: 1.67 (1 game)
Mark Brunell: 1.00 (1 game)
Nick Leckey 1.00 (1 game)
Below are the number of Offensive Player of the Game awards handed out in my Player Grades posts (note I gave Shockey and Bell a tie one week):
Drew Brees 4
Pierre Thomas 3
Marques Colston 2
Robert Meachem 2
Reggie Bush 1
Carl Nicks 1
David Thomas 1
Lynell Hamilton 1
Jeremy Shockey 0.5
Mike Bell 0.5
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got to be drew
we all saw where this team would be without him week 17. still so unbelievable we have this guy on our roster. looking forward to many more MVPs for this guy.
speaking of, when does the league release the MVP award, thought it was before the playoffs. not that it is as important as this MVP award :0
Bell's GPA
was surprised how low it dropped. He had a really high GPA half way through the season, but I guess his recent string of crappy performances dropped him severely
yeah
he wasn’t what we were expecting to be in the 2nd half
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
give the guy a break
Considering how few snaps he had last year, are y’all really that surprised that he’s worn down a little over 16 games? I expect to see him back in form during the playoffs after al little rest.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 8, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
the guy was out of football last season
he had a knee injury this season and his running style is punishing. I’m betting he’ll be back in early season form come 1/16/10.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 8, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions
He is what he is
a backup, or a rotational back. He can no more run through a crowded line than Reggie can. I like him and all, but I wouldn’t expect much more from him.
"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas
MIke Bell can't run through a crowded line?
Did you think that was #23 all year long? Must I link some video for you? (gets better 40 sec in)
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He did have a great game.
In week 1, against Detroit. In fairness, he also had great games against Miami and, to a lesser degree, Philly. But the polish has worn off. Like I said, I like him, but he’s not anything to anchor a running game to.
"Think about that statement and all its implications for a second. The New England Patriots did not play up to the level of the New Orleans Saints." -Pat Yasinskas
TE David Thomas did quite a lot to save the season at that position
After Dan Campbell and Billy Miller went down? If Darnell Dinkins is a solid 2.14, then Thomas HAS to be a 3.14. For this season. He’s no Shockey and maybe he’s no Mark Campbell, and maybe he’s no Billy Miller either, but I’m pretty sure he was better than Dan Campbell would have been and he’s a damn sight better than Dinkins has been.
I lost ten points just for being in the right place at exactly the wrong time.
Thomas' grade
started off very poorly. You’ll remember early in the season he dropped a number of passes and got holding calls, missed assignments. His GPA was so low early on it was almost impossible to salvage. 2.41 is actually a testament, believe it or not, to how well he’s performed of late. Through 3 or 4 games he was under 2.0. Once he came to understand the playbook and got in better rhythm with Brees he started to improve drastically. I agree with you. Unfortunately, his low GPA is a function of a brutal start to the season.
Too Harsh!
3.18 for Brees? Brees is a top 3 NFL QB (this season) and he has an “above average” GPA on the season? This is a guy who is going to get MVP votes…right? It would appear to me that Matt Ryan and Jason Campbell had “above average” seasons. Does anyone think that either of them is in same class as Brees?
he can only go so high
you get a 3.4 to 4.0 for a near perfect game. brees had a handful of off games this year, 2.4 to 2.8. that hurts your grade. i dont think its implies he is not a great qb, but you would have to have a near perfect season to get any higher than a 3.4.
bingo
the grades shouldn’t be taken as meaning he’s an avg player. Even Peyton has had bad games this year. I can promise you that had I applied this grading scale to all QB’s in the NFL, I don’t think more than maybe 3-4 QB’s would be over 3.0
GPA's of QB's
Maybe i’m not understanding then, help me out. This scale is the standard 4.0 like in school, right? (A=4, B=3, C=2, etc.) If not what is it? Ive seen some other post state that a 3.4 – 4.0 is awarded for a “near perfect game.” Obviously, I’m missing something. In CA, a 3.4 is middle of the road “B” meaning "above average and that’s not how i’d characterize on of the best QB’s in the league by your standard or mine.
In CA
3.4 means you get A’s and B’s and C is average…A B quarter back would be like a 2.9-3..1ish, that’s like a Donovan McNabb/Carlson Palmer type. No QB get’s a 4.0 this year. Brady prob got a 3.8 in 2007 and I’d say Brees last year probably did. But it’s just a scale not a big deal…
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hey man
3.18 is a high GPA. Believe it or not, I was criticized more times than not for being too generous with Brees on individual game performances. A couple of C’s/C-’s brought down his GPA, and those grades were well deserved based on his performance in those games.
Average games?
Which ones where those? Not that i’m insinuating he did not have any.
and by the way
if I was grading Ryan and/or Campbell all season, I can promise you their GPAs would be infinitely lower.
you want to talk about too harsh
how about brunnel. how can you give him a 1.0 when the guy went out there and played his heart out without his wheelchair or even a walker!! cruel man, too cruel. how would you fair if you wrote this post without a keyboard….not to good
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 8, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
HEY!!
Us old guys resemble those remarks. I gotta stick by my fellow senior citizen (although he DID stink up the joint!) Too funny, SC!
"The Saints made the right decision signing Drew Brees-not just in terms of his arm, but because of his heart and mind." - Marshall Faulk
grading Ryan and/or Campbell
Infinitely lower? I’d take that bet.
SHOW ME THE $$$$
“Infinitely” leaves a lot to be desired and since its my money i get to decide what “infinitley” means.
Saints MVP for sure.
Drew is the only single player where we would KNOW for certain what would happen if he wasn’t on the field during a playoff game. We could and have overcome the loss of any other single player. However, after watching Manning’s backup the last couple of weeks, it’s pretty obvious the same is true for the Colts.
by Drew-Dat on Jan 8, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If we lost Thomas, Evans, and Meachem
…we might still be 13-3. If we lost Drew, we’d be 3-13. ’Nuf said.
BURN THE BLACK PANTS!!!
the flaw in this grading system
is that the best you can hope to get for the season is a B+, even if you are the best player on the team or the best player in the NFL at your position. Pro Bowl players with B averages- it just doesn’t seem to jive for me.
Having said that I am thankful for all the effort that goes into it but I think there needs to be some type of a curve whereas the middle of the road player gets a C and there are a couple of A’s, a few more B’s etc- especially on a # 1 rated offense on a team that was #1 Seed in NFC.
I guess Brett Favre would have gotten a B- and Kurt Warner and Aaron Rogers C+ ?
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i like the tough grading scale
might seem nerdy but in madden 10 players are just that, average, only the elite are 87+(ie manning, brees, fitzgerald). we forget how good these players are and how good the players are they go against. a b+ in the nfl is great considering brees got a 3.18. whats the difference if brees gets curvered to a 4.0 if everyone elses grade moves up as well. brees is still that much better than everyone else behind him. and for that matter everyone else is still that much better than everyone else behind them…so on, so forth
i wouldn't look at 3.18 as "bad" or "not good enough"
When you’re on a 13-3 team and 3.18 is the highest gpa, clearly that’s a stellar average and about as good as you can get while still having a bad game here and there. If I took the time to grade every single player in the NFL for 16 games, I can’t imagine that more than 2-3 players would have a higher GPA. Maybe none. I haven’t watched Peyton enough to know how he’d grade out, but I’ve seen him have multiple INT’s in games. Also, Chris Johnson got off to a slow start this season, so no telling what his GPA would be either. Perhaps the system is harsh, but it should be taken away that Brees still graded out better than anyone else.
correct on Favre/Warner/Rodgers
at 3.18, Brees’ OVERALL grade through 15 games is between B and B+. Keep in mind that’s the average. So you’re getting that kind of average every game from him. To average an A based on this grading system, he’d need to basically get more A’s than anything else, and almost no C’s. It’s just not realistic. Any player above a 3.0 has had a fantastic season. That doesn’t mean Brees hasn’t had A’s this year… in fact twice I gave him A+. He’s just had some bad games where he got a C and a C-. Brings down the overall grade. At the time the grade I have him for that game was fair. I’m sure some of Brett’s games the last few weeks would destroy his GPA. So here’s what I’d guess GPA’s would look like: Manning, 3.25, Favre, 2.97, Warner 2.80, Rodgers 2.78. That’s just a wild guess, but you get the idea.
Buttend
come on guys P.Thomas hasn’t gotten the credit he’s deserved for guite some time. Iboldly agree Drrew is #1 I feel P.T. deserves kudos this year. Please
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OldFartFan
4.0 is no longer the glass ceiling
My daughter, when she was in high school, had a GPA of 4.2 (not bragging, just saying). By taking college courses improved her average. Today’s highest is now 5.0. So if a player gets an A+ they should be credited for a college-like credit of above 4.0, thus enabling a higher average. If indeed, A=4 B=3 C=2, then no one will ever average higher than a “low A” or “high B”.
by WhoDat_OH on Jan 8, 2010 10:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Oops
Don’t know why it’s all in bold. My bad. Sorry about that.
by WhoDat_OH on Jan 8, 2010 10:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
WELL AT LEAST IT'S NOT BOLD AND ALL CAPS :-)
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No Problem...
Easier for me and Brunell to read!
"The Saints made the right decision signing Drew Brees-not just in terms of his arm, but because of his heart and mind." - Marshall Faulk
For instance...
Drew’s perfect passer rating vs. New England would garner him a 4.4 or 4.5 or even higher, depending upon your generosity at that moment. I concede that those games are rare. But to be limited to a strict 4.0 value and 3.5 being the lowest value considered A might not reflect a favorable GPA. Or maybe I’m just too empathetic.
by WhoDat_OH on Jan 9, 2010 6:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Did you notice that photo of Brees throwing at the head of this post?
His mouthpiece is jammed in his helmet. Was this warm-ups or did he forget to put it in for a live play?
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." -- Bobby McCray
I DON'T MIND MAKING HISTORY

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